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dubol
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada56 Posts
August 22 2013 15:02 GMT
#41
These additions for an expansion pack seem pretty underwhelming...
KING CHARLIE :D
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States447 Posts
August 22 2013 15:29 GMT
#42
Maybe I'm just a lot more simple than all you guys, but I think this looks sick. There was a lot of problems with D3 at release, but lets not forget about all the good things. Is there a game with better combat than D3? This new itemization looks sick and harkens back to the skill specific builds that made playing d2 multiple times fun. Now we need a ladder.

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woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
August 22 2013 15:43 GMT
#43
On August 22 2013 07:32 Koshi wrote:
Trailer looks awesome and all the newly hatched Diablo fans say the game is "fixed" now. Still, Diablo III was so incredible bad on release, I don't want to buy this expansion but I probably will. Blizzard did so much shit right in the past that I just have to buy all their major titles.



I feel you bro, same here. Even how shitty D3 became eventually I have to buy all Bliz games, calls me Bliz fan boy but they have earned the best from D1 to War3. SC2 is fine. D3 was okay.

I just really think that people expect more since the old games SCBW, D2 and War 3 are so great.

D2 exceeded D1. War 3 exceeded War 1 and 2 (Ofcourse!), But this was because the technology was too far off XP to 98.

But see SC2, it is hard to exceed BW, yes they fixed the shitty stuff but it caused it to be a totally fast paced different thing.

Now we see D3, too easy compared to D2. It seems D3 was made for AH purposes (lets make moneey!!).
I wonder if they made it to perma stats customization if people would still complain. Maybe tehy would but it would take them too damn long to find out as they need to reach level 60 and compare, convince themselves build X is overpowered.

I really hope they would bring back the real time PvP thing. That is all that matters to people who play and compete with friends.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 22 2013 15:57 GMT
#44
hoped for 2 acts, one were you can chase down Adria (would feel unfulfilled if I couldn't) and the one we are getting. But Horadrim are back yay, wish I could play one x3 .

Still don't like the how they handle items though ... Legendaries stop being Legendaries if you only wear Legendaries before even reaching max level. But maybe it is time to go a level higher and make Seraph class weapons, that maybe drop once every 100 hours or are crafted out of the magic left overs of 100 Legendaries.

Crusader getting jump is funny though. But I guess you need those skills to make them fast at farming.
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
August 22 2013 16:02 GMT
#45
Any mention of rune words?!
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DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 16:05:23
August 22 2013 16:04 GMT
#46
So basically they took the best suggestions from the community and instead of releasing a ''soon'' patch like they said they would, they are making a expansion instead.


No thanks.


Also, D2 xpack = 2 brand new classes.


D3 xpack = revamped paladin.
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Pegas
Profile Joined April 2012
Romania211 Posts
August 22 2013 16:08 GMT
#47
Still if they fix the drops and the damn inflation I will throw what logic dictates and go with my heart.

Oh and btw I hope Crusader doesn`t get with end game gear perma bashes/stuns... I still have bad memories from D2.
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
August 22 2013 16:26 GMT
#48
On August 23 2013 01:04 DDie wrote:
So basically they took the best suggestions from the community and instead of releasing a ''soon'' patch like they said they would, they are making a expansion instead.


No thanks.


Also, D2 xpack = 2 brand new classes.


D3 xpack = revamped paladin.


they never said "soon", loot 2.0 has always been scheduled for the end of the year (so early 2014 by Blizzard standards). Nothing has changed in that regard, loot 2.0 and Paragon 2.0 will be in a pre-expansion patch.
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
August 22 2013 16:28 GMT
#49
People are complaining about drops all the time and I have no idea why.
The problem are items themselves. All you want on your certain gear parts is main stat/vitality/all resistance/CD/CC/AS. And that's it. It's cool, they are adding one possible stat which buffs some skills in particular and allows more build diversity but that's pretty much it. And it is not enough. Itemization is pretty dull and these changes will have a very minor impact. You can't compare D3 items with items you had in Diablo 2 (the uniques and runewords).
Other things are looking a lot better (especially the story line and a new villain) and at last D3 is improving. Although, the skill system seems quite underwhelming as well.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
August 22 2013 16:46 GMT
#50
A little longer video about crusader gameplay:

Diablo 3 Crusader demo
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heavenz
Profile Joined August 2013
Austria301 Posts
August 22 2013 16:58 GMT
#51
I wish they would just copy the stats and skillpoint system from diablo2. Yes your first character is probably going to be completly messed up and not viable for the higher difficulties but it's still a good experience and makes for nice memories. In diablo 3 there is zero replay value with the same hero, how can that be the goal?

On top of that the total lack of PvP is not to be underrated. I bought diablo3 knowing that they don't have a PvP system at launch (where no one cares about PvP anyways), but also knowing that they will add one (after already showing the Arena gameplay). PvP in itself adds a lategame quality that is now totally missing. But not only lategame (well it inclues lategame) but it also gives some rare earlygame items insane value for level 9/19/30 etc PvP.

Playing the game is fun for a while, and the new add on will be certainly fun for a playthrough as well, especially with the new character class, but since the core issues (for me) are still not solved this doesn't help much.

Somehow it feels blizzard became to reliant on expansions.

Starcraft + Broodwar
Warcraft3 + Frozen Throne
Diablo + Lord of Destruction

every game was played for more than 10 years.

now

WoW with three (?) expansions
Sc2 going to have two
and D3's first expansions seems to me is going to have so little impact that most likely another one will follow (if someome
still plays the game...)

