I have hit a wall at act 1 inferno with my barbarian and I know I need to farm more gear to progress which I'm totally willing to do.
My question is this, I have Whimsyshire Hell unlocked, do you think it would be better to farm this place for gear or should I be running act 4 hell?
I haven't done a lot of testing, but the NV buff just doesn't seem to apply in whimsyshire, where those last couple bosses in hell with the 5 stack NV drop a ton of loot, the level in whimsyshire should be higher.
Any advice?
And I know I should have used the 850k I spent to unlocked hell mode whimyshire on the AH and I would be fine now, lets just ignore that :-)
tried it maybe once, didnt get anything usefull besides money. NV works in there tho but its act1. will probly try again at some point, but the level is so annoying, these colors hurt my brain.
act 2 is the real wall :D i wonder this myself. i farmed inferno butcher a few times, clearing 5 blue/yellow packs on the way to have those 5 stacks mf find, but even when i get a shitload of yellow stuff, its all lvl 56-59. how much can that help ...
I am running about 300-350 resists, 30k life, but my dps is down to less than 5k. Should that be enough to get me through act 1?
I have been getting crap luck with the elites champion packs I think. Lots of Shielding Arcane Plague combos. Maybe I'm just getting unlucky but it has been 5+ deaths per pack and that just doesn't seem right.
On May 29 2012 06:14 Smooth17 wrote: I am running about 300-350 resists, 30k life, but my dps is down to less than 5k. Should that be enough to get me through act 1?
I have been getting crap luck with the elites champion packs I think. Lots of Shielding Arcane Plague combos. Maybe I'm just getting unlucky but it has been 5+ deaths per pack and that just doesn't seem right.
buy better gear from GAH or farm Act 4 Hell
your gear isn't sufficient to adequately handle A1 Inferno
On May 29 2012 06:14 Smooth17 wrote: I am running about 300-350 resists, 30k life, but my dps is down to less than 5k. Should that be enough to get me through act 1?
I have been getting crap luck with the elites champion packs I think. Lots of Shielding Arcane Plague combos. Maybe I'm just getting unlucky but it has been 5+ deaths per pack and that just doesn't seem right.
Less than 5k is reeeaaaally low, what kinda wep you got?
On May 29 2012 06:14 Smooth17 wrote: I am running about 300-350 resists, 30k life, but my dps is down to less than 5k. Should that be enough to get me through act 1?
I have been getting crap luck with the elites champion packs I think. Lots of Shielding Arcane Plague combos. Maybe I'm just getting unlucky but it has been 5+ deaths per pack and that just doesn't seem right.
I had 450 resist, 30k life and 8k dps when I did act 1. It was pretty easy with that.
If there is an elite pack that is just too annoying, just skip it.
I bought a 980 dps 2h weap but then when I realized I couldn't live without a shield I couldn't find much for a 1h. I think I'm at around 550 dps with the 1H. My issue is that to get the resists I needed to sacrifice so much dps.
To be clear, I know my gear sucks. I just want to know if I would be better off farming Act 4 hell or Whimsyshire hell?
On May 29 2012 06:27 Smooth17 wrote: I bought a 980 dps 2h weap but then when I realized I couldn't live without a shield I couldn't find much for a 1h. I think I'm at around 550 dps with the 1H. My issue is that to get the resists I needed to sacrifice so much dps.
To be clear, I know my gear sucks. I just want to know if I would be better off farming Act 4 hell or Whimsyshire hell?
farm act 1 inferno, it has better loot than act IV hell by a significant margin, farm SK, start with the crown quest, you will have 5 stacks of nephalim valor by the time you reach him, and decent stuff drops in the cathedral. (It's not really worth it imo to farm material prior to the crown quest since there are so few rare/champion packs, and the 75% you get is pretty significant, even for chests/barrels/regular mobs.) You might also want to try to get some passive MF/GF gear. I am sitting at a pasive 85% MF on my char (which is so nice once you get an additional 75% from the nephalim buff). Trust me, it makes a HUGE difference.
It should be standard practice to have a set of MF gear to swap into before you kill any rares/elites/bosses also, I carry a full suit of MF gear in my bag and swap it all on before the kill and it puts me up to 225%. Seems to make a big difference.
Also 550 dps is way low for inferno, you can pick up 800-850 dps weapons for about 400k now thanks to all the aspect farmers.
i think the standard procedure is to farm SK till you have good enough gear to do butcher runs. Do that for a LONG time. Unless you get super lucky. Then try act2.
So they nerfed azmodan xp runs. What is the best XP run for leveling up? So far it seems that act 2 quest road alcarnus lt. vachem is best one i can find. any one else find good xp runs?
On May 30 2012 16:10 wei2coolman wrote: So they nerfed azmodan xp runs. What is the best XP run for leveling up? So far it seems that act 2 quest road alcarnus lt. vachem is best one i can find. any one else find good xp runs?
Act 1 Quest 7, you kill the mage then the 3 elites after, and you get the quest reward, takes about 3 minsish to do if you don't die to the elites, and nets you 90-100k exp.
On May 30 2012 16:10 wei2coolman wrote: So they nerfed azmodan xp runs. What is the best XP run for leveling up? So far it seems that act 2 quest road alcarnus lt. vachem is best one i can find. any one else find good xp runs?
Either act 2 zultan kulle runs, if you do this with others you can exploit and turn this quest in a boatload of times just off of one kill (with 2 people you can turn it in 8 times with clever game switching, it is complicated tho and I haven't tried it yet). Or if playing alone, act 3 quest 1 (nightmare) siege bastion runs, this is a 20 second run where you let a cannon barrage kill a bunch of mobs for you, you can do this all the way from 25 to 60 as the experience stays profitable because you get a multikill bonus which scales with level.
