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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
November 26 2016 18:43 GMT
#3181
gh.god is really impressive.

27k mmr boys
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34500 Posts
November 26 2016 18:47 GMT
#3182
I like this interview :D
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BasalGanglia
Profile Joined October 2015
31 Posts
November 26 2016 18:51 GMT
#3183
gh definitely seems legit. I hope they make him official member asap.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 26 2016 18:53 GMT
#3184
Anyone knows how is the ping from those Middle East countries? I don't think it's great yet those two managed to go pro.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
November 26 2016 18:59 GMT
#3185
I really like GH, he seems very down to earth.
BreakupBoy
Profile Joined September 2016
Germany171 Posts
November 26 2016 19:15 GMT
#3186
It's time for Liquid to reclaim their tier 1 status!
(~ ̄▽ ̄)~
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
November 26 2016 19:16 GMT
#3187
I don't think beating Alliance, Escape and uhhh ... Imperial is enough to propel Liquid into tier 1 status, but perhaps in the future
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
BreakupBoy
Profile Joined September 2016
Germany171 Posts
November 26 2016 19:30 GMT
#3188
On November 27 2016 04:16 wims80 wrote:
I don't think beating Alliance, Escape and uhhh ... Imperial is enough to propel Liquid into tier 1 status, but perhaps in the future

Yeah I know, right now I consider Liquid the King of the tier 2 teams though. But I hope they can become a tier 1 team again, the EG-Liquid rivalry is more fun that way.
(~ ̄▽ ̄)~
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
November 26 2016 20:57 GMT
#3189
Well competition was more or less terrible, but Liquid had to show that

They are a few steps ahead of the teams in DL, but it matters 0 if you don't show it on the games

More of a morale/confidence boost, which can be Good for a team that looked shaky after miracle and gh joined.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-26 21:30:59
November 26 2016 21:13 GMT
#3190
oops 2x post
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 26 2016 21:30 GMT
#3191
how can you say that
Gh played
what
4games before the tourney :D
6max
and won two with great performance
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
November 26 2016 21:39 GMT
#3192
gh looks like a good fit so far and miracle/matu finally seemed to be on the same page. Kuro's drafts were solid as well.

The competition wasn't spectacular, but going through the tourney without dropping a game is still impressive. Escape 2-0'd VP a month ago in league play and Imperial takes games off top teams with some regularity. Above all though, the boys looked like they had a good time, flashbacks to a similar position a year ago.
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4965 Posts
November 27 2016 01:01 GMT
#3193
On November 27 2016 03:53 nojok wrote:
Anyone knows how is the ping from those Middle East countries? I don't think it's great yet those two managed to go pro.

fwiw TL has the capabilities to have people living at the HQ in the Netherlands for a while
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Jinkku
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland36 Posts
November 27 2016 06:32 GMT
#3194
What a nice little tournament.

Even if the opponents werent the best, Liquid looked fresh and dominant. Maybe now we can forget the Bulba fiasco and move on. I wonder if the lineup will be the same after the incoming shuffle following the major..
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 27 2016 08:13 GMT
#3195
On November 27 2016 10:01 FO-nTTaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2016 03:53 nojok wrote:
Anyone knows how is the ping from those Middle East countries? I don't think it's great yet those two managed to go pro.

fwiw TL has the capabilities to have people living at the HQ in the Netherlands for a while

I know but I was thinking of the whole online part before having a professional team. They still have to prove themselves before having their chance at the very top.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28095 Posts
November 27 2016 08:18 GMT
#3196
On November 27 2016 10:01 FO-nTTaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2016 03:53 nojok wrote:
Anyone knows how is the ping from those Middle East countries? I don't think it's great yet those two managed to go pro.

fwiw TL has the capabilities to have people living at the HQ in the Netherlands for a while

Think he meant grinding to 9k and getting recognized to begin with, before going pro.

I don't think the ping is too bad though. I mean it would probably be less than 100 so it's whatever.
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Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
November 28 2016 07:53 GMT
#3197
Am I the only one not being impressed by their games?
To be honest, I am 100% sure, that this performance is not even close to a tier 1 performance.

- Extrem bad early game, I am not sure what they re doing wrong, but their early game sucks. They lose each lane and it looks, like they re only able to secure the safelane farm..
- Miracle mid is dead 24/7 - thats what it feels like. He is awesome yea, but his aggressive style results in getting killed 4-5 times in 10-15 minutes. There is still no offensive play to control and win the mid. Against escape it showed up a lot, each mid was clearly dominated by escape.

I could continue a long list.. their individual skill wins them the games, thats what you can see - their team coordination is awful. A tier 1 team will not give the early game lead out of their hands.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
November 28 2016 07:59 GMT
#3198
they didnt drop a single game during the tournament proper, that's impressive
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NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
November 28 2016 12:10 GMT
#3199
On November 28 2016 16:53 Anamorph wrote:
Am I the only one not being impressed by their games?
To be honest, I am 100% sure, that this performance is not even close to a tier 1 performance.

- Extrem bad early game, I am not sure what they re doing wrong, but their early game sucks. They lose each lane and it looks, like they re only able to secure the safelane farm..
- Miracle mid is dead 24/7 - thats what it feels like. He is awesome yea, but his aggressive style results in getting killed 4-5 times in 10-15 minutes. There is still no offensive play to control and win the mid. Against escape it showed up a lot, each mid was clearly dominated by escape.

I could continue a long list.. their individual skill wins them the games, thats what you can see - their team coordination is awful. A tier 1 team will not give the early game lead out of their hands.


Seems like we were watching different games.
The laning stage in most of the games was supposed to go like it did - they never drafted super aggressive so they can crush the lanes. Its pretty much Liquid Pre Ti6 style - draft stable lanes ( means even if it loses its by a couple of CS - death here and there), then supports and MC die a bit if rotations fail while so cores farm thn 1 won fight ---> map control, 2 fight ---> win. Owning the lanes with a draft that contains lets say Morph or TB means hard snowball and 15 min win.

wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
November 28 2016 12:23 GMT
#3200
On November 28 2016 21:10 NInoff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2016 16:53 Anamorph wrote:
Am I the only one not being impressed by their games?
To be honest, I am 100% sure, that this performance is not even close to a tier 1 performance.

- Extrem bad early game, I am not sure what they re doing wrong, but their early game sucks. They lose each lane and it looks, like they re only able to secure the safelane farm..
- Miracle mid is dead 24/7 - thats what it feels like. He is awesome yea, but his aggressive style results in getting killed 4-5 times in 10-15 minutes. There is still no offensive play to control and win the mid. Against escape it showed up a lot, each mid was clearly dominated by escape.

I could continue a long list.. their individual skill wins them the games, thats what you can see - their team coordination is awful. A tier 1 team will not give the early game lead out of their hands.


Seems like we were watching different games.
The laning stage in most of the games was supposed to go like it did - they never drafted super aggressive so they can crush the lanes. Its pretty much Liquid Pre Ti6 style - draft stable lanes ( means even if it loses its by a couple of CS - death here and there), then supports and MC die a bit if rotations fail while so cores farm thn 1 won fight ---> map control, 2 fight ---> win. Owning the lanes with a draft that contains lets say Morph or TB means hard snowball and 15 min win.


That strategy might work against teams like Alliance and Imperial, but will it work against Wing, Virtus Pro or OG? I'm not so sure
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
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