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ahswtini
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MVP Phoenix Website twitter FacebookKorean Dota 2 League Season 3Korean Dota 2 League Season 2 Nexon Sponsorship League Season 2 | ||
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teddyoojo
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Steveling
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TripTrip
United Kingdom52 Posts
On May 18 2014 06:46 Steveling wrote: Are they any good? 2nd place in the SEA round robin after Dota 2 being in Korea for just over a year (I think?). That's not half bad if you ask me. | ||
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ahswtini
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On May 18 2014 09:53 teddyoojo wrote: im pretty sure he quoted heyoka lmao ssh nobody saw the On May 1 1337 09:53 Heyoka wrote: that I accidentally left in What is this website? | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
anyhow if anyone else wants to make more player/team threads please do so, the few that staff made were just meant to kickstart things | ||
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TheEmulator
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On May 18 2014 09:08 opterown wrote: wp good job with the bbcode! He told me/HB to make one, then we were like yo wtf you make one. Then he made one. | ||
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Kznn
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ahswtini
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Anyway, looks like I'm only getting 2 hours sleep tonight if I want to get up and watch MVP vs Arrow | ||
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Birdie
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On May 18 2014 10:33 ahswtini wrote: I saw it was only staff making them, and they all had nice banners so I was scare. Anyway, looks like I'm only getting 2 hours sleep tonight if I want to get up and watch MVP vs Arrow it's fine dw feel free to make more haha (and anyone else too) | ||
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GTPGlitch
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Also, QO is a god :D gogo MVPenix to TI4 ^_^ | ||
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Tricks
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DavoS
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On May 18 2014 14:25 DavoS wrote: ForEv is such a good player. He can make some pretty crazy plays work he somehow made a Ghost Scepter + Orge club into a Heart | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
i hope MVP can make the play-ins! | ||
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LimitSEA
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TypeJeeF
Germany6 Posts
All I can say by reading your comments, we are so stunned how awesome you are, that we coloured red in the face. Thank you so much for believing in us and giving us such a huge support, it means a lot to us! Also thank you for every fan page you've done (like this one) yet and for every fan page, fan art and everything else you will do in the future to support us. Feel free to send your MVP art or fan page to us on Facebook or Twitter. You guys are simply awesome! I could read a few comments which were questioning our website. You can see that there is no proper page running yet. Maybe you are wondering why. Well, our homepage is currently in progess, considering that our old website was a little disaster in many ways like design, use and functionality. So I decided to put it more or less offline. But as I mentioned, we are working on it currently. Unfortunately, there is no exact date of the website launch/releasing, because we try to improve a lot of different sections these days. In our eyes, it takes time if you want to create something good which shall be sustainable and qualitative. So I hope you understand it. We love our fans! <3 | ||
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opterown
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Caladbolg
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QO is a fucking beast. ForEv the XBOCT of the Korean scene :D | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On May 19 2014 15:41 amazingxkcd wrote: Tell MVP to work on their song into ravage combo My heart couldn't take it. Not twice... | ||
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TheEmulator
28084 Posts
#KoreanDota | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
YOU KINDA SUCK BUT I LIKE YOU! | ||
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Shecot
18 Posts
i will buy a KDL ticket if u win SEA qualifier :D | ||
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
Seriously where is my ability to select an MVP icon for favorite team on this site?... Get on that TeamLiquid  | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On May 19 2014 16:45 Kashll wrote: MVP hwaiting! Seriously where is my ability to select an MVP icon for favorite team on this site?... Get on that TeamLiquid in your profile settings, you can set it there | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
On May 19 2014 17:21 amazingxkcd wrote: in your profile settings, you can set it there There is no MVP icon (for now, at least). | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On May 19 2014 17:55 ReignSupreme. wrote: There is no MVP icon (for now, at least). huh, strange, i'm pretty MVP was in our list | ||
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TypeJeeF
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Defessus
United States164 Posts
On May 19 2014 20:32 TypeJeeF wrote: I want to thank everyone of you, who was and is still supporting us, from our whole team. It really gave us the motivation to go stronger and stronger. Looking forward to Seattle to deliver some great perfomences! Never stop learning or your passion! MVP fighting! | ||
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Kuroeeah
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Valhalla44
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
On May 19 2014 20:55 Kuroeeah wrote: I wonder how ironic it would be for DeMoN to lose his wildcard spot by losing to MVP. The beauty of DotA That would be so awesome. Always loved koreans in sc2 cuse of their hardwork, so I am cheering for MVP in wildcard matches. | ||
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haduken
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On May 19 2014 21:15 haduken wrote: On one hand I want Korea to do well... on other hand I'm afraid they will dominate and kill the scene I don't think this is going to happen, not for a long time at least! | ||
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yyfpulls
United States2185 Posts
And what did MVP do so right that Zephyr didn't? Was it the Korean practice regime? | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On May 19 2014 20:55 Kuroeeah wrote: I wonder how ironic it would be for DeMoN to lose his wildcard spot by losing to MVP. The beauty of DotA tbh i dont see either of them making it^^ but its so huge for them to go to ti4 i imagine, sick for them | ||
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Machz
Costa Rica174 Posts
On May 20 2014 00:28 yyfpulls wrote: When people said Koreans win TI5 I laughed it off but now the fear of Korean invasion is real, very real. And what did MVP do so right that Zephyr didn't? Was it the Korean practice regime? StarLadder | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On May 20 2014 00:28 yyfpulls wrote: When people said Koreans win TI5 I laughed it off but now the fear of Korean invasion is real, very real. And what did MVP do so right that Zephyr didn't? Was it the Korean practice regime? its just mainly that zephyr doesnt really have good players | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On May 20 2014 00:28 yyfpulls wrote: When people said Koreans win TI5 I laughed it off but now the fear of Korean invasion is real, very real. And what did MVP do so right that Zephyr didn't? Was it the Korean practice regime? Not to burst anyone's bubble, but no. They look like a mid-high skilled team that's it. It'll be a good learning experience for them. Their entire game needs a lot of work and they don't do anything outstanding. Their score line against Arrow Gaming is all you need to know. They do have stability going for them though and that's very important as traditional powerhouse teams have shown and what the roster upheaval has shown more recently in China. | ||