If you want a good place to farm with crap gear, try the underbridge. It's a real easy run for a demon hunter (Use vault and smokescreen so you dont have to fight), check the underbridge for resplendet chest. Underbridge not there, or no chest in it -> leave game, resume game. Rinse and repeat.
Easiest run ever, if you want you can let tyrael clear mobs for you while you are dead.
Edit: You want to do this on inferno difficulty btw. You don't need to have act 3 unlocked, just use the 'exploit' to get into the game. Im not going into detail here, it has been said a thousand times how to do it.
Still low on resists and maybe armor for Act 2 Inferno (wasps & serpents rape me). Just doing 5stack jailer/butcher runs at a fast pace. The annoying aspect is more of the gear that drops does not have the coveted +allres stat, or if it does, it's on a blue with only 1 secondary stat that is abysmal. Nets you about 50k gold per run with low mf/gf like me (May invest in some MF gear to shorten my time here). Found most of the gear that replaced my 50-59 gear there. Every run find at least one item that sells for 25k+ on the AH, with patience that's 2 items for that price or much more (though with 10item limit that's debatable).
Curious if any of those Level10 blacksmith patterns have a chance to spawn PimaryStat/Vit/AllRes mods in it. At helms crafted for 51k and others about the same, could be a viable alternative. Just not gonna dump 400k to find out what the best I can hope for is.
On May 30 2012 18:21 Danglars wrote: Still low on resists and maybe armor for Act 2 Inferno (wasps & serpents rape me). Just doing 5stack jailer/butcher runs at a fast pace. The annoying aspect is more of the gear that drops does not have the coveted +allres stat, or if it does, it's on a blue with only 1 secondary stat that is abysmal. Nets you about 50k gold per run with low mf/gf like me (May invest in some MF gear to shorten my time here). Found most of the gear that replaced my 50-59 gear there. Every run find at least one item that sells for 25k+ on the AH, with patience that's 2 items for that price or much more (though with 10item limit that's debatable).
Curious if any of those Level10 blacksmith patterns have a chance to spawn PimaryStat/Vit/AllRes mods in it. At helms crafted for 51k and others about the same, could be a viable alternative. Just not gonna dump 400k to find out what the best I can hope for is.
I'm sure the level 10 recipes have a chance to get any affix, but with only 4 random properties, the chance to get a good combination is pretty low. For the recipes with 5 or 6 random properties, it seems to have a good chance to craft items with good combinations, though these are of course way more expensive to craft (I have a mojo recipe with 5 props, it costs 135k to craft and 8 tears). These will generally be really awesome though and can usually sell well on AH if they don't fit your character.
just dump your money on AH , and spend that smartly
I spent 300k to replaces most gears of my wizard except weapon/ one ring, boosted resist from 150 to 500 (self-buffed), with 35k hp, 17k dps, it helped me from dying every 5 sec in act 1 to doing ok in act 2
On May 30 2012 18:37 Phantom_Sky wrote: just dump your money on AH , and spend that smartly
I spent 300k to replaces most gears of my wizard except weapon/ one ring, boosted resist from 150 to 500 (self-buffed), with 35k hp, 17k dps, it helped me from dying every 5 sec in act 1 to doing ok in act 2
What % reduction do you get from having 500 in a resist?
On May 30 2012 16:10 wei2coolman wrote: So they nerfed azmodan xp runs. What is the best XP run for leveling up? So far it seems that act 2 quest road alcarnus lt. vachem is best one i can find. any one else find good xp runs?
farm zultan kulle. same thing as azmodan - 1 less quest, but barely any running time.
On May 30 2012 17:23 rems wrote: If you want a good place to farm with crap gear, try the underbridge. It's a real easy run for a demon hunter (Use vault and smokescreen so you dont have to fight), check the underbridge for resplendet chest. Underbridge not there, or no chest in it -> leave game, resume game. Rinse and repeat.
Easiest run ever, if you want you can let tyrael clear mobs for you while you are dead.
Edit: You want to do this on inferno difficulty btw. You don't need to have act 3 unlocked, just use the 'exploit' to get into the game. Im not going into detail here, it has been said a thousand times how to do it.
Before anyone wastes their time doing this....it has been nerfed (quite a while ago actually). The chest has a significantly lowered spawn rate now.
Curious if any of those Level10 blacksmith patterns have a chance to spawn PimaryStat/Vit/AllRes mods in it. At helms crafted for 51k and others about the same, could be a viable alternative. Just not gonna dump 400k to find out what the best I can hope for is.
I got bored a bit so I decided to do this. Just tried making a lvl 60 belt for 50k and got :
85dex 50 intelligence 65 all resists 12 mf
With 5-6 mods I can definitely see it becoming profitable if you have a large bank roll. But I guess I got somewhat lucky on my 1st try (those stats go for around 300-400k atm). Can't wait to try out the new plans whenever blizz decides to fix AH
Curious if any of those Level10 blacksmith patterns have a chance to spawn PimaryStat/Vit/AllRes mods in it. At helms crafted for 51k and others about the same, could be a viable alternative. Just not gonna dump 400k to find out what the best I can hope for is.
