On October 28 2015 01:30 Sn0_Man wrote: on lan, an ember should be able to remnant out of blink crush a decent portion of the time at the professional level not that this is the "does slardar counter ember" thread but u know
I mean 200ms average human reaction speed is obvious less than .35s cast time on crush but that's literally only if your finger is already on the hotkey and you are sort of tense and primed expecting the crush to come.
Any combination of shopping, farming, turn rate, looking at minimap, or literally anything could contribute to that extra 150ms.
On October 28 2015 06:25 Sn0_Man wrote: situation: ur ember farming in an exposed location while the enemy has a blink slardar not on the map correct play: be fucking ready to remnant out
I don't think you're wrong technically but it's one of those things that during an actual game I'd actually take a better than coinflip's chance that the Ember gets stunned just due to all the external variables.
which is why I didn't say that they get out every time or anything like that but on lan in a professional setting it's not unreasonable to suggest that blink slardar is far from simply able to stun ember at will.
On October 28 2015 00:12 spudde123 wrote: I'm confused how Dark Seer + Ember supposedly counters Slardar. A lot of the time I see the matchup I see Slardar doing well against Ember specifically, he has a good stun on a low cd and gives his team a big physical damage burst to kill the Ember quickly during that stun. Unless I'm misreading datdota Slardar is 19-12 against Ember in this patch. Also he is definitely not drafting alone, I would imagine EE has a lot of say in a situation like that where his hero is the last pick and they go for PA.
This event imo Secret's worst draft was against Fnatic g2. In their loss against EHOME they played like they were drunk for quite a while, and g1 against LGD had some very unforced errors from them too. I don't think their draft was the big issue in either of those games.
its not the ember.its the dark seer.he destroy slardar on lane.and he respond with PA after seeing the ember + dark seer.thats just too risky & your mid is lina.one vac wall half your hp gone.their teamfights was all over the place that game.i would've pick CK carry & mid QoP for better initiation & followup in fights.but puppey probably dont want to risk ember vs QoP mid matchup.i seriously hate that draft so much
What part of CK is good vs. Ember? His stun/rift, which have a long cast time and are easily dodgeable, or his ult, which die to a single sleight?
i dont see how tahts relevant to the discussion. im talking about dark seer destroying their whole line up that game & flame guard + ion shell combo are too strong against squishy hero like PA. A CK draft would've secured an outdraft no matter what
and envy obviously into 2d only also doesn't make sense cause xiitzu is into western animation not anime(or maybe i'm wrong and she's could also be a weeb)
On October 28 2015 06:25 Sn0_Man wrote: situation: ur ember farming in an exposed location while the enemy has a blink slardar not on the map correct play: be fucking ready to remnant out
There's a reason DotA is so tough despite you control only one unit (usually).
You have to be thinking about item builds, buying items/couriers/checking clock for stacking, watching the minimap, concentrating on last hitting, communicating with your team mates at any given time. It's really not easy to focus on all these things at the same time. That's why top pros are so much better than normal players.
i think the chimestry has never been higher in Secret
this Secret may not have the potential of the last one but this one really feels like a single unit during games, which i think its much more important
Yeah they are very synced as a team atm. Even their first games together it didn't seem like they were a new team that has some synergy issues to work out.
It probably helps alot that they don't wanna kill each other and actually scrim together lol
Feels like they trust each other a great deal and are just generally on the same page. They work really well as a team, and they're better than the sum of their parts, and the parts are pretty good anyway.
IDK how to deal with supporting a team that's a favourite in tournaments though. And that I can feel confident will win if they have a 40k lead. This is so confusing.
On October 30 2015 09:33 FuzzyJAM wrote: Feels like they trust each other a great deal and are just generally on the same page. They work really well as a team, and they're better than the sum of their parts, and the parts are pretty good anyway.
IDK how to deal with supporting a team that's a favourite in tournaments though. And that I can feel confident will win if they have a 40k lead. This is so confusing.
Yep, was randomly thinking about the same thing a couple of days ago. It doesnt feel the same as rooting for the old C9 :D. I think we were affected by the stockholm syndrome inflicted upon us by old C9.
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