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theqat
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TypeJeeF
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ApproximateKnowledge
United States76 Posts
On May 20 2014 00:28 yyfpulls wrote: When people said Koreans win TI5 I laughed it off but now the fear of Korean invasion is real, very real. And what did MVP do so right that Zephyr didn't? Was it the Korean practice regime? Yeah, I'm still not buying this 'Korean invasion' narrative. MVP has improved a lot and surprised people in the qualifiers, but only because they performed so poorly in past. I'd say that they're still significantly worse than tier 2 teams in the west nevermind the tier 2 teams in China. Honestly, people are riding this 'Koreans are superior gamers' idea way too hard. If MVP were a South American team, I highly doubt its performance would convince people that South America was about to take over the world of Dota. | ||
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ApproximateKnowledge
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Machz
Costa Rica174 Posts
On May 20 2014 02:29 ApproximateKnowledge wrote: Yeah, I'm still not buying this 'Korean invasion' narrative. MVP has improved a lot and surprised people in the qualifiers, but only because they performed so poorly in past. I'd say that they're still significantly worse than tier 2 teams in the west nevermind the tier 2 teams in China. Honestly, people are riding this 'Koreans are superior gamers' idea way too hard. If MVP were a South American team, I highly doubt its performance would convince people that South America was about to take over the world of Dota. Except for the very few, I think nobody actually believes in the Korean Invasion yet. The Hype right now comes not from their current skill or game, but their fast improvement in a relatively small amount of time. This a very big achievement for KR Dota, SEA has incredibly skilled players. KR had nothing a year ago. | ||
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Steveling
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Now is the hard part, where they have to break through tier2 teams on international stage. Many teams have reached that level, very, very few have transcended it. I hope they will do it though! <3 | ||
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Valhalla44
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On May 20 2014 03:58 Steveling wrote: You guys have to keep in mind that it's kinda easy to get where MVP is currently in terms of skill. Now is the hard part, where they have to break through tier2 teams on international stage. Many teams have reached that level, very, very few have transcended it. I hope they will do it though! <3 Sure ezpz lemon squeezy. U sure love 2 bash koreans . | ||
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Machz
Costa Rica174 Posts
On May 20 2014 03:58 Steveling wrote: You guys have to keep in mind that it's kinda easy to get where MVP is currently in terms of skill. Now is the hard part, where they have to break through tier2 teams on international stage. Many teams have reached that level, very, very few have transcended it. I hope they will do it though! <3 Yeah me too. I think I like more the prospect of having a 3rd strong scene than anything else. If SEA becomes a 4th, or integrates with KR or CH, that would also be amazing. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
They're pretty much only team I watch with some semblance of care still, so heres to improvement. | ||
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rebdomine
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On May 20 2014 02:29 ApproximateKnowledge wrote: Yeah, I'm still not buying this 'Korean invasion' narrative. MVP has improved a lot and surprised people in the qualifiers, but only because they performed so poorly in past. I'd say that they're still significantly worse than tier 2 teams in the west nevermind the tier 2 teams in China. Honestly, people are riding this 'Koreans are superior gamers' idea way too hard. If MVP were a South American team, I highly doubt its performance would convince people that South America was about to take over the world of Dota. I think it's mostly BW fans who grew up to be Dota 2 fans who really want to see the Koreans succeed. It sort of makes my seeing Dota 2 as the spiritual successor of BW seem right if Korea is dominating this game too. I dunno how other people feel, but this is how I see things. Hopefully we can keep seeing MVP improve, and hopefully along with them, some other Korean teams emerge too! | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On May 20 2014 04:48 Machz wrote: Yeah me too. I think I like more the prospect of having a 3rd strong scene than anything else. If SEA becomes a 4th, or integrates with KR or CH, that would also be amazing. i think one of the best options for SEA for making a real professional scene lies in korea, not china. | ||
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ApproximateKnowledge
United States76 Posts
On May 20 2014 15:37 rabidch wrote: i think one of the best options for SEA for making a real professional scene lies in korea, not china. Korea has no scene. And the reason that SEA is weak is because their best players leave for China because they virtually all of them are ethnic Chinese and most can speak Chinese. | ||
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ShootAnonymous
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On May 20 2014 04:48 Machz wrote: Yeah me too. I think I like more the prospect of having a 3rd strong scene than anything else. If SEA becomes a 4th, or integrates with KR or CH, that would also be amazing. SEA is already 'integrated' with CH. Tier 1 SEA players going to CH, Tier 2 CH teams competing in SEA online tournaments and Tier 1 SEA competing in CH LANs. | ||
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The Cheat
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Now he may legitimately be called by far the best support player in Korea. R-Nim fighting! | ||
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ahswtini
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The Cheat
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On May 20 2014 20:13 ahswtini wrote: Did they change the lift-cliff interaction? I swear many of those lifts aren't possible anymore. I think they patched it basically around the time that video came out, but there was a time where you could still cliff people by clicking past the cliff. | ||
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opterown
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yyfpulls
United States2185 Posts
On May 20 2014 02:29 ApproximateKnowledge wrote: Yeah, I'm still not buying this 'Korean invasion' narrative. MVP has improved a lot and surprised people in the qualifiers, but only because they performed so poorly in past. I'd say that they're still significantly worse than tier 2 teams in the west nevermind the tier 2 teams in China. Honestly, people are riding this 'Koreans are superior gamers' idea way too hard. If MVP were a South American team, I highly doubt its performance would convince people that South America was about to take over the world of Dota. Well I didn't really mean that Korea would start completely dominating every region. I don't see that happening if ever. I don't buy into the whole Korean eSports supremacy either though they do have the top infrastructure. But MVP landing 2nd in the qualifiers is something no one expected. That they beat out established SEA teams is quite the feat considering how people were making fun of "Korean doto" 6 months ago. | ||