I got bored a bit so I decided to do this. Just tried making a lvl 60 belt for 50k and got :
85dex 50 intelligence 65 all resists 12 mf
With 5-6 mods I can definitely see it becoming profitable if you have a large bank roll. But I guess I got somewhat lucky on my 1st try (those stats go for around 300-400k atm). Can't wait to try out the new plans whenever blizz decides to fix AH
Yeah you definitely got a nice and lucky roll there. I have crafted quite a few 5 stat shoulders from a pattern I got in inferno and at almost 100,000 gold a piece including mat value I haven't made any money doing that so far. Even when I get a nice one it has just been worth enough to roughly break even on the crap rolls. But I haven't done a ton and haven't gotten any really amazing results yet. I have had better luck on the lvl 54 armor pieces with 5 stats since they are much cheaper to make. I'd love to get a 6 stat pattern and try my luck there though.
On May 30 2012 18:37 Phantom_Sky wrote: just dump your money on AH , and spend that smartly
I spent 300k to replaces most gears of my wizard except weapon/ one ring, boosted resist from 150 to 500 (self-buffed), with 35k hp, 17k dps, it helped me from dying every 5 sec in act 1 to doing ok in act 2
What % reduction do you get from having 500 in a resist?
On May 30 2012 18:37 Phantom_Sky wrote: just dump your money on AH , and spend that smartly
I spent 300k to replaces most gears of my wizard except weapon/ one ring, boosted resist from 150 to 500 (self-buffed), with 35k hp, 17k dps, it helped me from dying every 5 sec in act 1 to doing ok in act 2
What % reduction do you get from having 500 in a resist?
Damage mitigation = Resist chance / (50*Monster level + Resist chance). So between 61.35% and 62.11% in inferno, depending on act. It's equivalent to having 5000 armor.
can't say, blizzard will nerf it as many others But you can still farm goblin in dark cellar Act I Quest 2, in the center of Old Tristram (few steps to the south from WP)
On May 30 2012 18:37 Phantom_Sky wrote: just dump your money on AH , and spend that smartly
I spent 300k to replaces most gears of my wizard except weapon/ one ring, boosted resist from 150 to 500 (self-buffed), with 35k hp, 17k dps, it helped me from dying every 5 sec in act 1 to doing ok in act 2
What % reduction do you get from having 500 in a resist?
Damage mitigation = Resist chance / (50*Monster level + Resist chance). So between 61.35% and 62.11% in inferno, depending on act. It's equivalent to having 5000 armor.
Thats the armor formula. Res_Mitigation = Res / (5*mlvl + Res)
Curious if any of those Level10 blacksmith patterns have a chance to spawn PimaryStat/Vit/AllRes mods in it. At helms crafted for 51k and others about the same, could be a viable alternative. Just not gonna dump 400k to find out what the best I can hope for is.
I got bored a bit so I decided to do this. Just tried making a lvl 60 belt for 50k and got :
85dex 50 intelligence 65 all resists 12 mf
With 5-6 mods I can definitely see it becoming profitable if you have a large bank roll. But I guess I got somewhat lucky on my 1st try (those stats go for around 300-400k atm). Can't wait to try out the new plans whenever blizz decides to fix AH
Yeah you definitely got a nice and lucky roll there. I have crafted quite a few 5 stat shoulders from a pattern I got in inferno and at almost 100,000 gold a piece including mat value I haven't made any money doing that so far. Even when I get a nice one it has just been worth enough to roughly break even on the crap rolls. But I haven't done a ton and haven't gotten any really amazing results yet. I have had better luck on the lvl 54 armor pieces with 5 stats since they are much cheaper to make. I'd love to get a 6 stat pattern and try my luck there though.
Don't bother... Crafted roughly 15 million away in 6 stat weapons and got a whopping 1 weapon to put to AH and even that barely covered 1 weapons reagants... Funniest thing is, that even though odds are abysmal compared to the cost, you can't even hit the jackpot and get perfect stat items as the base item you craft is not the best (Theres 3 tiers of lvl 60 items, crafted ones are 2nd tier...)
On May 31 2012 06:28 HQuality wrote: can't say, blizzard will nerf it as many others But you can still farm goblin in dark cellar Act I Quest 2, in the center of Old Tristram (few steps to the south from WP)
sorry can you elborate on that? you mean in the dark cellar (side dungeon) in the old ruins? If yes, I ran that a few times, no goblin, just a room full of zombies and maybe a normal chest. Sometimes it doesn't even appear.
On May 30 2012 16:10 wei2coolman wrote: So they nerfed azmodan xp runs. What is the best XP run for leveling up? So far it seems that act 2 quest road alcarnus lt. vachem is best one i can find. any one else find good xp runs?
Act 1 Quest 7, you kill the mage then the 3 elites after, and you get the quest reward, takes about 3 minsish to do if you don't die to the elites, and nets you 90-100k exp.
That's the fastest leveling guide I've seen; it's what I used for my champions.
For the OP, I would just try to farm SK and look for a better weapon. Try to get up to 8k dps, then continue butcher runs.
GL, if you get super stuck, I wouldn't mind helping you with some butchers. Feel free to PM me if it is still too hard.
On May 31 2012 17:09 wei2coolman wrote: Can some one explain what "aspect" farming is? :O
Last act before diablo, you go by the spire and there's a ghostly figure(deckard cain & leia & captain something) that gives a speech, and transform into a Aspect of BLAH BLAH BLAH (named scripted mini boss).
On May 31 2012 06:28 HQuality wrote: can't say, blizzard will nerf it as many others But you can still farm goblin in dark cellar Act I Quest 2, in the center of Old Tristram (few steps to the south from WP)
sorry can you elborate on that? you mean in the dark cellar (side dungeon) in the old ruins? If yes, I ran that a few times, no goblin, just a room full of zombies and maybe a normal chest. Sometimes it doesn't even appear.
On May 30 2012 16:10 wei2coolman wrote: So they nerfed azmodan xp runs. What is the best XP run for leveling up? So far it seems that act 2 quest road alcarnus lt. vachem is best one i can find. any one else find good xp runs?
