Fear Discussion

On May 29 2014 01:39 Chewbacca. wrote:
Well EG is playing in a few hours so I guess we'll see, although I think they may have tweeted about it already if he was playing.

On May 29 2014 01:50 OuchyDathurts wrote:


I'm not going to lie, I'm a little butthurt you did that in like 2 minutes when it took me actual hours to make that picture. I have no idea wtf I'm doing and had to look shit up to make it lol.

On May 29 2014 01:53 kirsed wrote:


Sorry dude couldn't help myself.

On May 29 2014 01:56 kirsed wrote:
Here something nice too.

On May 29 2014 01:58 kirsed wrote:
Should link to his set in op.

http://www.dota2.com/store/itemdetails/20402?r=258

On May 29 2014 01:56 kirsed wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Here something nice too.

On May 29 2014 03:46 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
if EG couldn't field Old Man for TI4, they won't make it to top6.

On May 29 2014 03:55 Yamulo wrote:

EG will be atleast top 6

On May 29 2014 03:59 ForTehDarkseid wrote:

With Mason standing in? I haven't seen following EG's online victories, but I think no one would deny it's all about outstanding support play and Universe's plays which make team snowball right from laning phase.

The problem is that you don't have a back plan with that kind of setup.

On May 30 2014 02:42 widdox wrote:
I don't think that fear backing out will be an option for Valve if EG wants to keep its direct invite. That is what has me concerned. I will cheer for EG no matter what, but I hate to see them lose their spot.

On May 30 2014 02:42 widdox wrote:
I don't think that fear backing out will be an option for Valve if EG wants to keep its direct invite. That is what has me concerned. I will cheer for EG no matter what, but I hate to see them lose their spot.

On May 30 2014 00:06 Snorkle wrote:
When fear first said that he had tennis elbow I messaged him links to radial and cubital tunnel syndrome because I have the cubital form and it sounded exactly like what he had. Im not sure how big a difference it makes since conservative treatment is basically the same - rest and stretching.

I dont know about tennis elbow but my doc told me a cortisone shot was an option for my cts if rest and stretching didnt help and then surgery after that. If Fear really wants to play TI his best option is probably to get a cortisone shot and then if it is necessary have surgery after the event.

On May 30 2014 06:23 TArujo wrote:
well he is playing a lot of games on his stream today so i guess that's a good indication on his progress? I remember before he went to BTS he was always streaming only 1 game a day with tinker

On May 30 2014 16:29 Shock710 wrote:
if mason does play at TI and EG win, what happens to fear, does he get the player split of money, or would he be like a coach for EG?

On May 30 2014 17:19 Fwizzz wrote:
oh wow i just picked up this. it's from reddit. i don't know if it's true though.
It says that Fear was kicked from EG because he tried to join NAR but was denied.
take it with a little salt. this may be related to the upcoming announcement.
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/24vzj9/log_of_arteezys_qa_on_stream/chba0d2

On May 31 2014 00:24 Snorkle wrote:
EG players have casually mentioned they will be moving to a bootcamp pre-ti. I don't remember where exactly

On May 31 2014 03:09 Snorkle wrote:
That is not a confirm. I don't think you understand how nadota works.

On May 31 2014 03:10 Chewbacca. wrote:


Yeah and I think Mason's comment can be read as a fake excited/sarcastic/surprised tone, as if he himself was hearing about it for the first time, just as easily as it could be read as a confirmation.

On May 31 2014 03:20 theprofessor wrote:


any chance you can copy paste the nadota stuff. cant access the site at work

On May 31 2014 03:20 theprofessor wrote:


any chance you can copy paste the nadota stuff. cant access the site at work

On May 31 2014 03:35 Chewbacca. wrote:


wow me standing in at ti4 O_O!!!

That's what Mason said. Just the presence of the O_O and the extra !!! make me pause a little

On May 31 2014 04:36 Sbrubbles wrote:
I would very much doubt it, but there's always the possibility he assumes a "coach" role and the remaining players agree on giving him a share.

