I think you should add some of their notable 2nd and 3rd place finishes into the achievements list. 2nd at SL9 and 3rd at D2CL S2 aren't exactly bad accomplishments.
I kind of felt like they were losing at the draft in their games vs C9.
Giving up Doom and letting bone7 play Batrider was pretty worrying. C9 ended up taking the lead in the midgame and while Empire put up a good fight, I just never saw them taking it with just Mirana and DK as their cores vs the amount of lockdown C9's lineup had.
I hope they bounce back in D2CL (whenever that tournament decides it wants to end -_-)
On June 17 2014 10:34 rebdomine wrote: I kind of felt like they were losing at the draft in their games vs C9.
Giving up Doom and letting bone7 play Batrider was pretty worrying. C9 ended up taking the lead in the midgame and while Empire put up a good fight, I just never saw them taking it with just Mirana and DK as their cores vs the amount of lockdown C9's lineup had.
I hope they bounce back in D2CL (whenever that tournament decides it wants to end -_-)
Yeah, agreed; for the last couple of patches, Empire has valued Mirana very, very highly(which makes sense, because both Resolut1on and Silent are great Mirana players and it's one of the best heroes), but even if they thought it was on par with bat/doom, I don't think it makes sense to trade it for both.
Oh well though, C9 absolutely outplayed and outdrafted Empire that series; even the win felt kind of flukey. I'm disappointed, but hopefully things will go better in D2CL/D2L and then TI!
On June 22 2014 06:30 LemOn wrote: why did vanskor play wisp and alwayswannafly rubick? Vanskor's rubick is awesome and alwys was even in rox
It's because they're both "his" heroes, so one of them has to be played by Alwayswannafly, they have to decide which is more important for Vanskor to play well I guess.
Kinda sad how there are hardly any people posting here.
Empire are actually my favorite Western team and today was particularly rough seeing both DK and Empire sitting in bottom 6 slots at the end of the day.
i guess a lot of empire fans are from CIS and they don't often come on liquiddota, i guess are there russian equivalents to our forums where they talk there
On July 11 2014 11:00 rebdomine wrote: So is the dream dead if they lose to iG later?
I think the magic number is probably 9 losses, so no, that'll "only" drop them to 7 losses. Tomorrow is a tough day though; realistically, I don't think they're making the playoffs at this point.
On July 10 2014 15:18 opterown wrote: i guess a lot of empire fans are from CIS and they don't often come on liquiddota, i guess are there russian equivalents to our forums where they talk there
Probably but there are some exceptions like me.
I really like their progression over time and their overall play style is a mixture of aggressive CIS style and more calculated overall western style. Considering their previous tournament performances, I'd expect more from them. I understand the competition is the hardest but please gather your shit and start owning. Gogo Empire.
We're not gone yet, but Empire need to get a little lucky.
The good news is I think the most likely result is 10th place tiebreaks, but even that is not a guarantee; Empire needs to beat Arrow (likely), LGD needs to lose its last game (likely), and none of the 5-8 teams can win 2 games(likely, I think?)
Even so, 10th break tiebreaks, if they even happen, are going to be rough; there's probably going to be at least 3-4 teams in it fighting for one slot.
According to this interview there is a 0% chance Empire stays together. If I understood correctly seems to imply that Silent is likely to leave. Vanskor also expresses dissatisfaction with the Empire manager and says he was rather unhelpful throughout TI4. I have a feeling AWF will be gone as well as he has always seemed like the weakest link of the team.
Mag and Resolution are two of the hottest players in CIS (or even all of Europe) right now. They can only get better from here, provided they have a solid team, an experienced leader and a good drafter to back them up (I wasn't a fan of Mag's drafting in TI4 and they really struggled adapting to the Skywrath/Razor TI meta).
On July 14 2014 15:12 sleeepy wrote: According to this interview there is a 0% chance Empire stays together. If I understood correctly seems to imply that Silent is likely to leave. Vanskor also expresses dissatisfaction with the Empire manager and says he was rather unhelpful throughout TI4. I have a feeling AWF will be gone as well as he has always seemed like the weakest link of the team.
Mag and Resolution are two of the hottest players in CIS (or even all of Europe) right now. They can only get better from here, provided they have a solid team, an experienced leader and a good drafter to back them up (I wasn't a fan of Mag's drafting in TI4 and they really struggled adapting to the Skywrath/Razor TI meta).
Sometimes you have to make difficult decisions, do not judge us harshly. Today cheerteam_empire match against c9!
Not sure what CIS players are out there that aren't already on a team and are an upgrade to Empire's current lineup. Maybe he's referring to the lineup for a different game?
Quite possible. Dunno what to think, but at least the games i watched sonneiko in (mostly when he stood in for power rangers) he seemed really good, so it's probably not too bad. Mag's pretty inconsistent.
So the last few games Resolut1on is out and Scandal has been standing in. Is Resolut1on sick or on vacation or something or is this a portent of things to come?
does anyone know why yoky- has been drafting lately instead of silent? I'm more than fine with it, just wondering if anyone knows what caused the change
From what i know from resolution interview. He stated that they draft as a team as opposed to how usually it's more of a captains doing the drafting (like how VG or EG does it). He also stated that whatever the team has decided to play Silent always has the final say on the draft if he allows it or not.
Probably just Yoky must be more active on the drafting phase discussion and/or they found more success with his decisions on the draft lately that must be why they decided to give let him do the draft.
Mentioned this before in some other thread. yoky's drafts are so awesome because he picks common #4 heroes as a #3. SK es and rubick today. He played Pudge and morph some other day too. I like that they are trying out their own style.
On March 15 2015 02:02 DucK- wrote: Mentioned this before in some other thread. yoky's drafts are so awesome because he picks common #4 heroes as a #3. SK es and rubick today. He played Pudge and morph some other day too. I like that they are trying out their own style.
Yeah he doesn't draft the usual 3 pos heroes for himself. Feels like the team has 3 supports.
On March 15 2015 02:02 DucK- wrote: Mentioned this before in some other thread. yoky's drafts are so awesome because he picks common #4 heroes as a #3. SK es and rubick today. He played Pudge and morph some other day too. I like that they are trying out their own style.
Yeah he doesn't draft the usual 3 pos heroes for himself. Feels like the team has 3 supports.
Ehh, yoky- plays a lot of traditional 4s, but he doesn't play them like a 4. Right now for instance, his sand king is second on his team's net worth, not far behind Resolut1on.
On March 15 2015 02:02 DucK- wrote: Mentioned this before in some other thread. yoky's drafts are so awesome because he picks common #4 heroes as a #3. SK es and rubick today. He played Pudge and morph some other day too. I like that they are trying out their own style.
Yeah he doesn't draft the usual 3 pos heroes for himself. Feels like the team has 3 supports.