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opterown
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zzdd
United States484 Posts
On May 20 2014 09:58 rebdomine wrote: I think it's mostly BW fans who grew up to be Dota 2 fans who really want to see the Koreans succeed. It sort of makes my seeing Dota 2 as the spiritual successor of BW seem right if Korea is dominating this game too. I dunno how other people feel, but this is how I see things. Hopefully we can keep seeing MVP improve, and hopefully along with them, some other Korean teams emerge too! I personally like them because of when Demon was in Korea and he was streaming. Made me a fan of Reisen and the team. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On May 22 2014 18:04 TypeJeeF wrote: WARNING! Be aware, it's a fake: https://www.facebook.com/pages/MVP-Phoenix/525527544223932?fref=ts wait, is that page a fake? | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
http://facebook.com/MVPSC2 | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On May 20 2014 15:53 ApproximateKnowledge wrote: Korea has no scene. And the reason that SEA is weak is because their best players leave for China because they virtually all of them are ethnic Chinese and most can speak Chinese. Korea has money. SEA has no money. Only 3 of SEA's best players play in China at the moment, the rest have returned. The reason why SEA is weak now is because of many problems: they have no real professional scenes or leagues, it's always very small leagues and tournaments for basically chump change, they have very little scrim time with top pro teams outside of SEA ever since China redid their servers, and for many regions they're stuck between WC3 Dota and Dota2. The third point can't be fixed, but for the other two points SEA teams can go to Korea and play for money in a focused, professional environment, and still be able to scrim SEA teams and play in SEA events if they wanted to, and with that money they can go to more international events, and actually think about making money off of playing the game instead of scraping by. It's always hilarious to know that the entire prizepool for SEA between TI3 and TI4 is less than the minimum payout of Season 1 of KDL. Of course, there are always Korean teams that would not be happy about such things happening because they're trying to make ends meet as well and also because nobody in Korea plays Dota2, but if people want to see skill levels in both SEA/Korea rise faster I believe that the above idea would be the most workable. | ||
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halfmanhalfamazing
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Pretty interesting warlock play. For everyone doubting if Koreans will take over, only time will tell. They took over LoL in slightly over a year. Now they are winning every international tournament they can get their hands on. If they ever convert to Dota 2 from LoL completely, it will be a matter of time before they dominate. | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
On May 26 2014 23:36 halfmanhalfamazing wrote: Hope to see even crisper and mechanically sound dota from you guys soon. Pretty interesting warlock play. For everyone doubting if Koreans will take over, only time will tell. They took over LoL in slightly over a year. Now they are winning every international tournament they can get their hands on. If they ever convert to Dota 2 from LoL completely, it will be a matter of time before they dominate. Well yeah if they convert to Dota 2. Games like these requires a large pub scene to keep top teams full of good talent. What I do want to know is who MVP is scrimming and practicing against. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
they'll be playing in the good play sea invitational! | ||
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ahswtini
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Defessus
United States164 Posts
7K to the bank! | ||
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opterown
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MVP played titan in a showmatch casted by spotv + Show Spoiler + they lost 2-0 | ||
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opterown
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some pics MVP are playing in some showmatches against chinese teams tongfu and LGD today/tomorrow! | ||
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opterown
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interview with forev | ||
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opterown
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Monv18hao
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For those of you who can't access youku, or prefer text, it's in the spoilers below + Show Spoiler + March: After this game, I'm really proud that we're representing Korea right now. I know that a lot of people, you know, look down on the Korean Dota scene, and then we are able to show this kind of performance, I'm just very happy and I'm very proud of my teammates and my team. Interviewer: Have you guys studied VP's draft (playstyle) before? March: They didn't play much games, but we did look at every single one of their replays and kinda knew what they were gonna do. Then last game they picked four heroes, and they picked drow ranger with it last time, so we just banned the drow ranger that they use, and that's it. Interviewer: Which team do you think will win, Liquid or CIS in the next series? March: I don't know who's gonna win, I have to see. It's hard to tell, but we play a lot of Chinese teams, and we'd rather play teams that are European or American that don't know much about the Chinese style, because our style is kind of similar - it's built off of Chinese style because we were there studying Chinese plays and we tried to adopt it into our style. So, it's basically off of Chinese style. Yeah, so they (Chinese teams) would understand our style more than other teams. So we would rather play Liquid. Interviewer: I heard you guys were practicing a lot with DK recently? March: Yeah Interviewer: Have you learned a lot from that practice? March: Uh...yes. We learned a lot from DK's practice and...I don't know, I don't want to tell anything about it cuz...it's a secret right? Interviewer: We all know that Koreans are very good at LOL and SC2, is Dota now a mainstream game or is it still a small game? March: It is still a small game but it is growing rapidly. Interviewer: So what do you think is the future development of Dota in the Korean scene? March: I think it depends on how well we do at the International (laughs) March: MVP fighting! | ||
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Laserist
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Btw, against VP I was about to cry after seeing how good Heen is. Well done boys, well done. | ||
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ymir233
United States8275 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19343 Posts
On September 08 2014 22:35 R1CH wrote: We're working on refreshing these soon! | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
:D Gogo mvp! | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=320273133 | ||
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On October 02 2014 01:31 ahswtini wrote: MVP courier in the workshop http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=320273133 Just... no. That skateboard o.O | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3329 Posts
On December 19 2014 02:46 PhoenixVoid wrote: MVP Phoenix are the StarLadder XI SEA champions! PhoenixVoid how fitting glad they're back at SL. Only caught the end of game 5 was it a good series? | ||
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goody153
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On December 20 2014 22:52 molecu wrote: The Korean overlords are finally here. KR > CN | ||