Either act 2 zultan kulle runs, if you do this with others you can exploit and turn this quest in a boatload of times just off of one kill (with 2 people you can turn it in 8 times with clever game switching, it is complicated tho and I haven't tried it yet). Or if playing alone, act 3 quest 1 (nightmare) siege bastion runs, this is a 20 second run where you let a cannon barrage kill a bunch of mobs for you, you can do this all the way from 25 to 60 as the experience stays profitable because you get a multikill bonus which scales with level.
On May 31 2012 06:28 HQuality wrote: can't say, blizzard will nerf it as many others But you can still farm goblin in dark cellar Act I Quest 2, in the center of Old Tristram (few steps to the south from WP)
sorry can you elborate on that? you mean in the dark cellar (side dungeon) in the old ruins? If yes, I ran that a few times, no goblin, just a room full of zombies and maybe a normal chest. Sometimes it doesn't even appear.
I agree. Elaborate please
That's it. You simply didn't get lucky with the goblin spawn. The best way would be to find another friend or if you can 3 friends and they all farm the same goblin. Whenever you see the goblin, you just wait for ur friend to come to ur party, get MF's gear, and go all dps on him.
On May 31 2012 06:28 HQuality wrote: can't say, blizzard will nerf it as many others But you can still farm goblin in dark cellar Act I Quest 2, in the center of Old Tristram (few steps to the south from WP)
sorry can you elborate on that? you mean in the dark cellar (side dungeon) in the old ruins? If yes, I ran that a few times, no goblin, just a room full of zombies and maybe a normal chest. Sometimes it doesn't even appear.
I agree. Elaborate please
That's it. You simply didn't get lucky with the goblin spawn. The best way would be to find another friend or if you can 3 friends and they all farm the same goblin. Whenever you see the goblin, you just wait for ur friend to come to ur party, get MF's gear, and go all dps on him.
At worst, i got only 1 goblin spawn in 20 runs.
Kripp and Krippi been farming that all morning, basicly they got alot of yellows (stashpage full each) of wich they could sell about 6ish, rest were garbage. They had it running with 5 ppl tho, joining games that the goblins spawned in.
Its a gamble. Also they did it in HC and one of their friends got killed... lvl60... greed is good
Farming Siegebreaker in A3 can get you decent drops, and you can easily stack valor to 5 even if you are a bit undergeared since you get Tyrael to follow you everywhere on the quest. While you are at it check and do the Underbridge for a chance at a redespledent chest. Keep's depths can also have a redespledent chest on one of the levels. Search for those chests while stacking valor and then kill the boss.
Anybody knows if there's a difference between farming the aspect on spire level 1 (Where you walk past leah's ghost) and the one where you fight deckard cain etc.?
I did about 400 of the maghda/zultun/mira runs in the past week and I felt like drops got progressively worse a day before patch day. My wrist started hurting for the first time in a loooooooong time so I quit doing those runs. The monotony got to me finally. I was automatic as shit at doing em though as good as any bot could do it.
When I first started them I'd get sick 1h/2h axes/maces for over 1k dps. Now you rarely get those and even then prices dropped so much. They used to go 1 mil easily. I have 197% mf gear.
Another greed spawn is on the 'Path to Alcanus' waypoint in act 2. Seems to be about 30% for me, At the waypoint, the greed mob can spawn around there, as well as cultists, big mace wielders and some hounds. All melee mobs though and I have never seen a champion or elite right there so they are easy to kill.
You can also go immediately north for a high chance at a quest mob.
On May 30 2012 16:10 wei2coolman wrote: So they nerfed azmodan xp runs. What is the best XP run for leveling up? So far it seems that act 2 quest road alcarnus lt. vachem is best one i can find. any one else find good xp runs?
Either act 2 zultan kulle runs, if you do this with others you can exploit and turn this quest in a boatload of times just off of one kill (with 2 people you can turn it in 8 times with clever game switching, it is complicated tho and I haven't tried it yet). Or if playing alone, act 3 quest 1 (nightmare) siege bastion runs, this is a 20 second run where you let a cannon barrage kill a bunch of mobs for you, you can do this all the way from 25 to 60 as the experience stays profitable because you get a multikill bonus which scales with level.
That's nothing but disgusting
Sounds like a bunch of work with no enjoyment value. Kinda wonder why people wait 12 years for a game to turn it into a chore. Ah well... I guess if it's your cup of tea...
On May 30 2012 16:10 wei2coolman wrote: So they nerfed azmodan xp runs. What is the best XP run for leveling up? So far it seems that act 2 quest road alcarnus lt. vachem is best one i can find. any one else find good xp runs?
Either act 2 zultan kulle runs, if you do this with others you can exploit and turn this quest in a boatload of times just off of one kill (with 2 people you can turn it in 8 times with clever game switching, it is complicated tho and I haven't tried it yet). Or if playing alone, act 3 quest 1 (nightmare) siege bastion runs, this is a 20 second run where you let a cannon barrage kill a bunch of mobs for you, you can do this all the way from 25 to 60 as the experience stays profitable because you get a multikill bonus which scales with level.
That's nothing but disgusting
Sounds like a bunch of work with no enjoyment value. Kinda wonder why people wait 12 years for a game to turn it into a chore. Ah well... I guess if it's your cup of tea...
For some of us the game starts at higher difficulties. Normal and nightmare (and most of hell) have been made so easy, that they are really just time consuming. 2 champs to inferno is enough for me for now. If i want to level up my alts, i will prolly use some kind of trick too. Will take some time until i am interested in the no-challenge of normal and nm.