On May 31 2014 04:44 Ayaz2810 wrote:


Maybe I'm just a nice guy but I would totally share =\

On May 31 2014 04:44 Ayaz2810 wrote:


Maybe I'm just a nice guy but I would totally share =\

On June 03 2014 07:47 opterown wrote:
i've heard that it's common knowledge in high-level NA pubs that fear has been effectively kicked from EG for some time, and that his injury was a cover for mason staying? since EG think they are better with mason than fear. any further news/confirmation/otherwise about this? sucks hard for him =/

On June 03 2014 08:04 BlackGosu wrote:
Apparently Fear got kicked and he tried to join NAR LOL

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/24vzj9/log_of_arteezys_qa_on_stream/chba0d2

On June 03 2014 07:47 opterown wrote:
i've heard that it's common knowledge in high-level NA pubs that fear has been effectively kicked from EG for some time, and that his injury was a cover for mason staying? since EG think they are better with mason than fear. any further news/confirmation/otherwise about this? sucks hard for him =/

On June 03 2014 08:19 Comeh wrote:

Sounds like utter bullshit to me. Wrist / arm injuries are kind of a thing in esports, so its not unlikely it would affect someone as big as Fear.

On June 03 2014 08:19 Plansix wrote:
That link sounds like a pile of BS that some reddit kid is just making up. I like how he tells other EG players to book mark and cleck back in a few weeks, rather than provide evidence.

High level Internet rumor trolling.

On June 03 2014 08:19 Plansix wrote:
That link sounds like a pile of BS that some reddit kid is just making up. I like how he tells other EG players to book mark and cleck back in a few weeks, rather than provide evidence.

High level Internet rumor trolling.

Lol those are his only two post ever and he uses the "my dad works for Nintendo" excuse as evidence.

On June 03 2014 08:41 BlackGosu wrote:

do you not understand what a throwaway is?

and posts like these are proving these true

[–]cheami 6 points 3 hours ago
Yup, all the casual people on r/dota2 will continue to deny it. Obvious for weeks now.
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On June 03 2014 09:08 BlackGosu wrote:
that is true, but that would be self destruct. sure he takes down EG with him, but that is the end of his dota career. it'll ruin his image of trust and loyalty. ruining the chance of 4 other players who deserve win ti

On June 03 2014 09:46 tauon wrote:
I might be a discenting voice, but I think EG generally treats it's players fairly well and is quite loyal to them. I think a figure like Fear will always have a place on EG.

On June 03 2014 10:00 Omigawa wrote:


Eh, it's not so much that I don't think Fear will have a place with EG when he returns from his injury, more so that I think if EG can live up to the hype (top 3 TI, wins one of the majors they will be participating in prior to TI4) that management will be hesitant to break that up. Not to mention, I'm pretty sure Mason has played more games with this line-up than Fear has, and if he hasn't yet he will have post-TI4.

The one bad thing about LiquidDota is it's not as easy to tell where people are from. The best sports related analogy I can make is to American football (if you're not from the U.S. this probably won't make much sense, it happened awhile back), when Drew Bledsoe got injured and Tom Brady was named the starter. Even though Drew Bledsoe was still a good player, and only lost his starting job due to injury, Tom Brady was too good to replace and the team performed too well to warrant his replacement. The same can be said for Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick more recently.

edit: this is all assuming Fear does return from his injury. Who knows, he could retire

On June 03 2014 12:27 Caladbolg wrote:
I still think that EG can only go far with Fear. Without a top tier carry player like him (with impeccable mechanics AND late-game decision making), no team can really go far in TI4.

On June 03 2014 16:44 lolnoty wrote:
I just hope that after TI4, Fear is able to go back to pursuing his dream, because the guy has worked so damn hard and is very talented. What Monolith wrote about Fear couldn't be more accurate re: the pillar of NA dota.



I think Mason is 95% of what Fear was in terms of being a carry, so it's impossible to blame or credit TI4 results on whatever happens.

On June 03 2014 22:58 Spicy_Curry wrote:


When it comes down to it, games are going to go long against heavy hitting teams like DK, iG, NB, and whoever. Having someone like mason who excels at early midgame like every other budding chinese team doesnt help there at all. However, Fear, unlike everyone else on EG except for universe, has the experience to handle situations that arise in the late game. They need someone who understands the lategame and fear has played dota since there was only late game. Where one pick off just ends your entire run.

On June 03 2014 23:08 bluzi wrote:


in any major competition there is a big importance for a leader , when things get tough he can keep them togther where mason is a good player he isnt a leader (yet) and will not be consider one for the team , i think the mentality aspect is a big thing when you want to win the dota world cup , its not just talent mechanics that makes you a TI winner.

