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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
November 27 2014 08:02 GMT
#521
When pj plays mid its usually as a carryish hero no? Since qojqva have been playing tempo kinds like qop and storm. So it kinda mean that PJ have to play lc/viper/razor/prophet every other game, since Loda will play the real carries.
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
November 27 2014 10:42 GMT
#522
PJ or Loda should play offlane, definetly. But just the leadership from Loda might help, and I think he might enjoy playing with TT, seeing we're rather aggressive
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
November 28 2014 00:06 GMT
#523
How many more games should PJ throw?
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 00:31:00
November 28 2014 00:28 GMT
#524
if this isn't clear already, they aren't going anywhere with this roster

giving away the same draft that crushed them in game 1 is just stupid. no drafter, no leader

pajkatt was so mad after game 1 and bulba was pretty much almost crying, holy shit. even the coach didnt say a single word. why the fuck they have him

hopefully loda can help them, idk, actually disappointed
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
November 28 2014 02:51 GMT
#525
It's weird to see SingSing play offlane after seeing him play mid so much (even before C9 days). It's also weird to have three players switch between 1-3 roles so they don't have a clear mid, safelane, and offlaner. I think it affects how they practice since their roles are not clear cut. Maybe if they can finalize their roles, it's gonna be fun to see SingSing pull and IceIceIce (you know, IceIceIce played Mid for Zenith and Offlane for DK and ViCi).
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 28 2014 07:50 GMT
#526
Pajkatt seems toxic to me
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
November 28 2014 08:35 GMT
#527
to be fair they shouldn't have even had to play in those conditions. Whichever team won game 1 was going to win game 2. I mean playing till two or three in the morning is pretty stupid, so I think we can see the lack of concentration in the early game 2. I mean being super professional you have to be able to forget game 1, forget the time, and just play on, but the situation was also pretty uncool.
Hoenicker
Profile Joined February 2012
243 Posts
November 28 2014 09:37 GMT
#528
On November 28 2014 17:35 HotShizz wrote:
to be fair they shouldn't have even had to play in those conditions. Whichever team won game 1 was going to win game 2. I mean playing till two or three in the morning is pretty stupid, so I think we can see the lack of concentration in the early game 2. I mean being super professional you have to be able to forget game 1, forget the time, and just play on, but the situation was also pretty uncool.


True, but PJ seemed to be on tilt after losing the first game, gesticulating wildly, I dont understand what they were thinking during game 2s draft.
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
November 28 2014 09:44 GMT
#529
On November 28 2014 16:50 LemOn wrote:
Pajkatt seems toxic to me


What makes you say that?
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 28 2014 10:08 GMT
#530
On November 28 2014 18:44 dizzy101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 16:50 LemOn wrote:
Pajkatt seems toxic to me


What makes you say that?

he throws quite a bit, that game was pretty bad from him on doom with the linken doom and afterwards he started shouting etc. doesnt seem like a team player to me rly
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
November 28 2014 10:42 GMT
#531
Gone are the days where pajkatt was regarded as a rising solo mid player (gosugamers days). Now he is just an average carry.

Again don't see how this team can progress with the current lineup. Don't know what they can do to change either. Sing support Bulba offlane should be the next thing they try, but realistically someone must leave. Maybe they could emulate EG too. Replicating a PPD is an issue though.
Hoenicker
Profile Joined February 2012
243 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 10:46:30
November 28 2014 10:44 GMT
#532
On November 28 2014 19:08 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 18:44 dizzy101 wrote:
On November 28 2014 16:50 LemOn wrote:
Pajkatt seems toxic to me


What makes you say that?

he throws quite a bit, that game was pretty bad from him on doom with the linken doom and afterwards he started shouting etc. doesnt seem like a team player to me rly


I noticed this too, although he seemed to be angry at bulbba, I think bulbba was supposed to break the linkens for him a few times, and he miss timed. I dont think doom was a great draft in that lineup, and bulbba does most of the drafting I think. PJ seemed pretty stressed out, and thats never good for a player.

edit: However, in a healthy team you should be able to get angry at a team mate as long as you have a valid point, and we dont know what he was saying so can't really judge.
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 10:51:17
November 28 2014 10:50 GMT
#533
i think PJ should stay, honestly
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 10:51:42
November 28 2014 10:51 GMT
#534
To be honest, although Pajkatt played bad in game 1, I think it is good that he at least tries to discuss or argue within the team. The rest just looked defeated and lost game 2 even before it started.
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cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
November 28 2014 10:51 GMT
#535
On November 28 2014 19:51 hewley wrote:
To be honest, although Pajkatt played bad in game 1, I think it is good that he at least tries to discuss or argue within the team. If you saw the rest, especially Qojqva, Sing and Bulba just did not react and got emo after that game. How can you win with this loser/defeated attitude in dota2?


yes

that's exactly what i think

whatever. everyone has bad games, he played a good game 2 later.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44263 Posts
November 28 2014 11:27 GMT
#536
On November 28 2014 19:42 DucK- wrote:
Gone are the days where pajkatt was regarded as a rising solo mid player (gosugamers days). Now he is just an average carry.

Again don't see how this team can progress with the current lineup. Don't know what they can do to change either. Sing support Bulba offlane should be the next thing they try, but realistically someone must leave. Maybe they could emulate EG too. Replicating a PPD is an issue though.

this is why teams need player like EE, ppd, s4 and puppey.
this is a quote
Hoenicker
Profile Joined February 2012
243 Posts
November 28 2014 11:28 GMT
#537
On November 28 2014 19:51 cuckoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 19:51 hewley wrote:
To be honest, although Pajkatt played bad in game 1, I think it is good that he at least tries to discuss or argue within the team. If you saw the rest, especially Qojqva, Sing and Bulba just did not react and got emo after that game. How can you win with this loser/defeated attitude in dota2?


yes

that's exactly what i think

whatever. everyone has bad games, he played a good game 2 later.


He got caught out twice at the start of game 2, and was almost immidiately behind in farm. They made a tiny comeback but they were defeated during draft, and they played like it.
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
November 28 2014 12:59 GMT
#538
TT isn't doing that bad. They just have to counter the other teams better in the draft phase (I'm very curious to see how VP will do once someone takes away their PA). Yea, there were some sloppy plays yesterday (Doom on PA Linken's comes to mind), but overall they're playing alright -- not every team can be on top.
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cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 13:55:36
November 28 2014 13:55 GMT
#539
yea, but the whole team played SHIT early in the second game. egm first blood was so horrible

but I do agree that TT isn't as bad as people say. but i also think they're not gonna win anything without at least 1 roster change (they need leadership, that simple really)
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
November 28 2014 23:00 GMT
#540


Pretty interesting from fng. He said Bulba asked him what they could do better and fng said pretty much: "You pick Tidehunter, but you don't give him space. You can't pick Centaur, Brew offlane and don't help him"

I've been talking about this a lot. People say Sing don't do shit in offlane, but the team don't play around him, they just want to farm farm and play to the late game. Although this have changed a bit in the DreamLeague, you can still see how they don't ever help the offlane to accomplish something.

Also pretty cool how he seems to be getting along with the other pros, I can see him joining an european team in the future
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