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BreakupBoy
Profile Joined September 2016
Germany171 Posts
December 17 2016 13:52 GMT
#3221
Hyped to see Liquid play again, the potential of this roster is so scary
(~ ̄▽ ̄)~
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
December 17 2016 14:02 GMT
#3222
On December 14 2016 00:12 spudde123 wrote:
What would you suggest the analysts do and what should they use as their tools?


Depending on their budget, they can use different BI Tools like IBM Cognos, SAP BO or Qlikview..
I think the steam API for dota is open in some way, because there re a lot of informations used by common websites. The other way around, Iam not sure if the DB from dotabuff is open. Anyway - there is a way to get all data.

You can do so much with known technology as an analyst. Just ask for people who re analysing soccer teams. I have a friend that works for a german first league soccer club as an analyst.

As a dota team you should invest in a IT-team or analyst that knows their work. Its a young sport, okay I get it, but building up the financial structure for it should not be a huge problem... its more about e-sport not using the potential they have.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
December 18 2016 05:25 GMT
#3223
Damn, I can't believe I missed watching the WellPlay matches live. It just isn't the same when you watch highlight videos or even the VODs especially after I spoiled myself on the results.

Nice to see them being successful using some interesting hero choices that weren't that viable last patch.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
December 19 2016 11:10 GMT
#3224
The new meta suggests that higher skill will pay off more,as people still havent figured out refined lineups for the certain strategies, movements or counters to enemy playstyle. So we should be able to be if not dominant than at least being able to win against any team.
On paper more jungle means very good news for greedy lineups, even for the offlane. MC always performed top level with early farm and levels. GH god looks stable. Miracle and Matu can now find farm for both of them. So this patch should be very good for Liquid
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
December 20 2016 16:46 GMT
#3225
Well, the first game/map in the new patch was quite onesided! Just keep that up
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
December 20 2016 16:51 GMT
#3226
On December 21 2016 01:46 Geisterkarle wrote:
Well, the first game/map in the new patch was quite onesided! Just keep that up

Can't watch it, but in gosu gamers it's registered liquid played with bulbo lol
Anyway, these teams in WellPlay won't offer too much resistence, but liquid didn't managed to qualify for any big lans yet, so that will have to do
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
December 20 2016 18:21 GMT
#3227
Kinda hoping these early visage picks don't continue... Not getting much done with him in the lineups
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
December 20 2016 18:24 GMT
#3228
Yeah I think they need to baby sit their cores more, Empire completely shut down their cores from the get go.
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
December 20 2016 18:36 GMT
#3229
Doesn't really feel like Liquid is playing on the 7.00 patch.

Drafts are very similar to before with the exception of Visage and that pick isn't even working out for them. They got outdrafted in the last two games massively. Support picks are complete ass at laning so they get stomped from the start.
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
December 20 2016 22:12 GMT
#3230
let's face it, they still suck but try stuff and think they will win, might as well start playing solid first and then try out sh*t
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
December 21 2016 00:06 GMT
#3231
This is the first time we've seen a team be a big threat towards this new lineup in a long while and they lost. They definitely have issues but it's shortly after the biggest patches ever too.

Hopefully this was just an off day for Liquid. Maybe they can learn from this loss for future tournaments.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 21 2016 07:08 GMT
#3232
Why not GH on mag :\
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
December 21 2016 09:06 GMT
#3233
I've seen miracle on magnus end in only three ways : Bad, Very Bad or Disaster. Couldn't watch the first two games but game three, was deffo a draft/strategic issue. It happened before it will happen in the future, hopefully not very often.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 22 2016 14:10 GMT
#3234
On December 21 2016 16:08 DucK- wrote:
Why not GH on mag :\

Miracle has to learn it, GH needs to get settled into T1 support role.

Don't be so results oriented guys, as far as I'm concerned until Major qualifier comes the main goal is to get better rather than to win
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
December 22 2016 17:12 GMT
#3235
I am surprised by their drafts.
Its rly far away from 700/701

No Underlord, no Lycan, No broodmother.. just their standard + visage.
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
December 22 2016 18:02 GMT
#3236
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nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
December 22 2016 19:50 GMT
#3237
On December 22 2016 23:10 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 16:08 DucK- wrote:
Why not GH on mag :\

Miracle has to learn it, GH needs to get settled into T1 support role.

Don't be so results oriented guys, as far as I'm concerned until Major qualifier comes the main goal is to get better rather than to win


As far as I can remember Miracle played an excellent mid Mag for OG one or two times.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
December 22 2016 23:44 GMT
#3238
On December 22 2016 23:10 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 16:08 DucK- wrote:
Why not GH on mag :\

Miracle has to learn it, GH needs to get settled into T1 support role.

Don't be so results oriented guys, as far as I'm concerned until Major qualifier comes the main goal is to get better rather than to win


I agree.

The results from WellPlay are definitely not a good look for them but let's wait for them to lose something important before we judge them so harshly. This was a small tournament of very little worth right before the holidays and on a new patch. Upsets happen all the time. If those upsets keep happening, then we should be concerned, but this was just one series.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
December 23 2016 08:13 GMT
#3239
On December 23 2016 02:12 Anamorph wrote:
I am surprised by their drafts.
Its rly far away from 700/701

No Underlord, no Lycan, No broodmother.. just their standard + visage.


Lycan isn't in CM so that explains that one at least
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derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-02 08:25:39
December 28 2016 14:59 GMT
#3240
does anyone know of any upcomign matches? Liquidpedia seems clueless.

the frontpage got edited: no bulba is official - gl to him
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