EPTOn September 25 2014 15:13 Champloo wrote:
Any words on when the patch will go live?
Any words on when the patch will go live?
Two hefty patches of bug squashing late Wednesday makes it seem like tomorrow is a possibility, but we'll see.
6.82 Balance Changes and Discussion Thread - Page 49
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
Two hefty patches of bug squashing late Wednesday makes it seem like tomorrow is a possibility, but we'll see. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On September 25 2014 15:28 Nagvalk wrote: Liking the raised fountain and increased fountain defence range too - fountain camping is such bullshit. Drow is back even more - buff to frost arrow slow! Didn't see anyone mention this, but SB charge of darkness cooldown is now 12 seconds? And buff to greater bash? Damn, my 2700 mmr pubs just got nuked.. and also it doesnt trigger the cd until you hit a target so free movement around the entire map | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19346 Posts
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On September 25 2014 15:28 Nagvalk wrote: Liking the raised fountain and increased fountain defence range too - fountain camping is such bullshit. Drow is back even more - buff to frost arrow slow! Didn't see anyone mention this, but SB charge of darkness cooldown is now 12 seconds? And buff to greater bash? Damn, my 2700 mmr pubs just got nuked.. The cooldown of charge starts resetting after you hit a target (or cancel) and not like it used to from the start of your charge. So it is better in short distance charges but nothing changes for medium or long range charges. | ||
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Nagvalk
South Africa220 Posts
Am I right that his greater bash damage is now linked to movement speed? So his passive+bt's gives him a crap-ton of bash damage? Disturbing... Although the last time I played him my lvl 4 bash didn't hit for 17 hits in a row... | ||
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Resisty
United States375 Posts
On September 25 2014 15:45 Nagvalk wrote: SB used to destroy pubs, was insta-picked for a long time, till everyone learned to 5- man against him. Guess he's mostly going to have an easier time farming since he can move to vacant lanes easily. Am I right that his greater bash damage is now linked to movement speed? So his passive+bt's gives him a crap-ton of bash damage? Disturbing... Although the last time I played him my lvl 4 bash didn't hit for 17 hits in a row... Bash is the same. It's just rescaled to do twice as much damage level 1. | ||
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7042 Posts
On September 25 2014 15:45 Nagvalk wrote: SB used to destroy pubs, was insta-picked for a long time, till everyone learned to 5- man against him. Guess he's mostly going to have an easier time farming since he can move to vacant lanes easily. Am I right that his greater bash damage is now linked to movement speed? So his passive+bt's gives him a crap-ton of bash damage? Disturbing... Although the last time I played him my lvl 4 bash didn't hit for 17 hits in a row... his greater bash always did damage based on movespeed but now it has been rescaled to do more damage at level 1 | ||
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Souone
Brazil470 Posts
Doesn't matter at this point though, since the game was already dead after ranked made everyone toxic and pubs became unplayable forever after techies. | ||
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7042 Posts
On September 25 2014 15:52 Souone wrote: Dota 2 turning into LoL because reasons. Doesn't matter at this point though, since the game was already dead after ranked made everyone toxic and pubs became unplayable forever after techies. ive had 1 techies in nearly 10 games in the past week i've had more pudge players than techies players in those 10 games it's really not that bad | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On September 25 2014 15:54 tehh4ck3r wrote: ive had 1 techies in nearly 10 games in the past week i've had more pudge players than techies players in those 10 games it's really not that bad Yeah Techies fell off real quick after most people realized they didn't know how to play them. Pudge is still the fat stinky king of the fat hill of fats. This graph kinda says it all: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wJdXXYw.png) | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6228 Posts
I would have lost any bet I'd made on his lasting popularity, but I'm also 100% okay with that outcome. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On September 25 2014 15:08 babysimba wrote: Doom is still good since this patch favors hero that are strong in teamfights but don't need as much networth. Heroes like tide, centaur, etc. Probably will see more offlane dooms rushing aghs and blink. Anyway PL is going to be the new cancer in pubs, like how broken TB is in last patch. How so? I think PL got nerfed hard. Early game, he still has no lane presence unless paired with a Kotl so he can spam lances. His rush passive is pretty terrible at early levels, his blink/phase skill has a pretty long cd and also doesn't do that much in lane either. PL can't split push, rat, or flash farm anymore since his illusions only last 8 seconds, 4 if created by other illusions. Plus, his late game took a huge hit since he lost a ton of Agi gain and he no longer has bonus magic resist. Meaning his illusions not only don't last as long, they're weaker, too. oops. reading zz I just don't see it. I'm also like 20 pages late on this, but the reason why I think Bloodseeker is in a stronger spot right now is cause: While his solo kill potential went down, his general usefulness and teamfight ability is a lot stronger. Bloodrage is a 40% damage increase for everything including spells. That means early game you put it on your nukers and watch them 1 or 2 shot people. Late game you put it on either yourself or your carry and let them shred the enemy. His Blood Rite skill is gonna be pretty damn good for teamfighting. Yes, there's a long 3 second delay, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. The aoe is about as large as Engima's midnight pulse and realistically functions the same way in that it's a huge zone control/don't stand here ability. Either the enemy moves out of the area and mess up their positioning, or they stay in the aoe and take a pure damage nuke and get silenced for 3-6 seconds. If your team can follow it up with stuns or roots or slows, then even better. Thirst is not all-or-nothing now, which is probably better. Rupture got nerfed, but I think it's a reasonable trade off for the rest of the changes. Plus, you kinda still have guaranteed damage if you Rupture then Blood Rite them. Either they stand still and take the Blood Rite nuke (which is significant) or they run out of the aoe and take Rupture damage. Or they TP away, but they could do that pre-6.82 anyways. Plus, 12 seconds is a long time... | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On September 25 2014 15:52 Souone wrote: Dota 2 turning into LoL because reasons. Doesn't matter at this point though, since the game was already dead after ranked made everyone toxic and pubs became unplayable forever after techies. Nobody plays techies, ranked is fine, DotA is still light years, infinite light years away from LoL | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
On September 25 2014 16:19 Alpino wrote: Nobody plays techies, ranked is fine, DotA is still light years, infinite light years away from LoL Joke Your head edit: also PL GAINED 6 base agility, not lost. double edit: I doubt we will get the patch this week, since it would be weird to have a new patch in the middle of a LAN tournament's finals. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On September 25 2014 16:23 TomatoBisque wrote: Joke Your head edit: also PL GAINED 6 base agility, not lost. yea misread. edited. It's still a net agi loss after 5 levels though. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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Sallek
Denmark17 Posts
http://www.dota2.com/rekindlingsoul/ | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6228 Posts
I've math'd the new networth changes onto the endstate of a game I just played. Someone correct me if I've done it wrong. It's a little crazy, to me. We're at a 26.5k networth difference. Scoreboard: + Show Spoiler + I was going to post this in the QQ thread (you can probably guess which hero I was) but I thought I'd make something useful out of it instead. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kyhO6wk.png) For killing each hero as of the end of the game, the total possible swings (for solokill to 5-man kill) are: Radiant example maths: + Show Spoiler +
Provided I haven't screwed something up, that's.... that's pretty insane. The losing team can trade 5 for 1-2 and come out even. At the very least, I feel the magic 30k rule is completely dead. Also notable is how valuable the dire supports are. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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