Ehh, yoky- plays a lot of traditional 4s, but he doesn't play them like a 4. Right now for instance, his sand king is second on his team's net worth, not far behind Resolut1on.
That's my point actually.
He plays a lot of non-offlanes heroes but plays it as 3 pos. It just feels like they have 3 supports roaming around due to Yoky.
On March 22 2015 00:40 shad2810 wrote: Resolution and Aloha is such awesome people to talk to ! Didnt get much chance to talk to yoky,silent,awfly tho
That's nice to hear! On the others, I hear that, appropriately enough, Silent doesn't talk much.
Silent just smiled, but he dont really talk much. I told Aloha that i love seeing his rubick plays, and he was smiling at me and said ''thank you, you see plenty of those''. I smiled back in returned happily. Made my day
I mean, I went into this tournament expecting for Empire to get second to iG and that's what happened. I'm not happy per se, but I'm not disappointed either.
They just need to not throw advantage when they have it. Really close games vs iG. I think that thay don't believe they can beat iG. Skillvise they surely can but they respect iG too much...
On March 23 2015 02:24 Byyk wrote: They just need to not throw advantage when they have it. Really close games vs iG. I think that thay don't believe they can beat iG. Skillvise they surely can but they respect iG too much...
IG was pretty much the better team but the team gotta be happy they made IG work hard for it .. pretty much means if they improve like a bit more they can become a serious contender in TI5
Win vs TT is nice but play was not good, Black throw 3rd game hard. Really intense game, if you want to see same back and forth game, watch that game :-)
On April 23 2015 12:40 DucK- wrote: Empire beating NiP once again. They have some form of rivalry in that series are ofte close, but empire always edges by a bit.
That's not rivalry when one team always wins. And this series looks closer than it was, I mean, carry Mirana, wtf?
On April 23 2015 12:40 DucK- wrote: Empire beating NiP once again. They have some form of rivalry in that series are ofte close, but empire always edges by a bit.
That's not rivalry when one team always wins. And this series looks closer than it was, I mean, carry Mirana, wtf?
Oh yea I checked the stats. Empire always win. But stats hide the fact that many of the games are often very very close though.
On April 23 2015 12:40 DucK- wrote: Empire beating NiP once again. They have some form of rivalry in that series are ofte close, but empire always edges by a bit.
That's not rivalry when one team always wins. And this series looks closer than it was, I mean, carry Mirana, wtf?
alliance vs navi was one of the biggest rivalries but i'm pretty sure Na'vi has alliances numbers
On April 23 2015 12:40 DucK- wrote: Empire beating NiP once again. They have some form of rivalry in that series are ofte close, but empire always edges by a bit.
That's not rivalry when one team always wins. And this series looks closer than it was, I mean, carry Mirana, wtf?
alliance vs navi was one of the biggest rivalries but i'm pretty sure Na'vi has alliances numbers
On April 23 2015 12:40 DucK- wrote: Empire beating NiP once again. They have some form of rivalry in that series are ofte close, but empire always edges by a bit.
That's not rivalry when one team always wins. And this series looks closer than it was, I mean, carry Mirana, wtf?
alliance vs navi was one of the biggest rivalries but i'm pretty sure Na'vi has alliances numbers
post-TI4 doesn't count since they don't have the roster on their prime anymore after that .. check TI3 upto TI4 .. and count it as series not as games you'll know what i'm talking about
On April 23 2015 12:40 DucK- wrote: Empire beating NiP once again. They have some form of rivalry in that series are ofte close, but empire always edges by a bit.
That's not rivalry when one team always wins. And this series looks closer than it was, I mean, carry Mirana, wtf?
alliance vs navi was one of the biggest rivalries but i'm pretty sure Na'vi has alliances numbers
post-TI4 doesn't count since they don't have the roster on their prime anymore after that .. check TI3 upto TI4 .. and count it as series not as games you'll know what i'm talking about
Between TI3 and TI4 Na'Vi is 9-8 in series over [A]. 5-1 in playoffs though.
On April 23 2015 12:40 DucK- wrote: Empire beating NiP once again. They have some form of rivalry in that series are ofte close, but empire always edges by a bit.
That's not rivalry when one team always wins. And this series looks closer than it was, I mean, carry Mirana, wtf?
alliance vs navi was one of the biggest rivalries but i'm pretty sure Na'vi has alliances numbers
post-TI4 doesn't count since they don't have the roster on their prime anymore after that .. check TI3 upto TI4 .. and count it as series not as games you'll know what i'm talking about
Between TI3 and TI4 Na'Vi is 9-8 in series over [A]. 5-1 in playoffs though.
during elimination series i don;t remember a single time where alliance won against them since TI3 finals
it's like the relationship of c9 and alliance when s4 was still on alliance
nay, resolution. Yoky didnt play and dont play today either, same standin. Change incoming? Hope not, yoky may be a bit yolo put has the coolest play style ever.
On May 06 2015 02:56 Elyvilon wrote: there's no way they're seriously thinking about roster changes this close to TI when they're a serious contender for a direct invite
this so much, but you never know with some teams
this is empire's year for sure, getting out of groups #thedream
On May 10 2015 03:33 beef42 wrote: Based Empire bringing rusdota back to the top where it belongs.
in pubs rusdota is already at the top, but not because they play so well;) jokes aside, very well played from empire. good to see there are still teams who can beat vici!
On October 22 2014 06:03 StarVe wrote: Hmph, I don't really think yoky is an improvement even over Mag yet, he'll have to convince me. Nevertheless, all the best to the new roster!
I repent, I repent! What an amazing pickup he turned out to be! Hope the guys will show some more good games tomorrow against Vici.
Really happy with the form these boys are showing.
I have a VG flair cause iceiceice is still my fave player, but it's awesome to see this team doing well. Hope they can keep up being hot till TI this year.
On May 10 2015 11:05 rebdomine wrote: Really happy with the form these boys are showing.
I have a VG flair cause iceiceice is still my fave player, but it's awesome to see this team doing well. Hope they can keep up being hot till TI this year.
i hear you 100% i love iceiceice but it's just something about empire that feels so fucking awesome for me, i have never been fanboying so hard over a team before
resolution and silent are fucking monsters, alohadance is so damn based, alwayswannafly is like the sticky goo that holds the team together and yoky literally gives ZERO fucks
i dunno man maybe it's kinda gay but i love these guys, i was really sad when vanskor left for na'vi but i think it opened my eyes for how god the other players were (the empire with solo never existed for me)
On May 10 2015 11:05 rebdomine wrote: Really happy with the form these boys are showing.
