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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19349 Posts
October 29 2016 16:32 GMT
#2741
reddit has a nice post about vods

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotaVods/comments/59tpji/the_boston_major_2016_main_qualifiers_playoffs/
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 29 2016 17:56 GMT
#2742
On October 30 2016 01:25 Roybs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 23:21 Toadesstern wrote:
FUCK YES, we won vs VP? I just got online, saw VP&Secret live, thought we're out of it and then saw the 2-0 on liquipedia. Good job :3

Are VODs already out?

oh nvm I'm stupid, vods are even linkd on liquipedia

Sorry i might be stupid but where does one find those vods?


someone already posted the reddit thread but if you're on liquipedia:
+ Show Spoiler [picture with spoiler for VPxLiquid] +
[image loading]


click pink to see details of the match, click orange for vod 1+2. Downside is that you can't get into it spoilerfree I think...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
GGman
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic143 Posts
October 29 2016 18:04 GMT
#2743
Just for the record: I am so happy!

I also firmly believe that those performances will continue and will get even better @ Boston Major.

Liquid hwaiting!
“Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
October 30 2016 10:49 GMT
#2744
Haven't watched a lot of Dota since TI, especially since the two or three Liquid games i saw where abysmal. God am i happy, that i spent the time to watch most of the qualifiers. Gogo Team, i have missed you!
Roybs
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands500 Posts
October 30 2016 11:18 GMT
#2745
On October 30 2016 02:56 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 01:25 Roybs wrote:
On October 29 2016 23:21 Toadesstern wrote:
FUCK YES, we won vs VP? I just got online, saw VP&Secret live, thought we're out of it and then saw the 2-0 on liquipedia. Good job :3

Are VODs already out?

oh nvm I'm stupid, vods are even linkd on liquipedia

Sorry i might be stupid but where does one find those vods?


someone already posted the reddit thread but if you're on liquipedia:
+ Show Spoiler [picture with spoiler for VPxLiquid] +
[image loading]


click pink to see details of the match, click orange for vod 1+2. Downside is that you can't get into it spoilerfree I think...

Oh shit, that wasn't there when i looked :/
Thanks anyways!
Kikiwoelmuis <3
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 13:47:27
October 30 2016 13:47 GMT
#2746
Their playstyle with this new lineup is just so passive until the midgame... There is no agressiv roaming, no ganking, no playmaking. Just defensiv farm and pray to be big in the midgame.
This is just not the OG lineup Miracle needs, where the hole team looks after him to get big.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 14:02:47
October 30 2016 13:53 GMT
#2747
On October 30 2016 22:47 its_a_me wrote:
Their playstyle with this new lineup is just so passive until the midgame... There is no agressiv roaming, no ganking, no playmaking. Just defensiv farm and pray to be big in the midgame.
This is just not the OG lineup Miracle needs, where the hole team looks after him to get big.

Not really, Bulba Nyx was really good exactly did what you said. They also draft Rubick, Tusk (altho Kuro sucks on that ) Bounty... All of these are aggro supports that roam - be honest, how many games have you watched this qualifier?

Actually doing pretty okay with the double defensive strat too - often dual laning ogre with Miracle. This game they got Luna stolen in the draft though and the draft fell apart

And the Wisp worked like Omni Luna when Liquid thrashed VP, saved so many heroes, allowed great push, where SD had no real synergy and was more or less useless. Great move by AF tbh, the boys got screwed on draft.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 14:05:39
October 30 2016 14:04 GMT
#2748
Not the most, had to work. When i could sneak a game i mostly saw them beeing crushed cause of passive play or greed. Its good to hear that they start to adjust.

€dit Bulda and Miracle instead of Jerax an Fata is a heavy change.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 14:15:37
October 30 2016 14:13 GMT
#2749
On October 30 2016 23:04 its_a_me wrote:
Not the most, had to work. When i could sneak a game i mostly saw them beeing crushed cause of passive play or greed. Its good to hear that they start to adjust.

€dit Bulda and Miracle instead of Jerax an Fata is a heavy change.

Yeah they either do dual defensive with one guy helping out midlane, roaming a bit
Or one defensive one roaming aggro that often team up - now they have sky oracle that roam. Out of all their frequent issues, this is not the one. Execution of that aggro support often is though
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 14:33:58
October 30 2016 14:15 GMT
#2750
matumba on tilt... infecting everybody

this is the liquid we know, who were those imposters yesterday
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 14:44:17
October 30 2016 14:42 GMT
#2751
On October 30 2016 23:15 Nikto wrote:
matumba on tilt... infecting everybody

this is the liquid we know, who were those imposters yesterday

I've never seen him play this bad to be honest, it's obviously affecting him from that first blood feed in game1 he must have been raging tilted
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
October 30 2016 14:44 GMT
#2752
Matu is gonna be his own worst critic

What was the last pick jugg supposed to do this game?
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 14:47:25
October 30 2016 14:44 GMT
#2753
On October 30 2016 23:42 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 23:15 Nikto wrote:
matumba on tilt... infecting everybody

this is the liquid we know, who were those imposters yesterday

I've never seen him play this bad to be honest, it's obviously affecting him.


maybe not this bad, but close, this was very very bad, dying in lane, then the rosh, etc... but WP to AD FINEM, deserved

but I feel this is it, we will not be able to regroup...

also this is why I do not understand this format, what advantage has the team in the winner final have since they have to play after a loss... very badly though out
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
October 30 2016 14:51 GMT
#2754
Im with mixed feelings - my second favourite team is now in boston major, our boys will play more games so we can watch them play but...
What if they don't win against VP? Hopefully that doesnt happen, Fingers crossed.
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
October 30 2016 14:56 GMT
#2755
nothing, they miss the major, maybe even make some roster changes, who knows, I still think they will change roster after major even if they qualify, now some of you might disagree, but one series they played well yesterday, doesn't make them a team again...
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 30 2016 14:58 GMT
#2756
Yeah it's crunch time. I like their vision but if they go out with crap execution and tilt plays like these it'll be hard to keep the morale up, even continue without changes.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
October 30 2016 15:41 GMT
#2757
You guys went from 0-100 back to 0 real quick. At least Liquid get to play VP again lol
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
October 30 2016 16:45 GMT
#2758
Mind control single handedly lost them the game with those tide plays.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 30 2016 16:52 GMT
#2759
It was more team calls around MC, not his mistakes I'd say just wrong coordination (again)
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Jinkku
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland36 Posts
October 30 2016 16:53 GMT
#2760
On October 31 2016 01:45 SkelA wrote:
Mind control single handedly lost them the game with those tide plays.


Yeah, he was really sloppy on critical plays.

I think they are also way overthinking this Kuro carrying thing. I mean it's Matus first game as wisp... Kuro is great on the hero and Matu can play Luna fine. While they did ok, this thinking feels really forced.
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