On May 20 2014 03:58 Steveling wrote: You guys have to keep in mind that it's kinda easy to get where MVP is currently in terms of skill. Now is the hard part, where they have to break through tier2 teams on international stage.
Many teams have reached that level, very, very few have transcended it. I hope they will do it though! <3
Yeah me too. I think I like more the prospect of having a 3rd strong scene than anything else. If SEA becomes a 4th, or integrates with KR or CH, that would also be amazing.
i think one of the best options for SEA for making a real professional scene lies in korea, not china.
Korea has no scene. And the reason that SEA is weak is because their best players leave for China because they virtually all of them are ethnic Chinese and most can speak Chinese.
Korea has money. SEA has no money. Only 3 of SEA's best players play in China at the moment, the rest have returned.
The reason why SEA is weak now is because of many problems: they have no real professional scenes or leagues, it's always very small leagues and tournaments for basically chump change, they have very little scrim time with top pro teams outside of SEA ever since China redid their servers, and for many regions they're stuck between WC3 Dota and Dota2.
The third point can't be fixed, but for the other two points SEA teams can go to Korea and play for money in a focused, professional environment, and still be able to scrim SEA teams and play in SEA events if they wanted to, and with that money they can go to more international events, and actually think about making money off of playing the game instead of scraping by.
It's always hilarious to know that the entire prizepool for SEA between TI3 and TI4 is less than the minimum payout of Season 1 of KDL.
Of course, there are always Korean teams that would not be happy about such things happening because they're trying to make ends meet as well and also because nobody in Korea plays Dota2, but if people want to see skill levels in both SEA/Korea rise faster I believe that the above idea would be the most workable.
Hope to see even crisper and mechanically sound dota from you guys soon. Pretty interesting warlock play.
For everyone doubting if Koreans will take over, only time will tell. They took over LoL in slightly over a year. Now they are winning every international tournament they can get their hands on.
If they ever convert to Dota 2 from LoL completely, it will be a matter of time before they dominate.
On May 26 2014 23:36 halfmanhalfamazing wrote: Hope to see even crisper and mechanically sound dota from you guys soon. Pretty interesting warlock play.
For everyone doubting if Koreans will take over, only time will tell. They took over LoL in slightly over a year. Now they are winning every international tournament they can get their hands on.
If they ever convert to Dota 2 from LoL completely, it will be a matter of time before they dominate.
Well yeah if they convert to Dota 2. Games like these requires a large pub scene to keep top teams full of good talent.
What I do want to know is who MVP is scrimming and practicing against.
I'd rate them as the best team in Korea at this point. They play there own game and they execute it incredibly well and I think all the players are finally getting that team bond going. They've made it to the International play in and I think that people underrate them and their chances. It'll be really cool to see them go up against all the different teams.
Their rise is impressive. From being beat by Zephyr in Korean tournaments to securing 2nd in the SEA qualifiers over a deep field and dominating Zephyr in Korea again. Wow.