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icystorage
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greebosnabble
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On January 15 2015 17:20 icystorage wrote: Anybody else thinks MVP.P should get a direct invite? Definitely not. They have not placed in the top3 at any international event. | ||
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Beirut
United States673 Posts
On January 15 2015 17:20 icystorage wrote: Anybody else thinks MVP.P should get a direct invite? Definitely not, especially if they have an early exit from this Starladder. There are still four months to go though I suppose. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On January 16 2015 00:43 Beirut wrote: Definitely not, especially if they have an early exit from this Starladder. There are still four months to go though I suppose. Shouldn't really matter. NA has gotten a direct invite even when their teams were lackluster, and MVP.P doesn't look bad compared to teams like 2013 Liquid and Dignitas. | ||
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greebosnabble
255 Posts
On January 16 2015 04:11 WolfintheSheep wrote: Shouldn't really matter. NA has gotten a direct invite even when their teams were lackluster, and MVP.P doesn't look bad compared to teams like 2013 Liquid and Dignitas. 2013 Liquid and Dignitas both got multiple top 3 finishes in international premier events (admittedly online, but there weren't as many lans back then). MVP's only decent international result is 4th at i-league where they only beat NiP (they got a bye in the loser's bracket due to Big God dropping out). | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On January 16 2015 04:48 greebosnabble wrote: 2013 Liquid and Dignitas both got multiple top 3 finishes in international premier events (admittedly online, but there weren't as many lans back then). MVP's only decent international result is 4th at i-league where they only beat NiP (they got a bye in the loser's bracket due to Big God dropping out). In 2013 "international" meant NA and Europe. In 2015 "international" means every single region. | ||
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8dada8
Canada9 Posts
'Thanks god after all we play one game better than Koreans, so shall this superiority last forever!' Looking forward to see MVP surprise at least 2 Chinese team on DAC | ||
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goody153
44064 Posts
On January 19 2015 15:26 8dada8 wrote: MVP is underrated so much in China, due to China digital sports 'anti-Korea' atmosphere. 'Thanks god after all we play one game better than Koreans, so shall this superiority last forever!' Looking forward to see MVP surprise at least 2 Chinese team on DAC lets be real they ain't beating the strongest teams in the west(Secret/EG probably) and/or the top dogs of china(LGD/newbee/VG) .. it's just highly unlikely anyways it's step on the right direction for our KOREAN OVERLORDS ! | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
Just watched this interview. Felt kinda sad. I thought that MVP didn't play that badly this tournament despite going 1-14. They showed promise, but also showed inexperience or poor decision makings that cost them games. It's not like they were outclassed. I hope they continue improving in the months to come! | ||
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ThirstyFish
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
Instead of one top tier team with Forev, QO, March, Jerax and Heen you guys have two middling teams with uninspiring play from MP and Sunbie instead of QO and March. Your lack of cooperation is robbing Korea of a better showing in TI. hot6 better step it up ALOT for you. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
I'm a QO fan, but he and MP are easily the best mids in Korea. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On July 27 2015 05:12 Kuroeeah wrote: MP is a really talented player, what's your issue. What issue are you talking about? You must have a reading malfunction. MP is nowhere near the play that QO is at mid. | ||
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don_kyuhote
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On July 27 2015 10:56 MaCRo.gg wrote: What issue are you talking about? You must have a reading malfunction. MP is nowhere near the play that QO is at mid. Aren't you a charming one. So happy for MVP.P, I love their brand of dota. | ||
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Evander Berry Wall
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If you know, if MVP is going to have 2 teams this good, they really ought to get them different logos. | ||
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DucK-
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On July 28 2015 02:29 FFGenerations wrote: clearly everyone thought that black hole was cancelled by the naga net, how come it wasnt cancelled? He had refresher in stash. | ||
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NIJ
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They can choose Hot6 or Newbee for their main event opponent. Picking a brethren team sounds stupid at first, but then again it gurantees that your organization makes 9-12th. If they go at it each other.Thats a difference of 150k prize for no work at all. And its not just about gaming the system for money either. Strategically speaking they're familiar with Hot6 more. Which may or may not be a good thing for them. And then again perhaps they want to win themselves at not necessarily care about whats best organization wise. Or they can believe in themselves and try to both do it instead, making guaranteed placement settling for less than what they think they can both accomplish. Either way, game is bo1 for both of them so anything can happen. | ||
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don_kyuhote
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On July 31 2015 11:29 NIJ wrote: MVP.P is in an interesting dilemma. They can choose Hot6 or Newbee for their main event opponent. Picking a brethren team sounds stupid at first, but then again it gurantees that your organization makes 9-12th. If they go at it each other.Thats a difference of 150k prize for no work at all. And its not just about gaming the system for money either. Strategically speaking they're familiar with Hot6 more. Which may or may not be a good thing for them. And then again perhaps they want to win themselves at not necessarily care about whats best organization wise. Or they can believe in themselves and try to both do it instead, making guaranteed placement settling for less than what they think they can both accomplish. Either way, game is bo1 for both of them so anything can happen. Picked the harder team and still moved on. Nice! | ||
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RandyL
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my god i am actually so happy for korean doto and mvp this is crazy, go march, go QO GOD! | ||
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the bear jew
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Awesome plays. | ||
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Showing the world the power of Korean DotA!!! | ||
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QO the Critgod. | ||
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miicah
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On August 08 2014 09:33 miicah wrote: Getting on the Korean hype train early, hope these guys stay together and get a real slot next year. Yeah buddy, knew they would only get better :D | ||
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the bear jew
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On August 06 2015 11:22 Locke- wrote: I believe in MVP taking out VP! You mean VG for Vici Gaming. | ||