On June 04 2014 15:24 Kishin2 wrote:
Any news on whether or not Fear will do anything at TI4? It would be pretty cool to see him cast or get on the analyst panel.

On June 09 2014 22:43 Chewbacca. wrote:
https://twitter.com/FearDotA/status/475842284928262144

Fear carrying the team like normal

On June 10 2014 04:29 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Wonder what kind of prize money cut the coach gets?

On June 10 2014 06:04 Spicy_Curry wrote:


iirc eg will split TI4 pot 7 ways

5 players
1 coach
1 organization

On June 10 2014 06:04 Spicy_Curry wrote:


iirc eg will split TI4 pot 7 ways

5 players
1 coach
1 organization

On June 11 2014 10:51 NbSky wrote:
considering they just finished a lan, and have another one in a few days I doubt anytime soon

On June 19 2014 19:57 AbareKiller wrote:
Just speaking hypothetically, how likely is it for Captain America to join back up with DeMoN and Bulba, either in Liquid or another project? Since I don't really think EG is going to drop Mason, unless he chokes hard at Ti4 like Luo did at SL9

On June 20 2014 15:07 AbareKiller wrote:
Bulba 5 DeMoN 4 Qojqva 2 Fear 1 + someone on 3?

On June 20 2014 09:30 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Putting Fear on support is a waste, the only reason he was doing it before on EG is his team was too awful to be trusted to not feed the game away before he came online.

On July 19 2014 07:05 holycrapitsTony wrote:
I miss Fear~~

Would love to see him playing right now, but they're doing fantastic so far without him.

On July 19 2014 05:26 AwfuL_ wrote:


This post is pretty old but it's pretty sad to see that some people still think putting your best players on support is a waste.

On August 01 2014 09:00 GranDGranT wrote:
Chessie and Fear tried out by EG xD

On August 05 2014 11:34 shizaep wrote:


So, in short, he got booted from EG.

Some facts:
1) Has the ability to play dota, given how much time he's been streaming lately
2) If post is true and he's trying out for EG, he wants to be playing for EG
3) He's not playing for EG

I don't know, but EG's just seemed sketchy to me lately. The whole injury fiasco and then starting to stream pretty extensively like 2 days right after TI4. And Mason getting the boot right after TI just doesn't feel right either.

On August 05 2014 22:48 Diavlo wrote:

How are they sketchy?
All we know right now is that EG wanted to try out carry players, the position where they originally needed a stand-in for.
They said so to Mason who, understandably, took that badly and left.

Now EG is trying out players, including Fear. I don't really see why they should give the job to him on a silver platter just because he was part of the organisation until now. They need the best carry they can get, hopefully it's Fear, but if it isn't, then it's just sad, not sketchy or unwarranted.

PS: Yesterday, Mason was playing captain's mode game with ppd, zai and RTZ, I don't think there is much bad blood between them.

On August 05 2014 22:48 Diavlo wrote:

How are they sketchy?

On August 09 2014 06:28 shizaep wrote:
Yeah, I'd actually have no problems with it if Fear was back on the roster, as was said earlier. He was supposed to be just temporarily sitting out and then getting back to his spot after TI. That's not the case, however. He's trying out for EG, along with other players. Essentially, he got booted from the team and is fighting for his spot on the roster.

On August 09 2014 08:52 ahswtini wrote:
Didn't ppd or someone say it was 95% decided that Fear was playing for EG?

Probably (slightly) better players than Fear that money can buy but where the fuck is the loyalty?

On August 25 2014 22:39 suxN wrote:
5 more hours and we can see fear back in action!

On August 24 2014 02:42 cheese sandwich wrote:
Happy he is back but I just have a feeling this is going to backfire in 6 months with his injury.

On February 23 2015 04:39 Atoissen wrote:

Im so glad ur feelings were wrong

On March 16 2015 10:24 goody153 wrote:
EDIT: (oops wrong thread .. i posted i ton the EG one)

goddamn it why does fear have eg before his name

On March 16 2015 10:54 OuchyDathurts wrote:


Rofl, you're right, didn't notice I did that to universe and fear's pages. I'll fix it lol.