I have a VG flair cause iceiceice is still my fave player, but it's awesome to see this team doing well. Hope they can keep up being hot till TI this year.
i hear you 100% i love iceiceice but it's just something about empire that feels so fucking awesome for me, i have never been fanboying so hard over a team before
resolution and silent are fucking monsters, alohadance is so damn based, alwayswannafly is like the sticky goo that holds the team together and yoky literally gives ZERO fucks
i dunno man maybe it's kinda gay but i love these guys, i was really sad when vanskor left for na'vi but i think it opened my eyes for how god the other players were (the empire with solo never existed for me)
On May 10 2015 11:36 goody153 wrote: silent is probably the best CIS carry if it's not illidan and i think resolution is the best mid of CIS if not God
they are different when they win against a top they celebrate and explode in emotions .. you will see eg/c9 when they win they like ugh just nothing
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Yeah they really exploded (Alohadance reserves an award for his swag explosion), but I could totally understand that since VG is THE team to beat right now. watching them rolling over the whole chinese dota scene like it was TI4 all over again makes you a little bit frightened i would guess. I mean I can imagine, that the stereotype of East>West is also represented in some pro-players minds (at least a little bit) so I would think other teams would show a similar reaction honestly.
Anyhow I totally wish them the best I never liked Empire but I was sitting on the edge of my seat this game cheering for them (even though I liked VG since they formed) and I was rly happy to see them win. Just so well played!
I'm a NiP fanboy out of nationality and Counter Strike reasons but goddamn do I have a lot of love in me for Empire too. Make the world proud and send Vici home with a 2nd place today.
Lame EE, stop crying and get second place as it is meant to be.
i'm pretty sure that's not complaining about it
btw switch to reddit fulltime if you are gonna post like that here
Wow, I like your shining armor, man, you gotta read between lines, that is a plain complain. Just wait until C9 lose to Empire and you will see him excusing himself with something of the like.
Edit: Also, really well played by Empire, pretty glad to see someone going aggressive early and succeeding.
Lame EE, stop crying and get second place as it is meant to be.
i'm pretty sure that's not complaining about it
btw switch to reddit fulltime if you are gonna post like that here
Wow, I like your shining armor, man, you gotta read between lines, that is a plain complain. Just wait until C9 lose to Empire and you will see him excusing himself with something of the like.
Edit: Also, really well played by Empire, pretty glad to see someone going aggressive early and succeeding.
Don't be an ass. I didn't read it as a complaint either.
On May 11 2015 04:17 evanthebouncy! wrote: yo what does "cis" even mean, nowhere it's defined I take it meaning russian lawl
It stands for "Commonwealth of Independent States"(which is a real thing), but in esports it means ex-USSR, basically.
Lame EE, stop crying and get second place as it is meant to be.
i'm pretty sure that's not complaining about it
btw switch to reddit fulltime if you are gonna post like that here
Wow, I like your shining armor, man, you gotta read between lines, that is a plain complain. Just wait until C9 lose to Empire and you will see him excusing himself with something of the like.
i'm pretty sure you are just flame baiting and/or finding fault even on simple things that ee posted
You know i expected better of you since you were one of the posters who try to consider some perspective but seeing you post like this looks like i was wrong about you and that's only limited to na'vi. Honestly this kind of stuff belong to reddit just go switch fulltime there.
Lame EE, stop crying and get second place as it is meant to be.
i'm pretty sure that's not complaining about it
btw switch to reddit fulltime if you are gonna post like that here
Wow, I like your shining armor, man, you gotta read between lines, that is a plain complain. Just wait until C9 lose to Empire and you will see him excusing himself with something of the like.
i'm pretty sure you are just flame baiting and/or finding fault even on simple things that ee posted
You know i expected better of you since you were one of the posters who try to consider some perspective but seeing you post like this looks like i was wrong about you and that's only limited to na'vi. Honestly this kind of stuff belong to reddit just go switch fulltime there.
Hahaha, don't get mad, you are right, I flame-bait here and there. I apologize people, right from the heart.
Note: Even if it can be read that way, I feel like he will use it in the future as an excuse, just because he gives me that vibe. But maybe I am wrong and he is just stating an observation.
Edit: Sorry, I am a football fan, and in that context people is always like that.
On May 11 2015 04:17 evanthebouncy! wrote: yo what does "cis" even mean, nowhere it's defined I take it meaning russian lawl
It stands for "Confederation of Independent States"(which is a real thing), but in esports it means ex-USSR, basically.
Commonwealth, actually.
But yeah, it's basically the ex-USSR states still keeping loose association with each other, mostly for trade and economic reasons. Sort of like the current British Commonwealth.
On May 10 2015 03:24 SQWKZ wrote: GGWP! Almost wanna bandwagon and change my flair back to Empire.
so you always have the flair of the strongest team? XD
Lol. Not really. Just got the same feels as I did back when I cheered for silent, funn1k & co. a couple of years ago, and I really like resolut1on too. Dunno if they're the strongest, though :D
On May 11 2015 05:03 sunrazgriz wrote: funny when last month everyone said funnink > yoky
because funn1k is more consistent than yoky and also isn't as balls to the walls insane
what people don't understand is considering empires all-over skill they can manage to play with yoky, not because he is less skilled but has a high risk high reward playstyle while funn1k would just be solid as an offlaner
Shit that Empire plays the best they've ever played, but they haven't qualified for ESL or The Summit. They haven't actually played at any big international LAN with more than one other good team this year. (I think)
On May 11 2015 09:02 Procake wrote: Shit that Empire plays the best they've ever played, but they haven't qualified for ESL or The Summit. They haven't actually played at any big international LAN with more than one other good team this year. (I think)
No, you're right. This iteration of Empire has consistently struggled online(and against Cloud 9), while doing much better offline.
I mean, it's been less than a week since Empire lost a Bo3 to Team Tinker. They didn't have yoky- in that series but I'd argue that we'd still expect them to be favored.
because funn1k is more consistent than yoky and also isn't as balls to the walls insane
what people don't understand is considering empires all-over skill they can manage to play with yoky, not because he is less skilled but has a high risk high reward playstyle while funn1k would just be solid as an offlaner
yoky > funn1k all day errday
yup , both have different playstlye , but to me yoky is more fun to watch. i remember when yoky play jungle strom spirit and kick ass. what i like bout empire is their hero pool. they have so much pick for every player on the team, regarding their position.
I wonder if Empire want to go to that MarsTV league in June, I assume they will get invited because I'm guessing EG doesn't want to play multiple LANs a month and will decline. It would be nice to see them in a LAN with multiple really good teams before TI.
On May 11 2015 15:14 sunrazgriz wrote: what i like bout empire is their hero pool. they have so much pick for every player on the team, regarding their position.
Is that really true? I havent watched many of their games, only the finals that they both won vs EG and VG, but last year their limited hero pool/strategies really killed their run at TI even tho they were destroying everyone just before that. What happens if they cant pick gyro or disruptor?
On May 11 2015 15:14 sunrazgriz wrote: what i like bout empire is their hero pool. they have so much pick for every player on the team, regarding their position.
Is that really true? I havent watched many of their games, only the finals that they both won vs EG and VG, but last year their limited hero pool/strategies really killed their run at TI even tho they were destroying everyone just before that. What happens if they cant pick gyro or disruptor?
