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cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
December 04 2014 14:35 GMT
#561
Yea, Sing is just much better when they give him space like it's happening.

And Loda is perfoming really well! (Sadly he did that play at Rosh Pit against VG, but shit happens)
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2072 Posts
December 04 2014 15:01 GMT
#562
On December 04 2014 23:28 SFDuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 22:07 weiliem wrote:
How about h4nn1?

He's a good player, but I don't really see him as an improvement over any of the TT cores. Now that TT seem to be somewhat getting their shit together in terms of drafts and strategy, the major glaring weakness that remains is their support play. EGM has performed below his standards on Alliance, and Bulba just looks completely lost most games on support.

Whether they choose to address this by swapping out a player or adjusting roles (Sing support? Seems to be working out decently so far) or just getting their existing supports more experience, I think they'll be fine as a team once they do. Maybe not top 3 TI5, but a team that can actually be a contender for tournament wins.

The thing is that with the amount of star players in their lineup, they should be more than just contenders for tournaments. lol
Oppa feeding style
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
December 04 2014 21:35 GMT
#563
Pretty embarrassing game for TT...
AdministratorTeam Liquid VP of Esports
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-04 21:59:18
December 04 2014 21:58 GMT
#564
Yea, really bad game, the worst so far

Am I the only one who think Sing would fit Alliance?

Edit: and holy shit, what an awful tournament by bulba. seriously, 3k mmr plays
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
December 04 2014 22:55 GMT
#565
disaster!
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
December 04 2014 23:03 GMT
#566
oh my god bulba was so bad again

egm played really bad against NOT too
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
December 05 2014 00:52 GMT
#567
On December 05 2014 00:01 weiliem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 23:28 SFDuality wrote:
On December 04 2014 22:07 weiliem wrote:
How about h4nn1?

He's a good player, but I don't really see him as an improvement over any of the TT cores. Now that TT seem to be somewhat getting their shit together in terms of drafts and strategy, the major glaring weakness that remains is their support play. EGM has performed below his standards on Alliance, and Bulba just looks completely lost most games on support.

Whether they choose to address this by swapping out a player or adjusting roles (Sing support? Seems to be working out decently so far) or just getting their existing supports more experience, I think they'll be fine as a team once they do. Maybe not top 3 TI5, but a team that can actually be a contender for tournament wins.

The thing is that with the amount of star players in their lineup, they should be more than just contenders for tournaments. lol

They're star players, but not necessarily championship players. I think it's time to accept that reality. As much as I would love for TT to sweep every tournament that exists, it's just not something that seems likely with their lineup.

I've adjusted my expectations. I'll be content for them to not be terrible.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 05 2014 02:06 GMT
#568
On December 05 2014 00:01 weiliem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 23:28 SFDuality wrote:
On December 04 2014 22:07 weiliem wrote:
How about h4nn1?

He's a good player, but I don't really see him as an improvement over any of the TT cores. Now that TT seem to be somewhat getting their shit together in terms of drafts and strategy, the major glaring weakness that remains is their support play. EGM has performed below his standards on Alliance, and Bulba just looks completely lost most games on support.

Whether they choose to address this by swapping out a player or adjusting roles (Sing support? Seems to be working out decently so far) or just getting their existing supports more experience, I think they'll be fine as a team once they do. Maybe not top 3 TI5, but a team that can actually be a contender for tournament wins.

The thing is that with the amount of star players in their lineup, they should be more than just contenders for tournaments. lol


Star players being like...1?

EGM's the only player that's been on a team that dominated the scene, and that was in 2013 with Alliance.

SingSing with C9 was good, but their team was never the favourites going into tournaments. And C9's actually been a lot more consistent against much more international competition since he left (though I wouldn't automatically say the two are directly connected). But sure, I'll accept calling him a star player at some points in his career.

Bulba, Pajkatt and Qoqjva have basically always been middling players. Basically no real results, even when competition was a lot weaker. I mean, the best you can say about them is that they looked really good in games when they got knocked out of tournaments.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 11:38:55
December 05 2014 11:38 GMT
#569
On December 05 2014 09:52 SFDuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2014 00:01 weiliem wrote:
On December 04 2014 23:28 SFDuality wrote:
On December 04 2014 22:07 weiliem wrote:
How about h4nn1?

He's a good player, but I don't really see him as an improvement over any of the TT cores. Now that TT seem to be somewhat getting their shit together in terms of drafts and strategy, the major glaring weakness that remains is their support play. EGM has performed below his standards on Alliance, and Bulba just looks completely lost most games on support.

