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On December 06 2014 00:15 VelJa wrote: Well Sing is great, love his playstyle, personality and shit. But i dont think he will fit in this team, Alliance has a leitmotiv : all swedish players.
Well he's Dutch... its not a very long stretch tbh (though most Dutchies have a paler, blonder complexion compared to singsing).
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On December 05 2014 23:00 VelJa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2014 22:52 Hoenicker wrote:On December 05 2014 22:30 VelJa wrote: Am I the only one ton see this coming ? Bulba out Akke IN, LodA stay on the team new 2015 TT roster. i'm telling it. Doubt that would ever happen as Bulba and Qojqva are mates and would most likely leave together, in which case (akke + bulldog in) which would be... Alliance + sing.. Well that's what i said .. if LodA stay, he takes Qojqva's place... Qojqva + bulba out // loda akke in
Or how about egm and sing to alliance. Misery to reunite with pajkatt.
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Did I really watch a TT game where they outpicked their opponents instead of getting outpicked?
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that was more their opponents outpicking themselves though...
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Why can't tinker play like that all the time? 
Maybe they did the EG strat of suck day one to avoid playing someone.
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Or maybe they are still TT...
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Well game 3 was the worst execution in pro dota for like 3 months. The were loosing 30:10 and still having a chance... Imagine if they didn't fail in any of the 15 fights that happened that game... Vici played well, but tinker played really really really bad. I am switching my expectations from some to none. There is no future in that team. Liquid looked exactly the same right before blog boy got kicked.
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TT won game 1 because Loda was ganging even thought he is a carry, and when playing game 2-4 he went full farm but his supports cant do shit, what happen with TT crews these days?, i think disband may occur when they fail at Captain Draft and they fail in attempt to 1-2 tournaments after that.
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On December 06 2014 10:29 NInoff wrote: Well game 3 was the worst execution in pro dota for like 3 months.
This whole tournament there have been a lot of 1-by-1 wipes happening to TT.
Lack of dewarding and general ward awareness, uncoordinated play that seems to lack tactical or strategic goals, stalled item progression...
This tournament the team showed an especially poor performance in things like 'basic technical skills' including ability to last-hit creeps in an uncontested situation. Very sloppy and underwhelming. I hope this situation improves and wish the team good luck in the future as they are long-standing members of the community and fan favorites!
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bulba played like a 3k mmr player all tournament
he can't deal with pressure at all
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Good players playing uncomfortable roles = average team. Hope the Pajkatt support experiment is over. Don't think you can expect too much with a standin though but it seems like the team is never making any progress.
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from what i've seen this tournament (which isn't all their matches, mostly day 1/2 stuff): Loda worked well with the team, they obviously missed shots and stuff but that might just be because loda does things differently normally, they could adapt to that (altho, same goes for the current squad, they should be good enough really) Sing mid on certain heroes is really good (the first game they played where he was puck he played better than i've seen in a long time) Pajkatt was on point some games, mostly mediocre. Not sure, he seemed to be carrying the team at dreamhack and now he's not at that level. Maybe he just didnt practise enough, TT got a last-min invite/replacement ofc EGM just was on/off during games, sometimes he had the plays but often i felt he was in the wrong place and the wrong time. He did play some good games as well, but i've seen better. Again, might be because of little practise compared to normal. Bulba played the worst imo, most mistakes/lowest impact almost all games. Didn't shine like he did for Liquid at TI. If i had to replace someone of this squad, it'd be Bulba and get an actual support player to see if that works better. I still think that the mistake they made here is put too many (former) core players on one squad where they suffer as a result. I think Sing got criticised alot before this tourney but that he showed that if he's given space on lane (read: not left to his own devices on a 1v3 offlane) he can be that Semi-carry they need. They just need to find the right spot for the rest of the squad on how to play with that and around each other, but tbh I think this set of players (both with Loda and with Qojqva) will not work out, sadly.
