Manila Major - Final Day Recap - Page 2

they also become the first team to have won two official Valve tournaments

On June 13 2016 04:07 Taf the Ghost wrote:


It seems the official line is going to be that it was a "Valve-sponsored" event, not a "Valve-run" event. So "Valve Event" stats won't include it. So DAC functionally ends up being the Proto-Major.

On June 13 2016 04:32 WolfintheSheep wrote:

In that case, wouldn't Frankfurt and Shanghai not count as well?

Seems like weird lines to draw.

On June 13 2016 04:50 Julmust wrote:

I'll just pop in and give you an explanation for the word choice here:
Yes DAC was Valve sponsored, but it wasn't a part of the TI season if that makes sense? I could have written "first team to win two majors" but then it wouldn't be as clear that this also includes past TI's.

Not gonna say what's right and what's not, but that's why I worded it the way it did.

On June 13 2016 06:30 Keardan wrote:
Small typo: the text on the homepage says "After getting knocked down by in the groups OG has just become better with every game", missing "Newbee" there.

On June 13 2016 01:16 Dysisa wrote:
I don't get this talk of OG somehow having been in a "slump" until now. Sure they didn't play as good as at Frankfurt or Manila in most of the months in-between, but they sure as hell were never bad. Aside from arguably Shanghai and DotaPit (a single elim tourney, where they went out to MVP when they were probably at their very best), they've had nothing but respectable finishes. What Secret is going through right now, THAT'S a slump.

Still though that's a very minor thing in this whole writeup, you did a great job with it overall!

First, it will be even between the different regions' teams. Different from the results of Shanghai, most of the Chinese teams will make it to the top group. So will the Koreans. However, they will still have a difficult time with the best European teams in the tournament, who are still the region to take down. It will be close games between all but a few teams, so top teams going out early will happen, and the groups are going to see a lot of lelz, but because the tournament is so long, being able to change will be the most important and only the smart teams will be able to do it.

Second, among the European and American teams, American teams are almost certainly going to be the worst of the two. I do not see a sudden rise in American skill come Manila; they will be around the middle of teams. Russia may see one or two of their teams do well, but they won't win. For Southeast Asia, Koreans will end way above Fnatic, as they have in previous big tournaments, and might even win, though that'll be up to whether they have new strategies and heroes to bring in.

For China, people will look to Xiao8's team and Newbee but I don't think they have the best pick and strategy, so unless their new teams do well, China won't win, and in my opinion, VGR is in fact their hope, but their results will be completely on their middle player's ability to play well in his first international tournament, and you can't say he will. For the West, it's never easy to see which team will suddenly step up, but I think the two best teams going in are obvious to those who have seen the recent tournament.

It will be one of the best tournaments. Unlike Shanghai, the best Western teams are not way ahead of other regions' teams in skill, though they still do have the advantage in strategy, since the best Western teams have more heroes they can play than teams in other regions. The player changes started by Secret is the reason why the West is no longer obviously the best - it brought an end to a year when PPD's team and Puppey's team were the best teams in the West. Now both teams are not at their best going into the tournament. People will blame Arteezy, but the fault is equally Puppey's and EternalEnvy's. Still, because the West has so many top teams, it's still not too bad..