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On August 06 2015 16:19 DucK- wrote: Thing about MVP is that if March gets shut down and they don't stomp early game, they always are not able to make a comeback. They're so tempo heavy, which strong teams can exploit. uhhh.....MVP vs Empire game 1? | ||
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Ireland481 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.liquiddota.com/staff/opterown/ti5day1/TI5_Day_1-19.jpg) Is Nutz not the most badass player in TI? Tell me I'm wrong. | ||
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the bear jew
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On August 07 2015 04:59 PhoenixVoid wrote: Korean overlords do fall but nothing to be ashamed of, they surpassed every expectation and placed top 8 against the best Dota can offer. March can retire knowing he finally played at TI and reached a solid result. Yeah was a great result. | ||
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QO counts as another Dota retirement. | ||
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edit: i cant even edit the op with the new roster | ||
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and that ryOyr still has to play for MSI Evo as they are currently playing for MPGL and that 2 of the players already left and rule says that they need to keep atleast 3 of the original roster | ||
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DucK-
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1. QO 2. MP 3. March 4. Febby 5. Been Probably a short term lineup just for majors. | ||
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On August 29 2015 05:59 Asjo wrote: I don't think losing NutZ is terrible for the team, but losing Kpii is quite a blow. He impressed me in the wildcard qualifier and some of the TI matches. But they got MP, who seemed to be the best player on HOT6ix after Forev, so it's a decent consolidation. I really want to see more from MVP. Their results at TI might not have been convincing, but a lot of the time their play was really good. Both Korean teams feel through in a few really bad situations, but put up a good fight the rest of the time. Definitely some potential in that - would be particularly cool if they could steal away some talent from the LoL scene. Kpii and impressed??? I can't remember how many times I face palmed when watching him play, especially naga. Anyway the current lineup is as close to a dream team as you can get. Problem is that I don't think MP and QO should be in the same team because of conflicting roles. Also lacking forev. | ||
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On August 29 2015 08:16 DucK- wrote: Kpii and impressed??? I can't remember how many times I face palmed when watching him play, especially naga. Anyway the current lineup is as close to a dream team as you can get. Problem is that I don't think MP and QO should be in the same team because of conflicting roles. Also lacking forev. Well, I didn't rewatch all the matches before making that comment, but I just remember him for several clutch moments. Might have had his share of misplays as well. Yeah, MP and QO came off very similar when I was watching the two MVP teams. Will be interesting to see what they make of it. | ||
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On August 29 2015 09:03 Asjo wrote: Well, I didn't rewatch all the matches before making that comment, but I just remember him for several clutch moments. Might have had his share of misplays as well. Yeah, MP and QO came off very similar when I was watching the two MVP teams. Will be interesting to see what they make of it. I am yet to watch the last 20% of matches for TI5, but I just watch MVP.Phoenix vs iG, and I have to say that your general sentiment about kpii was quite fitting in game one. At least it was hard to recognize him. So many bad decisions in that match. | ||
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On September 02 2015 18:39 herokiller_ wrote: didn't March say he was going to retire after TI5? he has time to play one or two majors before his military service | ||
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I almost thought that MVP was looking at another stable period with good results. Result-wise, they did quite well at Game Show Global eSports Cup with an improvised line-up. And they seemed to be beating the best SEA teams again. However, once again, they have become very unreliable, and just don't seem like a convincing well-rounded team the way their TI5 line-up did. I have only watched a few games of their recently, and the players seemed to play alright individually, but the team's play seemed to lack intelligence and purpose. Because of this, they only looking good when they were playing at a comfortable lead or when they were taking small skirmishes and not being pushed or pressured. Since I couldn't watch all the matches, I was reading up on what other people said, and what I notice it that people keep pointing out the countless mistakes MVP make. So, this leaves me quite curious of how they will do at Shanghai Major. I fear that I might look too much into these online matches and perhaps underestimate the other SEA teams. I might be blindly ruling out a good LAN-performance from MVP. What do you guys think? Is MVP a strong team at the moment? Do they lack a good captain? How do you rate DuBu? I haven't watched him play much. | ||
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the bear jew
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On February 25 2016 07:46 Birdie wrote: MP got 8k And MVP got game 1. :D | ||
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ahswtini
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hunter_x
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On February 25 2016 21:58 DucK- wrote: Kinda gifted 4 games with how their opponents drafted. lol, yeah sure. plz stop making excuses for ehome and secret. mvp outplayed them both... | ||
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On February 26 2016 01:57 hunter_x wrote: lol, yeah sure. plz stop making excuses for ehome and secret. mvp outplayed them both... You have to acknowledge that it's hard to just draw that conclusion at face value. No one expected that to happen going into this tournament. Moreover I don't think an outdraft necessarily takes anything away from MVP at all. Its a part of the game like everything that happens post draft. Finally, you have to acknowledge that EHOME's draft was... let's call it unorthodox in both games. Sure, MVP's was as well to an extent, but again, it's really hard to accept at face value that a draft that included Lifestealer, Phoenix, etc. didn't have anything to do with EHOME's loss. Similarly, I think Secret got completely blown away by that safelane Lesh maxing edict - that was pretty nuts, but EXTREMELY effective against the SB that was guaranteed to be out of lane more often than not, especially combined with the NP. I actually thought that Secret outplayed MVP midway through game 2, but were just too far behind by the extremely fast push for it to make a difference. By the time they started turning around the MVP push, they were like 7k gold behind due to losing most of their outer towers. | ||
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On February 26 2016 01:57 hunter_x wrote: lol, yeah sure. plz stop making excuses for ehome and secret. mvp outplayed them both... I'm not making excuses for the losers. I'm just stating facts. Those were terrible drafts by Ehome and Secret. I know how good MVP is. As I have mentioned a few posts above, MVP is more than capable of taking down any team when they can play their game. So don't take it that I'm being biased or negative because I'm just being objective. | ||
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On February 26 2016 02:37 DucK- wrote: I'm not making excuses for the losers. I'm just stating facts. Those were terrible drafts by Ehome and Secret. I know how good MVP is. As I have mentioned a few posts above, MVP is more than capable of taking down any team when they can play their game. So don't take it that I'm being biased or negative because I'm just being objective. then make you argument more clear. when you write it like that, it sounds more like mvp only won because of the draft. | ||