It was the same already in D2, I prolly played 1-2 champs per ladder to higher levels just by playing, but usually i had many accounts worth of 85+ champs at the end of the ladder.
On May 30 2012 16:10 wei2coolman wrote: So they nerfed azmodan xp runs. What is the best XP run for leveling up? So far it seems that act 2 quest road alcarnus lt. vachem is best one i can find. any one else find good xp runs?
Either act 2 zultan kulle runs, if you do this with others you can exploit and turn this quest in a boatload of times just off of one kill (with 2 people you can turn it in 8 times with clever game switching, it is complicated tho and I haven't tried it yet). Or if playing alone, act 3 quest 1 (nightmare) siege bastion runs, this is a 20 second run where you let a cannon barrage kill a bunch of mobs for you, you can do this all the way from 25 to 60 as the experience stays profitable because you get a multikill bonus which scales with level.
That's nothing but disgusting
Sounds like a bunch of work with no enjoyment value. Kinda wonder why people wait 12 years for a game to turn it into a chore. Ah well... I guess if it's your cup of tea...
Because it took me less than 15 hours to get to 60, rather than 60hours.
On May 30 2012 18:21 Danglars wrote: Curious if any of those Level10 blacksmith patterns have a chance to spawn PimaryStat/Vit/AllRes mods in it. At helms crafted for 51k and others about the same, could be a viable alternative. Just not gonna dump 400k to find out what the best I can hope for is.
I made gloves yesterday that had 50allresist and 400 armor with 100 vitality and like 40 strength. It is really nice. Can't wait for the commodity auction house to kick back up. I need more irridescent tears.
On May 30 2012 16:10 wei2coolman wrote: So they nerfed azmodan xp runs. What is the best XP run for leveling up? So far it seems that act 2 quest road alcarnus lt. vachem is best one i can find. any one else find good xp runs?
Either act 2 zultan kulle runs, if you do this with others you can exploit and turn this quest in a boatload of times just off of one kill (with 2 people you can turn it in 8 times with clever game switching, it is complicated tho and I haven't tried it yet). Or if playing alone, act 3 quest 1 (nightmare) siege bastion runs, this is a 20 second run where you let a cannon barrage kill a bunch of mobs for you, you can do this all the way from 25 to 60 as the experience stays profitable because you get a multikill bonus which scales with level.
That's nothing but disgusting
Sounds like a bunch of work with no enjoyment value. Kinda wonder why people wait 12 years for a game to turn it into a chore. Ah well... I guess if it's your cup of tea...
Because it took me less than 15 hours to get to 60, rather than 60hours.
one might argue that 60 hours of fun are better than 15 hours of grinding the same spot over and over again.
On June 01 2012 00:42 kiklion wrote: Another greed spawn is on the 'Path to Alcanus' waypoint in act 2. Seems to be about 30% for me, At the waypoint, the greed mob can spawn around there, as well as cultists, big mace wielders and some hounds. All melee mobs though and I have never seen a champion or elite right there so they are easy to kill.
You can also go immediately north for a high chance at a quest mob.
Been doing a bunch of these runs in the last few hours, just got a legendary worth over 1mil from a goblin with my magic find set. They can spawn all over this place, maybe higher than 30% spawn. Lots of random corpses and such for gold looting. I have seen maybe 4 elites spawn, however it was a named one and super low health.
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
Budget 1m~ per piece of equipment and you've made a start. The amount you need to really be successful in A2 is absurd compared to previous acts, though you can get away with a really good weapon and olympic gymnast kiting skills if you're wiz/dh.
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
In a lot of ways act 2 is the hardest act mostly because of things like the lacuni ability to leap at your while being invulnerable and has a mortar ability that can 1 shot you while not being an elite
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
In a lot of ways act 2 is the hardest act mostly because of things like the lacuni ability to leap at your while being invulnerable and has a mortar ability that can 1 shot you while not being an elite
Is it? I thought act 2 was hard coming from act 1, but after seeing tongue demons in act 3 I sure miss the lacuni.
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
In a lot of ways act 2 is the hardest act mostly because of things like the lacuni ability to leap at your while being invulnerable and has a mortar ability that can 1 shot you while not being an elite
Is it? I thought act 2 was hard coming from act 1, but after seeing tongue demons in act 3 I sure miss the lacuni.
I think Act 3 and Act 4 are harder, but because of the HUGE difference between act 1 and act 2, and the smaller difference between 2 and 3, it doesn't feel this way?
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
Budget 1m~ per piece of equipment and you've made a start. The amount you need to really be successful in A2 is absurd compared to previous acts, though you can get away with a really good weapon and olympic gymnast kiting skills if you're wiz/dh.
Don't need 1mil per equipment... Just 100-200k a piece on intelligent choices.
This is for barbarian, other classes don't need anything close to that
On May 30 2012 17:23 rems wrote: If you want a good place to farm with crap gear, try the underbridge. It's a real easy run for a demon hunter (Use vault and smokescreen so you dont have to fight), check the underbridge for resplendet chest. Underbridge not there, or no chest in it -> leave game, resume game. Rinse and repeat.
Easiest run ever, if you want you can let tyrael clear mobs for you while you are dead.
Edit: You want to do this on inferno difficulty btw. You don't need to have act 3 unlocked, just use the 'exploit' to get into the game. Im not going into detail here, it has been said a thousand times how to do it.
Before anyone wastes their time doing this....it has been nerfed (quite a while ago actually). The chest has a significantly lowered spawn rate now.
I've been doing it all day and it spawns well over 3/4 of the times I enter Underbridge.
