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goody153
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Where there are gyro, Morphling and luna picks. Or weaver. Or Sf. Or even AM. This days well they are still picked from time to time. But heroes like DP and razor usually does more game impact in one click of a button. Even without items than the so called hard carries. And i don't see ratdota nowadays. It was obnoxious when it happened all the time but it's fun from time to time. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 04 2014 02:21 Comeh wrote: If we are talking about "stories" of TI, I think TI4 suffered from its format. Having such few number of games felt very anti-hype whne at the main event. It didn't really let a "story" develop. I think that was caused mostly by the venue and Valve having to adapt to a more limited time frame. I could be wrong, but that was the big X factor of TI4 and its likely what caused a lot of the problems with the format. I expect it to be better next year. On September 04 2014 02:21 TheYango wrote: You don't need fast, zippy heroes when everyone can be a fast, zippy hero for the low, low price of 2150 gold. Its almost like the buff of the dagger made the heroes that could move around the map without one less desirable. | ||
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goody153
44267 Posts
On September 04 2014 02:23 Plansix wrote: I think that was caused mostly by the venue and Valve having to adapt to a more limited time frame. I could be wrong, but that was the big X factor of TI4 and its likely what caused a lot of the problems with the format. I expect it to be better next year. and i hope they make it a B02 rather than B01. Beating a team twice seems less arguable which team is better that way. I mean more convincing. That it wasn't a fluke since some teams adapt after a game. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On September 04 2014 02:23 Plansix wrote: I think that was caused mostly by the venue and Valve having to adapt to a more limited time frame. I could be wrong, but that was the big X factor of TI4 and its likely what caused a lot of the problems with the format. I expect it to be better next year. Honestly, I don't see how the venue was a problem at all. Also the panel was awful this year Zyori tier. Felt like a waste of time. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 04 2014 02:28 Comeh wrote: Honestly, I don't see how the venue was a problem at all. Also the panel was awful this year Zyori tier. Felt like a waste of time. I think people underestimate how hard it is to work in a new venue of that size that valve has never worked in. The panels and stuff were passable. But really the reason every was bummed out was that the finals were a blow out, which happens sometimes(or all the time, seen GSL). | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On September 04 2014 02:33 Plansix wrote: I think people underestimate how hard it is to work in a new venue of that size that valve has never worked in. The panels and stuff were passable. But really the reason every was bummed out was that the finals were a blow out, which happens sometimes(or all the time, seen GSL). I wouldn't really say TI2 finals were that close. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
jk that idea sucks | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 04 2014 02:34 Comeh wrote: I wouldn't really say TI2 finals were that close. But they did have that fan favorite team, which always helps. I didn't watch those live, so I couldn't tell you what the X factor was. I mean, this even didn't have one huge moment like the naga, black hole turn around with rubick and jugg, but sometimes that happens. This stuff isn't scripted and you can't be sure those are going to happen. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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pedrlz
Brazil5234 Posts
I wouldn't mind if icefrog just change this | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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goody153
44267 Posts
grand finals games was a bit one-sided except game 5 though and it had the most hated team vs the team with the most fanbase grand finals On September 04 2014 02:44 pedrlz wrote: we need 6.82 because we need Earth, Legion, Phoenix and Terrorblade at captains mode I wouldn't mind if icefrog just change this no no no not that hero that hero just feels like another doombringer. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 04 2014 02:43 Shaella wrote: 'the play' wasn't in the grand finals at TI2 so i don't understand your argument there I was more talking about the event as a whole. The big play that I always see referenced in TI2(the NaVi turn around of the Naga sleep into Black hole combo) didn't even happen in the finals, if I remember correctly. I have never really heard anything amazing about the TI 2 finals or seen a single clip. But since it has been 2 years, people likely have just forgotten and gotten to the point where everything was better than the current year that was a blow out. That's how it always works with professional sports. On September 04 2014 02:46 Shaella wrote: it'd actually cause some pretty big changes simply because Legion and Phoenix are really strong against deathballs, and terrorblade is a monster splitpusher And LC is really good against anyone who summons units to push and has a ton of stuff to add to the laning phase. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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pedrlz
Brazil5234 Posts
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On September 04 2014 02:48 Plansix wrote: I was more talking about the event as a whole. The big play that I always see referenced in TI2(the NaVi turn around of the Naga sleep into Black hole combo) didn't even happen in the finals, if I remember correctly. I have never really heard anything amazing about the TI 2 finals or seen a single clip. ... u referenced the play directly in response to a post about the ti2 finals ur backtrackings hilarious | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On September 04 2014 02:52 kollin wrote: It's almost as if all of plansix's arguments and points regarding Dota are quite poorly thought out and uninformed http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/5/5e/Venm_death_11.mp3 | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 04 2014 02:57 Kraznaya wrote: ... u referenced the play directly in response to a post about the ti2 finals ur backtrackings hilarious Well were the TI2 finals anything amazing. Or more importantly, did anyone complain about them afterwords? Sadly, we don't have the ability to travel back in time on LD to the era of TI2 to see what people were saying. On September 04 2014 02:57 idonthinksobro wrote: http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/5/5e/Venm_death_11.mp3 Well played. | ||
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