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QO made 8k on China servers btw. Hope MVP gives their best against LGD today. | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On March 02 2016 04:08 PhoenixVoid wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB7UjU5Rucg QO made 8k on China servers btw. Hope MVP gives their best against LGD today. I knew having all Korean speaking players was very helpful :D. I love Jerax, Nutz but having that small language barrier isn't easy to overcome on that level. I heard that the original hot6/Phoenix split was due to different opinions about how the games should be played. Forev, MP, and QO are all the top mechanically gifted cores in Korea, I bet it is not easy to keep all those players happy. Despite March and Heen being amazing players and great teammates, Forev and Dubu improves the team's skill level significantly. I've been waiting for the day that they combined all the talent and put aside their egos. Keep working hard guys I know you guys can reach tier 1 status. | ||
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lol apparently LGD's manager overheard QO talk privately with an ex-Rave player in an elevator and claims he heard QO say, "Tomorrow LGD easy game" which got the Chinese community all upset and salty. | ||
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SO MUCH PRACTICE WOW | ||
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VvvV1251
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While in game 1 LGD draft was weak, in game 2, MVP outplayed LGD plan and simple. Ps: sorry for bad english. | ||
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On March 02 2016 18:38 Birdie wrote: sick interview, really cool SO MUCH PRACTICE WOW Didnt see interviews, what was said about practice?? | ||
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adzzlie
Korea (South)81 Posts
Actually, it is not LGD who is bad, it is just MVP currently who is 'rekt'ing everyone. As long as the captains at Shanghai fails to find a weakness in either MVP's draft or their laning strats, unless MVP throws (which I don't think is very much possible), MVP will be the winner in this 2nd major. | ||
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On March 02 2016 22:55 Atoissen wrote: Didnt see interviews, what was said about practice?? Apparently they practiced 15 hours a day for the two months coming up to the Major | ||
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DucK-
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On February 22 2016 06:10 DucK- wrote: It's always the same imo. When they get their comfort drafts, they can roll over any team with their aggression. But this same aggression is what loses them games as well. They play without intelligence, just sheer brute force. Exactly what I meant. | ||
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adzzlie
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On March 05 2016 15:36 PhoenixVoid wrote: Best in SEA boys. MVP diversified a bit with the Spectre pick so that's a good sign. EG's a real tough uphill battle but I know they'll give it their best. This might actually mean MVP is the best Asian team lel. MVP has already prove their worth in this Major by defeating a lot of top tier teams, and even though I actually resent Secret's 2nd position in the group due to losing to MVP, the next team that I am supporting is MVP. Feeling proud of them since they are a team that managed to raise SEA (or at least Korea)'s worth in the international scene. | ||
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Looking forward for their next games, enjoyable team to watch. | ||
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On March 06 2016 00:01 DucK- wrote: Looks like mvp started playing with fear and hesitation in the bracket stages. They didn't look as comfortable and free. isnt that all of their decent tourney runs? they look almost unstoppable early and then burn out once it starts slimming down to only t1 teams its almost like what ice3 said about vg, they start strong and end weak always | ||
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MVP's first round opponent is OG. I think they have a decent shot at winning it 2-1, I wasn't too convinced with OG's performance in Shanghai. If they do win against OG, VP or coL is their next opponent, and I would think MVP is slightly favoured against them. A finals appearance wouldn't be too surprising here, they did get a bracket without Secret or EG so lucked out there. | ||
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On March 14 2016 06:31 PhoenixVoid wrote: MVP's first round opponent is OG. I think they have a decent shot at winning it 2-1 They did it boys | ||
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On March 20 2016 04:12 DucK- wrote: I still have yet to see mvp win games from behind. That's my concern. Either they stomp or they get stomped. There we have it! Wanna see more of such composure in close games! | ||
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Purge made a big Reddit post talking about how you should stop trying to make Korea happen because it just isn't going to happen. The short version is that everyone plays at cyber cafes that have deals with Riot where players can unlock all of LOL's characters for free (so long as they're playing at the cyber cafe,) so for most Koreans LOL looks like Dota All Pick in terms of the variety. The whole pay to unlock scheme was abandoned in order to monopolize the region. I think Korea's server was even shut down? MVP is an awesome team, but if they win it probably means more for SEA Dota on the whole than Korea specifically. | ||
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On March 05 2016 15:43 VvvV1251 wrote: Well played from both teams, congrats to MVP for top 4, but i don't see them winning vs EG, fear alone has more exp at top level than the whole MVP team. Took them about two weeks. :b | ||
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On March 21 2016 07:18 Saechiis wrote: Overrated. If you mean by EG sure :^) | ||
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On March 21 2016 08:54 the bear jew wrote: Well MVP secured their invite to Manilla. Congrats on Dotapit victory they got top 4 at shanghai, they were gonna get an invite anyways | ||
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On March 22 2016 05:30 KOFgokuon wrote: they got top 4 at shanghai, they were gonna get an invite anyways I remember it was said unofficial top 4 got an invite, if they flamed out in a bunch of subsequent tournaments, they might of not gotten one due to lack of other placings. This totally secured it, it was a very well played tournament from them. Look forward to see them in action in future. | ||
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On March 22 2016 11:38 sc14s wrote: OP needs to update the first post X_X OP needs to remove Treant protector as their avatar. When I think of MVP it's never Rooftrellan. Warlock, Leshrac and Bristleback are more fitting. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
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Invited to the next StarLadder along with Alliance, LGD and Vici. | ||
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KOFgokuon
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On March 22 2016 15:52 mutantmagnet wrote: OP needs to remove Treant protector as their avatar. When I think of MVP it's never Rooftrellan. Warlock, Leshrac and Bristleback are more fitting. they haven't played warlock in months, bristle is definitely their iconic hero that separates them from other teams | ||
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Fun interview with the MVP boys bar Febby. Important plan in their near future is going to Singapore on the 25th so they get better ping for Epicenter and ESL Manila qualifiers. | ||
