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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 11 2012 03:52 GMT
#3981
On March 11 2012 12:50 TicketoHELL wrote:
i just got into dota 2
where can i find item and skill builds for heroes?

You should just ask here in my opinion. There's this:
http://www.playdota.com/guides/vals-pretty-guide-to-every-hero

But it's outdated and suboptimal. It even says that they're just general builds that work in most situations, but usually aren't the best.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
PromisE
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Philippines151 Posts
March 11 2012 03:59 GMT
#3982
I immediately played Ogre Magi when I read his changelog.


-Added Aghamin's Scepter
Gives his other head the ability to cast a more primitive version of Fireblast. It has a constant (not modified by ultimate/level) 275 damage, 1.5 second stun, 20 cooldown, 400 manacost. It can trigger multicast. This is an independent 5th skill added to his ability card.


Consecutive 3x fireblasts are the best things ever.
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
March 11 2012 04:09 GMT
#3983
On March 11 2012 12:59 PromisE wrote:
I immediately played Ogre Magi when I read his changelog.

Show nested quote +

-Added Aghamin's Scepter
Gives his other head the ability to cast a more primitive version of Fireblast. It has a constant (not modified by ultimate/level) 275 damage, 1.5 second stun, 20 cooldown, 400 manacost. It can trigger multicast. This is an independent 5th skill added to his ability card.


Consecutive 3x fireblasts are the best things ever.


I can't wait until they add him to dota 2. My fav hero by far to play in pubs.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
March 11 2012 04:24 GMT
#3984
On March 11 2012 12:50 TicketoHELL wrote:
i just got into dota 2
where can i find item and skill builds for heroes?


The 5's guide to every hero here on TL is a pretty decent thread for telling you the bare minimum basics of what to do, especially skill builds if you have absolutely no idea what you're doing. However, item builds are completely dependent on the situation. If you're entirely new to DotA as a whole, I recommend watching:



to get an idea of what items do.

And a good video for your initial 600 gold

PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 11 2012 06:02 GMT
#3985
Man after watching some pros stream tinker I thought hed be super fun to play... hes not at all lol. Just spend 90% of the match TPing. Definitely not my style
Jieun <3
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 11 2012 06:40 GMT
#3986
On March 11 2012 15:02 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Man after watching some pros stream tinker I thought hed be super fun to play... hes not at all lol. Just spend 90% of the match TPing. Definitely not my style

tbh tinker is almost as hard as invoker... you have to control a lot of information to judge and carry out your action accurately. Not counting to farm up the BoT is another story if u cant get free kills...
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
March 11 2012 08:10 GMT
#3987
tinker is imo the most fun hero to play in pubs if you go the blink dagon build

for reference how amazingly fun tinker can be :

PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 08:58:44
March 11 2012 08:41 GMT
#3988
On March 11 2012 17:10 cilinder007 wrote:
tinker is imo the most fun hero to play in pubs if you go the blink dagon build

for reference how amazingly fun tinker can be :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkk6vZypBco&feature=player_embedded


Haha ya I've seen the video, thats one of the reasons I thought it would be really fun lol

Also just played a game where the other team basically picked 5 carries, and our prophet just yelled KILL THEM B4 20 MINS... Its actually the first game I've ever seen the team coordinated enough to get mega creeps by 20 mins. Was some pretty good prophet play.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Also randomly got matched up with Konadora today Was good fun!
Jieun <3
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
March 11 2012 09:17 GMT
#3989
I love the change to Puck's phase shift in 6.74

Getting rid of autocast relieves him from all the funky business of what should be auto-dodged and what shouldn't, especially in the transition between dota 1 ->dota 2. It just makes the skill more clear cut and emphasize reflexes instead.

Making it 3.25 seconds on level 4 is also very welcome, making that dagger 100 % fool proof.

And finally buffing his early laning by removing the manacost is nice too.

I hope this makes it to dota 2 soon
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 11 2012 09:24 GMT
#3990
On March 11 2012 17:41 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 17:10 cilinder007 wrote:
tinker is imo the most fun hero to play in pubs if you go the blink dagon build

for reference how amazingly fun tinker can be :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkk6vZypBco&feature=player_embedded


Haha ya I've seen the video, thats one of the reasons I thought it would be really fun lol

Also just played a game where the other team basically picked 5 carries, and our prophet just yelled KILL THEM B4 20 MINS... Its actually the first game I've ever seen the team coordinated enough to get mega creeps by 20 mins. Was some pretty good prophet play.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Also randomly got matched up with Konadora today Was good fun!