Also, gyro is so strong this patch.
They'll pick Wisp or Rubick or Earthshaker or Tusk or Undying or Zeus for Alohadance. And no Gyro for Silent? I mean he's a carry, there are probably not a lot of carries he can't play. Recently he's played a lot of Bristleback, Brew and Viper, I think, especially when resolut1on is on farming mids. And if all else fails they can always go back to Mirana or Lycan or Clinkz
Fuck yeah, they're going to China instead! Who'd have thought the time was ever going to come when Empire would be popular enough to get invites to Chinese tournaments.
On May 28 2015 18:02 StarVe wrote: Fuck yeah, they're going to China instead! Who'd have thought the time was ever going to come when Empire would be popular enough to get invites to Chinese tournaments.
Showmatch between Empire and VP starts at 17:00 CET today (in 10 minutes), for some reason there is no announcement on LiquidDota. Hype!
Empire is also on a bootcamp in Moscow since yesterday, I guess it is the beginning of preparation for TI (and also good practice since they'll play Esportal together).
Are they really crumbling again at TI? Both this TI and last year they looked super strong coming up to it but at the event they're looking shaky. I picked this team for top 5 but it looks like a top 8-10 at best right now.
Hoping Resolution can show why he is one of the best players in the world.
On August 01 2015 19:05 GiveMeYourtTots wrote: Are they really crumbling again at TI? Both this TI and last year they looked super strong coming up to it but at the event they're looking shaky. I picked this team for top 5 but it looks like a top 8-10 at best right now.
Hoping Resolution can show why he is one of the best players in the world.
They did make it into the upper bracket, so this far they did what they needed to. For example at MarsTV Empire went 1-3 in groups (losing to VG, c9 and EHOME) and then beat LGD and VG in the playoffs.
I didn't really see Empire as a team that would be super consistent and just stroll through the groups before the event. But now that they made it into the upper bracket, I wouldn't even be all that surprised if they win some games, given their LAN history from the past few months against big name teams. While a lot of people seem to think LGD vs Empire is heavily LGD favored at this point, I think it'll be very close.
Also this "crumbling at TI" is a bit overblown as far as Empire goes. For TI3 the team broke apart before the qualifiers, so they didn't get to play in the main event. And at TI4 they went 6-9. Cutoff point for tiebreakers was 7-8, and 8-7 was already enough for 5th place in the groups. The field was very close. They were hardly an overwhelming favorite to make top6 for example before the event started. I don't remember how their games actually went down really, but I don't think one should just put it blindly down to them crumbling. There's quite a bit of variance involved. Just 2 bo1 games going differently and suddenly Empire would have been in the playoffs and noone would be talking about their TI curse.
And now before TI5 it's not like they've been consistently beating every team. Online they've dropped games to for example VP, c9, mouz, LC, Vega, etc. So it's not surprising to me that their level of play can vary and they are near the middle of the group. But that said, they have also shown that they can beat some of the biggest teams when the playoffs start. But we'll see how it goes for them.
Disappointing TI for Empire. They looked like they were still off form after yesterdays loss to LGD. MVP just seemed to be the more confident team, better team.
After all those lan wins and finals, to go out like this is a sad result for them.
How can you play 2-1 vs LGD but 2-0 vs MVP. Whatever. I'll stay with the team until the roster resembles current Empire but I'm not sure it will be very long.
I'd say Silent really choked this time. He has been deservingly regarded as one of the top carries around for the past few months, but his dives has cost Empire games against LGD and MVP.
On August 05 2015 17:13 DucK- wrote: I'd say Silent really choked this time. He has been deservingly regarded as one of the top carries around for the past few months, but his dives has cost Empire games against LGD and MVP.
Silent's Antimage was the only thing that could bring them victory. And he was the best in the game 3 vs LGD. I would also pay attention to awful support play, underwhelming performance from Reso during the whole tournament.
Before TI I thought Empire was a hard team to judge. A lot of people were putting them really high up because they beat teams like EG, LGD, VG on LAN. But Empire also dropped a lot of games online all the time, even to some teams like LC etc. However, I didn't really see a lot of those games so I had a hard time judging what is the actual reason and how high to expect Empire to place. And now even in these playoffs they are close to 2-0ing LGD, and then they get 2-0d by MVPP. I didn't see the games against MVPP last night, but it was a very surprising result to me. People laugh about "c9 inconsistency" (when imo in reality with their most recent lineup they haven't even been that inconsistent, they were just consistently behind the top teams and consistently beating the rest), but Empire has shown even more of that.
No doubt a lot of these Empire players are capable of doing very well in the future. Hopefully they won't ruin everything by making too drastic conclusions and throwing each other under the bus.
yoky carried them through groups and had almost no impact in the Key Arena games, Silent threw game one vs LGD and general blink decisions during the whole playoffs were really off, resolut1on had like 3-4 games at his usual level throughout the whole tournament, the support duo never once found the groove that made them so strong in LANs earlier in the year.
I can't say you can really blame anyone in particular, they just really failed as a team when they really could have easily 2-0'd LGD and made a great run. I dunno what it is if it's not very much nerves among other things.
On August 06 2015 00:07 rebdomine wrote: I just really hope that it doesn't lead to them disbanding or doing anything drastic.
CIS team? After TI fiasco? No roster change? Thats some next level delusional shit right here.
Even if they don't want want to shuffle, they will be forced to, because navi prob gonna buy at least one of their players.
fyi, last year after an even worse TI failure, only one player(VANSKOR) left right after TI. (Mag left a few months later, but the current lineup is 3/5s of the TI4 lineup).
On August 06 2015 00:07 rebdomine wrote: I just really hope that it doesn't lead to them disbanding or doing anything drastic.
CIS team? After TI fiasco? No roster change? Thats some next level delusional shit right here.
Even if they don't want want to shuffle, they will be forced to, because navi prob gonna buy at least one of their players.
fyi, last year after an even worse TI failure, only one player(VANSKOR) left right after TI. (Mag left a few months later, but the current lineup is 3/5s of the TI4 lineup).
they kept 4 out of 5 of their lineup shortly after TI. vanskor was an expected change (as it was documented he wanted to leave), and I'd say replacing just 1 member in the post-TI shuffle is not a drastic change.
As long as they don't blow the whole roster up (keep at least 3 of the current guys), I'll be happy.
Who the hell is actually left to pick up? I'd laugh if they actually took Fly back because he's best of the rest. :D Seriously, I'm quite curious but I hope it'll be someone who turns out to be as talented as the last pickups, ALOHA and yoky.