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On March 25 2016 01:39 PhoenixVoid wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/4brf6k/interview_with_mvp_phoenix_about_ti5_shuffles/ Fun interview with the MVP boys bar Febby. Important plan in their near future is going to Singapore on the 25th so they get better ping for Epicenter and ESL Manila qualifiers. Really good interview. Thanks for sharing | ||
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On March 22 2016 15:52 mutantmagnet wrote: OP needs to remove Treant protector as their avatar. When I think of MVP it's never Rooftrellan. Warlock, Leshrac and Bristleback are more fitting. They used to play Treant a lot back during the KDL days. I think it was around S2/3. Them and Rave were the ones to popularize it in the SEA region. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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On April 04 2016 16:31 Squiderino wrote: they overhyped or what.. well maybe fnatic is too strong MVP.P was on a hot streak at Shanghai and especially at DotaPit. But "hot streaks" in Dota2 don't last. That difference, though, is generally what it takes to win a LAN. But the "hot streak" is over and they've regressed closer to where they should be: a lower T1 team that's scary if you're not prepared. Fnatic is currently on their own hot streak, but it helps to beat up on SEA teams. | ||
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On May 02 2016 15:09 njt7 wrote: Look how far theyve come! Gj gz. I really like to see MentalProtector doing so well. A treat to watch It is amazing to see them find success. TI6 Champions baby. MP back at mid is controlling the tempo and QO carrying fits their roles much better. It is also nice that they have few pocket strats like PL mid to do some mind games. Febby has been playing incredible and Dubu has done a nice job as the drafter. BUT I think the biggest improvement is with Forev getting comfortable with the 3, he has put up some really stable performances on the offlane despite getting in some tricky situations. | ||
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QO, whose stock rose steadily (despite his penchant for flashy plays that have gotten him killed on occasion) since Shanghai after posting mammoth KDAs (easily the best among carries at the event), is usually boisterous when talking about all things Dota 2. But for our interview, he was equal parts smiling yet contemplative about their loss to LGD. “We’re good at facing the Chinese teams. Everyone keeps saying that they have very good high ground defense but it’s a style that were good at breaking,” shared QO. “They usually like to punish slow pushes and sieges but our push style has never been slow; we love to dive behind the tower and kill defenders. Chinese teams have a lot of stationary and positioning reliant heroes and those are easy targets.” “If we can beat Liquid, then we can win the entire tournament,” said QO, complete with a cunning smile. “They are really good right now but if we beat them at the Winner’s bracket, we can beat anyone. We do really well with momentum.” http://esports.inquirer.net/15480/qo-can-beat-liquid-can-entire-tournament | ||
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On June 05 2016 03:11 HighTimeDotA wrote: young talented teams like mvp needs to learn discipline before they will be a true top tier team (a good coach would help alot). lgd threw the early game by diving t1 and gave mvp a stupidly big lead but mvp rushed the mid highground and got cocky cuz they already had top down. Well at least they win games; ) edit: lol maybe i jinxed my own team with this Post. Never mind, great plays from mvp. They are really impresive right now. | ||
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OG will be tough indeed but thats what they said about Liquid. Cant wait for more MVP magic! | ||
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On June 05 2016 14:12 CuSToM wrote: did they say in maybe an interview or something what the idea with the helm of the dominators was about? Its basically everyone gets a HoD and dominates a mega creep every 60 seconds, then put helm back at stack or fountain. | ||
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ez 50k | ||
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Meanwhile, of course, they were able to win by forcing fights on their term and through excellently coordinated aggression. It seems like MVP were much more focused on maximizing their damage and leaving no enemies alive, whereas EG were much more defensively minded, wanting to escape the fight with a few pick-offs and no deaths. I guess this explains why we cannot trust MVP to finish on top of tournaments all the time. They need their aggressive momentum to take roots and won't do as well if people are able to anticipate their play despite its unpredictable nature. Oh well, maybe I should watch a few more of their recent tournaments before drawing any conclusions. I guess I just wanted to add .. I think I understand now | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
The MVP.P vs EG Finals though, aside from blowing up the scene as a result, also set off a trend that we've been seeing the response to ever since. At multiple points, EG thought they were able to disengage with either a draw or minor team-fight victory, but MVP.P's super aggressive reengaging couldn't be punished. This turned fights that should have been 0-1 or 0-2 losses into 3-1 or 4-2-type victories. While the Meta helped for that (with a whole lot of sustain-based strategies), what everyone started to do was massively over teleport in. 3-man ganks at T1s now see the entire other team teleporting in. MVP.P is always a great watch, but unless the meta breaks there way, they're fighting for 5th/6th. The top-teams can play the balanced approach that terribly punishes the way they play. Though even them getting beaten is normally entertaining. They'll keep throwing bodies at fights, even when they've pretty clearly lost. Though they also managed to turn around some all-but-lost games, as well. | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
if you want to see them losing in more recent games, they were diffused by LGD twice, and beaten soundly by OG at manila major. aside from that, they haven't played many officials so it's really hard to say where they're at. i watch their pubs and they play quite a bit on occaision. pubs are very different for these kinds of players but you start to notice little decision making things and mechanical mistakes. also, heroes, nuances, etc. Forev for example is pretty different from most offlaners. he's pretty solid, plays a lot with his teammates, very concise. will not farm if there are kills on the map. QO makes heavy commitments as well as unique ganks with his heroes, even including naga siren which he plays quite often. you have to watch it to believe it, but all of their players are so quick on their decisions and seemingly try not to let a kill opportunity ever slip. live and die by the sword. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32739 Posts
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bourne117
United States837 Posts
On August 06 2016 22:12 PhoenixVoid wrote: OG in upper bracket again welp. Unless they improved their game against them I'm not so sure an upper bracket run is happening. But I do think MVP can do well in lower bracket as long as they have composure in the first game, which is where they struggled with in group stages. I have faith. People can say OG has them figured out or something but it was 2 games and MVP looked uncharacteristically sloppy. Like they were just missing plays that MVP normally thrives on making. Plus MVP has in the past come back against opponents who people have said "figured out their style". People were saying liquid and eg figured them out at shanghai. Since them they have gone 3-1 or better against the same teams. If mvp show up og should be very worried imo because when mvp plays their best I don't think any team can beat them. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Birdie
