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SKC
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
again: Its obviously not a bug if he created a specific armlet implementation specifically for that singular corner case, that's called the solution to a previous bug. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
A bug in Dota 1 Cant link changelogs in LiquidDota it seems... Just look for 6.78 bug fixes in the PlayDota changelog. + Show Spoiler + * Fixed a bug with Call Down slow sometimes lasting too long * Fixed Call Down inaccurate tooltip * Fixed Echo Stomp stun sometimes ending too early * Fixed Ancients not having backdoor protection * Fixed the left range rax not upgrading the siege units properly for the Sentinel * Fixed the active component of Tranquil Boots being enabled on Illusions * Fixed an inconsistency with mana sharing on Tether * Fixed an issue with Primal Split's Level 2 Storm interaction with Smoke * Fixed Shadow Amulet not working when you are Magic Immune * Fixed Rod of Atos sell price * Fixed Smoke of Deceit not working on Familiars * Fixed suicides causing aoe bonus XP to be given out * Fixed attack speed with Armlet on Spirit Bear * Fixed level 3 Skeleton King Reincarnation scoreboard * Fixed Rupture sometimes remaining on you when you revive * Fixed a very minor damage inaccuracy with Eye of the Storm He can make a mistake when creating the item. Since noone tested it, since noone built armlet for the bear, it could be bugged. Its not impossible. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
E: or patching dota 1 to parity (yeah right) | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
Its not so much "fixing attack speed" as "removed courier armlet state". Thats fixing the discrepancies of dota1/2 I think you're misunderstanding the original dota1 interaction; he specifically created it, obviously it may have been a mistake to create it, but he actively made the choice of making armlet work differently on the spirit bear | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
The original interaction was that you could not activate it in the bear, if you gave it activated it gave you the damage, but it did not give you the attack speed. Not activated armlet gave both damage and attack speed. I know how it worked. He could have simply made a mistake with the attack speed portion when creating the item. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 05 2014 01:25 Sn0_Man wrote: When's valve fixing the bottle bullshit anyway :/ E: or patching dota 1 to parity (yeah right) Fountain regen works differently in DotA 1, so I don't even think it's possible for it to have the same behavior in DotA 1 thanks to how Bottle regen is based on fountain regen and not proximity to fountain in DotA 2. Yet another bug I'd consider to be based on negligence because someone coding the skill didn't realize how fountain regen and fountain distance aren't always going to be equivalent. And making DotA 2 consistent with DotA 1 in this regard is trivially easy compared to the reverse. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On September 05 2014 01:29 SKC wrote: He was OK with calling it a bug, even if you are not. The original interaction was that you could not activate it in the bear, if you gave it activated it gave you the damage, but it did not give you the attack speed. I know how it worked. He could have simply made a mistake with the attack speed portion when creating the item. again, any differences between dota1/dota2 is a bug, and fixing the bug in dota1 to adhere to dota2 behavior is fixing the bug I'm not talking about what the item did, but how it was coded in the dota1 engine To replicate the behavior he had to physically create an entirely different dummy armlet with a set of interactions; its not something done by accident. That armlet also differed in more than just attack speed with the hero armlet. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
fuck that hero. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I know it isn't, its rather avoiding the bottle-first noob trap and trying to nerf bottle-crowing mids in general after raising start gold | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On September 05 2014 01:36 Kipsate wrote: Tinker bugs are the most important one to fix and to be brought up to parity right now fuck that hero. Except IF already shows the Blink refresh damage CD to be intended (or whatever) since they hanged it in dota1. Yes I'm aware there are still the ancient bugs involved as well. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On September 05 2014 01:36 Kipsate wrote: Tinker bugs are the most important one to fix and to be brought up to parity right now Such as? IIRC the blink+rearm interaction was patched into dota 1... | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On September 05 2014 01:35 Kupon3ss wrote: again, any differences between dota1/dota2 is a bug, and fixing the bug in dota1 to adhere to dota2 behavior is fixing the bug I'm not talking about what the item did, but how it was coded in the dota1 engine To replicate the behavior he had to physically create an entirely different dummy armlet with a set of interactions; its not something done by accident. That armlet also differed in more than just attack speed with the hero armlet. And when he created the entirely diferent "Armlet of Mordiggian (Courier Edition)" (active one) (I00N) he for some reason made a mistake by forgetting the attack speed. Thats a bug. In a later patch, in the bugs section, he writes -fixed attack speed with armlet on bear. Dota 2/Dota 1 is completelly irrelevant in this case. I am only talking about what he did in Dota 1. | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On September 05 2014 01:38 Sn0_Man wrote: Such as? IIRC the blink+rearm interaction was patched into dota 1... March should block ancients from spawning and shouldn't hurt black dragons. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
- Tinker rearm refreshes Blink Dagger state | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
REVERT PLS | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Because we still have the parity issue of Refresher Orb + Blink heroes, which is still potentially relevant to heroes like Magnus or Tidehunter, because getting a 2nd Blink before your 2nd RP/Ravage could matter a lot. | ||
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