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On September 06 2013 15:05 tada.hts wrote:I followed Mushi for a long time, and I'm not really sure that this line up would work.. Mushi needs a sacrificial lamb to go mid when the opponent has the upper hand of the mid hero.. and I don't see Burning will take the job 
I could see them playing some games with Mushi 1, iceiceice mid and Burning offlane. Or any variation thereof. They're all quite versatile players.
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On September 06 2013 15:07 Gathris wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 15:05 tada.hts wrote:I followed Mushi for a long time, and I'm not really sure that this line up would work.. Mushi needs a sacrificial lamb to go mid when the opponent has the upper hand of the mid hero.. and I don't see Burning will take the job I could see them playing some games with Mushi 1, iceiceice mid and Burning offlane. Or any variation thereof. They're all quite versatile players.
Ah true, this would work. :D Cause you definitely don't want Mushi to get shut down.
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Really hope they do well. In fact screw it, they really need to win or else it would feel like a failure.
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On September 06 2013 13:55 Jenovah wrote:
OMG,..... This new DK is going to take the Dota 2 world by storm, best players from SEA and the Great Wall could offer for position Carry, Mid and Offlaner....
I really like icex3, and watch he's stream alott, but he is by far the best offlaner...
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This is going to work out well. Icex3 just need more practice offlane and without any roles switching, I feel that he will get sufficient practices. One of the reason Zenith wasn't performing well in TI3 was the inability of practicing with the Chinese teams, Mushi, Burning, Lamn and Dai are all pretty solid and amazing already. With the best carry in the world, 2 of them best solo players, a good micro-based role 4 and a decisive role 5.
I can't wait for the Ace tournament to start =)
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Mushi + Burning = First 30 minutes invincible + After 30 minutes invincible
nice XD
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Like everybody else I'm glad DK found good players but I'm anxious to see how well they perform. It's not like Super and rOtk were total scrubs.
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On September 06 2013 15:07 Gathris wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 15:05 tada.hts wrote:I followed Mushi for a long time, and I'm not really sure that this line up would work.. Mushi needs a sacrificial lamb to go mid when the opponent has the upper hand of the mid hero.. and I don't see Burning will take the job I could see them playing some games with Mushi 1, iceiceice mid and Burning offlane. Or any variation thereof. They're all quite versatile players.
I actually feel like this would be the best lineup for them overall, with BurNIng on some more rice-heavy offlaners and Mushi on some more aggressive carries, so their styles can meet in the middle. I just don't think ice and Mushi's lategame decisionmaking is as solid as most Chinese players if they stick with 4p1, plus, their strengths won't be fully utilized that way. They'll need to adapt.
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Out of all the roster changes thus far, DK's new roster is the one I'm most anxiously waiting to see in action. I really hope this roster change works out for them 
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#1 and #2 solo mid player in the world !
#roadtoti4
#believe
#seadoto
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On September 06 2013 16:07 sandyph wrote:
#1 and #2 solo mid player in the world !
#roadtoti4
#believe
#seadoto
I wouldn't be suprised if fy and Cty were the top 2 1v1 players in the world.
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I think dk will do well if they play an aggressive play style. Mushi is a beast when given playmaking heroes. Just don't be retarded and pick solo mid Alch for him.
My only concern is Ice3 performances as #3. His prophet and ds offlane solo have not been conservative enough. Still he is the best player for offlane solo in DK.
However, I assume that dk will be very strong in aggressive trilane, with Ice3 capable of soloing mid in mushi's place.
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On September 06 2013 16:31 tauon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 16:07 sandyph wrote:
#1 and #2 solo mid player in the world !
#roadtoti4
#believe
#seadoto I wouldn't be suprised if fy and Cty were the top 2 1v1 players in the world.
FY and CTY wasn't in The International 3 1v1 solo mid championship final.
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On September 06 2013 13:12 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 10:20 nayumi wrote:
Man when you got a team where the two solo players were finalists of the world solo championship, there's really not much left to say Personal 1v1 skill is an extremely unimportant factor when constructing a professional team, especially when one of the players mentioned will not be playing that role.
It's not the uttermost crucial factor but saying it's unimportant is simply untrue. Every dominant team so far has relied a lot on their solo laners (be it mid or off-lane). And in the first 5-10 minutes, as a solo laner you needs your personal skill to win last hit, out harass, obtain lane/rune control.
It might not be the case when your off-laner goes up against a tri/dual lane but for mid it's almost always a 1v1 contest.
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On September 06 2013 05:24 ArcticRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 01:45 teapoted wrote:On September 06 2013 01:42 Sn0_Man wrote:On September 06 2013 01:39 Porkz wrote:
time to change favourite team to dk Lol look at the flairs on this page. I will have to change mine, DK too mainstream to be a fan of. With you being a Goblak admirer i am not surprised at all by your hipsterdom :D Well to be fair I only liked the team Goblak was on when he was with 'the good' Empire. And Empire was hardly a hipster team to support =P
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On September 06 2013 18:09 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 13:12 Cel.erity wrote:On September 06 2013 10:20 nayumi wrote:
Man when you got a team where the two solo players were finalists of the world solo championship, there's really not much left to say Personal 1v1 skill is an extremely unimportant factor when constructing a professional team, especially when one of the players mentioned will not be playing that role. It's not the uttermost crucial factor but saying it's unimportant is simply untrue. Every dominant team so far has relied a lot on their solo laners (be it mid or off-lane). And in the first 5-10 minutes, as a solo laner you needs your personal skill to win last hit, out harass, obtain lane/rune control. It might not be the case when your off-laner goes up against a tri/dual lane but for mid it's almost always a 1v1 contest.
Team chemistry, listening to calls, having good coordination, having good positioning, executing teamfights are all much more important skills than how well you can 1v1 in your lane, and those are the things that might be called into question with this roster.
Winning a solo mid championship is not a huge endorsement of a player's contribution to a team, that's all I'm saying.
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On September 06 2013 18:36 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 18:09 nayumi wrote:On September 06 2013 13:12 Cel.erity wrote:On September 06 2013 10:20 nayumi wrote:
Man when you got a team where the two solo players were finalists of the world solo championship, there's really not much left to say Personal 1v1 skill is an extremely unimportant factor when constructing a professional team, especially when one of the players mentioned will not be playing that role. It's not the uttermost crucial factor but saying it's unimportant is simply untrue. Every dominant team so far has relied a lot on their solo laners (be it mid or off-lane). And in the first 5-10 minutes, as a solo laner you needs your personal skill to win last hit, out harass, obtain lane/rune control. It might not be the case when your off-laner goes up against a tri/dual lane but for mid it's almost always a 1v1 contest. Team chemistry, listening to calls, having good coordination, having good positioning, executing teamfights are all much more important skills than how well you can 1v1 in your lane, and those are the things that might be called into question with this roster. Winning a solo mid championship is not a huge endorsement of a player's contribution to a team, that's all I'm saying.
Given that Alliance almost always wins 1v1 solo match-ups that's not a particular true statement. You are severely downplaying how individual skill big time.
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On September 06 2013 15:45 parazice wrote:
Mushi + Burning = First 30 minutes invincible + After 30 minutes invincible
nice XD
sounds good to me :D
dota maths can be so simple :D
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Instant DK fan! If they can learn to work together as a team, they will become unstoppable!
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