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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
March 19 2012 23:31 GMT
#5081
On March 20 2012 07:46 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 06:25 Esoterikk wrote:
MVP starting LoL team, I wonder if the same thing is going to end up happening with Dota 2 later on down the road or if korea will go completely LoL.

the thing is DotA has never been a big game in korea... the only noticeable team was chu and his meepo and he is play HoN now? (actually i saw his steam account on HyHy friendlist while he stream).

The point is, it doesnt matter if korean picking up LoL or dota2, they have never been good at it. DotA market is China > EU ~= SEA > rest... and im not seeing that changing anytime soon.,


Might not be the same chu, I saw a 'chu' while MMing in SEA, looked at his Steam profile and he was from the Phillipines.
ffxiv enjoyer
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 19 2012 23:53 GMT
#5082
chu played Dota2 for like 2 days VERY early on in beta (before NDA was removed) and he gave his account away to his friend who's name skips my mind. That guy doesn't really play much either. Chu hasn't played Dota2 since, a lot of people make fake names lol its Steam, you can change your name non stop seeing someone named EG.DeMoN doesn't mean you're playing Demon, or better example, Dendimon, there must be 50 of those.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 00:06:26
March 20 2012 00:02 GMT
#5083
On March 20 2012 08:53 Zlasher wrote:
chu played Dota2 for like 2 days VERY early on in beta (before NDA was removed) and he gave his account away to his friend who's name skips my mind. That guy doesn't really play much either. Chu hasn't played Dota2 since, a lot of people make fake names lol its Steam, you can change your name non stop seeing someone named EG.DeMoN doesn't mean you're playing Demon, or better example, Dendimon, there must be 50 of those.

yeah i know about fake name but it was on Hyhy friend list so there is a high chance... Btw i played with 2gd today and his account has EXP........ @_@ He must got it pretty early on eh?

tip of the day: playing axe jungle, you should start with transquil boot and buy a point booster. since both transquil AND mana boot are disassemble-able items, you can switch between them to get both HP and mana for battle hunger.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
March 20 2012 00:05 GMT
#5084
idk, i like pepsi better although I stopped drinking soft drinks altogether. they hurt my throat now.
RaiD.RaynoR
Profile Joined February 2012
United States294 Posts
March 20 2012 00:11 GMT
#5085
dota is a game of power. and with great power comes great responsibility.
Redemption is the consequence of forgiveness
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
March 20 2012 00:16 GMT
#5086
On March 20 2012 08:26 justinpal wrote:
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On March 20 2012 08:17 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On March 20 2012 08:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:
The best way is to release dota 2 in the pc bangs and have it be very accessible. No one gives a shit about a tournament for a game they don't play or have never played. LoL will always look better to a person who's only played LoL and when all their friends play LoL. LoL is getting a lot of attention in korea right now while dota gets literally 0. I foresee korea being primarily LoL based in the future bar the game itself completely dying (won't happen, stop dreaming).

I think in the end this whole thing is gonna end up being Pepsi vs. Coke. You choose one or the other, but both are quite popular.


And just like in Pepsi vs Coke there is a clear winner. Dota + Coke! How anybody could like pepsi more than coke is beyond me.


Yeah there is no debate. Coke > Pepsi. But, LoL and Dota are apples and oranges.


Coke = Oranges > Apples = LoL

everyone knows that, duh.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 20 2012 00:18 GMT
#5087
On March 20 2012 09:05 Whole wrote:
idk, i like pepsi better although I stopped drinking soft drinks altogether. they hurt my throat now.



You disgust me.
Jieun <3
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
March 20 2012 00:25 GMT
#5088
On March 20 2012 09:18 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 09:05 Whole wrote:
idk, i like pepsi better although I stopped drinking soft drinks altogether. they hurt my throat now.



You disgust me.

but Dr. Pepper is better than both
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 20 2012 00:35 GMT
#5089
Coke>>Pepsi

just saying.
WriterXiao8~~
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
March 20 2012 00:38 GMT
#5090
Coke and Pepsi both taste terrible
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 20 2012 00:51 GMT
#5091
On March 20 2012 09:25 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 09:18 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:05 Whole wrote:
idk, i like pepsi better although I stopped drinking soft drinks altogether. they hurt my throat now.



