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renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
September 07 2013 10:31 GMT
#281
I agree, he played generally well at TI3, but also had his fails. For example, him stupidly losing a gem as DS was the turning point of g1 vs Alliance.

I'm not satisfied with ice3x's recruitment as well, just hope for the better and waiting for at least a month of their official games to make any judgment.
What can change the nature of a man?
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 10:39:50
September 07 2013 10:38 GMT
#282
zenith just looked lost at ti3. the games where they played well, they stomped, and if they didn't, it was mostly due to bad drafting and coordination. it was really weird watching them. they would lose badly to one team then stomp them the next game, or vice versa

can't help but feel you underestimate ice3 too much though. if you take into account ice3 as an overall player (not just 1v1!!), and compare him to rotk, i can't see why you wouldn't deem him an upgrade. one thing about ice3 is that even though by nature he's kinda trolly, this move to dk is sorta a last chance thing for him, since there just isn't any future for sg esports unless he moves to LoL.

this means he NEEDS to do at least decent at dk for other teams, eu or cn, to pick him up if he gets kicked/leaves from dk in the future. he knows it. and he knows how big this opportunity is, he'll definitely treasure it. sg is not an easy place to give up, we're a really sheltered bunch. the fact that he now moves to china even after much complaints during his short stay there is hopefully proof of this.
insi9nia
Profile Joined September 2013
Singapore19 Posts
September 07 2013 16:33 GMT
#283
Most people seemed to have overlooked the fact that Zenith was running a new configuration during TI3.
It was ymt in mid, xy to offlane and have ice3 play the carry role.

I know for a fact that ice3's native role is 3 (he told me), even he had said it so on his stream. He relishes
the fact that he can play with so much more freedom and its towards his nature to be unpredictable in that
role. He hates being stuck on farm duty and being stiffled, unable to create plays for his team early on.

Him moving to DK is a dream for him as all he wanted was a team that is 100% professional and can dedicate
everything to the game. He will give his 100% I'm sure. Even if he does try some of his cheeky or flamboyant plays
he can be confident in the fact that his amazingly individually skilled teammates will back him up.

All in all, this man will be involved the next new meta, the fresh change so needed in Chinese Dota.
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
September 07 2013 18:06 GMT
#284
I like. End.
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 07 2013 23:20 GMT
#285
i'm not underestimating icex3, even the highest level pros can speak to the fact that he is a good player rather i'm defending rotk because apparently the majority of the people think the switch between the two players is somehow the greatest thing to happen on DK. that's like a slap to the face seeing as how rotk actually performed REALLY well as a player during ti3 and improved drastically even considering the amount of dumb things he did, what did Icex3 do as a player aside from showing us a good invoker game that makes people think he would do better than rotk?

change can sometimes be good, i wouldn't even be surprised to see icex3 do well on DK but do not understate how important rotk was as player during DK's run.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
September 08 2013 00:59 GMT
#286
On September 06 2013 19:06 renfree wrote:
Great reading of lifestory of LaNm:

http://dotaland.net/2013/02/26/the-chronicles-of-lanm-stories-of-yesteryear-1-3/
http://dotaland.net/2013/02/28/the-chronicles-of-lanm-stories-of-yesteryear-4-5/
http://dotaland.net/2013/02/28/the-chronicles-of-lanm-stories-of-yesteryear-6-9/

What the fuck did I just read. Lol.
hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
September 08 2013 01:22 GMT
#287
On September 08 2013 08:20 Kuroeeah wrote:
i'm not underestimating icex3, even the highest level pros can speak to the fact that he is a good player rather i'm defending rotk because apparently the majority of the people think the switch between the two players is somehow the greatest thing to happen on DK. that's like a slap to the face seeing as how rotk actually performed REALLY well as a player during ti3 and improved drastically even considering the amount of dumb things he did, what did Icex3 do as a player aside from showing us a good invoker game that makes people think he would do better than rotk?

change can sometimes be good, i wouldn't even be surprised to see icex3 do well on DK but do not understate how important rotk was as player during DK's run.

rOtk deserves a slap in the face in the form of iceiceice. For all the trolls and misgivings of iceiceice, he is still a far more consistent player than rOtk. Having watched DK game in and game out with the old lineup, it is absolutely infuriating to see just how many games rOtk had single-handedly thrown away.

Not to say rOtk hasn't played well during TI, not to dismiss all his contribution to the team, but iceiceice is an upgrade, however slight it might be.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 08 2013 01:23 GMT
#288
On September 08 2013 10:22 hmsrenown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 08:20 Kuroeeah wrote:
i'm not underestimating icex3, even the highest level pros can speak to the fact that he is a good player rather i'm defending rotk because apparently the majority of the people think the switch between the two players is somehow the greatest thing to happen on DK. that's like a slap to the face seeing as how rotk actually performed REALLY well as a player during ti3 and improved drastically even considering the amount of dumb things he did, what did Icex3 do as a player aside from showing us a good invoker game that makes people think he would do better than rotk?

change can sometimes be good, i wouldn't even be surprised to see icex3 do well on DK but do not understate how important rotk was as player during DK's run.

rOtk deserves a slap in the face in the form of iceiceice. For all the trolls and misgivings of iceiceice, he is still a far more consistent player than rOtk. Having watched DK game in and game out with the old lineup, it is absolutely infuriating to see just how many games rOtk had single-handedly thrown away.

Not to say rOtk hasn't played well during TI, not to dismiss all his contribution to the team, but iceiceice is an upgrade, however slight it might be.

we shall see.
jigga
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1141 Posts
September 08 2013 02:24 GMT
#289
On September 06 2013 19:06 renfree wrote:
Great reading of lifestory of LaNm:

http://dotaland.net/2013/02/26/the-chronicles-of-lanm-stories-of-yesteryear-1-3/
http://dotaland.net/2013/02/28/the-chronicles-of-lanm-stories-of-yesteryear-4-5/
http://dotaland.net/2013/02/28/the-chronicles-of-lanm-stories-of-yesteryear-6-9/


Holy shit. This was amazing. Definitely a better love story than Twilight.
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