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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 29 2011 20:10 GMT
#361
I guess different ladders/servers work differently, but so far on a couple of different platforms people actually ask you to leave when you are bad. At the same time, in every beginner's guide you would read how leaving games is like the worst sin in Dota, and every server tracks leavers and bans them etc. How come, then, the ladder rules make it beneficial for people to ask their weak teammates to leave?
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11929 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 20:15:48
August 29 2011 20:13 GMT
#362
On August 30 2011 05:10 figq wrote:
I guess different ladders/servers work differently, but so far on a couple of different platforms people actually ask you to leave when you are bad. At the same time, in every beginner's guide you would read how leaving games is like the worst sin in Dota, and every server tracks leavers and bans them etc. How come, then, the ladder rules make it beneficial for people to ask their weak teammates to leave?


A ladder gives you points for winning. Playing 4v5 is simpler than playing 4v6 (one person feeding the opponent). As long as it is based on winning it is positive for a team to ask a person that has the wrong hero and is bad enough to leave.

As for why leaving is bad, the game can almost always be turned around on a pub level. Each team simply makes so many mistakes that the game can be turned around. If one player leaves the chance of that occurring decreases. As mentioned above though, if a player is bad enough it is simpler to 4v5. The majority of the time a team asks you to leave they are acting out of frustration and not out of impartial judgement of your skill.
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
August 29 2011 21:19 GMT
#363
On August 30 2011 02:16 hideo wrote:
I'm having a heck of a hard time double-pulling the 2 medium camps in sentinel jungle to stack them.

Halp pls


Here you go. I know I need to sort out my mic volume, but I was camping this week and I'm bloody shattered.

http://www.justin.tv/lozarianspeaks/b/293797579

Also first ballsup was totally intentional to show how tight the timings are..

Obviously.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 29 2011 21:19 GMT
#364
44min butterfly manta vanguard bfury aegis antimage, towerdive -> quadkill staying full hp, we won 4v5.

Hey farming wins games guiZZZ
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
August 30 2011 01:08 GMT
#365
On August 30 2011 02:33 Corr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 02:16 hideo wrote:
I'm having a heck of a hard time double-pulling the 2 medium camps in sentinel jungle to stack them.

Halp pls


Top camp at ~51, walk straight down to the trees and make a turn a turn to either side as soon as you have activated the lower camp.


On August 30 2011 06:19 lozarian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 02:16 hideo wrote:
I'm having a heck of a hard time double-pulling the 2 medium camps in sentinel jungle to stack them.

Halp pls


Here you go. I know I need to sort out my mic volume, but I was camping this week and I'm bloody shattered.

http://www.justin.tv/lozarianspeaks/b/293797579

Also first ballsup was totally intentional to show how tight the timings are..

Obviously.



Ahh thank you.

I guess trying to stack without tunneling first doesn't work for some particular camps?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 30 2011 02:40 GMT
#366
The Vigoss joins M5

o_o
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
August 30 2011 02:56 GMT
#367
Fuck yeah Vigoss.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
BalancedBreakfast
Profile Joined May 2011
United States468 Posts
August 30 2011 06:03 GMT
#368
just a thought, now that dota 2 has its own subforum, what am I suppose to post about in this General Discussion thread? just wondering. It feels like all the topics I want to discuss has a thread.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 30 2011 07:18 GMT
#369
holy shit vigoss is back.... now we need Loda to make a dream tournament of all generations
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
August 30 2011 07:52 GMT
#370
On August 30 2011 15:03 BalancedBreakfast wrote:
just a thought, now that dota 2 has its own subforum, what am I suppose to post about in this General Discussion thread? just wondering. It feels like all the topics I want to discuss has a thread.


If you want to post something small that doesn't require a thread, go ahead and post it here. If this follows the rules of the LoL thread almost anything goes, talk about a recent game you played, talk about a small thing like an item, or skill order on a hero, etc. talk about a recent stream you found or cast you watched. That kind of thing
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
August 30 2011 09:57 GMT
#371
What is with these Asian players and their names? If Dota 2 gets really big a weird short handle just shouldn't cut it.

357
430
820
830
ch
rr
sD
DD
DDC
xB
MU

...at the very least pick 4 characters or something,
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
August 30 2011 15:49 GMT
#372
On August 30 2011 18:57 Horse...falcon wrote:
What is with these Asian players and their names? If Dota 2 gets really big a weird short handle just shouldn't cut it.

357
430
820
830
ch
rr
sD
DD
DDC
xB
MU

...at the very least pick 4 characters or something,


A large part of the problem is that Chinese characters dont work well outside of chinese servers/clients, so the players usually just pick something simple

another issue is having sponsors and clan-tags

EH.GiGAbyte.XXX is pretty much the longest u can fit under wc3 irrc
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 30 2011 16:13 GMT
#373
On August 30 2011 18:57 Horse...falcon wrote:
What is with these Asian players and their names? If Dota 2 gets really big a weird short handle just shouldn't cut it.

357
430
820
830
ch
rr
sD
DD
DDC
xB
MU

...at the very least pick 4 characters or something,

ZSMJ is 4 characters. ;D
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 30 2011 16:27 GMT
#374
On August 30 2011 02:16 hideo wrote:
I'm having a heck of a hard time double-pulling the 2 medium camps in sentinel jungle to stack them.

Halp pls



Anything jungling related is here.

Btw, check the sweet quad stack with lycan.
super gg
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
August 30 2011 16:29 GMT
#375
On August 30 2011 18:57 Horse...falcon wrote:
What is with these Asian players and their names? If Dota 2 gets really big a weird short handle just shouldn't cut it.

357
430
820
830
ch
rr
sD
DD
DDC
xB
MU

...at the very least pick 4 characters or something,


I had the same question, my chinese friend tells me chinese people remember numbers a lot easier so its a cultural thing. With my minimal understanding of mandarin it seems right.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
August 30 2011 16:51 GMT
#376
Creep stacking seems so tedious... is this only in the game because of the wc3 engine or do players enjoy this aspect of the game ?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 30 2011 16:56 GMT
#377
On August 31 2011 01:51 rob.au wrote:
Creep stacking seems so tedious... is this only in the game because of the wc3 engine or do players enjoy this aspect of the game ?

Tedious how? It's not like you ever need to do it if you don't want to
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 30 2011 17:04 GMT
#378
Creeps stacking is not even used thta often
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 30 2011 17:55 GMT
#379
On August 31 2011 02:04 YoShI- wrote:
Creeps stacking is not even used thta often

it is used to optimize farming quite a bit, if people dont have time to do it then they dont but if they can and without risk then they will. its all about time and risk management with creep stacking
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
August 30 2011 18:11 GMT
#380
I'll do it with a dominated creep if I'm luna or DK and I've got my hotd. Ususally ancients though.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
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