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nooZe
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany25 Posts
April 24 2016 14:01 GMT
#1021
Greedy drafts and sloppy play I'd say.
Must be a hard day for Kuro.
Aurrius
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany120 Posts
April 24 2016 14:01 GMT
#1022
I think bad Drafts where one of the main reasons for the 3:0 defeat.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
April 24 2016 14:02 GMT
#1023
wow, im just super dissapointed right now. liquid is clearly the better team overall, but they just got outdrafted and outplayed so hard. why kuro insisted on picking shitty enigma two times in a row is beyond me. this was our tournament 100% and they gave it away like that, fucking dissapointing...
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 14:05:25
April 24 2016 14:03 GMT
#1024
could be worse. We're new C9 now.
We could also be the new Alliance/OG/Secret so I'm fine with the 2nd place even if I obviously wanted to see another 1st place win.

So, Liquid/Secret/EG/MVP/Fnatic/Wings/VG are locked into Manila like 99%, right? And everyone else (col/Navi/OG?) are competing for the last invite?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 14:05:35
April 24 2016 14:04 GMT
#1025
i dont want to be fucking c9, second place sucks ass;(
i mean i dont think wings will be relevant at the major, thats just how these teams are. but still 3:0 against fucking wings....
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 24 2016 14:04 GMT
#1026
On April 24 2016 23:03 Toadesstern wrote:
could be worse. We're new C9 now.


So long as we're not in the "Nazgul give team pls" stage I'm good.

But Kuro should really get over Lifestealers Enigmas Dooms and other pretend-4 heroes
nooZe
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany25 Posts
April 24 2016 14:08 GMT
#1027
On April 24 2016 23:04 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 23:03 Toadesstern wrote:
could be worse. We're new C9 now.


So long as we're not in the "Nazgul give team pls" stage I'm good.

But Kuro should really get over Lifestealers Enigmas Dooms and other pretend-4 heroes


Makes me even more sad because Kuro was a really good 5 in Na'Vi days. So it's not like he cant play it. But oh well, it's Kuros drafts that brought them to where they are today so we shouldn't criticise him too much.
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
April 24 2016 14:24 GMT
#1028
welp, seen only final part of game 3, opportunity wasted, I would even describe it as a kick in the butt

let's see how they take it, they either completely loose it or come out stronger

with We Play and then Epicenter in quick succession there is no time to cry over this one...
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
April 24 2016 14:48 GMT
#1029
On April 24 2016 23:02 hunter_x wrote:
wow, im just super dissapointed right now. liquid is clearly the better team overall, but they just got outdrafted and outplayed so hard. why kuro insisted on picking shitty enigma two times in a row is beyond me. this was our tournament 100% and they gave it away like that, fucking dissapointing...


Dude , please read your post again , they are clearly the better team ??? how so if they got Outdrafted AND outplayed in 3 straight games ? they didn't give anything away , those young kids took it from them , learn to give respect when its due and be a sport. Liquid did really well to reach the GF gl next tourney , are they in Epicenter ?
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
April 24 2016 14:51 GMT
#1030
On April 24 2016 23:04 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 23:03 Toadesstern wrote:
could be worse. We're new C9 now.


So long as we're not in the "Nazgul give team pls" stage I'm good.

But Kuro should really get over Lifestealers Enigmas Dooms and other pretend-4 heroes


Doom is one of the most OP heroes around , he played great doom at game 3 , Spectre got caught WAY too much and they didn't handle the safe lane well at all , letting bat kill the spec and get free farm , while top was a disaster with MC having 1k nw while veno had 3k in a 1v1 , its always easy to blame the drafter , but the solo players didn't do as well as they should've , KKY is the heart of this team and he captained a bunch of players that did nothing in their careers into 2nd in a major and being a main contenders in everything they play , they know what they are doing and they are doing it well.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 15:08:07
April 24 2016 15:07 GMT
#1031
On April 24 2016 23:48 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 23:02 hunter_x wrote:
wow, im just super dissapointed right now. liquid is clearly the better team overall, but they just got outdrafted and outplayed so hard. why kuro insisted on picking shitty enigma two times in a row is beyond me. this was our tournament 100% and they gave it away like that, fucking dissapointing...


Dude , please read your post again , they are clearly the better team ??? how so if they got Outdrafted AND outplayed in 3 straight games ? they didn't give anything away , those young kids took it from them , learn to give respect when its due and be a sport. Liquid did really well to reach the GF gl next tourney , are they in Epicenter ?

yeah they are but WePlay finals comes first in a couple days already and looks a bit easier to get a good finisher there. In the same group as Navi, Elite Wolves and Team Spirit while top2 make it out. Group B with EG/AD Finem/Vega/MVP looks a lot tougher lol (assuming EG doesn't crumble like Secret did with the roster swap)

I also don't get the hate Kuro is getting for his Doom. Yes he played really shitty on Enigma but his Doom was fine and certainly not the reason they lost game3. If anything without the Doom early on it would have been a complete stomp.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
April 24 2016 15:48 GMT
#1032
On April 24 2016 23:48 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 23:02 hunter_x wrote:
wow, im just super dissapointed right now. liquid is clearly the better team overall, but they just got outdrafted and outplayed so hard. why kuro insisted on picking shitty enigma two times in a row is beyond me. this was our tournament 100% and they gave it away like that, fucking dissapointing...


Dude , please read your post again , they are clearly the better team ??? how so if they got Outdrafted AND outplayed in 3 straight games ? they didn't give anything away , those young kids took it from them , learn to give respect when its due and be a sport. Liquid did really well to reach the GF gl next tourney , are they in Epicenter ?

The better team overall, not in these games. Of course wings was better today, i dont take anything away from them...
Aurrius
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany120 Posts
April 24 2016 16:27 GMT
#1033
Well lets see how can they improve from this ESL Event to the Weplay Lan Finals.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 17:09:13
April 24 2016 17:06 GMT
#1034
but it still is awsome, that they are one of the favorites every tournament they enter
i was a liquid Fan since the first team, and it was never like this, feels good!
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 24 2016 17:33 GMT
#1035
On April 24 2016 18:38 Geisterkarle wrote:
Bascially the games were even or slight advantages to Empire ... and than Liquid turn up the heat and win!


Its like every liquid game. Suddenly one fight and they win game.
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
April 24 2016 18:09 GMT
#1036
Well, that was a bit of a letdown, but there's always the next tournament. Onward!
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
April 24 2016 18:46 GMT
#1037
Feels like Liquid really needs to develop more strategic and draft depth if they ever want to take a big tournament. Too reliant on a few heroes and snowballing off of fights.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
April 24 2016 22:07 GMT
#1038
Overwhelmingly happy with Liquid making it to the grand finals Happy for Wings too but given just a little bit more time Liquid will definitely get themselves another win. Hopefully in Moscow at Epicenter.
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
April 24 2016 23:48 GMT
#1039
On April 24 2016 23:03 Toadesstern wrote:
could be worse. We're new C9 now.
We could also be the new Alliance/OG/Secret so I'm fine with the 2nd place even if I obviously wanted to see another 1st place win.

So, Liquid/Secret/EG/MVP/Fnatic/Wings/VG are locked into Manila like 99%, right? And everyone else (col/Navi/OG?) are competing for the last invite?


I think Fnatic is iffy, other six almost certainly. Yes Fnatic got fifth/sixth at the last major, but hasn't won anything and their only LAN they been to they got 3rd/4th. I feel like it's a no for an invite, but they will almost certainly win the qualifier.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
April 25 2016 10:59 GMT
#1040
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