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
Budget 1m~ per piece of equipment and you've made a start. The amount you need to really be successful in A2 is absurd compared to previous acts, though you can get away with a really good weapon and olympic gymnast kiting skills if you're wiz/dh.
Don't need 1mil per equipment... Just 100-200k a piece on intelligent choices.
This is for barbarian, other classes don't need anything close to that
assuming you can find them. I swear, I havent found shoulders below 700k as a viable upgrade from mine (currently don't have allres). I try to budget 200-500k or so per piece.
I'm more or less saving up for a new weapon, I'm at 34k dps (1180 .9 2h with 20% speed), but I feel that is just too low, stuff isn't being killed fast enough. Belial is a bitch cause adds just don't die fast enough while dealing with Belial smacking me. Also health globes don't drop enough to keep me topped off, lol.
I think I almost made it to P3 once, but yeah... It's a struggle cause I'm always out of AP and seeker / attunement magic missles just don't deal enough damage.
I doubt ill ever get to the point that mobs hit for <35% of my life total to the point that prismatic armor becomes viable =\ Then again, I probably would want to keep force armor for phase 3.
yeah Ive been trying to do siegebreaker but when its not just the green arm long range nuker that one shots me but every mob with a ranged weapon, costs in repair was going over the money I was getting from farms lol.
On June 02 2012 13:23 padfoota wrote: yeah Ive been trying to do siegebreaker but when its not just the green arm long range nuker that one shots me but every mob with a ranged weapon, costs in repair was going over the money I was getting from farms lol.
I know what you mean. If my attention wavers even for an instant, then a spear comes out of nowhere and kills me. And all the stutter stepping gets very tiring... I'm so glad I have a crossbow because stutter stepping at more than 2 attacks a second sounds like way too much trouble. Seriously, farming is hard work.
On June 02 2012 13:23 padfoota wrote: yeah Ive been trying to do siegebreaker but when its not just the green arm long range nuker that one shots me but every mob with a ranged weapon, costs in repair was going over the money I was getting from farms lol.
start Siegebreaker quest, clear to Siegebreaker entrance to see if there are any elites on the way, then go to town and start clearing the signal light/catapult sections at the beginning of A3 until you get 5 stacks then kill Siegebreaker
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
In a lot of ways act 2 is the hardest act mostly because of things like the lacuni ability to leap at your while being invulnerable and has a mortar ability that can 1 shot you while not being an elite
Is it? I thought act 2 was hard coming from act 1, but after seeing tongue demons in act 3 I sure miss the lacuni.
lickers tend to be the exception to the rule for act 3. Besides that the mechanics for the mobs in act 2 work against the player more than the ones in act 3. As mentioned though its not purely this reason why the jump from act 1 to 2 is considered so hard. a big part of it deals with the leap in gear needed to do any specific act
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
Budget 1m~ per piece of equipment and you've made a start. The amount you need to really be successful in A2 is absurd compared to previous acts, though you can get away with a really good weapon and olympic gymnast kiting skills if you're wiz/dh.
Don't need 1mil per equipment... Just 100-200k a piece on intelligent choices.
This is for barbarian, other classes don't need anything close to that
assuming you can find them. I swear, I havent found shoulders below 700k as a viable upgrade from mine (currently don't have allres). I try to budget 200-500k or so per piece.
I'm more or less saving up for a new weapon, I'm at 34k dps (1180 .9 2h with 20% speed), but I feel that is just too low, stuff isn't being killed fast enough. Belial is a bitch cause adds just don't die fast enough while dealing with Belial smacking me. Also health globes don't drop enough to keep me topped off, lol.
I think I almost made it to P3 once, but yeah... It's a struggle cause I'm always out of AP and seeker / attunement magic missles just don't deal enough damage.
I doubt ill ever get to the point that mobs hit for <35% of my life total to the point that prismatic armor becomes viable =\ Then again, I probably would want to keep force armor for phase 3.
You know there's a magic missile upgrade that makes them do more damage, right? Charged Blast is 143%, which isn't far off from AO - spammability makes it the best for bosses imo.
I don't understand the fascination with seeker in PvE where nothing attempts to dodge.
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
Budget 1m~ per piece of equipment and you've made a start. The amount you need to really be successful in A2 is absurd compared to previous acts, though you can get away with a really good weapon and olympic gymnast kiting skills if you're wiz/dh.
Don't need 1mil per equipment... Just 100-200k a piece on intelligent choices.
This is for barbarian, other classes don't need anything close to that
assuming you can find them. I swear, I havent found shoulders below 700k as a viable upgrade from mine (currently don't have allres). I try to budget 200-500k or so per piece.
I'm more or less saving up for a new weapon, I'm at 34k dps (1180 .9 2h with 20% speed), but I feel that is just too low, stuff isn't being killed fast enough. Belial is a bitch cause adds just don't die fast enough while dealing with Belial smacking me. Also health globes don't drop enough to keep me topped off, lol.
I think I almost made it to P3 once, but yeah... It's a struggle cause I'm always out of AP and seeker / attunement magic missles just don't deal enough damage.
I doubt ill ever get to the point that mobs hit for <35% of my life total to the point that prismatic armor becomes viable =\ Then again, I probably would want to keep force armor for phase 3.
You know there's a magic missile upgrade that makes them do more damage, right? Charged Blast is 143%, which isn't far off from AO - spammability makes it the best for bosses imo.
I don't understand the fascination with seeker in PvE where nothing attempts to dodge.
It's cause seeker turns corners, and can be used as a way to let you know you are about to walk into enemies.
On June 02 2012 08:51 Ktk wrote: Act 2 is also hard because theres a lot of elites that you really don't want to deal with, a lot of fast-moving mobs that are essentially unavoidable.