You disgust me.

but Dr. Pepper is better than both


Ya Dr. Pepper is awesome. Tom Tucker Mint Ginger Ale is where its at.....
Jieun <3
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
March 20 2012 00:52 GMT
#5092
Screw you all, I'm thirsty now
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
March 20 2012 01:01 GMT
#5093
So....uhhhhhh...... like back on topic or something. I'm excited for the entrance of the Chinese teams into Dota2, will give some stiff competition. I just wish Valve would start advertising a bit in Korea to compete with LoL, a huge market to leave unnoticed.

NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 20 2012 01:14 GMT
#5094
On March 20 2012 10:01 Slardar wrote:
So....uhhhhhh...... like back on topic or something. I'm excited for the entrance of the Chinese teams into Dota2, will give some stiff competition. I just wish Valve would start advertising a bit in Korea to compete with LoL, a huge market to leave unnoticed.


no...... look at what blizzard tried to do to sc2 and see it fail. One do not simply advertise a game and make it famous in korea. Currently Riot made a deal with KeSPA which make things even more complicated if valve step in. In my opinion the Korean market has never been and will never be worth while to advertise moba title. The only advantage they have compare to chinese and SEA is that they have infrastructure and a developed gaming culture, other than that they have never compete in the dota1 competitive scene which mean that the country itself most likely wont like the game since they will never win at it.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
March 20 2012 01:34 GMT
#5095
On March 20 2012 10:01 Slardar wrote:
So....uhhhhhh...... like back on topic or something. I'm excited for the entrance of the Chinese teams into Dota2, will give some stiff competition. I just wish Valve would start advertising a bit in Korea to compete with LoL, a huge market to leave unnoticed.



I feel the same way. To me, it is the same way I feel with Sc2 as well. Waiting and hoping for the next "big" person moves over. When more people move over to DotA 2, it will only become ever larger and popular.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 20 2012 01:54 GMT
#5096
On March 20 2012 06:51 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 05:14 Zlasher wrote:
Speaking of ice wall, some of invokers spells go through BKB/Naix Rage like Ice Wall and Deafening blast. Is this supposed to be the case?

iirc there was some nerf to invoker so icewall didnt go through magic immunity anymore, i dont really remember though

Ice wall works if you're already affected and pop BKB or rage for sure, it doesn't dispel the debuff and you take the full slow.
I think if you're immune before entering icewall you won't be affected (not 100% sure of that, but 100% sure of the first sentence)
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
March 20 2012 03:35 GMT
#5097
koreans never really played even dota 1, it's a saturated market now. valve would be wise to invest their resources in china.
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 20 2012 05:15 GMT
#5098
yo i have a genius idea
someone should make a recommended dota vods thread
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
March 20 2012 07:18 GMT
#5099
So realistically and try to keep the bias of which game you prefer out of this, how big do you think the dota 2 scene will get in lieu of the already exploding LoL scene? I mean the game itself is amazing and from my bias point of view I think it will explode to but I honestly haven't really followed the scene long enough to know if it's going to have what it takes to be big along side a power house like LoL mainly with riot funding.

Here's to hoping Valve gives out a shit load of keys in the near future to garner more growth.
danielimotbh
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada130 Posts
March 20 2012 07:26 GMT
#5100
On March 20 2012 16:18 Esoterikk wrote:
So realistically and try to keep the bias of which game you prefer out of this, how big do you think the dota 2 scene will get in lieu of the already exploding LoL scene? I mean the game itself is amazing and from my bias point of view I think it will explode to but I honestly haven't really followed the scene long enough to know if it's going to have what it takes to be big along side a power house like LoL mainly with riot funding.

Here's to hoping Valve gives out a shit load of keys in the near future to garner more growth.


Well, if I recall correctly, one of the grand finals recently (think it was DignitasCup or The Defense) attracted 30,000 viewers. This is pretty big considering this game is still in beta.

You have to include other factors into the mix when comparing with LoL:

- LoL's F2P model attracted more initial players which explains its vastly greater playerbase.
- Continuous growth of LoL over the course of 2 odd years or so compared to DotA 2's half a year
- How many more players DotA2 will bring in once the Chinese teams start picking it up and bringing with them the Chinese viewers
- DotA2's total playerbase once the game is fully functional with all heroes implemented and what not

LoL has game accounts in the millions (IIRC it surpassed WoW's playerbase of 14 million or something not too long ago), but take this with a grain of salt because there can still be multiple account holders and what not. A % of that playerbase will actively watch competitive LoL games, so in comparison to a fully functioning and operating DotA2, I too would still think LoL's scene would be much bigger. That doesn't mean DotA2's will be insignifcant though, if anything it will easily be the opposing contender to LoL in this genre.
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