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On November 18 2011 09:07 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 09:04 ilovelings wrote:
If you think about it, manta does not grant much survivability either when there is aoe damage. Manta gives you a reasonable bonuses though. That's why manta is a decent item.
My ideal AM build would be a Vanguard>Yasha>Bfury>Manta. The early yasha is beautiful. You're fucking Anti-Mage. Vanguard/Manta gives you PLENTY of HP considering you barely take damage from spells. And Manta is a great item because it synergizes with Anti-Mage so well from the stats, the mana burning illusions, to all the other small bonuses it gives. And that build is suboptimal. There is no reason to go Bfury if you went Vanguard first. You're just delaying Manta which is a core item on him if you don't rush Bfury first. Bfury is a tool that allows you to farm at insane speeds and gives you the sustain to do it. If you're going to pick up Bfury, you pick it up first after Treads/Red boots.
I understand that it's a little sub-optimal but I always choose personal preference over reason. Besides it helps me to tower dive if necesary or to survive if I get ganked ugly.
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Just curious, but what is the file size for dota 2 in its current build.
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On November 18 2011 09:16 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Just curious, but what is the file size for dota 2 in its current build.
It's 2776 Mb
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On November 18 2011 09:16 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Just curious, but what is the file size for dota 2 in its current build.
almost 2.8 GB about
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Hmm, it's kind of annoying how selecting your hero with a hotkey doesn't cancel pending spells, e.g. I'm skel king and I press 'T' for his stun, but without targeting anything, I can't cancel the red arrow by pressing '1' :\
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On November 18 2011 09:40 paper wrote:
Hmm, it's kind of annoying how selecting your hero with a hotkey doesn't cancel pending spells, e.g. I'm skel king and I press 'T' for his stun, but without targeting anything, I can't cancel the red arrow by pressing '1' :\
complain on dev forums
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Just out of curiosity, are they going to show enemy mana bars? It's really hard coming from from hon/lol to figure out how aggressive I can be at a glance because I can't see enemy mana bars (and when to use AM ultimate).
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On November 18 2011 09:48 Thermia wrote:
Just out of curiosity, are they going to show enemy mana bars? It's really hard coming from from hon/lol to figure out how aggressive I can be at a glance because I can't see enemy mana bars (and when to use AM ultimate).
no, its been discussed
you will have to click on them and check their mana.
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On November 18 2011 09:07 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 09:04 ilovelings wrote:
If you think about it, manta does not grant much survivability either when there is aoe damage. Manta gives you a reasonable bonuses though. That's why manta is a decent item.
My ideal AM build would be a Vanguard>Yasha>Bfury>Manta. The early yasha is beautiful. You're fucking Anti-Mage. Vanguard/Manta gives you PLENTY of HP considering you barely take damage from spells. And Manta is a great item because it synergizes with Anti-Mage so well from the stats, the mana burning illusions, to all the other small bonuses it gives. And that build is suboptimal. There is no reason to go Bfury if you went Vanguard first. You're just delaying Manta which is a core item on him if you don't rush Bfury first. Bfury is a tool that allows you to farm at insane speeds and gives you the sustain to do it. If you're going to pick up Bfury, you pick it up first after Treads/Red boots.
i play him the same, either bfury or vanguard first.
also after getting bfury i get s/y for hp instead of a vanguard.
what build i choose mostly depends on my early laning. if ive got a tough lane i always go vanguard first.. or at least get the ring and if it still doesnt change i get vanguard.
but this is a pub build, it works good but i dont know how it would translate into a more competitive atmosphere.
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I was just playing dota with friends and I saw a AM wih vanguard + radiance. He was not exactly killing everybody but he was very helpful because he disabled all then daggers.
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meh, not impressed with dota 2. nothing about it currently would make me want to play it over dota 1. i was hoping it would have no leavers (i'm sure it will be implemented), which was a main reason. but right now, it's just less heroes, and graphics that will take a while to get used to ( i personally don't like it) and only -ap or -cm (which gets boring when people play the same 15 heroes every game). this is coming from a former competitive dota player.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On November 18 2011 09:02 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 08:58 flamewheel wrote:
I never said it wasn't. I'm merely stating that it cannot be simply labeled as a "pub build".
Actually, I see your "or" now in the post I was addressing. Sorry I can't read! It's not a bad build, but you are committing heavily on Anti-Mage getting farmed. It basically ensures that the game will go late game, and that's not always a good idea especially if they picked strong midgame carry/push heroes like Sylla or Lycan. Going Vanguard/Manta always ensures good survivability AND a carry that can actually do something in the midgame. Rushing a Bfury isn't really always a good idea or optimal; just pointing that out. Yes AM gets farmed as hell, but he also is really vulnerable even past the 25-30 minute mark unless your tri-lane really dominated and let AM get every single CK for like 20 minutes.
Ahh well I play AM Chinese-style... Ignore team for 30 minutes and farm! Right now without the good pushers (and I don't see Enchantress or Chen too much) there's not much pressure early on to do something so I just stick to safe lane and jungle.