Is prereq for A2 inferno really widely considered 1 mil per item? Holy shiiii....
So its best to do warden+butcher 5stack runs until I can afford all my parts for >1m? My gad. D:
I never had more than 500k during act 2 and didnt spend more than 50k on parts, as a wizard I had something like 30k dps 20k hp and 150 resists nothing extraordinarily expensive The hardest part was belial, but with the right skillset and a lot of perseverance he went down :D
As of farm locations the cave in the oasis in which you get the liquid rainbow seems juicy
On June 02 2012 08:51 Ktk wrote: Act 2 is also hard because theres a lot of elites that you really don't want to deal with, a lot of fast-moving mobs that are essentially unavoidable.
Is prereq for A2 inferno really widely considered 1 mil per item? Holy shiiii....
So its best to do warden+butcher 5stack runs until I can afford all my parts for >1m? My gad. D:
I never had more than 500k during act 2 and didnt spend more than 50k on parts, as a wizard I had something like 30k dps 20k hp and 150 resists nothing extraordinarily expensive The hardest part was belial, but with the right skillset and a lot of perseverance he went down :D
As of farm locations the cave in the oasis in which you get the liquid rainbow seems juicy
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
Budget 1m~ per piece of equipment and you've made a start. The amount you need to really be successful in A2 is absurd compared to previous acts, though you can get away with a really good weapon and olympic gymnast kiting skills if you're wiz/dh.
Don't need 1mil per equipment... Just 100-200k a piece on intelligent choices.
This is for barbarian, other classes don't need anything close to that
assuming you can find them. I swear, I havent found shoulders below 700k as a viable upgrade from mine (currently don't have allres). I try to budget 200-500k or so per piece.
I'm more or less saving up for a new weapon, I'm at 34k dps (1180 .9 2h with 20% speed), but I feel that is just too low, stuff isn't being killed fast enough. Belial is a bitch cause adds just don't die fast enough while dealing with Belial smacking me. Also health globes don't drop enough to keep me topped off, lol.
I think I almost made it to P3 once, but yeah... It's a struggle cause I'm always out of AP and seeker / attunement magic missles just don't deal enough damage.
I doubt ill ever get to the point that mobs hit for <35% of my life total to the point that prismatic armor becomes viable =\ Then again, I probably would want to keep force armor for phase 3.
You know there's a magic missile upgrade that makes them do more damage, right? Charged Blast is 143%, which isn't far off from AO - spammability makes it the best for bosses imo.
I don't understand the fascination with seeker in PvE where nothing attempts to dodge.
It's cause seeker turns corners, and can be used as a way to let you know you are about to walk into enemies.
How many corners are there when fighting an Act boss like Belial, as he mentioned?
Hydra does the same thing about enemy sighting btw
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
Budget 1m~ per piece of equipment and you've made a start. The amount you need to really be successful in A2 is absurd compared to previous acts, though you can get away with a really good weapon and olympic gymnast kiting skills if you're wiz/dh.
Don't need 1mil per equipment... Just 100-200k a piece on intelligent choices.
This is for barbarian, other classes don't need anything close to that
assuming you can find them. I swear, I havent found shoulders below 700k as a viable upgrade from mine (currently don't have allres). I try to budget 200-500k or so per piece.
I'm more or less saving up for a new weapon, I'm at 34k dps (1180 .9 2h with 20% speed), but I feel that is just too low, stuff isn't being killed fast enough. Belial is a bitch cause adds just don't die fast enough while dealing with Belial smacking me. Also health globes don't drop enough to keep me topped off, lol.
I think I almost made it to P3 once, but yeah... It's a struggle cause I'm always out of AP and seeker / attunement magic missles just don't deal enough damage.
I doubt ill ever get to the point that mobs hit for <35% of my life total to the point that prismatic armor becomes viable =\ Then again, I probably would want to keep force armor for phase 3.
You know there's a magic missile upgrade that makes them do more damage, right? Charged Blast is 143%, which isn't far off from AO - spammability makes it the best for bosses imo.
I don't understand the fascination with seeker in PvE where nothing attempts to dodge.
It's cause seeker turns corners, and can be used as a way to let you know you are about to walk into enemies.
How many corners are there when fighting an Act boss like Belial, as he mentioned?
Hydra does the same thing about enemy sighting btw
the guy you are quoting was responding to this:
I don't understand the fascination with seeker in PvE where nothing attempts to dodge.
On June 01 2012 21:09 Figgy wrote: If you are having trouble in Act 1, good luck in Act 2 <_< You are going to have to more than double your gear. It's insane.
I rolled through Act I, got raped so hard in Act 2, spend one million on AH, still got raped in Act 2. Fucking....shit...fuck.
Budget 1m~ per piece of equipment and you've made a start. The amount you need to really be successful in A2 is absurd compared to previous acts, though you can get away with a really good weapon and olympic gymnast kiting skills if you're wiz/dh.
Don't need 1mil per equipment... Just 100-200k a piece on intelligent choices.
This is for barbarian, other classes don't need anything close to that
assuming you can find them. I swear, I havent found shoulders below 700k as a viable upgrade from mine (currently don't have allres). I try to budget 200-500k or so per piece.
I'm more or less saving up for a new weapon, I'm at 34k dps (1180 .9 2h with 20% speed), but I feel that is just too low, stuff isn't being killed fast enough. Belial is a bitch cause adds just don't die fast enough while dealing with Belial smacking me. Also health globes don't drop enough to keep me topped off, lol.
I think I almost made it to P3 once, but yeah... It's a struggle cause I'm always out of AP and seeker / attunement magic missles just don't deal enough damage.
