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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 23 2012 04:57 GMT
#5441
On March 23 2012 13:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:
They should never came out with a hero performance rating because it's gonna end up complete bullshit. Whatever statistic you take into account won't be balanced around all heroes and roles, and KDA/GPM don't reflect skill at all. I'm 1-8 on my "best" hero lol. They should just give you raw stats and nothing else.


Ya my "best" hero is Ancient Apparition who the only time that I played him recently, we got raxed at like 18 minutes, and I just sat in the fountain throwing out ultimates.
Jieun <3
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
March 23 2012 05:01 GMT
#5442
The performance only seems to be since the shadow demon patch, as I have only a handful of bars
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
March 23 2012 05:04 GMT
#5443
Well I just played two of the baller-est Chen games of my life and my bar on him is nearly maxed so fuck yea! Nothing like a 12 min mek and then solo killing the opposing Lycan.

Tbh though, I think the hero performance thing is a little odd. It seems like it takes stats all across the board of different players at your skill level playing that specific hero then find where you lie. So I guess it can kind of give you an idea. I think it has some truth to it though, my sand king win rate is over 75% and my windrunner is about 30% but my windrunner (my better hero) bar is higher than my sandking bar. I think if they work with it, it will be a cool way to measure yourself.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 05:23:55
March 23 2012 05:23 GMT
#5444
Enchantress, VS, and POTM are my best heroes according to the graph, which seems pretty accurate. My top 3 heroes only reach the second line though, I'm so trash lololol. My worst hero is Chen and it's only a few pixels less than my Enchantress. It's gonna be fun watching it evolve, whether it's actually a good representation or not.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 23 2012 05:56 GMT
#5445
I hope they add a bunch of stats and stuff in your profile, not because it means anything, but just because I like to look at stats.

I had a questions regarding QB. I random almost all of my games, so if I random a melee carry that extra gold is usually spent on a QB... Is it a bad habit to get used to last hitting with quelling blade, and if im trying to get better at the game should I just consider skipping it?
Jieun <3
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 23 2012 06:01 GMT
#5446
No, it's not a bad item. Last hitting is relative to your skill as well as your opponents because of denying and harassment. It's just as useful to a good player as to a bad player.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12088 Posts
March 23 2012 06:01 GMT
#5447
On March 23 2012 14:56 PHILtheTANK wrote:
I hope they add a bunch of stats and stuff in your profile, not because it means anything, but just because I like to look at stats.

I had a questions regarding QB. I random almost all of my games, so if I random a melee carry that extra gold is usually spent on a QB... Is it a bad habit to get used to last hitting with quelling blade, and if im trying to get better at the game should I just consider skipping it?


Depends on what role you want to learn. If you want to play a hard carry player you could keep it. If you plan to play semi or below I would skip it since you will be forced to use the money on other stuff due to lacking 2 supports on your lane.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 23 2012 06:20 GMT
#5448
I'd consider myself decent at last hitting i guess, but sometimes if I don't have a QB I have some really shitty starts, I think maybe just too used to always having it.... or maybe i jsut need to get it 100% of the time im playing melee carry lol.
Jieun <3
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 07:56:31
March 23 2012 07:55 GMT
#5449
On March 23 2012 14:56 PHILtheTANK wrote:
I had a questions regarding QB. I random almost all of my games, so if I random a melee carry that extra gold is usually spent on a QB... Is it a bad habit to get used to last hitting with quelling blade, and if im trying to get better at the game should I just consider skipping it?

Honestly, I don't think that QB is the best use of that random gold.

Consider that randoming means that you have a 250 gold advantage, that lets you buy something that gives you the potential to crush your lane--something that gives you more stats or MS or something to bully the enemy laner around. Such items are often also going to make lasthitting easier for you anyway by giving you more stats. Stuff to consider: Poor Man's Shield, Gauntlets/Bracer, Boots.
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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 23 2012 08:09 GMT
#5450
On March 23 2012 16:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 14:56 PHILtheTANK wrote:
I had a questions regarding QB. I random almost all of my games, so if I random a melee carry that extra gold is usually spent on a QB... Is it a bad habit to get used to last hitting with quelling blade, and if im trying to get better at the game should I just consider skipping it?

Honestly, I don't think that QB is the best use of that random gold.

Consider that randoming means that you have a 250 gold advantage, that lets you buy something that gives you the potential to crush your lane--something that gives you more stats or MS or something to bully the enemy laner around. Such items are often also going to make lasthitting easier for you anyway by giving you more stats. Stuff to consider: Poor Man's Shield, Gauntlets/Bracer, Boots.


Hmm im never really sure what to start with. If playing a farming melee carry that I want to get PMS on(AM/Void/etc, depending on what ill be laning against) i usually start with QB, stout shield, 1x slipper of agility, 2x tangos. And if iim planning on going vanguard, i.e. spectre, I usually start with QB, stout shield, 2x tango, 3x branches. This is all with random gold of course. Should I be changing my starting items?
Jieun <3
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
March 23 2012 09:05 GMT
#5451
If you have random gold I think getting QB is fine, it does allow you to "crush" the lane somewhat, because you can last hit really well and you can still afford the stout because of the extra gold.

I think your starting items are fine, consider mixing in 1xtango, 1xsalve instead is the only other thing I would say.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
March 23 2012 09:14 GMT
#5452
does anyone know what this performance thing is ?

because i have like a very high win% with krob and I have no bars and Im 10-10 with tinker and I have max bars, what does it take into account and why did they implement this ?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 23 2012 09:16 GMT
#5453
My favorite build when randoming is 3x circlet 1x primary stat item 1x branch and 1x tangos but that might just be me >_> Probably not good on melee though, I'd probably go PMS with salve or something.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 23 2012 09:18 GMT
#5454
randoming the support hero you want to play is the greatest thing in the world.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
March 23 2012 09:37 GMT
#5455
Apperently my 6-1 Beast master warrants no bars while my 0-3 puck is my 3rd highest rated hero? I'm terrible with Puck O.O
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
DBHErazor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden181 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 10:25:34
March 23 2012 10:18 GMT
#5456
Nvm, im retarded =)
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 23 2012 10:20 GMT
#5457
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

I guess you're on test client friend
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Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
March 23 2012 10:26 GMT
#5458
I've been having a weird graphics issue since the last patch, the game seems be on like ultra low settings or something, but in the menu's i'm set to high textures and so on with my max resolution, 'tis really annoying
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9045 Posts
March 23 2012 10:31 GMT
#5459
I'm glad to see them putting importance on the bots side. Maybe they'll be good enough someday.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 23 2012 10:32 GMT
#5460
random money ownz
best random sets:
bottle + 3 branch + tango (or manapot or extra branch)
tango/hppot + 3 branch + boots
tango/hppot + 3 branch + ring of basilius
tango/hppot + 3 branch + wraith band
2 tango + 3 branch + null talisman
courier + wards + 2 tango + 2 mppot + 2 branch + smoke

or u can rock some
soul ring + branch enigma
5 spiderman feet + tango sniper
5 fists of power + tango huskar
qb + hatchet + 3 tango + hppot spectre or am or void
bottle + 5 mana pots zeuz
qb + pms + branch bloodseeker (this is actually the only real bloodseeker build cus who picks that hero rofl)

high quality tested and proven builds
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