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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 25 2014 10:12 GMT
#1001
On September 25 2014 19:03 Daralii wrote:
Merlini's analysis, a full 2 hours shorter than Purge's.



Thank God someone who can be a bit more organizational and smarter with their content. It's very irritating to see that Purge not only didn't read the patch notes before-hand, but he doesn't edit out every moment where he's pondering like Aristotle.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
totalpigeon
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom162 Posts
September 25 2014 10:15 GMT
#1002
I'm guessing a rune ward will be a lot less important now, since you can pick up a rune at either spot every other minute guaranteed. I'd say that raises the bar for warding some.

Contesting the bottom rune looks quite a bit riskier for dire now they've lost an escape route.
Lixo
Profile Joined May 2011
202 Posts
September 25 2014 10:23 GMT
#1003
On September 25 2014 18:41 Nerfed wrote:
aw
my
gawd


Look at
her
b...

Liking the huge meep's buff !!!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 25 2014 10:42 GMT
#1004
So can you still stack ancients for Radiant and Dire now with Beastmaster?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 25 2014 10:46 GMT
#1005
On September 25 2014 19:12 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 18:28 FHDH wrote:
Pretty much just think of any hero with disgusting burst spells having Bloodrage applied. Have fun watching your supports fall over and die when Silencer double Aghs ults! Enjoy!!! As Zeus double Aghs ults and your whole team dies! Celebrate the life that was as Bloodrage Lina destroys your BKB carry!

"Damage dealt by" buffs typically only apply to autoattack damage. "Damage dealt to" buffs typically apply to everything.

EDIT: PL is a completely different hero now. Comparing it to the old PL is nonsensical and that should be clear from the % trigger rate on the new Juxtapose (40/45/50% Illusion creation rate + 8% for Illusions is absolutely unbelievable compared to the current Juxtapose, which is 12% Illusion creation rate + 2/4/6% for Phantom Edge ranks and 3/5/7% for Illusions).

Bloodrage amplifies damage done with spells by the bloodraged hero.
super gg
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 25 2014 10:48 GMT
#1006
Does the 0% damage PL illusion from his blink manaburn and do damage with a diffusal? It should, right? The feedback isn't affected by how much damage what illusion does, so it should also work on a 0% damage illusion.
super gg
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 25 2014 10:53 GMT
#1007
On September 25 2014 19:46 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 19:12 TheYango wrote:
On September 25 2014 18:28 FHDH wrote:
Pretty much just think of any hero with disgusting burst spells having Bloodrage applied. Have fun watching your supports fall over and die when Silencer double Aghs ults! Enjoy!!! As Zeus double Aghs ults and your whole team dies! Celebrate the life that was as Bloodrage Lina destroys your BKB carry!

"Damage dealt by" buffs typically only apply to autoattack damage. "Damage dealt to" buffs typically apply to everything.

EDIT: PL is a completely different hero now. Comparing it to the old PL is nonsensical and that should be clear from the % trigger rate on the new Juxtapose (40/45/50% Illusion creation rate + 8% for Illusions is absolutely unbelievable compared to the current Juxtapose, which is 12% Illusion creation rate + 2/4/6% for Phantom Edge ranks and 3/5/7% for Illusions).

Bloodrage amplifies damage done with spells by the bloodraged hero.


It amplifies everything done by the hero by 40%. Pretty sure items as well though I haven't specifically tested them yet.

Yeah though he's something now. I like the changes but he may be really broken.

LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 25 2014 11:12 GMT
#1008
On September 25 2014 19:46 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 19:12 TheYango wrote:
On September 25 2014 18:28 FHDH wrote:
Pretty much just think of any hero with disgusting burst spells having Bloodrage applied. Have fun watching your supports fall over and die when Silencer double Aghs ults! Enjoy!!! As Zeus double Aghs ults and your whole team dies! Celebrate the life that was as Bloodrage Lina destroys your BKB carry!

"Damage dealt by" buffs typically only apply to autoattack damage. "Damage dealt to" buffs typically apply to everything.

EDIT: PL is a completely different hero now. Comparing it to the old PL is nonsensical and that should be clear from the % trigger rate on the new Juxtapose (40/45/50% Illusion creation rate + 8% for Illusions is absolutely unbelievable compared to the current Juxtapose, which is 12% Illusion creation rate + 2/4/6% for Phantom Edge ranks and 3/5/7% for Illusions).

Bloodrage amplifies damage done with spells by the bloodraged hero.

Then that is absolutely crazy lol. It enables so many heroes rofl.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 25 2014 11:13 GMT
#1009
Yeah the skill is literally dmg amp
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 25 2014 11:17 GMT
#1010
Ye ye, it should work on stuff like Dagon and shit, for sure. It's gonna be really fun, I think. You can even put it on an ally and on an enemy and then these two heroes do 80% extra damage to each other. It's kind of nuts.
super gg
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 25 2014 11:21 GMT
#1011
Put it on heroes in Duel lmao.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 25 2014 11:22 GMT
#1012
Game ruining levels of power. So powerful, he cannot control who he gives the power to.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 25 2014 11:23 GMT
#1013
ROFL cast it on urself then wait 6 seconds and u have a 6 second window to bloodrage -> eblade dagon someone
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
September 25 2014 11:34 GMT
#1014
i remember reading somewhere that bloodraged skywrath does around 7k damage with his ulti on a target that is also bloodraged
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 25 2014 11:49 GMT
#1015
On September 25 2014 20:34 iv~nk~j wrote:
i remember reading somewhere that bloodraged skywrath does around 7k damage with his ulti on a target that is also bloodraged

There's a reason why he was removed from CM.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
September 25 2014 12:12 GMT
#1016
On September 25 2014 20:49 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 20:34 iv~nk~j wrote:
i remember reading somewhere that bloodraged skywrath does around 7k damage with his ulti on a target that is also bloodraged

There's a reason why he was removed from CM.

also, dagon 5 does 1646 damage if you have bloodrage on both you and target and the target is in ethereal form
Datteln
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany76 Posts
September 25 2014 12:18 GMT
#1017
Hey, anybody got an info when the patch will be live?
Mada mada dane.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 25 2014 12:31 GMT
#1018
Probably next week.
super gg
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 12:44:42
September 25 2014 12:42 GMT
#1019
On September 25 2014 16:14 Belisarius wrote:
Yeah he actually dropped off much faster than I expected him to.

I would have lost any bet I'd made on his lasting popularity, but I'm also 100% okay with that outcome.

*cough cough*
I believe i'm entitled to a told you so
Also techies' winrate is far larger than i thought it would be, personally assumed 35% but it's nearing 45%.

Overall i really like this patch though. The changes might seem radical but i feel they're gonna make the game overall more fun to play. I loved playing blood seeker though and can't wait to try him out with the changes although i'm not sure what kind of team he's ideal with, maybe with heroes that can burst a lot? Gonna be fun!

Also new SF looks fucking baller. Not too sold on the arcana though.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
September 25 2014 12:44 GMT
#1020
Arcana sf is fire lord
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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