EternaLEnVy Discussion - Page 67

On December 01 2014 12:17 ampson wrote:


Aui is already a magical girl.

On November 30 2014 19:24 govie wrote:
for once play a different kind of corehero envy, you guys are too freaking predictable same as alliance. Its a 4p1 with greedy supports and a lategame carry almost every freaking game and you guys wonder why you allways get 2nd place, gg. In the last +/-30 matches you mostly played 4 hero's (void, drow, TB, naga) 90% of the time. There are 103 heros in the pool and c9 only plays 20 of them, think about it.

On December 02 2014 01:53 Piledriver wrote:



Its not like the Envy hasn't played different cores over previous patches (blinkz, doom, slardar, weaver, AM, Luna, Gyro, Morph etc.). C9 was one of the earliest teams to adopt a greedy tri-core (remember MLG columbus). I think its just a question of what they think is suitable for the current patch, and play according to it.

On December 02 2014 01:53 Piledriver wrote:



Its not like the Envy hasn't played different cores over previous patches (blinkz, doom, slardar, weaver, AM, Luna, Gyro, Morph etc.). C9 was one of the earliest teams to adopt a greedy tri-core (remember MLG columbus). I think its just a question of what they think is suitable for the current patch, and play according to it.

On December 02 2014 03:18 spudde123 wrote:
I think one big part of why they play certain cores recently a lot is how much they like to have Aui on some pretty greedy support like ET, Zeus, Visage etc. that doesn't offer that much early (although obviously there are situations where each of these can be decent early on but at least for c9 they don't seem to do much early). And then they have really liked to have PLD on Venge a lot recently, which can be decent early in some situations but can't really fight against some common supports other teams use like Ogre. Imo if you want to play some carry that likes to get active early for example, it's also important to combine it with heroes that can secure the laning phase to allow the carry to have early free farm, get those key early levels and one item before he goes and does things. I don't even really remember when c9 has played with a support duo that can completely zone out an offlaner or can provide a real ganking threat to other lanes, or at least I have the impression that c9 often concentrates on just taking the early game slow instead of putting on a lot of early pressure.

The "4p1" also sounds a bit funny to me because I feel more than with some other teams that the supports they pick c9 don't really protect EE's early farm at all. Imo it's pretty common that EE doesn't have that good of a laning phase, and their goal is to use Fata's and bone7's easier starts to do something in the mid game while Aui and EE farm their way to be relevant. I agree that they have played a bunch of games where EE is the only real physical damage threat later on, but the way they play them isn't really by protecting EE. And it isn't really traditional 4 people distracting while the carry farms either. I feel after the laning phase they often try to have people farming on different sides of the map (examples being EE/Aui/Fata farming opposing jungle and their safe lane constantly), split the opponent up and then they have 1-2 heroes that can pick people off when they have to push out lanes.

Whether they should try to do something different depends imo on how they feel about the games they've lost against EG. I know from interviews that at SL for example they felt really good about their draft in the last game and they just screwed it up by playing the trilane terribly, and even then their comeback wasn't that far off. But if you feel that you lost because you played a bit bad, and you can play better, I don't think you should try to do some really random things. I don't think c9 want to get a one off win over EG by some surprise strats, but instead draft and play well enough that they could do it consistently.

On December 02 2014 03:25 LemOn wrote:

oh wow that's a pretty accurate EE costume, who is cosplaying him?

On December 02 2014 06:48 Daralii wrote:

Meruna.

On December 03 2014 04:37 reTARDONTWITCHCHAT wrote:

but who is cosplaying meruna ? Envy?

On December 03 2014 05:20 Piledriver wrote:


Of course.

Envy if you dont win Summit 2, I am removing my C9 flair.

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On December 03 2014 13:50 Daralii wrote:
Eternal "We lost to SNA" Envy