Well someone has to say it... Empire looks trash tier now. The loss of yoky is too much, to me he was the backbone of the team, the most underrated offlaner out there as in being just as good as zai/universe/ice3 but never mentioned in any discussion. From what i saw in these several games new offlaner guy gets destroyed every single game and on top of that everyone else also looks worse, i havent seen resolution dominate a single game, not even silent is looking solid, and hes known for being always solid, never too good never bad but solid and his not even that. I hope they dont disband but they gotta change these 2 new guys, they are really not working out...
Is there any news on whether they even have a 5th player? I thought their new players were supposed to be ubah and that apathy guy, but I'm not sure if I've seen apathy play for Empire in these games at all. Are they still looking to change the last player or is apathy just temporarily away or something?
On September 25 2015 17:29 spudde123 wrote: Is there any news on whether they even have a 5th player? I thought their new players were supposed to be ubah and that apathy guy, but I'm not sure if I've seen apathy play for Empire in these games at all. Are they still looking to change the last player or is apathy just temporarily away or something?
Apathy is still playing ranked with Empire in his name,thats about as much as I could say on the matter.
On September 22 2015 04:07 Asjo wrote: Empire have seemed really unstable lately. That is, not just bad results, but them playing with different rosters all the time. Did they play with their normal line-up in this match? I didn't catch the match, but I tuned in at the end and I saw that a few of the players didn't play with their normal nickname, which got me wondering.
I think it was their official roster -Apathy, +AWF. But yeah, hard to tell when players don't play with their proper names. Empire are fine to make changes though because they didn't submit their roster in time anyway so they'll have to play through open qualifiers whatever.
Empire look OK sometimes but they're extremely unclutch. Every time they can fuck up as a team, they do it. Not sure if Yoky was making a lot of calls before he left or if it's just a problem with team atmosphere or what.
Wow, I'm really hoping they are not taking ALWAYSWANNAFLY back. I mean, he's already registered for the next majors with CIS Rejects and committed to playing with them in several tournaments. CIS-R were shaping up to be a decent team. At TI5, Empire seemed like a really good team that was under-performing and had to try something new to somehow evolve, so I was happy to see them add some new blood, even if it was almost impossible to find an adequate replacement for someone like yoky.
But yeah, if they take AWF back, that's once again another roster change. It might be "for free" in terms of them not getting an invite anyway, but I'm certain that this instability is hurting them. Of course, since we haven't heard much from them, it's hard to tell, really. It might down to them missing a good shot-caller, as Zeelah says. Empire might have under-performed at TI5, but their TI5-performance definitely wouldn't have them losing to the teams who are beating them these days. You might suspect that Empire are "lying low" for a while like Alliance, but that would really cost them, since they are missing out on several big tournaments in the next few month. You would think that Empire expect more from themselves than Alliance do. At least, they seem really serious and professional, whereas the Alliance-boys seem more casual.
On September 26 2015 11:45 Asjo wrote: Everyone is talking like changes have actually been made to the roster of Team Empire, but as far as I can see, nothing has been announced yet. Empire have had terrible results, but I think that them playing with a different roster almost every game is a major contributor to that. Has anyone seen any confirmation of roster changes?
I really hope that they stick by their new roster, but it's really impossible to tell where they are going. After TI5, they've played matches with ALWAYSWANNAFLY, yoky, GeneraL, PotM, Fervian in various tournaments, despite none of these officially being members of their roster. There has definitely been some instability, but there has never been an explanation as to why (except when Resolut1on was on holiday and they had GeneraL as stand-in). JotM definitely does not seem good enough to become a part of the team, and it would be if they just added their old members against, since I think they need a chance to get to the next level.
Yeah the instability has been hurting them but if your games are absolute utter shit like Empire's have been in the past few days, that's just something you can't fix with time. Even a promising new roster might have a slow start, might need some time to gel well, but if you can't even beat what feels like T5 teams anymore with the supposed individual skill advantage you have that's just not gonna cut it.
Im not sure whats going on in their heads honestly, you got yoky back and now it looks like the only changed player is AWF but they are still bullshitting with this yoky mid lane thing, i havent seen him one game be decent and resolution looked only decent in the offlane. They should just play their original roles and look to swap out goblak, whole 2015 he looked like a 2k mmr player whos there just to draft and feed. Tell you the truth i have no fucking idea why they even went for roster changes after TI in the first place... i guess yoky really wants to be a burden like notail is now.
Well, i guess im ok with it as long as they replace goblak for a more quality player. We all know yoky was one of the best offlaners in the world and he is talented enough to become a good mid laner in time, same goes for resolution in offline. I suppose these matches dont matter much until first major but its depressing as fuck watching them get shit on every game more or less.
seems like he is, for now? they're trying out things and seeing what works, just like last year. in no way it's a stable roster yet, maybe they'll get there eventually.
don't think there's a timeline where they go to a major with goblak though
Well they have to make a decision soon, the open qualifiers for the major are in less than week. After the qualifiers start I doubt roster changes are possible.
On October 02 2015 01:30 FuzzyJAM wrote: Pretty fucking stupid to take the best mid and offlaner in CIS and have them on the same team in the wrong positions.
by all accounts yoky- does not want to offlane anymore
before he joined empire he played carry and then mid and he apparently still wants to do one of those
On October 02 2015 01:30 FuzzyJAM wrote: Pretty fucking stupid to take the best mid and offlaner in CIS and have them on the same team in the wrong positions.
by all accounts yoky- does not want to offlane anymore
before he joined empire he played carry and then mid and he apparently still wants to do one of those
(also G is the best mid in CIS)
I get that, but it just seems silly to me. I guess if he really hates playing offlane for whatever reason then fair enough.
On October 02 2015 01:30 FuzzyJAM wrote: Pretty fucking stupid to take the best mid and offlaner in CIS and have them on the same team in the wrong positions.
by all accounts yoky- does not want to offlane anymore
before he joined empire he played carry and then mid and he apparently still wants to do one of those
(also G is the best mid in CIS)
I get that, but it just seems silly to me. I guess if he really hates playing offlane for whatever reason then fair enough.
(Naw.)
Well, I missed the laning in the current game but they have reso on qop, yoky- on es, and ubah on tusk so I guess they are at least trying reso back on mid.
Yeah, I can't catch the games right now, was just basing it off of the reports of others. That's good, anyway. I want a strong Empire - always an exciting team.
On October 02 2015 04:51 Super_Style wrote: Watched only the first game, it was beautiful. How did the game 2 go ?
Nofear on support instead of ubah
I missed most of the game, but MB had a monster lead early on, topping out at 15k and a rax I think, but Empire got some good fights allowing them to come back
Resolut1ion said in his DreamLeague interview today that Empire had four players (thereby confirming that yoky is actually back). He said they kept trying out different players for their last slot, but hadn't decided on anything yet. They were going to start their pre-major bootcamp in about a day.
Just like Alliance, it seems that Empire are shaping up a bit. Given how scary they've been earlier, you have to believe that they have it in them to make a comeback to the top. However, I think it relies heavily on them making a quick and decisive decision about their fifth player. I also wonder if they'll keep swapping the roles depending on draft, meaning that yoky will sometimes play offlaner and sometimes carry.
