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On November 01 2016 19:02 FreakyDroid wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2016 11:01 LemOn wrote: I doubt it has anything to do with roles, there must be lots of arguing withing the team on personal level when they give up on purpose, let team mates die and don't even bother defending raxes
After day 1 I simply refused to watch their remaining games, but I didnt see anything of the sorts you're describing. Did this happen in their day 2 games? Their game vs Secret
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On November 01 2016 19:22 LemOn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2016 19:02 FreakyDroid wrote:On November 01 2016 11:01 LemOn wrote: I doubt it has anything to do with roles, there must be lots of arguing withing the team on personal level when they give up on purpose, let team mates die and don't even bother defending raxes
After day 1 I simply refused to watch their remaining games, but I didnt see anything of the sorts you're describing. Did this happen in their day 2 games? Their game vs Secret
Thx I'll check it out.
Just watched it, yeah I remember this game I saw it live. Didnt get the impression they gave up, perhaps you can make the argument that Dendi was throwing by just farming and not teleporting which was their key hero for high ground defense. All of their games were like that, only ArtStyle and Sonneiko looked like they give a damn while the rest just kept feeding or afk farming.
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Announcements this week. Hope to see another CEO rage, as it was with VP. And hope to see Na'vi rise again.
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http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/516077-navi-announces-roster-changes
Dendi and General stays
Honestly, im happy with this, i would have loved to keep Sonneiko too but maybe he didnt want to and its good for him to go and search for more opportunities 
Artstyle was a great captain but if navi wanted to step up they needed a better player also, and thanks to Ditya Ra, he stick with the teams through rought times and was even part of a great tournament win
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Sad to see Sonneiko go, but happy that this started. It should have began sooner but oh well...
I also hope they deal with this slowly enough. There is a lot of time until the next batch of tournaments' qualifiers begin.
I wonder who would they get, there are not a lot of free players or not locked that I like.
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Im not sure about supports tho, it depends if Dendi keeps playing mid but Iceberg and fn are top choices for me
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On November 07 2016 23:03 Faruko wrote: Im not sure about supports tho, it depends if Dendi keeps playing mid but Iceberg and fn are top choices for me Even better, wait for VP to fail at the Major and then snatch Ramzes.
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Thats not a bad option too hahaha
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and not cis-only, finally
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I'd love to have Ramzes. The guy shows a ton of potential for how young he is. nice to see we're not going to limit to only cis
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I find it interesting that you all are focused on skill and not fit for this team right nowb, especially with what Navi has said. Those 3 players were all skilled leading up to TI, but it wasn't their skill that held them back. Its interesting on seeing how Navi moves forward dealing with these cores.
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On November 08 2016 12:31 Judicator wrote: I find it interesting that you all are focused on skill and not fit for this team right nowb, especially with what Navi has said. Those 3 players were all skilled leading up to TI, but it wasn't their skill that held them back. Its interesting on seeing how Navi moves forward dealing with these cores. How could we possible focus on something else if we don't know those aspects of the players?
I would love to know if Ramzes or anyone is professional enough. That info is not public, or not as easy to obtain as skill info.
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Interview was awesome, and the fact that sending and general agreed to work in that environment talk about commitment.
This is the first time I've seen an interview of a team trying to work as an actual team
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On November 08 2016 20:50 Faruko wrote: Interview was awesome, and the fact that sending and general agreed to work in that environment talk about commitment.
This is the first time I've seen an interview of a team trying to work as an actual team Yes, even if this project takes some time (two years for instance) to be regarded as successful, it could be the basis Dota teams need to start looking professional: - Players taking their activity seriously, considering it a job instead of just playing a videogame - More than five players working for the same organization under the same routine so to say, even if they are not part of the team, which could lead to subs and actually swapping players mid tournament/series (yea I know, too far from Dota reality) - Players working as a unit independently of feelings or friendship - Organizations taking the reins of the team and its composition, leaving the players free and focused on the game
I could go on, but there is too much that can be said. If this works, and ends up transforming the Dota scene (yea I know, too much imagination) I will be so happy.
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Like the interview siad, CSGO players are much more mature, they can say whatever the fuck they think in game but they know work and life are 2 separate stuff so whatever they say mid game is just about the game and not their personal opinion.
More often than not ive seen Dota 2 teams broken because they mix both, personal life with job, i mean... who isnt force to work with some asshole form time to time ? you just swallow your feelings and work, for the greater good
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On November 09 2016 04:33 Faruko wrote: Like the interview siad, CSGO players are much more mature, they can say whatever the fuck they think in game but they know work and life are 2 separate stuff so whatever they say mid game is just about the game and not their personal opinion.
More often than not ive seen Dota 2 teams broken because they mix both, personal life with job, i mean... who isnt force to work with some asshole form time to time ? you just swallow your feelings and work, for the greater good To play good dota you need to have more confidence i your team mates than cs:go, so maybe the relation between players gets burned out more quickly because of that.
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On November 09 2016 18:30 Pontual wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2016 04:33 Faruko wrote: Like the interview siad, CSGO players are much more mature, they can say whatever the fuck they think in game but they know work and life are 2 separate stuff so whatever they say mid game is justsure about the game and not their personal opinion.
More often than not ive seen Dota 2 teams broken because they mix both, personal life with job, i mean... who isnt force to work with some asshole form time to time ? you just swallow your feelings and work, for the greater good To play good dota you need to have more confidence i your team mates than cs:go, so maybe the relation between players gets burned out more quickly because of that.
This is not really true at all. Not sure where that came from.
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For once, i really really doubt it
and second, that would be incredibly hard to test and be sure of
So no, i dont think thats true at all
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