I don't know. I'm feeling that if DC ever slump, Moon's negative energy that he seemed to give off might not work out so well against the other kind of energy/attitude/disposition.
Doesn't it feel too serious for the kind of situation and chaos that DC appeared to be in at say BTS?
On August 27 2016 00:32 TanGeng wrote: Is this team better?
I don't know. I'm feeling that if DC ever slump, Moon's negative energy that he seemed to give off might not work out so well against the other kind of energy/attitude/disposition.
Doesn't it feel too serious for the kind of situation and chaos that DC appeared to be in at say BTS?
Thats exactly my thought process 1by1.
I dont see this working, not with this kind of mentality. He would fit EG.
i have been struggling for 5 years in making my organization grow. ANy kind of sponsor would get my full respect and full communication. Loot Market was very blunt and it looks like DC got what they wanted and didn't uphold there end.
The problem as other parts of DC sees it might be that they joke around and have that mentality. He might want to change it to a different style and through that gain consistency.
On August 27 2016 04:24 Yurie wrote: The problem as other parts of DC sees it might be that they joke around and have that mentality. He might want to change it to a different style and through that gain consistency.
I know a lot of people who need that "joking around" factor to reduce their pressure and perform better in dota and even at their job. As a manager I would not make a change on the individual way to handle pressure at all.
On August 27 2016 04:24 Yurie wrote: The problem as other parts of DC sees it might be that they joke around and have that mentality. He might want to change it to a different style and through that gain consistency.
I know a lot of people who need that "joking around" factor to reduce their pressure and perform better in dota and even at their job. As a manager I would not make a change on the individual way to handle pressure at all.
I meant more along the line of there being two different styles in the group creating clashes. People joking around and "throwing" making the other people tilt even worse since it makes the pressure higher for them. A team like MVP is a good example of a team not being calm while playing and that working for them since it suits everybody.
On August 27 2016 04:24 Yurie wrote: The problem as other parts of DC sees it might be that they joke around and have that mentality. He might want to change it to a different style and through that gain consistency.
I know a lot of people who need that "joking around" factor to reduce their pressure and perform better in dota and even at their job. As a manager I would not make a change on the individual way to handle pressure at all.
Yeah, I don't think w33 would enjoy taking away the joking around part of things...
Here's a pretty good interview in my own language (with Eng subs) with Saksa and there's quite a few interesting questions and he gives a lot of information about his previous teams, DC's road to and during TI etc. Worth the watch imo.
On August 27 2016 13:42 common_cider wrote: 1. reason for acquiring moon is b/c he plays traditional offlaners and initiates. 2. also different personality of moo. 3. team decision as well
For Moo's sake, I really hope he's not learning about this from this interview but was told when he was let go.
Edit: After listening to the entire interview (the Moo vs Moon thing came up at the very end), it seems that Misery was already considering Moon before it was even known that he was kicked from OG. That, along with the traditional offlaner/initiator argument makes me appreciate and understand the decision much more.
I do wonder if and how much Moo was included in the "team decision" part of things, though. Loot Market (who, admittedly, might hold a bit of a grudge against the decision since they seem to be friends with the Moo family) said that it was done through "a message and without notice", but clearly they must have been talking about this for some time if it was already in Misery's mind before Moon was even kicked from OG.
On August 27 2016 13:42 common_cider wrote: 1. reason for acquiring moon is b/c he plays traditional offlaners and initiates. 2. also different personality of moo. 3. team decision as well
For Moo's sake, I really hope he's not learning about this from this interview but was told when he was let go.
Edit: After listening to the entire interview (the Moo vs Moon thing came up at the very end), it seems that Misery was already considering Moon before it was even known that he was kicked from OG. That, along with the traditional offlaner/initiator argument makes me appreciate and understand the decision much more.
I do wonder if and how much Moo was included in the "team decision" part of things, though. Loot Market (who, admittedly, might hold a bit of a grudge against the decision since they seem to be friends with the Moo family) said that it was done through "a message and without notice", but clearly they must have been talking about this for some time if it was already in Misery's mind before Moon was even kicked from OG.
Kicking moon was in flys mind from when they lost in Ti6 acording to moon and kicking w33 and misery was in puppeys mind before dotapit.Yet neither said anything before the players got kicked.
Well based on recent kicks in Dota pro scene, I think that players should always be aware that he might get kick after a Major/TI, regardless of teams being placed at the top or bottom of that tournament. Misery, w33, Net, Moon and Moo all said that they were unaware of the kicks. Well then I guess no player in a team is in a safe position unless he owns the team (Puppey, Fly, etc).
DC has literally never had a single good placement with any iteration in any tournament besides their miraculous TI6 run. I understand the rationale behind inviting them but they have the biggest chance out of all the invites to just buster out straight up (besides MVP I guess rofl).
On October 31 2016 08:05 hariooo wrote: DC has literally never had a single good placement with any iteration in any tournament besides their miraculous TI6 run. I understand the rationale behind inviting them but they have the biggest chance out of all the invites to just buster out straight up (besides MVP I guess rofl).
Eh I don't think their invite was ever in question - Valve prefers the NA region orgs And one trick pony or not - they'd still sail through NA qualifiers
yeah i mean it's not a question of their invite. but casters talk about them like they're obviously tier 1 NA. maybe they are. it's more likely than not but it's such a strong assertion for a team with zero games post TI6. I guess that's just how it goes when TI dominates the narrative
On October 31 2016 08:05 hariooo wrote: DC has literally never had a single good placement with any iteration in any tournament besides their miraculous TI6 run. I understand the rationale behind inviting them but they have the biggest chance out of all the invites to just buster out straight up (besides MVP I guess rofl).
I find it a bit weird how 3rd party organizers are inviting DC to events that happen as late as January (ESL and Dotapit). Their invite to the major is completely justified given how the invite system has worked this far. But I don't think the invite train should really extend to all 3rd party events given that they don't have an extended period of dominance and it's not like they are too busy playing everywhere not to have time for qualifiers, which at times could force the organizer to invite a team if they want them to play.
Maybe they'll perform great in the LANs they play this month and at the major and it'll be fine for the organizers, but it has some potential to be a pretty silly situation where the invites seem a bit dumb. Interesting to see how they look in their games before the major. Seems like Misery and Resolution are only now going to their team house in the US so I wonder how much they've even practiced together after TI.
It seems like DC are getting punished for what no team can afford these days - skipping competitive games. When even the TI Champ plays 5 or more times than you you're doing something wrong probably