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On November 18 2011 18:39 akalarry wrote:
meh, not impressed with dota 2. nothing about it currently would make me want to play it over dota 1. i was hoping it would have no leavers (i'm sure it will be implemented), which was a main reason. but right now, it's just less heroes, and graphics that will take a while to get used to ( i personally don't like it) and only -ap or -cm (which gets boring when people play the same 15 heroes every game). this is coming from a former competitive dota player.
Fachhh?
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Netherlands45349 Posts
On November 18 2011 18:44 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 09:02 superstartran wrote:On November 18 2011 08:58 flamewheel wrote:
I never said it wasn't. I'm merely stating that it cannot be simply labeled as a "pub build".
Actually, I see your "or" now in the post I was addressing. Sorry I can't read! It's not a bad build, but you are committing heavily on Anti-Mage getting farmed. It basically ensures that the game will go late game, and that's not always a good idea especially if they picked strong midgame carry/push heroes like Sylla or Lycan. Going Vanguard/Manta always ensures good survivability AND a carry that can actually do something in the midgame. Rushing a Bfury isn't really always a good idea or optimal; just pointing that out. Yes AM gets farmed as hell, but he also is really vulnerable even past the 25-30 minute mark unless your tri-lane really dominated and let AM get every single CK for like 20 minutes. Ahh well I play AM Chinese-style... Ignore team for 3040minutes and allow my team to lose all towers up to tier 2 and farm! Right now without the good pushers (and I don't see Enchantress or Chen too much) there's not much pressure early on to do something so I just stick to safe lane and jungle.
T.T
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On November 18 2011 18:45 5-s wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 18:39 akalarry wrote:
meh, not impressed with dota 2. nothing about it currently would make me want to play it over dota 1. i was hoping it would have no leavers (i'm sure it will be implemented), which was a main reason. but right now, it's just less heroes, and graphics that will take a while to get used to ( i personally don't like it) and only -ap or -cm (which gets boring when people play the same 15 heroes every game). this is coming from a former competitive dota player. Fachhh?
nah lol
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On November 18 2011 18:49 Kipsate wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 18:44 flamewheel wrote:On November 18 2011 09:02 superstartran wrote:On November 18 2011 08:58 flamewheel wrote:
I never said it wasn't. I'm merely stating that it cannot be simply labeled as a "pub build".
Actually, I see your "or" now in the post I was addressing. Sorry I can't read! It's not a bad build, but you are committing heavily on Anti-Mage getting farmed. It basically ensures that the game will go late game, and that's not always a good idea especially if they picked strong midgame carry/push heroes like Sylla or Lycan. Going Vanguard/Manta always ensures good survivability AND a carry that can actually do something in the midgame. Rushing a Bfury isn't really always a good idea or optimal; just pointing that out. Yes AM gets farmed as hell, but he also is really vulnerable even past the 25-30 minute mark unless your tri-lane really dominated and let AM get every single CK for like 20 minutes. Ahh well I play AM Chinese-style... Ignore team for 3040minutes and allow my team to lose all towers up to tier 2 and farm! Right now without the good pushers (and I don't see Enchantress or Chen too much) there's not much pressure early on to do something so I just stick to safe lane and jungle. T.T
and then procede to rape everyone is where that continues, who needs t2 towers when you have a farmed antimage
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On November 18 2011 18:49 Kipsate wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 18:44 flamewheel wrote:On November 18 2011 09:02 superstartran wrote:On November 18 2011 08:58 flamewheel wrote:
I never said it wasn't. I'm merely stating that it cannot be simply labeled as a "pub build".
Actually, I see your "or" now in the post I was addressing. Sorry I can't read! It's not a bad build, but you are committing heavily on Anti-Mage getting farmed. It basically ensures that the game will go late game, and that's not always a good idea especially if they picked strong midgame carry/push heroes like Sylla or Lycan. Going Vanguard/Manta always ensures good survivability AND a carry that can actually do something in the midgame. Rushing a Bfury isn't really always a good idea or optimal; just pointing that out. Yes AM gets farmed as hell, but he also is really vulnerable even past the 25-30 minute mark unless your tri-lane really dominated and let AM get every single CK for like 20 minutes. Ahh well I play AM Chinese-style... Ignore team for 3040minutes and allow my team to lose all towers up to tier 2 and farm! Right now without the good pushers (and I don't see Enchantress or Chen too much) there's not much pressure early on to do something so I just stick to safe lane and jungle. T.T
BUT WE WON
Even though I can't last hit early game!
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Your chinese style AM forgave my el-oh-el bad skk. So all is forgiven for epic ricing. Not like K:D is tracked in Dota 2 beta anyways
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On November 18 2011 21:27 Zlasher wrote:
Your chinese style AM forgave my el-oh-el bad skk. So all is forgiven for epic ricing. Not like K:D is tracked in Dota 2 beta anyways
its shouldnt be anyway, then the games would go to shit cuz everyone would just ks all the time
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On November 18 2011 21:27 Zlasher wrote:
Your chinese style AM forgave my el-oh-el bad skk. So all is forgiven for epic ricing. Not like K:D is tracked in Dota 2 beta anyways
this is all for good.
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