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Ingvar
Profile Joined April 2015
Russian Federation421 Posts
June 24 2015 14:51 GMT
#201
Showmatch between Empire and VP starts at 17:00 CET today (in 10 minutes), for some reason there is no announcement on LiquidDota. Hype!

Empire is also on a bootcamp in Moscow since yesterday, I guess it is the beginning of preparation for TI (and also good practice since they'll play Esportal together).
MMA | Life | Classic | Happy | Team Empire | Team Spirit
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
July 30 2015 05:57 GMT
#202
this is a quote
Ingvar
Profile Joined April 2015
Russian Federation421 Posts
July 31 2015 06:02 GMT
#203
Group B was one hell of a ride. But with a happy ending. LGD is strong, but it was also strong in MDL, now it's preparation time.
MMA | Life | Classic | Happy | Team Empire | Team Spirit
Byyk
Profile Joined December 2004
457 Posts
July 31 2015 07:59 GMT
#204
That was close. Now, LGD is on the menu...
Ma Jae Yoon, sAviOr, the greatest player of all time.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
July 31 2015 08:02 GMT
#205
I'm really hoping for a pleasant surprise from these boys vs LGD.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Byyk
Profile Joined December 2004
457 Posts
July 31 2015 21:57 GMT
#206
"Dota 2 Top 5 Pro Plays Group Stages TI5" or "Top5 Team Empire plays" or "Top 5 Yoku plays" I am really not sure. :-D

Ma Jae Yoon, sAviOr, the greatest player of all time.
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
August 01 2015 08:58 GMT
#207
Those Magnus plays.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-01 10:06:09
August 01 2015 10:05 GMT
#208
Are they really crumbling again at TI? Both this TI and last year they looked super strong coming up to it but at the event they're looking shaky. I picked this team for top 5 but it looks like a top 8-10 at best right now.

Hoping Resolution can show why he is one of the best players in the world.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-01 11:31:02
August 01 2015 11:27 GMT
#209
On August 01 2015 19:05 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Are they really crumbling again at TI? Both this TI and last year they looked super strong coming up to it but at the event they're looking shaky. I picked this team for top 5 but it looks like a top 8-10 at best right now.

Hoping Resolution can show why he is one of the best players in the world.


They did make it into the upper bracket, so this far they did what they needed to. For example at MarsTV Empire went 1-3 in groups (losing to VG, c9 and EHOME) and then beat LGD and VG in the playoffs.

I didn't really see Empire as a team that would be super consistent and just stroll through the groups before the event. But now that they made it into the upper bracket, I wouldn't even be all that surprised if they win some games, given their LAN history from the past few months against big name teams. While a lot of people seem to think LGD vs Empire is heavily LGD favored at this point, I think it'll be very close.

Also this "crumbling at TI" is a bit overblown as far as Empire goes. For TI3 the team broke apart before the qualifiers, so they didn't get to play in the main event. And at TI4 they went 6-9. Cutoff point for tiebreakers was 7-8, and 8-7 was already enough for 5th place in the groups. The field was very close. They were hardly an overwhelming favorite to make top6 for example before the event started. I don't remember how their games actually went down really, but I don't think one should just put it blindly down to them crumbling. There's quite a bit of variance involved. Just 2 bo1 games going differently and suddenly Empire would have been in the playoffs and noone would be talking about their TI curse.

And now before TI5 it's not like they've been consistently beating every team. Online they've dropped games to for example VP, c9, mouz, LC, Vega, etc. So it's not surprising to me that their level of play can vary and they are near the middle of the group. But that said, they have also shown that they can beat some of the biggest teams when the playoffs start. But we'll see how it goes for them.
Byyk
Profile Joined December 2004
457 Posts
August 03 2015 22:04 GMT
#210
The game is hard. I hope they will do better in losers brackets. The game 3 is over after draft :-(
Ma Jae Yoon, sAviOr, the greatest player of all time.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
August 05 2015 02:26 GMT
#211
Disappointing TI for Empire. They looked like they were still off form after yesterdays loss to LGD. MVP just seemed to be the more confident team, better team.

After all those lan wins and finals, to go out like this is a sad result for them.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Ingvar
Profile Joined April 2015
Russian Federation421 Posts
August 05 2015 03:03 GMT
#212
How can you play 2-1 vs LGD but 2-0 vs MVP. Whatever. I'll stay with the team until the roster resembles current Empire but I'm not sure it will be very long.
MMA | Life | Classic | Happy | Team Empire | Team Spirit
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
August 05 2015 05:04 GMT
#213
Disappointing.

Oh well.
Liquipedia
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 05 2015 08:13 GMT
#214
I'd say Silent really choked this time. He has been deservingly regarded as one of the top carries around for the past few months, but his dives has cost Empire games against LGD and MVP.
Byyk
Profile Joined December 2004
457 Posts
August 05 2015 08:24 GMT
#215
I am sooo sad :-(
Ma Jae Yoon, sAviOr, the greatest player of all time.
Ingvar
Profile Joined April 2015
Russian Federation421 Posts
August 05 2015 10:32 GMT
#216
On August 05 2015 17:13 DucK- wrote:
I'd say Silent really choked this time. He has been deservingly regarded as one of the top carries around for the past few months, but his dives has cost Empire games against LGD and MVP.


Silent's Antimage was the only thing that could bring them victory. And he was the best in the game 3 vs LGD. I would also pay attention to awful support play, underwhelming performance from Reso during the whole tournament.
MMA | Life | Classic | Happy | Team Empire | Team Spirit
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 05 2015 11:01 GMT
#217
Before TI I thought Empire was a hard team to judge. A lot of people were putting them really high up because they beat teams like EG, LGD, VG on LAN. But Empire also dropped a lot of games online all the time, even to some teams like LC etc. However, I didn't really see a lot of those games so I had a hard time judging what is the actual reason and how high to expect Empire to place. And now even in these playoffs they are close to 2-0ing LGD, and then they get 2-0d by MVPP. I didn't see the games against MVPP last night, but it was a very surprising result to me. People laugh about "c9 inconsistency" (when imo in reality with their most recent lineup they haven't even been that inconsistent, they were just consistently behind the top teams and consistently beating the rest), but Empire has shown even more of that.

No doubt a lot of these Empire players are capable of doing very well in the future. Hopefully they won't ruin everything by making too drastic conclusions and throwing each other under the bus.

StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
August 05 2015 14:30 GMT
#218
yoky carried them through groups and had almost no impact in the Key Arena games, Silent threw game one vs LGD and general blink decisions during the whole playoffs were really off, resolut1on had like 3-4 games at his usual level throughout the whole tournament, the support duo never once found the groove that made them so strong in LANs earlier in the year.

I can't say you can really blame anyone in particular, they just really failed as a team when they really could have easily 2-0'd LGD and made a great run. I dunno what it is if it's not very much nerves among other things.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 05 2015 14:50 GMT
#219
We could take resolut1on, no problem
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
August 05 2015 15:03 GMT
#220
One of my fav teams, really sad to see them out of the tournament .
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