Regarding the story I would have thought it was much more exciting if it turned out that tyrael was betraying you, instead of beeing the ultimate nice guy, so that it would be much darker and a bit scarrier and crueler. Especially diablo 1 was quite frightening and the ending where he hammered the soul stone in his head was sick, and in diablo2 where baal faked to be tyrael and killed his follower, or alone the opening sequence...
Yes I was much younger, but also on an objectiv level I think diablo 1/2 where scarrier, crueler, darker than diablo3.

Aye, these things bothers me :D
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
August 22 2013 17:07 GMT
#52
They need to implement a ladder system like in d2 that reset every x months, that would be amazing and would save the game
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
August 22 2013 17:17 GMT
#53
On August 23 2013 02:07 KiWiKaKi wrote:
They need to implement a ladder system like in d2 that reset every x months, that would be amazing and would save the game



wont happen because some people would be mad at their RMAH stuff being taken away.
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Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
August 22 2013 17:35 GMT
#54


And its no nay never,...
no never no more....
will I play this game no never no more !!

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice ... shame on me.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
August 22 2013 17:43 GMT
#55
On August 23 2013 02:17 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 02:07 KiWiKaKi wrote:
They need to implement a ladder system like in d2 that reset every x months, that would be amazing and would save the game



wont happen because some people would be mad at their RMAH stuff being taken away.

Again... http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9573317487#8

Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 00:49:35
August 22 2013 19:57 GMT
#56
On August 23 2013 01:08 Pegas wrote:
Oh and btw I hope Crusader doesn`t get with end game gear perma bashes/stuns... I still have bad memories from D2.

On August 23 2013 00:43 woreyour wrote:
I just really think that people expect more since the old games SCBW, D2 and War 3 are so great.


Not that D2 wasn't great, but it's funny how people forgot so much of the bad parts, or maybe never experienced them. That's kind of the thing with these really old, long-lived games. When/how exactly did you play it? I played D2 at launch until a few months after LoD on closed bnet. After that I just played every now and then as a weekend lan-party with friends. Totally different experiences, and the game changed immensely during that time too.


Now we see D3, too easy compared to D2. It seems D3 was made for AH purposes (lets make moneey!!).


It may surprise you to know that D3 has an AH because people still playing D2 wanted something in-game where they couldn't get ripped off / could get to quicker than using 3rd party sites.

Personally, I thought D3 was about as hard as D2 (the added resistances always messed me up in the higher difficulties cuz I guess I chose crappy builds), but in the other thread someone was saying D3 was harder than D2 because that was also feedback from the D2 community during development (remember 1-shot Inferno? not the right way about doing difficulty imo...).


I really hope they would bring back the real time PvP thing. That is all that matters to people who play and compete with friends.


See this is what I mean about different experiences:
I only flipped my PvP switch on once - when my friend wanted to change followers, so I volunteered to kill his current one for fun.

Other than that, I mostly wished there was no go-hostile mode... public games where a lvl 90 would show up to a normal mode game and turn part of the map off-limits were not fun. Most of my Bnet days were spend either in different boss run games or in a private game so gankers couldn't find me.
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 20:14:16
August 22 2013 20:13 GMT
#57
On August 23 2013 01:28 Huragius wrote:
People are complaining about drops all the time and I have no idea why.
The problem are items themselves. All you want on your certain gear parts is main stat/vitality/all resistance/CD/CC/AS. And that's it. It's cool, they are adding one possible stat which buffs some skills in particular and allows more build diversity but that's pretty much it. And it is not enough. Itemization is pretty dull and these changes will have a very minor impact. You can't compare D3 items with items you had in Diablo 2 (the uniques and runewords).
Other things are looking a lot better (especially the story line and a new villain) and at last D3 is improving. Although, the skill system seems quite underwhelming as well.


I don't know. Making it so that when I kill things, Hydras spawn sounds pretty awesome, assuming the chance isn't ungodly low. Definitely a step up from the first Legendary update..

Or getting a Spirit refund for Dashing Strike (which I use quite a bit) at long range. That item also had an affix which reduces Cooldowns. We didn't see much new in the way of affixes from the small demonstration yet (totally intentional) so I'm looking forward to that discussion later.

I think that's a step in the right direction. It's also nice that all legendary items can be found at all levels, so there should be some nice variety there.

The addition of Loot Runs and Nephalem Trials adds the much needed element of randomness, without detracting from what they want to do with the campaign.

And now we have stat points. And what's great about that is that you can allocate points to more than just the 4 main stats. However, I have a question about this one. I get that I have 200 stat points if I have 200 paragon levels. Does each character I have get their own 200 stat points, do they all share the stat points with each other, or are some shared and some not?
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 21:12:47
August 22 2013 21:12 GMT
#58
Heavenz you're totally right, I think everyone agrees the early Diablo's had a more enthralling story and the gaming experience felt more addictive too. Its because Blizzard is working with new designers now and the people who made Diablo I and II moved on.

But I am hopeful now, because the lead designer of D3 moved on and I'm not sure who he was replaced by, but there is potential for a new direction. Maybe the story is improved too? I would say that overall its still probably going to be worth the money. And although the auction house probably does ruin the game a bit, I still found it to be a lot of fun to use as a casual gamer.
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 22:40:22
August 22 2013 22:39 GMT
#59
eh this is probably the least underwhelming game announcement by blizz for me.

i loved WoL, D3 vanilla, and HotS. but the cinematic just wasnt as interesting.


unlimited paragon is also a terrible decision.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
August 23 2013 00:41 GMT
#60
On August 23 2013 07:39 b_unnies wrote:
eh this is probably the least underwhelming game announcement by blizz for me.

i loved WoL, D3 vanilla, and HotS. but the cinematic just wasnt as interesting.


unlimited paragon is also a terrible decision.


The unlimited paragon is quite popular over at /r/Diablo and with Moldran. What issue do you have with it?
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