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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
September 04 2014 14:37 GMT
#127461
On September 04 2014 23:24 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 23:21 Dubzex wrote:
That is because they only post when you are sleeping.

ohoho!

but ye like i said they each have different lengths of time u can doj with

Most satisfying is LD though because while you're dodging the spell the bear will usually get an entangle under your tower
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 04 2014 14:41 GMT
#127462
i dont get dodging with LD, every time i try it it never works
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 04 2014 14:41 GMT
#127463
On September 04 2014 23:30 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 23:24 Targe wrote:
On September 04 2014 23:21 Dubzex wrote:
That is because they only post when you are sleeping.

ohoho!

but ye like i said they each have different lengths of time u can doj with

Yeah, my question was answered, which is that they all function the same way and can disjoint the same things. There is nothing that Naga can disjoint that CK can't or vice versa. The only difference is the amount of time you have to do it.

Which I believe matters for some spells. I'm not absolutely certain on this, but since some spells like Impale and Ravage don't stun all at once, it's very possible for you to get stunned by one of two different instances of it. It certainly matters for Avalanche, and depending on how you judge things, can very well matter for Mystic Flare as well (take off 350 damage at level 3).
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ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
September 04 2014 14:43 GMT
#127464
Lesson learned = don't bet on pinoys.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 14:46:11
September 04 2014 14:43 GMT
#127465
On September 04 2014 23:41 Targe wrote:
i dont get dodging with LD, every time i try it it never works

If you start your transformation when a standard projectile spell (e.g. Magic Missile) is still in the air, it'll fizzle instead of hitting you. The downside is, you end up being "stunned" for just as long, since you sit there for two seconds. It's mostly a damage dodge that hopefully leaves you more tanky.

If you want we can test it out in a private lobby or something.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 04 2014 14:47 GMT
#127466
the whole animation works?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 04 2014 14:48 GMT
#127467
There is some video there, either WTF Dota or Fails of the Week where a LD player dodges like 9 tinker rockets in the tinker's base because tinker is convince he can finish off LD. Its pretty amusing.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 04 2014 14:51 GMT
#127468
On September 04 2014 23:47 Targe wrote:
the whole animation works?

Yeah, you turn into a "different unit" the instant you activate the ability, which is what disjoints it. But if they cast WHILE you're transforming, it still lands okay.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 04 2014 14:56 GMT
#127469
oh.. i get it
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 04 2014 15:04 GMT
#127470
Can Ember and Storm disjoint things through their teleport abilities and slight of fist? I seem to remember a magic missile just chasing storm down, but he might have just reappeared at that time it hit.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 04 2014 15:05 GMT
#127471
Storm can disjoint completely. Ember can't even disjoint autoattacks, unless they hit in the middle of the animation.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 04 2014 15:05 GMT
#127472
storm is invulnerable during zip isnt he?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 15:07:56
September 04 2014 15:07 GMT
#127473
On September 05 2014 00:05 Acritter wrote:
Storm can disjoint completely. Ember can't even disjoint autoattacks, unless they hit in the middle of the animation.

Even with slight of fist? I thought his model didn't exist like Punk with jaunt.

Edit: Yeah, Magic missile might be a really bad example, since that projectile is so fast.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 15:08:54
September 04 2014 15:07 GMT
#127474
In DotA Allstars, it disjoints. DOTA2, it doesn't. That's what I recall, at least. There were a lot of people bitching about it after he was ported.

sleight* by the way, it's a word that we use only in conjunction with "of hand" these days, sort of like shrift and short
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 15:09:04
September 04 2014 15:08 GMT
#127475
hes saying u can doj if it hits whilst ur in slight of fist but it doesnt disjhoint

On September 05 2014 00:07 Acritter wrote:
In DotA Allstars, it disjoints. DOTA2, it doesn't. That's what I recall, at least. There were a lot of people bitching about it after he was ported.


meh invulnerability every 6 seconds is good enough as it is
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 04 2014 15:11 GMT
#127476
I agree. The issue was more that people wanted to play him as Storm or Puck, when there was a different "correct" way of playing him. Then people figured it out, he got nerfed, and people figured it out again. So it goes.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 04 2014 15:46 GMT
#127477
Tranformation spells dodging stuns is super bugged in DotA 2. Half of them don't even work at all, but the ones that do dodge the entire ability and not just the disabling component like they're supposed to.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 04 2014 15:49 GMT
#127478
tbh now you cant really think those things are bugs anymore because the game is being balanced around them
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 15:55:59
September 04 2014 15:55 GMT
#127479
They are bugs until Icefrog changes them in DotA 1 or makes a statement saying they are intended. Lack of a decision either way does not mean it's intended because Valve/Icefrog still fix bugs more frequently than they parity-change them back to DotA 1. Likewise, parity-changes in DotA 1 does not retroactively make all unannounced/unchanged differences intended.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 15:57:35
September 04 2014 15:55 GMT
#127480
You read my mind Targe. There is so much weird, fucked up shit that makes no sense(like dodging rockets by transforming back and forth from bear to man) that calling anything a "bug" that doesn't send me right to desk top seems weird. There are times I feel we are trying to glean the "artistic intent" of Icefrog with his creation.
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