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GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
March 03 2016 10:54 GMT
#2641
By the way, what opponent do we prefer for the next BO3? LGD or Complexity (if I understood the brackets correctly)?
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
March 03 2016 10:58 GMT
#2642
bulldog and akke played really well, just need s4 to start making some plays
Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
March 03 2016 11:32 GMT
#2643
On March 03 2016 19:54 GinNtoniC wrote:
By the way, what opponent do we prefer for the next BO3? LGD or Complexity (if I understood the brackets correctly)?


And its complexity China is falling...
Birthdays are good for you. The more you have the longer you live!
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
March 03 2016 11:54 GMT
#2644
On March 03 2016 20:32 Hai1Fyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 19:54 GinNtoniC wrote:
By the way, what opponent do we prefer for the next BO3? LGD or Complexity (if I understood the brackets correctly)?


And its complexity China is falling...


Yeah. Question is: Did we prefer LGD?

Anywho: What points should be kept in mind vs Complexity? Drafting? Strategy?
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
March 03 2016 12:11 GMT
#2645
On March 03 2016 20:54 GinNtoniC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 20:32 Hai1Fyre wrote:
On March 03 2016 19:54 GinNtoniC wrote:
By the way, what opponent do we prefer for the next BO3? LGD or Complexity (if I understood the brackets correctly)?


And its complexity China is falling...


Yeah. Question is: Did we prefer LGD?

Anywho: What points should be kept in mind vs Complexity? Drafting? Strategy?


Beware of the NIP revenge! To be serious....Brewmaster is a common pick up for Col and they do well with it, enigma is to be feared, they like others have started to play a lot of tidehunter, they love IO and Tiny is Linmp's best hero at the moment. Lone druid is also a favored pick but for safe lane carry.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12126 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 12:36:01
March 03 2016 12:33 GMT
#2646
Great game today. Just watched it and they mostly nailed their game plan with some minor mess ups here and there. Overall performance was high enough to offset them though.

Nice to see Alliance still has that killer instinct for getting rax when the other team overextends on the wrong half of the map.

Lucky about the draft though. Getting Io + Tiny with enchantress and bat. Signature heroes galore.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
March 03 2016 15:24 GMT
#2647
Anyone know if we face TL/MVP or EG/secret if we beat coL?
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 15:27:34
March 03 2016 15:27 GMT
#2648
On March 03 2016 21:33 Yurie wrote:
Great game today. Just watched it and they mostly nailed their game plan with some minor mess ups here and there. Overall performance was high enough to offset them though.

Nice to see Alliance still has that killer instinct for getting rax when the other team overextends on the wrong half of the map.

Lucky about the draft though. Getting Io + Tiny with enchantress and bat. Signature heroes galore.


Io hasn't been banmaterial the entire tournament tho. Maybe a game or two. Also, banning those you mentioned leaves LD, Chen and NP in the pool, also signature heroes. Hard to ban correct vs A atm.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
skiekai
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy51 Posts
March 03 2016 15:37 GMT
#2649
On March 04 2016 00:24 lookfirewood wrote:
Anyone know if we face TL/MVP or EG/secret if we beat coL?


EG/secret
HeYmaney
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland193 Posts
March 03 2016 16:15 GMT
#2650
On March 03 2016 19:58 hifriend wrote:
bulldog and akke played really well, just need s4 to start making some plays


Agreed. Can't wait to see him outplaying again his opponents mid :-)
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 19:20:32
March 03 2016 19:17 GMT
#2651
On March 04 2016 00:37 skiekai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 00:24 lookfirewood wrote:
Anyone know if we face TL/MVP or EG/secret if we beat coL?


EG/secret

are you sure on that?

I was actually hating on the brackets for sending Alliance in the top lower-bracket half as well as the other 3 where they ended up because that would just mean you get a repeat of the upper bracket matches: assume TL loses vs MVP, if TL gets in the upper half we'd have Alliance vs TL again. Or Secret losing vs EG, we get a repeat of Secret vs OG which just sounds stupid. Let teams have a crack at the other half of the tree by swapping around a bit imo...
(looking at stuff on Liquipedia, no idea if it looks different on some official site)

So if you're right, yay, that sounds good o/
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 21:13:24
March 03 2016 21:13 GMT
#2652
What a fucking tense game guys, that was amazing, the buyback into rax was pure genius, i love when we got our trademark heroes, EGM's wisp is something else. Joakim and Henrik played flawlessly, such beasts... Loda recovered very well from a rough start. If s4 starts to play at his full potential, well, future is bright ahead us. Don't worry Gustav, don't feel the pressure of the event, we LOVE YOU :D!! Just free your mind
The Real Power~
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
March 03 2016 21:35 GMT
#2653
Heart attack game no doubt , S4 is not up to his usual standard , i hope now its a BO3 and top8 he can relax abit and play his best , also they should run that OP dumb hero of the patch OD mid , i bet S4 can play this right click hero , i wouldnt want to let the enemy get it for a puck or bat , its not worth it i feel .....
We will get Akke Ench again for sure as Col prioritize Enigma so we can pick greedy , i hope to see some Loda spectre as well , i think we run it really well. no LD/NP probably as Col will contest it as well (Chessie plays them i belive).
should be doable in a Bo3 , LETS DO ITTTTTTT
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12126 Posts
March 03 2016 21:37 GMT
#2654
I don't think S4 on OD suits Alliance playstyle. They base their game on having him be the initiator and tempo setter. If he is on OD he is instead the carry. Banning OD as one of their two (unless they have a counter strat for that specific hero) is probably the best idea for them.
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
March 04 2016 13:40 GMT
#2655
just hope they stick with this roster , no kicking and blaming
6nnn
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
March 04 2016 13:44 GMT
#2656
Hard lose to Col (who played well ill give them that) , Sad thing they fought like LIONS to get back into the game and when they actually turned it around completely (won everyy 5 man fight in the last 15 min) , they went in to take rosh when they had 0 ulti and low health against relocate IO , just a shame , really , they ALMOST had it .
Hope they dont get too demorilized and keep it going , still the best team to watch.
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
March 04 2016 14:00 GMT
#2657
On March 04 2016 22:40 sunrazgriz wrote:
just hope they stick with this roster , no kicking and blaming


Pretty sure they won't because if they were to kick someone, what other options do they have that's not a downgrade? Also their performance wasn't that bad tbh, Col is obvously a super legit team so although it was an upset it wasn't a huge one.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12126 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 14:18:26
March 04 2016 14:08 GMT
#2658
A minor point regarding Alliance drafting.
http://stats.noxville.co.za/hero/best-runs-elo?patch=6.86

73,3% win rate on OD. Highest ELO change in the tournament of the common heroes. Probably has bigger impact than Earth spirit.
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
March 04 2016 14:12 GMT
#2659
On March 04 2016 23:00 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:40 sunrazgriz wrote:
just hope they stick with this roster , no kicking and blaming


Pretty sure they won't because if they were to kick someone, what other options do they have that's not a downgrade? Also their performance wasn't that bad tbh, Col is obvously a super legit team so although it was an upset it wasn't a huge one.

with that retard draft last game , 1-8 early game .. they did amazing job come back..
but i dont understand why they dont have patience , i thought they go play rosh only to draw buy back and flee, but they fought and lose.

their performance is good but not their decission making (shot caller ?)
6nnn
kishill
Profile Joined April 2015
Switzerland67 Posts
March 04 2016 14:30 GMT
#2660
why brew.... WHY... I just hate this hero and i hate it for s4... even when he played very well but i hate this hero with this meta... but gl to col wp
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