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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 14:57:10
March 20 2012 14:56 GMT
#5121
On March 20 2012 16:18 Esoterikk wrote:
So realistically and try to keep the bias of which game you prefer out of this, how big do you think the dota 2 scene will get in lieu of the already exploding LoL scene? I mean the game itself is amazing and from my bias point of view I think it will explode to but I honestly haven't really followed the scene long enough to know if it's going to have what it takes to be big along side a power house like LoL mainly with riot funding.

Here's to hoping Valve gives out a shit load of keys in the near future to garner more growth.


It'll be big and separate from LoL. Just because LoL exists doesn't mean Dota2 will be non existant, but I don't think Dota2 can surpass LoL at this point unless Valve pulls a Riot and outbids Riot on all the leagues.

On March 20 2012 16:26 danielimotbh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 16:18 Esoterikk wrote:
So realistically and try to keep the bias of which game you prefer out of this, how big do you think the dota 2 scene will get in lieu of the already exploding LoL scene? I mean the game itself is amazing and from my bias point of view I think it will explode to but I honestly haven't really followed the scene long enough to know if it's going to have what it takes to be big along side a power house like LoL mainly with riot funding.

Here's to hoping Valve gives out a shit load of keys in the near future to garner more growth.


Well, if I recall correctly, one of the grand finals recently (think it was DignitasCup or The Defense) attracted 30,000 viewers. This is pretty big considering this game is still in beta.

You have to include other factors into the mix when comparing with LoL:

- LoL's F2P model attracted more initial players which explains its vastly greater playerbase.
- Continuous growth of LoL over the course of 2 odd years or so compared to DotA 2's half a year
- How many more players DotA2 will bring in once the Chinese teams start picking it up and bringing with them the Chinese viewers
- DotA2's total playerbase once the game is fully functional with all heroes implemented and what not

LoL has game accounts in the millions (IIRC it surpassed WoW's playerbase of 14 million or something not too long ago), but take this with a grain of salt because there can still be multiple account holders and what not. A % of that playerbase will actively watch competitive LoL games, so in comparison to a fully functioning and operating DotA2, I too would still think LoL's scene would be much bigger. That doesn't mean DotA2's will be insignifcant though, if anything it will easily be the opposing contender to LoL in this genre.


It was like 48k if you combine all the different language streams. Tobi's stream alone was like 35k.
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sraelgaiznaer
Profile Joined October 2010
Philippines423 Posts
March 20 2012 14:57 GMT
#5122
lol Link and Dendi both streaming and in the same party. first time i saw this. :D
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
March 20 2012 14:59 GMT
#5123
On March 20 2012 23:57 sraelgaiznaer wrote:
lol Link and Dendi both streaming and in the same party. first time i saw this. :D


Trixi went 27-4 with riki 6k in bank with abyssal, vlad, manta, aegis, treads and wand. Cool game to watch.
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Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
March 20 2012 15:03 GMT
#5124
Planning on playing a fair bit of DotA2 this weekend since I'm heading home and that's where I left my PC for the term. I've only played about 50 games total so far using Lich, Tide, WR, and AM as well as a few random picks that I was struggled with for the most part (Jugger, Axe, Nightstalker, AA).

Anyway, I really enjoyed WR (Jugger and AA were pretty fun too) the most but I wouldn't mind dedicating 5-10 games with another hero so I have another hero I'm not entirely mediocore with. Any suggestions given my appreciation for WR?

I was thinking Shadow Shaman, Puck, or Weaver.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 15:19:20
March 20 2012 15:18 GMT
#5125
If you enjoy WR Mirana is a hero very frequently compared to her as they run similar roles in lane frequently. (Mirana is better lategame but WR can fulfill more roles, ie support or solo or even mid). Mirana tends to be more of a solo or mid, or trilane farmer.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
March 20 2012 15:22 GMT
#5126
Drow is the other bow hero besides mirana, but drow is different that she's a hardhitter carry, so may not be as fun to play as wr or mirana since she needs more farm to be effective, but you could go lothars and gank with her in pubs
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 15:26:32
March 20 2012 15:25 GMT
#5127
screw those bow bitches, acquire guns(sniper) and daggers(riki, BH) and fuck them like a BAW

remember:
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EVERYONE RUN FASTER WITH A KNIFE


edit: another bow bitch is clinkz FYI
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 20 2012 15:28 GMT
#5128
Shadow demon also has many different roles.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 20 2012 16:13 GMT
#5129
aL vs mTw starting here http://www.twitch.tv/itsgosu_dota2
eSahara vs NEXT.kz here http://www.twitch.tv/ggnetpurge
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 20 2012 16:17 GMT
#5130
And mTw is down 0-4 before the creeps spawn ><
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
March 20 2012 16:38 GMT
#5131
Sing just used Bat's ult to kill a flying courier

I am so amazed that I have never considered that
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 20 2012 16:40 GMT
#5132
On March 21 2012 01:38 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Sing just used Bat's ult to kill a flying courier

I am so amazed that I have never considered that

Well, BM ulti was used to get the FTD's courier with ZSMJ's Relic at SMM 09.

Same deal, really.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 20 2012 16:41 GMT
#5133
On March 21 2012 01:40 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 01:38 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Sing just used Bat's ult to kill a flying courier

I am so amazed that I have never considered that

Well, BM ulti was used to get the FTD's courier with ZSMJ's Relic at SMM 09.

Same deal, really.

it's too easy to kill them these days :/
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 20 2012 16:43 GMT
#5134
btw, when was courier immune active removed ?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 20 2012 16:45 GMT
#5135
On March 21 2012 01:43 MrCon wrote:
btw, when was courier immune active removed ?

version 6.73.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 20 2012 16:46 GMT
#5136
On March 21 2012 01:45 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 01:43 MrCon wrote:
btw, when was courier immune active removed ?

version 6.73.

Thanks. When I started playing dota 2, I thought it was not yet implemented :D
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 20 2012 16:54 GMT
#5137
And mTw AGAIN loses 3 heroes for nil before creep spawn...
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 20 2012 16:55 GMT
#5138
It's pretty difficult to be a fan of synderen as I think mTw's lost the last ~28 tournament games I've seen them play, and this one starting very much the same way
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 20 2012 17:07 GMT
#5139
Maybe they will do the same as quantic, get rid of synd and start winning
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
March 20 2012 17:19 GMT
#5140
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