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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
August 05 2018 21:22 GMT
#141
Reference to Torte
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 05 2018 21:26 GMT
#142
We'll have to see if the caster crew can stabilize at all and if the bots change up the gameplan, but right now it's really just the VG strat. Sustain to stay aggressive and emphasize levels to win midgame.

Creep pulls should screw them over heavily, they didn't seem to react at all to creeps being anywhere except lane. Observer wards in lane instead of jungles should spot the early rotations, then the players should just hang back.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
August 05 2018 21:28 GMT
#143
On August 06 2018 06:18 cecek wrote:
Very interesting to see how many consumables the bots use. But it's kind of lame that they mostly win just by perfectly executing teamfights and having superior reaction time.


5 couriers makes it very hard to play a "normal" dota game vs OpenAI, I would love to see that restriction removed
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1770 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 21:34:27
August 05 2018 21:34 GMT
#144
Really cool to see how OpenAI calculates winning percentage during the draft.
[image loading]

Disrespects SF.
Leee Jaee Doong
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 05 2018 21:36 GMT
#145
I'm not really following how they can pick Lich in that case. They think Lich gives them 43.8% chance to win, surely there is a hero that they think gives them more than 50% chance to win as 1st pick?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 05 2018 21:39 GMT
#146
Yeah, pretty clear the bots don't understand lane control or movement blocking yet. Which is weird considering they learned to creep block at the start.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 05 2018 21:40 GMT
#147
Again Merlini and Cap are engaging into the bots and just dying
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
August 05 2018 21:56 GMT
#148
I think Lion just dusted because his movement was obstructed by the invis riki.

What the fuck
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 21:58:23
August 05 2018 21:57 GMT
#149
The bots are just casually going for base pushes without aegis and the humans get outplayed in the fight

On August 06 2018 06:56 Firebolt145 wrote:
I think Lion just dusted because his movement was obstructed by the invis riki.

What the fuck


I think they just saw Fogged mid with their sentry and they saw him run towards top rune
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 22:02:14
August 05 2018 21:59 GMT
#150
I think the bots are going to have a hard time against top teams that have better coordination/execution. Rushing bkb's seems like a good way to win against them.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 05 2018 21:59 GMT
#151
Merlini such a load.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 22:01:49
August 05 2018 22:01 GMT
#152
genuinely dont understand how they arent spamming hoods/pipes against pure magic damage teams that completely rely on being able to blow stuff up with spells
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1770 Posts
August 05 2018 22:02 GMT
#153
[image loading]
Much better for humans but still <30 min game win by OpenAI.
Leee Jaee Doong
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 05 2018 22:03 GMT
#154
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 05 2018 22:03 GMT
#155
This is best of 5, right? Damn though this is pretty crazy, even if it's kind of cheesy with the couriers and stuff.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 05 2018 22:07 GMT
#156
On August 06 2018 06:39 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Yeah, pretty clear the bots don't understand lane control or movement blocking yet. Which is weird considering they learned to creep block at the start.

they learned to creep block given an incentive to do so. openai team probably decided there wasnt a strong reason to keep it around.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1770 Posts
August 05 2018 22:10 GMT
#157
lol no roshans because games usually don't last that long.
Leee Jaee Doong
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 22:23:53
August 05 2018 22:23 GMT
#158
On August 06 2018 06:36 spudde123 wrote:
I'm not really following how they can pick Lich in that case. They think Lich gives them 43.8% chance to win, surely there is a hero that they think gives them more than 50% chance to win as 1st pick?

Maybe the bot just thinks that picking second is inherently better?
On August 06 2018 07:03 Aerisky wrote:
This is best of 5, right? Damn though this is pretty crazy, even if it's kind of cheesy with the couriers and stuff.

Bo3, but they're playing out the third game.
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1770 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-05 22:46:25
August 05 2018 22:36 GMT
#159
lol wtf. Twitch chat decides OpenAI heroes.



Win probabilities after draft.
[image loading]
Leee Jaee Doong
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 05 2018 22:37 GMT
#160
On August 06 2018 07:23 ASoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2018 06:36 spudde123 wrote:
I'm not really following how they can pick Lich in that case. They think Lich gives them 43.8% chance to win, surely there is a hero that they think gives them more than 50% chance to win as 1st pick?

Maybe the bot just thinks that picking second is inherently better?


Ah right, maybe that's the case
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