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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
March 19 2012 20:24 GMT
#5061
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=24805

?
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
March 19 2012 20:34 GMT
#5062
deafening blast is meant to go through bkb and similar immunities, it's invoker's 'ult'
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 19 2012 20:47 GMT
#5063
On March 20 2012 05:34 Antoine wrote:
deafening blast is meant to go through bkb and similar immunities, it's invoker's 'ult'

No, magic immunity is supposed to prevent the Disarm effect of Deafening Blast. It works this way in DotA 1, as Deafening Blast's disarm is coded based on Drunken Haze.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 19 2012 20:54 GMT
#5064
On March 20 2012 05:34 Antoine wrote:
deafening blast is meant to go through bkb and similar immunities, it's invoker's 'ult'

no....... invoker has 1 ulti and its invoke -_-
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
March 19 2012 20:58 GMT
#5065
On March 20 2012 05:47 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 05:34 Antoine wrote:
deafening blast is meant to go through bkb and similar immunities, it's invoker's 'ult'

No, magic immunity is supposed to prevent the Disarm effect of Deafening Blast. It works this way in DotA 1, as Deafening Blast's disarm is coded based on Drunken Haze.

i assumed he was talking about the knockback.
On March 20 2012 05:54 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 05:34 Antoine wrote:
deafening blast is meant to go through bkb and similar immunities, it's invoker's 'ult'

no....... invoker has 1 ulti and its invoke -_-

obviously i don't mean literally, that's why i put the ''s
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 19 2012 21:12 GMT
#5066
just check joindota calendar, CLG vs darer tmr gona be big
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
March 19 2012 21:25 GMT
#5067
MVP starting LoL team, I wonder if the same thing is going to end up happening with Dota 2 later on down the road or if korea will go completely LoL.
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
March 19 2012 21:32 GMT
#5068
they played GunZ : the Duel on TV in Korea, so I woulnd't expect LoL to have a lasting impact.

this is of course assuming DotA 2 has to continue competing against Nada's body.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 19 2012 21:51 GMT
#5069
On March 20 2012 05:14 Zlasher wrote:
Speaking of ice wall, some of invokers spells go through BKB/Naix Rage like Ice Wall and Deafening blast. Is this supposed to be the case?

iirc there was some nerf to invoker so icewall didnt go through magic immunity anymore, i dont really remember though
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 19 2012 22:44 GMT
#5070
On March 20 2012 06:25 Esoterikk wrote:
MVP starting LoL team, I wonder if the same thing is going to end up happening with Dota 2 later on down the road or if korea will go completely LoL.

Honestly, there is no scene in Korea so there is no ROI for them to consider it. As much as we wish Dota2 to be more global, and as enormous as it will be, it won't be in Korea's plans any time soon, LoL is their drug of choice right now.

On March 20 2012 06:51 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 05:14 Zlasher wrote:
Speaking of ice wall, some of invokers spells go through BKB/Naix Rage like Ice Wall and Deafening blast. Is this supposed to be the case?

iirc there was some nerf to invoker so icewall didnt go through magic immunity anymore, i dont really remember though


Welp, the coders dun goof'd then.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 19 2012 22:46 GMT
#5071
On March 20 2012 06:25 Esoterikk wrote:
MVP starting LoL team, I wonder if the same thing is going to end up happening with Dota 2 later on down the road or if korea will go completely LoL.

the thing is DotA has never been a big game in korea... the only noticeable team was chu and his meepo and he is play HoN now? (actually i saw his steam account on HyHy friendlist while he stream).

The point is, it doesnt matter if korean picking up LoL or dota2, they have never been good at it. DotA market is China > EU ~= SEA > rest... and im not seeing that changing anytime soon.,
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
March 19 2012 22:47 GMT
#5072
On March 20 2012 07:44 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 06:25 Esoterikk wrote:
MVP starting LoL team, I wonder if the same thing is going to end up happening with Dota 2 later on down the road or if korea will go completely LoL.

Honestly, there is no scene in Korea so there is no ROI for them to consider it. As much as we wish Dota2 to be more global, and as enormous as it will be, it won't be in Korea's plans any time soon, LoL is their drug of choice right now.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 06:51 rabidch wrote:
On March 20 2012 05:14 Zlasher wrote:
Speaking of ice wall, some of invokers spells go through BKB/Naix Rage like Ice Wall and Deafening blast. Is this supposed to be the case?

iirc there was some nerf to invoker so icewall didnt go through magic immunity anymore, i dont really remember though


Welp, the coders dun goof'd then.