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PhoenixVoid
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
Also why you knock OG into the lower bracket where my team if they get their heads out of their asses will have to face them. GG WP our new Korean Overlords on your victory. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
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tehplank
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
Man I'm so excited. It's like watching the face rush 2006 AC milan come out and destroy every single park the bus or counter attack teams of the present time. | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
Korean kids starting to play Dota instead of lol, because they want to become a millionaire too, would be the best thing that could happen to Dota. Besides that, MPV plays out of their mind, so much action, such good teamwork, love watching them. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
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wims80
1892 Posts
On August 09 2016 16:28 Zandar wrote: I really hope MVP wins. Korean kids starting to play Dota instead of lol, because they want to become a millionaire too, would be the best thing that could happen to Dota. .... That's not going to happen I don't think, Dota has failed in spectacular fashion in South Korea | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Hoping for some all out full-retard amazing Dota series | ||
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wims80
1892 Posts
On August 09 2016 21:37 MaCRo.gg wrote: Korea should just make a CSGO team and just take all Valve's money. They should just make one team for any competitive eSports and just win all the money. Koreans are just impossible to beat. MVP has got a CSGO team and they suck donkey balls compared to the current elite | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
From $55k last year to $1mil this year and a good chance to go further. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32739 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On August 13 2016 11:21 DucK- wrote: They seemed to have not prepared well. Most of their wins came from PA strategies. They didn't even use io bb when given a chance against wings. Still the games vs og were a joy to watch. Which is very strange cause they played and won with it several times in a Chinese LAN before TI. IO/bb that is. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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Baggage
Hong Kong593 Posts
Rumors are floating around about a potential demon return? | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
It was a good win don't get me wrong but it's literally the only significant win they have. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3329 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32739 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
Sad to see him go tho..these 5 as a team represented mvp..I am not sure what in the future awaits for him and rest of the team but wish them all good luck | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32739 Posts
OK, let’s start from the very beginning. You team did not win a single game in the group stage. What was the actual reason behind this? Internal conflicts caused us some problems in group stage and it stacked up through the main event. Would you mind revealing some info on the MVP’s roster for your fans? Currently everyone is considering. For now is only MP who left the team, the rest of us are in a “what to do” stage. http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/40962-qo-interview-post-ti6-i-need-more-time-before-telling-how-things-will-go-for-me-with-mvp | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On August 17 2016 00:17 hariooo wrote: Aside from beating OG, TNC didn't really do much this tournament not sure why Demon's stock would rise that much for winning a single series. It was a good win don't get me wrong but it's literally the only significant win they have. Demon also coached MVP's first squad. Assuming this isn't just the usual post-TI trolling, it wouldn't be too shocking for him to be valued highly in the team/organization. | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On August 23 2016 06:34 PhoenixVoid wrote: http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/40962-qo-interview-post-ti6-i-need-more-time-before-telling-how-things-will-go-for-me-with-mvp MVP is pretty much done unless they get a foreign carry. There is literally NO ONE in hot6 or the entire Korean scene that can play up to his level. The sad thing is MVP had much more success with QO safe/MP mid. Too bad they are too stubborn in their ways to come together. They had the same ideological differences in TI5, not surprised that it came up again. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32739 Posts
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/512otm/mvp_phoenix_line_up_for_mpgl_sea_championship/ | ||
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CodeskyE
United States777 Posts
On August 17 2016 00:17 hariooo wrote: Aside from beating OG, TNC didn't really do much this tournament not sure why Demon's stock would rise that much for winning a single series. It was a good win don't get me wrong but it's literally the only significant win they have. tnc won 2-0 against wings in group stage | ||
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nanaoei
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Tephus
Cascadia1753 Posts
On September 09 2016 21:59 nanaoei wrote: since they play later today, are they going to be using standins or will we know their players? It hasn't really been confirmed if it's MVP's roster going forward, but the roster for this even has been known for a week or so. They are playing with Velo and Reisen. | ||
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nanaoei
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/a/K4yCM) | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On September 10 2016 14:20 nanaoei wrote: sorry, missed that somehow. hope reisen is god ! Reisen has been performing much better than the beginning of the tournament. I still think Febby carry isn't going to work against better teams, but I'm legit surprised by how well Velo has been playing. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32739 Posts
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DucK-
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PhoenixVoid
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3329 Posts
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Tephus
Cascadia1753 Posts
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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Corgi
United States408 Posts
But they really only have enough players for 1.5 teams realistically. Did the organization simply implode? Their money simply never paid to the players making them leave? What is the story and did people find out what really went down when all their best players split up? | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
they tried QO's idea of caveman dota and for that style everyone has to be on board. it worked at the time that they were winning events and doing very well. when there were roster changes the members that left wanted to try something new, possibly in strategy as well. the people who did stay, like febby, decided to give it one last try. that's when they had already lost some core members. the gameplay style has always been to fit to QO's tastes. febby expressed that he wanted to learn and play new heroes because if he were a free agent up for grabs people would only know him as this wisp player, etc. you know how some musical acts split up based on artistic differences? I would say this is basically along the same line. them building multiple teams in korea is good rather than bad because they have players practicing, especially against one another. | ||
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