EPTI would be pretty surprised if Liquid don't get to the finals at DH. Imo Imperial vs Liquid is the most likely final even though they play each other on the first round of upper bracket. Though I wonder if Liquid has practiced with their new lineup, a lot of teams have been away in NA playing LANs so at least some of the better teams haven't been there to scrim. But the same goes for Escape and Alliance, not convinced their form is that good. Imperial is playing consistently in smaller tournaments so they should be ready to go.
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spudde123
4814 Posts
I would be pretty surprised if Liquid don't get to the finals at DH. Imo Imperial vs Liquid is the most likely final even though they play each other on the first round of upper bracket. Though I wonder if Liquid has practiced with their new lineup, a lot of teams have been away in NA playing LANs so at least some of the better teams haven't been there to scrim. But the same goes for Escape and Alliance, not convinced their form is that good. Imperial is playing consistently in smaller tournaments so they should be ready to go. | ||
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nothingmuch
448 Posts
If the skill that got Miracle to the top of the leaderboards as well as into major winning teams seems to be the same, then the obvious conclusion is that his poor performance in competitive games must have a different reason than him slumping. | ||
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wims80
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On November 23 2016 22:38 nothingmuch wrote: I prefer to gauge skill and form by performance rather than some mythical and more importantly immeasurable "pro level game skill" that's different from the skill needed in games where all the pro players play. And the fact that the top level pub stars constantly get recruited into pro teams in all 3 regions seems to support that. If the skill that got Miracle to the top of the leaderboards as well as into major winning teams seems to be the same, then the obvious conclusion is that his poor performance in competitive games must have a different reason than him slumping. I doubt anyone thinks he magically became a worse player overnight. I think when people talk about a slump they are just referring to his impact in a team setting. People can have their own impressions just by looking at Liquid's games, it's not really some mythical concept. Though obviously it's often hard to differentiate what happens due to the player himself doing or communicating something poorly and what is due to some other reason. But that doesn't stop people from singling out individual players when they look good on a team, and it doesn't stop them from talking about their "failures" when they look worse. | ||
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nothingmuch
448 Posts
On November 24 2016 01:06 spudde123 wrote: I doubt anyone thinks he [magically] became a worse player overnight. Actually that is exactly what "slump" means. slump sləmp undergo a sudden severe or prolonged fall in price, value, or amount. "land prices slumped" synonyms: fall steeply, plummet, tumble, drop, go down; More fail or decline substantially. "the Giants slumped to an 8–8 record" synonyms: decline, deteriorate, degenerate, worsen, slip; | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On November 23 2016 20:37 nothingmuch wrote: You should let the people at EG, OG, Liquid, IG etc. in on your little secret. They seem clueless. yeah tell me again how liquids double 9k worked out. Only Liquid seems to be picking up players based on mmr as opposed to fit on the team and actual talent | ||
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
The team meshed well last year and looking at other teams you can see it's usually not easy to replicate. Until you play together a while you won't know ahead of time your partners movements and by that point personalities either work together or they don't. I'm not saying it will work out, but the idea that GH was chosen because he was 9k is silly. Personally I'm hoping he is the vocal in game voice they seem to need, it may take some time for him to feel comfortable telling the others what to do though, so we'll just have to wait and see. | ||
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nothingmuch
448 Posts
On November 24 2016 02:40 Jaaaaasper wrote: yeah tell me again how liquids double 9k worked out. Only Liquid seems to be picking up players based on mmr as opposed to fit on the team and actual talent ob·tuse əbˈt(y)o͞os,äbˈt(y)o͞os/ adjective annoyingly insensitive or slow to understand. "he wondered if the doctor was being deliberately obtuse" synonyms: stupid, slow-witted, slow, dull-witted, unintelligent, ignorant, simpleminded, witless; More | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On November 24 2016 01:54 nothingmuch wrote: Actually that is exactly what "slump" means. slump sləmp undergo a sudden severe or prolonged fall in price, value, or amount. "land prices slumped" synonyms: fall steeply, plummet, tumble, drop, go down; More fail or decline substantially. "the Giants slumped to an 8–8 record" synonyms: decline, deteriorate, degenerate, worsen, slip; Very useful information! Point was that he doesn't need to have lost his individual abilities for his current value as a team member to go down. A big part of each player's performance is dependent on how he plays around the team and how the team plays around him. Someone can say that he is in a slump if his impact isn't as great as it previously was. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
On November 24 2016 09:31 DucK- wrote: Question is would GH play mid magnus and miracle to support? I don't think so. As far as i can remember they played like this only one time and GH was playing mid like he was #4 - very aggressive, trying to create space for his mid :D as a result he died a lot, and they lost. Bad. One or both games he was DP - and it was a disaster. | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On November 25 2016 00:17 NInoff wrote: I don't think so. As far as i can remember they played like this only one time and GH was playing mid like he was #4 - very aggressive, trying to create space for his mid :D as a result he died a lot, and they lost. Bad. One or both games he was DP - and it was a disaster. I think duck meant only in case they pick magnus, because gh is really good with the hero, despite him being a support player. | ||
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Jinkku
Finland36 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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Kyir
United States1047 Posts
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derElbe
Germany571 Posts
On November 25 2016 12:14 Kyir wrote: I'm so ready for these games oh god i am too. so much hype again, i feel like I should try to tune it down  | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Anyways GL to the boys! | ||
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Jinyah
Finland17 Posts
On November 25 2016 17:31 NInoff wrote: Two Bo3 / day is really easy to do without being very late even if you start 18:00 so people can watch. There's 4 games today according to the liquid wiki. Winners and losers bracket first games also. Leets goo | ||
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hunter_x
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NInoff
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