Moba is Moba! I could see a hypothetical switch from LoL to Dota2. Or maybe that is just what I hope.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
March 19 2012 22:52 GMT
#5073
On March 20 2012 06:51 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 05:14 Zlasher wrote:
Speaking of ice wall, some of invokers spells go through BKB/Naix Rage like Ice Wall and Deafening blast. Is this supposed to be the case?

iirc there was some nerf to invoker so icewall didnt go through magic immunity anymore, i dont really remember though


On March 20 2012 05:24 Ack1027 wrote:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=24805

?

rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 19 2012 22:54 GMT
#5074
On March 20 2012 07:52 Ack1027 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 06:51 rabidch wrote:
On March 20 2012 05:14 Zlasher wrote:
Speaking of ice wall, some of invokers spells go through BKB/Naix Rage like Ice Wall and Deafening blast. Is this supposed to be the case?

iirc there was some nerf to invoker so icewall didnt go through magic immunity anymore, i dont really remember though


Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 05:24 Ack1027 wrote:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=24805

?


you are clearly asking too much from me...
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 19 2012 22:55 GMT
#5075
On March 20 2012 07:47 Slardar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 07:44 Zlasher wrote:
On March 20 2012 06:25 Esoterikk wrote:
MVP starting LoL team, I wonder if the same thing is going to end up happening with Dota 2 later on down the road or if korea will go completely LoL.

Honestly, there is no scene in Korea so there is no ROI for them to consider it. As much as we wish Dota2 to be more global, and as enormous as it will be, it won't be in Korea's plans any time soon, LoL is their drug of choice right now.

On March 20 2012 06:51 rabidch wrote:
On March 20 2012 05:14 Zlasher wrote:
Speaking of ice wall, some of invokers spells go through BKB/Naix Rage like Ice Wall and Deafening blast. Is this supposed to be the case?

iirc there was some nerf to invoker so icewall didnt go through magic immunity anymore, i dont really remember though


Welp, the coders dun goof'd then.


Moba is Moba! I could see a hypothetical switch from LoL to Dota2. Or maybe that is just what I hope.

well the only way im seeing how it gona work is dota 2 got released -> tournament will have to pick it up instead of LoL bc valve could easily pressure them with CS:go coming up (Carmac actually hinted this during most of his interview about LoL vs DotA2) -> dota2 take over EU -> take over US -> take over the world.

But for that to happen you need to be god damn evil and work at valve... the plan could be carried out approximately 2 years after the game is officially released.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 19 2012 23:06 GMT
#5076
Yeah but in other interviews IEM people have said that they have no intention on having an EPS or adding Dota2 to their league BECAUSE they have and love LoL on their circuit.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 23:12:17
March 19 2012 23:10 GMT
#5077
The best way is to release dota 2 in the pc bangs and have it be very accessible. No one gives a shit about a tournament for a game they don't play or have never played. LoL will always look better to a person who's only played LoL and when all their friends play LoL. LoL is getting a lot of attention in korea right now while dota gets literally 0. I foresee korea being primarily LoL based in the future bar the game itself completely dying (won't happen, stop dreaming).

I think in the end this whole thing is gonna end up being Pepsi vs. Coke. You choose one or the other, but both are quite popular.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 19 2012 23:15 GMT
#5078
On March 20 2012 07:46 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 06:25 Esoterikk wrote:
MVP starting LoL team, I wonder if the same thing is going to end up happening with Dota 2 later on down the road or if korea will go completely LoL.

the thing is DotA has never been a big game in korea... the only noticeable team was chu and his meepo and he is play HoN now? (actually i saw his steam account on HyHy friendlist while he stream).

The point is, it doesnt matter if korean picking up LoL or dota2, they have never been good at it. DotA market is China > EU ~= SEA > rest... and im not seeing that changing anytime soon.,

No, chu actually plays LoL fulltime now rofl and streams. Not pro team though.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 19 2012 23:17 GMT
#5079
On March 20 2012 08:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:
The best way is to release dota 2 in the pc bangs and have it be very accessible. No one gives a shit about a tournament for a game they don't play or have never played. LoL will always look better to a person who's only played LoL and when all their friends play LoL. LoL is getting a lot of attention in korea right now while dota gets literally 0. I foresee korea being primarily LoL based in the future bar the game itself completely dying (won't happen, stop dreaming).

I think in the end this whole thing is gonna end up being Pepsi vs. Coke. You choose one or the other, but both are quite popular.


And just like in Pepsi vs Coke there is a clear winner. Dota + Coke! How anybody could like pepsi more than coke is beyond me.
Jieun <3
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
March 19 2012 23:26 GMT
#5080
On March 20 2012 08:17 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 08:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:
The best way is to release dota 2 in the pc bangs and have it be very accessible. No one gives a shit about a tournament for a game they don't play or have never played. LoL will always look better to a person who's only played LoL and when all their friends play LoL. LoL is getting a lot of attention in korea right now while dota gets literally 0. I foresee korea being primarily LoL based in the future bar the game itself completely dying (won't happen, stop dreaming).

I think in the end this whole thing is gonna end up being Pepsi vs. Coke. You choose one or the other, but both are quite popular.


And just like in Pepsi vs Coke there is a clear winner. Dota + Coke! How anybody could like pepsi more than coke is beyond me.


Yeah there is no debate. Coke > Pepsi. But, LoL and Dota are apples and oranges.
Never make a hydralisk.
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