wtf that snorlax avatar is mine exclusively... who the fuck stole x(
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 11 2012 09:25 GMT
#3991
On March 11 2012 18:24 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 17:41 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On March 11 2012 17:10 cilinder007 wrote:
tinker is imo the most fun hero to play in pubs if you go the blink dagon build

for reference how amazingly fun tinker can be :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkk6vZypBco&feature=player_embedded


Haha ya I've seen the video, thats one of the reasons I thought it would be really fun lol

Also just played a game where the other team basically picked 5 carries, and our prophet just yelled KILL THEM B4 20 MINS... Its actually the first game I've ever seen the team coordinated enough to get mega creeps by 20 mins. Was some pretty good prophet play.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Also randomly got matched up with Konadora today Was good fun!

wtf that snorlax avatar is mine exclusively... who the fuck stole x(


I dunno bro.... I bet he thinks its exclusively his!
Jieun <3
Mythra
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 09:43:24
March 11 2012 09:34 GMT
#3992
On March 11 2012 17:41 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 17:10 cilinder007 wrote:
tinker is imo the most fun hero to play in pubs if you go the blink dagon build

for reference how amazingly fun tinker can be :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkk6vZypBco&feature=player_embedded


Haha ya I've seen the video, thats one of the reasons I thought it would be really fun lol

Also just played a game where the other team basically picked 5 carries, and our prophet just yelled KILL THEM B4 20 MINS... Its actually the first game I've ever seen the team coordinated enough to get mega creeps by 20 mins. Was some pretty good prophet play.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Also randomly got matched up with Konadora today Was good fun!


So the Furion said kill them before 20 mins and got a midas seems kinda funny.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 11 2012 09:35 GMT
#3993
On March 11 2012 18:34 Mythra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 17:41 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On March 11 2012 17:10 cilinder007 wrote:
tinker is imo the most fun hero to play in pubs if you go the blink dagon build

for reference how amazingly fun tinker can be :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkk6vZypBco&feature=player_embedded


Haha ya I've seen the video, thats one of the reasons I thought it would be really fun lol

Also just played a game where the other team basically picked 5 carries, and our prophet just yelled KILL THEM B4 20 MINS... Its actually the first game I've ever seen the team coordinated enough to get mega creeps by 20 mins. Was some pretty good prophet play.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Also randomly got matched up with Konadora today Was good fun!


So the Furion said kill them in before 20 mins and got a midas seems kinda funny.


Lol ya.... he also didn't take sprout till level 10 haha
Jieun <3
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
March 11 2012 10:55 GMT
#3994
go fast push; denie 31 mobs in 20 minutes
play against 4 physical dmg carrys; dont skill w
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 11 2012 11:02 GMT
#3995
man, chen is so popular now :-/... every noob pick it on pub and either major fail or epic win... im sad T_T

PUSH STRAT RUIN PUB CARRIER
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
FantaFanta
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany225 Posts
March 11 2012 11:39 GMT
#3996
lmao what a fail!

Grandfinal waiting 10 min for game two. Oh eh sry guys it was a bo1

^^

anyway tobi is cool and not his fault, still sux
DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
March 11 2012 11:54 GMT
#3997
On March 11 2012 17:10 cilinder007 wrote:
tinker is imo the most fun hero to play in pubs if you go the blink dagon build

for reference how amazingly fun tinker can be :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkk6vZypBco&feature=player_embedded

Dayum, now I want to go play Tinker. I remember I used to skill March of the Machines way early and just push, push, push forever. I didn't even care about the hero kills, I just wanted to ruin buildings. This looks quite a bit above my level, but that's what is going to make it fun learning. At least, that's what I think now.

Also, still don't dare trying invoker
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 11 2012 12:44 GMT
#3998
beginner invoker only need to stick with QW and 4 spells is enough for the team... its quite easy if you practice it 1 game in wtf mode
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 13:01:17
March 11 2012 13:01 GMT
#3999
yeah i only played invoker once i got into dota 2 like 2 weeks ago. start off with QW and emp tornado cold snap and ghost walk

then slowly expand to E and get deafening blast

then further into forge spirit alacrity ice wall

only thing is whether (if you play pub mmr) ppl will let you learn invoker or not :s
POGGERS
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 13:49:21
March 11 2012 13:47 GMT
#4000
On March 11 2012 22:01 konadora wrote:
only thing is whether (if you play pub mmr) ppl will let you learn invoker or not :s


this is the #1 concern haha

i enjoy playing shadow fiend but i'm still a noob at him, and in pubs people love calling solo mid
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