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After that performance at The Summit. I guess Tinker just needs to settle down and miss one tournament to get their shit together? Attending so many LAN tournaments and not practicing much and theory-crafting could be contributing to their bad plays and decisions. Or maybe a shuffle to actually get a real position 5 instead
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On December 09 2014 15:23 Smashdotz wrote: After that performance at The Summit. I guess Tinker just needs to settle down and miss one tournament to get their shit together? Attending so many LAN tournaments and not practicing much and theory-crafting could be contributing to their bad plays and decisions. Or maybe a shuffle to actually get a real position 5 instead
Won't help team consists of over-glorified people that simply do not care. This team really needs to disband it will do a big favor to all the TT blind fans out there.
Individually these players have semi-decent skill but team wise they are just not good enough and do not wan't to follow any type of order, they do what they want which means they will never get out of this so called slump they have been ever since they created this team.
They have no leader and all of them as i said above are glorified to oblivion they need to do a quick reality check and get back to actually playing the game as it is ment to be played - TEAM not single individuals pretending to be a team.
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Actually i was quite impressed by them, they were the only team that really crushed VG in a game, that for an unprepared team playing with a standin... C9 took a game off VG too, but more out of luck than anything else...
They have some issues but I think they should be good enough to contest the best teams in another month or two. Sing is a try hard guy and so is bulbba, I think they'll work it out.
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It's consistent inconsistency, but I don't think it looks like things are falling apart.
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On December 09 2014 19:11 Hoenicker wrote: Actually i was quite impressed by them, they were the only team that really crushed VG in a game, that for an unprepared team playing with a standin... C9 took a game off VG too, but more out of luck than anything else...
They have some issues but I think they should be good enough to contest the best teams in another month or two. Sing is a try hard guy and so is bulbba, I think they'll work it out. 1) they wont solve their issues. they did not improve enough in the last few months 2) they crushed vg because they had a way better draft and vg made alot of mistakes. did they have any chance in the next 3 games? no
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On December 09 2014 22:09 TRAP[yoo] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 19:11 Hoenicker wrote: Actually i was quite impressed by them, they were the only team that really crushed VG in a game, that for an unprepared team playing with a standin... C9 took a game off VG too, but more out of luck than anything else...
They have some issues but I think they should be good enough to contest the best teams in another month or two. Sing is a try hard guy and so is bulbba, I think they'll work it out. 1) they wont solve their issues. they did not improve enough in the last few months 2) they crushed vg because they had a way better draft and vg made alot of mistakes. did they have any chance in the next 3 games? no
hmm I smell a negative nancy.... Why do you believe they wont solve their issues? I've seen them improving for sure. C9 had no chance against VG in ANY of their games (VG threw the game C9 took off em). Time will tell I guess.. .
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On December 09 2014 22:32 Hoenicker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 22:09 TRAP[yoo] wrote:On December 09 2014 19:11 Hoenicker wrote: Actually i was quite impressed by them, they were the only team that really crushed VG in a game, that for an unprepared team playing with a standin... C9 took a game off VG too, but more out of luck than anything else...
They have some issues but I think they should be good enough to contest the best teams in another month or two. Sing is a try hard guy and so is bulbba, I think they'll work it out. 1) they wont solve their issues. they did not improve enough in the last few months 2) they crushed vg because they had a way better draft and vg made alot of mistakes. did they have any chance in the next 3 games? no hmm I smell a negative nancy.... Why do you believe they wont solve their issues? I've seen them improving for sure. C9 had no chance against VG in ANY of their games (VG threw the game C9 took off em). Time will tell I guess.. . im just being realistic. i once was excited about TT but now its already too late for them. the reasons are all in this thread....just read some of the other posts: they dont have a good "5", they dont have a leader, their support duo has no synergy (they change roles way too often), they dont have a good offlaner that creates space (sing can be one but it will take time; qojqva is a good player but he wants to farm all the time), their b/p isnt up to par (no excellent drafter and some players seem to have a problem with the "meta" heroes) most of these things could be solved by time (yes you are right) but i dont think its gonna happen. there will be another shuffle next year and i cant see TT sticking together when they dont win anything. another thing that bugs me is that they dont draft around their players. for example sing seems to be lost in this team. they dont let him mid every game and rather send him offlane than to pick him some signature hero
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