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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 21:44:11
May 23 2017 21:39 GMT
#5041
so you admitted you were a troll? :/...


Btw, i still don't understand the logic behind this, wasn't better to drop the nip trio and bring akke+synd+xcal to the team? This makes 0 sense
The Real Power~
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
May 24 2017 02:21 GMT
#5042
I have my doubts but good luck guys! Hope Pablo can surprise us and bring Alliance to the good ol' days.
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
smecz
Profile Joined May 2017
41 Posts
May 24 2017 06:30 GMT
#5043
To the previous posters that didn't read the statement - Pablo will mainly play pos 4 and not Handsken. That is a good thing I would say, let's see tonight before the usual-negative-rather-see-them-loose-then-win-just-to-be-right-with-whine. >
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
May 24 2017 08:16 GMT
#5044
Pos 4 or 5, doesn't make any difference. Still the same typeof player as egm. He better be a star drafter or this changes nothing.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
smecz
Profile Joined May 2017
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-24 09:10:05
May 24 2017 09:09 GMT
#5045
A good pos 4 roamer can make a big difference, Handsken often didn't have much impact on such heroes but of course sometimes he did good. It remains to be seen, just funny how ppl are so certain in their predictions for this new addition without seeing it in action. Not saying that it will definitely be an improve, but have to wait and see today.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-24 10:29:52
May 24 2017 10:24 GMT
#5046
Ofc stuff can turn out other than projected, that's not the point. I've seen them play with Pablo earlier and he doesn't bring more to the table then egm. Same position, same play style. The point is that it was a pretty stupid change and from lodas perspective, Pablo HAS to have more than just a good position 4 roamer. That is not what was crucial and lacking in the team. We saw their power when they had synergy and made right calls and right drafts. But there were no consistency to it. We need better draft all round and better desicion making in all games throughout the game. I can't see Pablo doing that.

Changing a red chair for another red chair won't change the setting in the dining room.

But ofc it might turn out differently. Odds are against it tho.

Edit: I'm not saying a good position 4 roamer csnt/won't make any difference. I'm saying it won't make any difference in this particular team.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
smecz
Profile Joined May 2017
41 Posts
May 24 2017 10:34 GMT
#5047
Last time Pablo played with alliance (at least as far as I know) it was with the old squad. The game has changed a lot since and also with the most recent patch, which I want to believe fits their play style somewhat better. When EGM was with the team he mostly ended up on 5 pos anyway which probably took away some potential. I guess loosing a lot doesn't do anything good for your morale as a team, I can only hope that this will at least "reset" them in some way but yeah.. hard to say.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-24 10:47:40
May 24 2017 10:46 GMT
#5048
That's my point exactly. He mostly "ended up",stuff like that happen when a team make bad choices. Very often they (handsken egm) swapped between 4 and 5, during the same game even. That's not a gameplan. It's a lack thereof.
But we'll see.

I'm not arguing to be right, I'm frustrated because I don't understand the thought around it. Maybe it's a new spark like yousaid, but loda also stated they would stick together.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
smecz
Profile Joined May 2017
41 Posts
May 24 2017 10:54 GMT
#5049
It was very surprising too see EGM go and we of course don't really know all the details, if it was somewhat mutual or not, he did pull the other team together rather quickly thou so maybe something was already in the works if the LAN wouldn't work out. One thing I can think we can say at least to not have Handsken on Pos 4 is hardly a bad thing, even thou i'd rather see EGM in the team and having him on that position. Hopefully they will do what's best for the team now (Not taking into account of letting EGM go), as i suspect that Handsken just wanted to play pos 4 and had it as some sort of demand even if it not good mostly.
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-24 13:39:37
May 24 2017 13:34 GMT
#5050
first game of Alliance 3.0 looks pretty decent, jsf is feeding right now, dude is using LC without dagger at 20 min, holy shit.
smecz
Profile Joined May 2017
41 Posts
May 24 2017 14:23 GMT
#5051
Almost a small scare there when they almost wiped. I think Pablo did a good game, he missed fissure block or two but the echo slams where on point. Jonas had a really rough start but he recovered well and had good impact in regarsd to locking down the TB.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 24 2017 15:08 GMT
#5052
I've just seen the decisive fight G2
Loda chasing a ghost scepter shadow shaman runs around like a headless chicken
Then Void comes in, and chronos loda in shapeshift, A crumbles :D

Okay I was kiddin' this team's still fun to make fun of :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 24 2017 15:15 GMT
#5053
On May 25 2017 00:08 LemOn wrote:
I've just seen the decisive fight G2
Loda chasing a ghost scepter shadow shaman runs around like a headless chicken
Then Void comes in, and chronos loda in shapeshift, A crumbles :D

Okay I was kiddin' this team's still fun to make fun of :D


hhhhhh , didnt watch it but sounds funny , will probably catch the replay !
smecz
Profile Joined May 2017
41 Posts
May 24 2017 15:18 GMT
#5054
That was a couple of unfortunate chronos basically disabling loda : p
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-24 15:59:50
May 24 2017 15:58 GMT
#5055
On May 25 2017 00:15 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2017 00:08 LemOn wrote:
I've just seen the decisive fight G2
Loda chasing a ghost scepter shadow shaman runs around like a headless chicken
Then Void comes in, and chronos loda in shapeshift, A crumbles :D

Okay I was kiddin' this team's still fun to make fun of :D


hhhhhh , didnt watch it but sounds funny , will probably catch the replay !

jsf is using furion right now xD
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
May 24 2017 16:31 GMT
#5056
On May 24 2017 06:39 Zea! wrote:
so you admitted you were a troll? :/...


Btw, i still don't understand the logic behind this, wasn't better to drop the nip trio and bring akke+synd+xcal to the team? This makes 0 sense


You assume that they want to play with LodA as carry. I mean it says a lot to me when Akke himself doesnt want to play with Loda, and chooses EGM + Synderen ahead of him.
Envy fan since NTH.
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
May 24 2017 16:33 GMT
#5057
JONAS FURION GOD
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
May 24 2017 16:37 GMT
#5058
On May 25 2017 01:33 WakaDoDo wrote:
JONAS FURION GOD

is he? that's just heresy to say in an alliance thread
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
May 24 2017 16:38 GMT
#5059
Nah he just somehow managed to get a rampage and it looked kinda cool.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
May 24 2017 16:39 GMT
#5060
Lulda less GPM than Tide as a safe lane carry Spectre and they were ahead like 80% of the game? Hos is that even possible...Like no wonder you lose a won game
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