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On June 09 2017 02:40 SFDuality wrote:
You often hear casters say something like, "Since they're a good Io team they know how to counter it." That's bullshit. Being good with a hero and being good at countering it are entirely separate things.
Yes I have heard that quite often as well and I always accepted it.Now I am not so sure, but I feel like this should still be a thing.
If you play a hero a lot and you die a lot you know the boundaries of the hero and thereforeyou know pretty well what counter it.
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On June 09 2017 02:40 SFDuality wrote:
Liquid being good at Io doesn't make VP's Io any weaker. If Liquid get it, they probably win. If VP get it, yeah, they probably win too.
You often hear casters say something like, "Since they're a good Io team they know how to counter it." That's bullshit. Being good with a hero and being good at countering it are entirely separate things.
IO and KOTL have literally been the first two bans against liquid in every game at EpiCenter
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On June 09 2017 02:40 SFDuality wrote:
Liquid being good at Io doesn't make VP's Io any weaker. If Liquid get it, they probably win. If VP get it, yeah, they probably win too.
You often hear casters say something like, "Since they're a good Io team they know how to counter it." That's bullshit. Being good with a hero and being good at countering it are entirely separate things.
I understand your point, but still i don't see VP's io as that big of a threat. Probably because i haven't seen them playing it to be honest.
Just checked, none of the times VP actually picked io they've done it in the first phase. They seem to prioritize treant and troll in first phase, don't think it's worth for liquid to ban it in the first phase.
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On June 09 2017 03:05 YourGoodFriend wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 02:40 SFDuality wrote:
Liquid being good at Io doesn't make VP's Io any weaker. If Liquid get it, they probably win. If VP get it, yeah, they probably win too.
You often hear casters say something like, "Since they're a good Io team they know how to counter it." That's bullshit. Being good with a hero and being good at countering it are entirely separate things. IO and KOTL have literally been the first two bans against liquid in every game at EpiCenter
Just rechecked NaVi banned Kotl Tusk one game but other than that the first two bans have been kotl IO for every liquid game
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On June 09 2017 03:25 Pontual wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 02:40 SFDuality wrote:
Liquid being good at Io doesn't make VP's Io any weaker. If Liquid get it, they probably win. If VP get it, yeah, they probably win too.
You often hear casters say something like, "Since they're a good Io team they know how to counter it." That's bullshit. Being good with a hero and being good at countering it are entirely separate things. I understand your point, but still i don't see VP's io as that big of a threat. Probably because i haven't seen them playing it to be honest. Just checked, none of the times VP actually picked io they've done it in the first phase. They seem to prioritize treant and troll in first phase, don't think it's worth for liquid to ban it in the first phase.
VP first picked IO vs EG but it was non-factor in that game.
Basically just healing ward for mid Ursa.
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Now we either win a hardfought bo3 where each game is a 966, or we will get destroyed by VP.
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Gh Pudge early game is just so unreliable
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oracle pudge vs disruptor sk hmm
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Liquid is really not a candidate anymore for a direct invite compared to Secret or LFY.
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On June 09 2017 23:26 f0xteam wrote:
oracle pudge vs disruptor sk hmm
Pretty much
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Shame, I'm still at work - I could only see bits of the match, but those bits looked great.
Kotl Ban incoming next game...
Even without being a Liquid fan - I want them to beat VP so badly now, after reading that Artstyle interview.
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LIQUID! LIQUID! LIQUID!
bring back epicenter trophy home
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I want a matu Bristle in this next game (with a kotl would be golden)
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So glad to see Liquid pull something like this out against VP. I hope they make it to the grand finals and meet EG and we'll finally see Liquid play all the Kiev powerhouses in BO3s/BO5s.
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On June 09 2017 23:27 Aurrius wrote:
Liquid is really not a candidate anymore for a direct invite compared to Secret or LFY.
Sorry just have to quote this
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EPT