On October 02 2015 04:51 Super_Style wrote: Watched only the first game, it was beautiful. How did the game 2 go ?
Nofear on support instead of ubah
I missed most of the game, but MB had a monster lead early on, topping out at 15k and a rax I think, but Empire got some good fights allowing them to come back
Ye i just watched it, pretty bad start from empire losing 7 towers and a rax in 15-20 mins, resolution getting solo killed by sf as a razor. But then yoky just decided he wanted to win and he won the game, massive performance by him, MASSIVE. Silent was solid, kept with farm and didnt make dumb mistake, nofear was as good as you expect a silencer support to be as in he didnt feed and timed his ulties well(also that divine rapier bm <3), aloha was not doing so well for 90% of the game but later on had some amazing curses. Resolution was prolly the worst on the team, big downgrade from his performance in game 1. Overall conclusion: Me likey. Getting 2-0 over MB is pretty good result atm, ofc im expecting better in the future !
I must say resolution looks very comfortable at offlane. Been relatively easy opponents so far though. Good to also see yoky thrashing his lane against weaker opponents, because that's an indicator of individual skills. Qop vs wr should be a relatively even matchup, but he destroyed calculus.
I suppose worse come to worse, they could always do a role swap depending on draft.
Yeah, resolut1on seems alright on offlane so far, bit better than i remembered from when he stood in for Na'Vi a couple of times. Once again I'm pretty impressed with yoky, too. I've seen him play a crapton of heroes in various lanes and never once have i seen him on something he seemed uncomfortable on. Truly feels like he can play any hero no matter what you give him, that's a cool thing to have.
I'm still withholding judgement since Empire with Solo looked decent from time to time but failed in the end. However if NoFear is decent, he will be a first dedicated captain since Mag~ left.
I hope there is no bad blood between Yoky and Reso so they could switch lines in case Empire needs to play Invoker or Axe or DK.
On October 10 2015 09:57 OmniEulogy wrote: its always great to see Empire doing well I hope Yoky keeps getting better and better! Absolutely love him ^^
They look impressive but it's winter time, they always tend to start looking good in winter.
On October 10 2015 09:57 OmniEulogy wrote: its always great to see Empire doing well I hope Yoky keeps getting better and better! Absolutely love him ^^
They look impressive but it's winter time, they always tend to start looking good in winter.
now that there are majors maybe we can see them win one during the winter! lol get rid of that down time where Silent forgets QoP shouldn't dive into T4's lol
So my friend and I decided we were going to do a thing where we pick a team before the Major, and support them and only them all the way through to TI6. It was a toss-up between Liquid and Empire, for me, but I picked Empire... This is an inauspicious start to the year xD
Oh well, gotta commit to these things! Go Empire! :D
TBH why is no one here telling it like it is. It's Alohadance who is the problem he doesnt gel with Silent and yoky he is a good individual player but he need a strong hand to tell him u need to support not only resolution but Silent and yoky too.
Too put it more blunt he is like a russian Notail lost in a team he doesnt like. Age i think he is 16.
On October 12 2015 20:26 Sardinemn wrote: TBH why is no one here telling it like it is. It's Alohadance who is the problem he doesnt gel with Silent and yoky he is a good individual player but he need a strong hand to tell him u need to support not only resolution but Silent and yoky too.
Too put it more blunt he is like a russian Notail lost in a team he doesnt like. Age i think he is 16.
Aloha played great with the same three cores up through ti5. Maybe reso and yoky are still adjusting to how much help they should expect from empire supports, or maybe aloha is used to alwayswannafly or yoky`s tempo controlling offlane play calling shots. I haven't seen a ton of empire lately but what I have seen has looked dismal. Not sure what I could peg as the cause though
Shame, I'm a yoky fanboy. Still think he's an incredible player who can probably play any role well, but if his style or attitude in mid didn't work for the team or whatever else it was, I guess they had to make changes.
I hope he finds another decent team to work with, or else he'd have really shot himself in the foot by refusing to play offlane, the one role he was undoubtedly one of the best in the world at.
On November 04 2015 01:20 Saki [NETOGE] wrote: Who is GeneRal?
I guess he's a pubstar. He's played for a bunch of t3 teams and has stood in for probably every CIS team out there at some point. I've read that he's supposed to be a difficult teammate and pretty cancerous relatively often but he's a solid player for sure, although he treats the game too much like a pub sometimes. Really good on SF and QoP from what i remember. Played some games for Empire earlier this year already, when Resolut1on was on post-TI vacation.
On November 04 2015 01:28 Procake wrote: Why is resolution still offlane and not mid? I thought he was only offlane because Yoky said he would leave if he couldn't play mid.
It's much easier to find a mid than an offlaner. Approximately 100% of worthwhile new blood are mid or carry.
Well when General stood in for Empire for the Esl One qualifiers after ti5 he carried pretty hard,keeping in mind our offlaner Ubah at the time had less impact on the game than a ranged creep.
I think Empire is always the team who brings new CIS players to the spotlight. The roster of TI5 was almost unknown before Empire bringing them in (apart from Fly & Silent, ofc).
On November 04 2015 03:51 Zeelah wrote: Well when General stood in for Empire for the Esl One qualifiers after ti5 he carried pretty hard,keeping in mind our offlaner Ubah at the time had less impact on the game than a ranged creep.
On November 05 2015 02:32 cuckoo wrote: I think Empire is always the team who brings new CIS players to the spotlight. The roster of TI5 was almost unknown before Empire bringing them in (apart from Fly & Silent, ofc).
Seems like they got General in playing mid, but then they havent played with him for a while and the last matches they have been playing with Flow on offlane and Resolution back to mid with pretty great results.
I'm not sure you could say that GeneRaL was ever "officially" on Empire, there was the one tweet but it didn't specify whether it was just a tryout or intended as a permanent replacement, since CIS teams tend to have pretty long tryout periods before they officially announce players.
It's weird that teams are seemingly willingly drafting into Empire dota games (Vega and Alliance) but hey! Empire top 3 and are at least 50/50 against the peaking 4CL and at worst 30-70 against OG so... there's a chance!
Vlat is saying that Silent is out of Empire and Xboct is replacing him for GameShow lan in Vilnius.He later tweeted something that translates more or less to "It's easy as 2+2 to guess where @Silentdota2 is heading and who he replaces #CISreshuffle". If this is true,BIBLETHUMP.Maybe if they can take second at Dreamleague they will change their minds and stay together.If the split is happening,I think it must be Silent choosing to leave,as in general he's been playing the best out of the team in recent games.