Whether they choose to address this by swapping out a player or adjusting roles (Sing support? Seems to be working out decently so far) or just getting their existing supports more experience, I think they'll be fine as a team once they do. Maybe not top 3 TI5, but a team that can actually be a contender for tournament wins.

The thing is that with the amount of star players in their lineup, they should be more than just contenders for tournaments. lol

They're star players, but not necessarily championship players. I think it's time to accept that reality. As much as I would love for TT to sweep every tournament that exists, it's just not something that seems likely with their lineup.

I've adjusted my expectations. I'll be content for them to not be terrible.


IMO All this team needs is a leader. 3/4 losses in this tournament are due to extremely bad fights. The perfect example is the game against secret. And this happens a lot - weird gank attempts, weak (for this level of play) map awareness etc.
They have the potential, but have to work it out. I've adjusted my expectations too, but i secretly hope that they can win a game or two against Vici.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
December 05 2014 13:30 GMT
#570
Am I the only one ton see this coming ? Bulba out Akke IN, LodA stay on the team new 2015 TT roster.
i'm telling it.
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Hoenicker
Profile Joined February 2012
243 Posts
December 05 2014 13:52 GMT
#571
On December 05 2014 22:30 VelJa wrote:
Am I the only one ton see this coming ? Bulba out Akke IN, LodA stay on the team new 2015 TT roster.
i'm telling it.

Doubt that would ever happen as Bulba and Qojqva are mates and would most likely leave together, in which case (akke + bulldog in) which would be... Alliance + sing..
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
December 05 2014 14:00 GMT
#572
On December 05 2014 22:52 Hoenicker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2014 22:30 VelJa wrote:
Am I the only one ton see this coming ? Bulba out Akke IN, LodA stay on the team new 2015 TT roster.
i'm telling it.

Doubt that would ever happen as Bulba and Qojqva are mates and would most likely leave together, in which case (akke + bulldog in) which would be... Alliance + sing..


Well that's what i said .. if LodA stay, he takes Qojqva's place...
Qojqva + bulba out // loda akke in
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
December 05 2014 14:03 GMT
#573
On December 05 2014 22:30 VelJa wrote:
Am I the only one ton see this coming ? Bulba out Akke IN, LodA stay on the team new 2015 TT roster.
i'm telling it.

Wouldn't they just go to alliance since the name is better than TT and the sponsor is the same? :p
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
December 05 2014 14:05 GMT
#574
On December 05 2014 23:03 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2014 22:30 VelJa wrote:
Am I the only one ton see this coming ? Bulba out Akke IN, LodA stay on the team new 2015 TT roster.
i'm telling it.

Wouldn't they just go to alliance since the name is better than TT and the sponsor is the same? :p



ahhhh stop harassing me ! :D

and Btw Alliance is not a great name .. i miss No Tidehunter so hard
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Moustache Cash Stash
Profile Joined February 2014
United States222 Posts
December 05 2014 14:30 GMT
#575
No Tidehunter was the best. Such a high quality and creative logo.
You got a 4x multicast? You must be so good at Dota.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
December 05 2014 14:37 GMT
#576
On December 05 2014 23:30 Moustache Cash Stash wrote:
No Tidehunter was the best. Such a high quality and creative logo.

mmmm
[image loading]
better quality, better creativity !

joking
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
December 05 2014 14:41 GMT
#577
Yea, I said earlier in this thread that I think Sing would be a really good fit for Alliance.

Loda, Sing, Bulldog, Akke and EGM/Misery is a really good and balanced lineup. Doubt we'll ever see it though.
Moustache Cash Stash
Profile Joined February 2014
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 14:47:21
December 05 2014 14:47 GMT
#578
On December 05 2014 23:41 cuckoo wrote:
Yea, I said earlier in this thread that I think Sing would be a really good fit for Alliance.

Loda, Sing, Bulldog, Akke and EGM/Misery is a really good and balanced lineup. Doubt we'll ever see it though.

That would be a good lineup. Misery has always impressed me with Alliance, but the stand ins for mid have been meh. Chessie never seemed to live up to potential for me, but with Sing, I could see Alliance breaking out again.
You got a 4x multicast? You must be so good at Dota.
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
December 05 2014 14:53 GMT
#579
People underestimate Sing a lot, really. Per example, I don't think C9 is doing better because he left, but mostly because they're more experienced and choose better team fights.

I feel they are exactly on the same level they were in the TI4 series against Vici. They lost because of a stupid decision/drafting, which they still do, not due to gameplay.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
December 05 2014 15:15 GMT
#580
Well Sing is great, love his playstyle, personality and shit.
But i dont think he will fit in this team, Alliance has a leitmotiv : all swedish players.
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
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