On November 28 2015 04:49 Zeelah wrote: Vlat is saying that Silent is out of Empire and Xboct is replacing him for GameShow lan in Vilnius.He later tweeted something that translates more or less to "It's easy as 2+2 to guess where @Silentdota2 is heading and who he replaces #CISreshuffle". If this is true,BIBLETHUMP.Maybe if they can take second at Dreamleague they will change their minds and stay together.If the split is happening,I think it must be Silent choosing to leave,as in general he's been playing the best out of the team in recent games.
If this is true, that'd make me sadder than sad D:
On November 28 2015 04:49 Zeelah wrote: Vlat is saying that Silent is out of Empire and Xboct is replacing him for GameShow lan in Vilnius.He later tweeted something that translates more or less to "It's easy as 2+2 to guess where @Silentdota2 is heading and who he replaces #CISreshuffle". If this is true,BIBLETHUMP.Maybe if they can take second at Dreamleague they will change their minds and stay together.If the split is happening,I think it must be Silent choosing to leave,as in general he's been playing the best out of the team in recent games.
If this is true, that'd make me sadder than sad D:
Oh man,the feels ;-;.Yesterday when Empire beat Vega with the Dk+Gyro dual core,it was such a nostlogic feeling I could have cried.It would be like full circle if they finished this roster having just played that lineup.
Although I'd rather them just stay together,if they are splitting I reckon its Silent going to Vega to replace 9pasha.The way this has all happened makes it seem as though its Silent who wanted to leave Empire rather than the other way around,and he wouldn't choose to leave for any team other than Vp or Vega from the Cis region.Since he's played with both Mag and Solo,and because Vega are doing quite badly atm,I think this is a possibility
On November 28 2015 04:49 Zeelah wrote: Vlat is saying that Silent is out of Empire and Xboct is replacing him for GameShow lan in Vilnius.He later tweeted something that translates more or less to "It's easy as 2+2 to guess where @Silentdota2 is heading and who he replaces #CISreshuffle". If this is true,BIBLETHUMP.Maybe if they can take second at Dreamleague they will change their minds and stay together.If the split is happening,I think it must be Silent choosing to leave,as in general he's been playing the best out of the team in recent games.
If this is true, that'd make me sadder than sad D:
Oh man,the feels ;-;.Yesterday when Empire beat Vega with the Dk+Gyro dual core,it was such a nostlogic feeling I could have cried.It would be like full circle if they finished this roster having just played that lineup.
Although I'd rather them just stay together,if they are splitting I reckon its Silent going to Vega to replace 9pasha.The way this has all happened makes it seem as though its Silent who wanted to leave Empire rather than the other way around,and he wouldn't choose to leave for any team other than Vp or Vega from the Cis region.Since he's played with both Mag and Solo,and because Vega are doing quite badly atm,I think this is a possibility
Clearly 2+2 is too hard for me cause I have no clue
On November 28 2015 04:49 Zeelah wrote: Vlat is saying that Silent is out of Empire and Xboct is replacing him for GameShow lan in Vilnius.He later tweeted something that translates more or less to "It's easy as 2+2 to guess where @Silentdota2 is heading and who he replaces #CISreshuffle". If this is true,BIBLETHUMP.Maybe if they can take second at Dreamleague they will change their minds and stay together.If the split is happening,I think it must be Silent choosing to leave,as in general he's been playing the best out of the team in recent games.
If this is true, that'd make me sadder than sad D:
Oh man,the feels ;-;.Yesterday when Empire beat Vega with the Dk+Gyro dual core,it was such a nostlogic feeling I could have cried.It would be like full circle if they finished this roster having just played that lineup.
Although I'd rather them just stay together,if they are splitting I reckon its Silent going to Vega to replace 9pasha.The way this has all happened makes it seem as though its Silent who wanted to leave Empire rather than the other way around,and he wouldn't choose to leave for any team other than Vp or Vega from the Cis region.Since he's played with both Mag and Solo,and because Vega are doing quite badly atm,I think this is a possibility
Clearly 2+2 is too hard for me cause I have no clue
As someone said on reddit,it could be Vlat fucking with the western audience as per usual
Is Funnik properly part of the roster or what? I'm all confused as to what's happening here. Not at all impressed with Funnik since TI4ish, so I hope he's not.
On November 29 2015 21:04 FuzzyJAM wrote: Is Funnik properly part of the roster or what? I'm all confused as to what's happening here. Not at all impressed with Funnik since TI4ish, so I hope he's not.
he's better than the others they've played lately imo (could've also been the entire team sucking and they are kinda picking up things better than before )
the highest form i've seen empire has been was with pre-ti4 sl9 time and during the time with yoky captaining them pre-TI5
if the tweet says "for personal reason" then it might indeed be a short term thing. From what I hear, his gf (mila) is in the hospital so that might be why
On November 30 2015 07:42 Byyk wrote: Funnik is officially back. That reminds me of once upon a time unstoppable Team Empire.
True, but Funn1k's not what he used to be. If you saw Dreamhack finals, you would have seen that he could be pretty inconsistent. But they made it to the finals at least, over Vega, 4C&L, and Alliance. I believe that a once great player can become great again.
Why did silent left the team ? and its actually xboct his replacement ?
That has to be silent decision (I mean xboct its not bad, but he is clearly a tier below silent nowadays), otherwise its not exactly a smart move by the team
Phobos is indeed an upgrade from Funnik (although I'm assuming that this decision was being made prior to Funnik officially joining, and in that regard, Phobos was definitely an improvement to whoever was offlaning for Empire at the time). There is no way lil is better than Aloha (although not much worse), G is perhaps even more solid than Resolution (although the difference is extremely negligible), and to round things out, I think as a player nofear is probably better than fng, but fng is a better than captain/drafter than Resolution.
So all things considered, I think if Silent could immediately be as in sync with the team as Illidan was, then this will be an upgrade for both sides. Empire has been on quite a roll recently so it's hard to see it as an undisputed best move.
Either way, GOOD LUCK TO BOTH PARTIES. My cheering order will now probably be LGD/VP --> Empire --> everything else now though.
Ill say G its one of the best dota 2 players nowadays
Resolut1on its not bad, like at all, he is godlike, but he has always been like "so close, yet so far" to become what people has been saying about him for about 2 years (the wonder boy from russia)
Silent has been on the team since like forever, and has really been the face of the team, along with Resolution. I'm happy for the guy since he ended up on the best CIS team our there right now.
However, I don't think this is the end for team Empire. The best teams aren't just collections of the best 5 individually skilled players, but rather collections of 5 good-enough players that gel really well together. Hopefully Empire find and develop new strategies and playstyles with Silent's replacement and keep moving forward as a team.
imho, The team's been a bit stagnant lately so I'm hoping some big changes will breathe new life into them. If XBOCT ends up being Silent's replacement, it's not so bad - he's actually a pretty underrated player I think.
(though I'm still secretly hoping yoky comes back)
Really bummed about Funn1k playing with them, I'd be happy to be proven wrong but it felt like he just doesn't care about playing competitively since like TI3 times; both judging by his play and his personality outside of the game. Would be cool to see XBOCT as the permanent replacement for Silent though, imo the most underrated player in history of DotA and it'd be a shame if he ended up retiring or whatever.
A convincing win at the Game Show Cup thing in Moscow, looks like the standins are working out so far, although I'm still a lot more convinced by XBOCT than by Funn1k. XBOCT had some really great performances during the tournament, but apart from that one Nightstalker game the best Funn1k performances seemed to be when he simply wasn't dying that much. Hope the taste of victory will motivate him more.
Pretty nice, winning $125k against that level of competition. Hopefully the organizers pay out. :3
Overall I'm relatively optimistic, the roster seems to gel better and might be ready for winter, not sure if we can expect the same level of domination this time though. I'm still yearning for some yoky-level offlane play.
On February 05 2016 05:48 Zeelah wrote: Who is the new 2 position I wonder,Yoky back maybe,he's been playing midlane in pubs again
unless he's gotten a lot better at mid than he was the last time I saw him play it(which is certainly possible, I've watched very little dota in the last several months), I hope not. world-class offlaner, mediocre midlaner.
On February 09 2016 03:10 nanaoei wrote: i haven't really seen their games lately, but tuned into their second Captain's Draft game. aloha is playing 1 these days?
On February 09 2016 03:10 nanaoei wrote: i haven't really seen their games lately, but tuned into their second Captain's Draft game. aloha is playing 1 these days?
He has been for a lil while, with xbox on offlane
yeah right now it's 1 aloha 2 fn(dunno if this will be the permanent selection) 3 xboct 4 funn1k 5 nofear
long interview with XBOCT, Sheaves on reddit translated most of it, here are some points related to Empire
Kick from Empire:
Team decided to get a rest during Shanghai Major (due to lack of opponents for training)
Xboct was in Egypt with his friends when he was told about the kick
First if was Funn1k who contacted him and told about the possibility of the kick
Korb3n (Empire dota2 squad manager) informed Xboct about the kick while apologizing and claiming he didn't see it coming
StrangeR (Empire director) also tried to call Xboct but skype conversation didn't happen due to internet problems
Xboct mentions the only episode when team confronted him about having a small offlane hero pools. It happened about 2 weeks after he took the offlane role. Xboct admitted the fact and said he was going to learn more heroes with time
Xboct admits to not being able to play Nature's Propnet or Broodmother professionally and claims that he can play Lone Druid, but the team as a whole didn't know how to play with it so they decided not to
Xboct basically told teammates "either you play with some friends, no problems, or we keep trying and see how it goes" and they were willing to keep trying. Since then Empire won 3 key series and lost one
Future of team Empire and Xboct's opinion on players and scene:
Ramzes666 will probably still join Empire later (after dotaPit), Ghostik is a stand-in
NOFEAR is the only one who Xboct really didn't like at all and he doesn't see Nofear as a good leader in the future. Hard to translate, but Xboct says NOFEAR is "slightly moronic, to put it lightly".
Alohadance will be just fine when he grows up a little and gets more experience
Fn is a great guy, pleasant to play and communicate with, although not without his own quirks
Most problems are caused by players being really yound and not mature enough, not in game but in life
Xboct himself admits to possibly being like that earlier but he was lucky enough to join Na`Vi, a team with 4 great players, and said he was willing to learn (admitting he was behind in macro, thinking, decision-making and experience why being roughly on the same level skill-wise). On the contrast, young players today consider themselves already on top and aren't that willing to learn
Empire players aren't serious enough and are often just laughing/joking during draft and don't contribute much
Xboct wishes them luck going forward
A lot more info and opinions about the CIS scene, old Na'Vi, right and left, the recent Major and XBOCT's future among others, but not really relevant to Empire per se.
Team decided to get a rest during Shanghai Major (due to lack of opponents for training)
Xboct was in Egypt with his friends when he was told about the kick
First if was Funn1k who contacted him and told about the possibility of the kick
Korb3n (Empire dota2 squad manager) informed Xboct about the kick while apologizing and claiming he didn't see it coming
StrangeR (Empire director) also tried to call Xboct but skype conversation didn't happen due to internet problems
Xboct mentions the only episode when team confronted him about having a small offlane hero pools. It happened about 2 weeks after he took the offlane role. Xboct admitted the fact and said he was going to learn more heroes with time
Xboct admits to not being able to play Nature's Propnet or Broodmother professionally and claims that he can play Lone Druid, but the team as a whole didn't know how to play with it so they decided not to
Xboct basically told teammates "either you play with some friends, no problems, or we keep trying and see how it goes" and they were willing to keep trying. Since then Empire won 3 key series and lost one
Future of team Empire and Xboct's opinion on players and scene:
Ramzes666 will probably still join Empire later (after dotaPit), Ghostik is a stand-in
NOFEAR is the only one who Xboct really didn't like at all and he doesn't see Nofear as a good leader in the future. Hard to translate, but Xboct says NOFEAR is "slightly moronic, to put it lightly".
Alohadance will be just fine when he grows up a little and gets more experience
Fn is a great guy, pleasant to play and communicate with, although not without his own quirks
Most problems are caused by players being really yound and not mature enough, not in game but in life
Xboct himself admits to possibly being like that earlier but he was lucky enough to join Na`Vi, a team with 4 great players, and said he was willing to learn (admitting he was behind in macro, thinking, decision-making and experience why being roughly on the same level skill-wise). On the contrast, young players today consider themselves already on top and aren't that willing to learn
Empire players aren't serious enough and are often just laughing/joking during draft and don't contribute much
Xboct wishes them luck going forward
A lot more info and opinions about the CIS scene, old Na'Vi, right and left, the recent Major and XBOCT's future among others, but not really relevant to Empire per se.
thanks bro, I missed this. always cool hearing some stuff from "inside the scene".
havent really been impressed by nofears play, hearing this from xboct makes the switch on vp even more strange, moving lil down, to make room for nofear ><
I miss empire tho... hoping they can come back with a strong squad... I really liked parts of theier play with fn! he seemed really good to me.
Pretty sad to see them in such a state. Hopefully next shuffle reinvigorates them as it did before, as it stands I dont see them having success with this roster, even if skill-wise they are all certainly capable.
I went to sleep before this series, but this is a cool surprise to wake up to. Reso seems to come alive during the bracket phase it seems. How did the rest of the team go?
Awesome run! This patch is very heavily skill-based And Empire placed the best from the outsider teams by far Resolut1on will be the hot asset this shuffle period
Mad respect to this team! They really played their heart out against eg After that ghostik interview, i thought what a humble and nice guy that is. Reso is awesome too, hope he stays with the team. But i doubt they just kick chappie, that would be a dick move.
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. Kinda reasonable that they are in shorts, I wouldn't last a minute if im wearing jeans 
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