I doubt ill ever get to the point that mobs hit for <35% of my life total to the point that prismatic armor becomes viable =\ Then again, I probably would want to keep force armor for phase 3.
You know there's a magic missile upgrade that makes them do more damage, right? Charged Blast is 143%, which isn't far off from AO - spammability makes it the best for bosses imo.
I don't understand the fascination with seeker in PvE where nothing attempts to dodge.
It's cause seeker turns corners, and can be used as a way to let you know you are about to walk into enemies.
How many corners are there when fighting an Act boss like Belial, as he mentioned?
Hydra does the same thing about enemy sighting btw
I don't understand the fascination with seeker in PvE where nothing attempts to dodge.
I know, that was my post, which was responding to the guy talking about having trouble with Belial.
As for general PvE, I stand by my point - the amount of time you don't have a clear shot at something that's chasing you is incredibly slim compared to the damage you'd gain by using charged blast.
On June 03 2012 04:24 Chairman Ray wrote: Anyone for siegebreaker wp they can donate? ChairmanRay#1715
- load siegebreaker on hell. - quit. - join public siegebreaker on inferno - quit - resume - realize you are not cut out for siegebreaker on inferno - quit - load butcher
On June 03 2012 04:24 Chairman Ray wrote: Anyone for siegebreaker wp they can donate? ChairmanRay#1715
- load siegebreaker on hell. - quit. - join public siegebreaker on inferno - quit - resume - realize you are not cut out for siegebreaker on inferno - quit - load butcher
That doesn't work assuming he wants the waypoint before siege breaker on the bridge
On June 03 2012 04:24 Chairman Ray wrote: Anyone for siegebreaker wp they can donate? ChairmanRay#1715
- load siegebreaker on hell. - quit. - join public siegebreaker on inferno - quit - resume - realize you are not cut out for siegebreaker on inferno - quit - load butcher
Worked! Killed Siegebreaker on first try too Thanks!
On June 03 2012 04:24 Chairman Ray wrote: Anyone for siegebreaker wp they can donate? ChairmanRay#1715
- load siegebreaker on hell. - quit. - join public siegebreaker on inferno - quit - resume - realize you are not cut out for siegebreaker on inferno - quit - load butcher
Siegebreaker is easy, only died once when I was firing at him offscreen and didn't see him doing the animation for the charge.
On June 03 2012 04:24 Chairman Ray wrote: Anyone for siegebreaker wp they can donate? ChairmanRay#1715
- load siegebreaker on hell. - quit. - join public siegebreaker on inferno - quit - resume - realize you are not cut out for siegebreaker on inferno - quit - load butcher
Huh... I though they actually fixed this since I couldn't get into act 4 inferno anymore. If I knew I would have just skipped the keeps.
I would like to know if you guys can suggest me a good spot to farm money because i need it for obvious reasons, here is a picture with my stats atm, btw i have zero money for chance something:
Im really struggling with Inferno, i mean Wow. I had to switch from my AO build to blizz / venom hydra because i just cant kite enough or do enough damage, even with this build i cant, but it makes it alot easier.
Ive also started using hydra/blizz because you dont need IAS or Crit, which is cheaper xD.
I need some help optimising my character, build, places to farm, the whole lot, i'll post my info and hopefully you can point me in a good direction on where to farm and what to focus on getting stats wise.
Build: Venom hydra, Blizzard (20ap), frost nova shatter, teleport (wormhole), Magic weapon (+15%), Energy / Force armor. Passives: Blur, Glass Cannon, Cold blooded
Im not sure why im struggling so much, Its really difficult for me to kill any elite pack in act 1 Inf. Should i be farming hell for now? or what, im very confused as to where to start farming.
As for my build, any tweaks u could recommend? Perhaps teleport / fracture instead..
Thanks guys
I just sold a legendary for 300k and realised that in order to upgrade my gear, I needed about 200-250k Minimum for any marginal upgrade. I ended up getting a helm with 600 armor, +59 all res, 80 int / vit and other shit, for 200k. I thought i'd be able to get alot more out of my money lol. Even a 150 upgrade on my 1k dps weapon (1.15k) was 250k. Amazing.
On June 03 2012 06:32 Capped wrote: Im really struggling with Inferno, i mean Wow. I had to switch from my AO build to blizz / venom hydra because i just cant kite enough or do enough damage, even with this build i cant, but it makes it alot easier.
Ive also started using hydra/blizz because you dont need IAS or Crit, which is cheaper xD.
I need some help optimising my character, build, places to farm, the whole lot, i'll post my info and hopefully you can point me in a good direction on where to farm and what to focus on getting stats wise.
Build: Venom hydra, Blizzard (20ap), frost nova shatter, teleport (wormhole), Magic weapon (+15%), Energy / Force armor. Passives: Blur, Glass Cannon, Cold blooded
Im not sure why im struggling so much, Its really difficult for me to kill any elite pack in act 1 Inf. Should i be farming hell for now? or what, im very confused as to where to start farming.
As for my build, any tweaks u could recommend? Perhaps teleport / fracture instead..
Thanks guys
I just sold a legendary for 300k and realised that in order to upgrade my gear, I needed about 200-250k Minimum for any marginal upgrade. I ended up getting a helm with 600 armor, +59 all res, 80 int / vit and other shit, for 200k. I thought i'd be able to get alot more out of my money lol. Even a 150 upgrade on my 1k dps weapon (1.15k) was 250k. Amazing.
Are you sure you're controlling properly? I don't know anything about wizards but your DPS and everything else should be good, maybe you just aren't using an optimal build? The elites in act 1 really aren't that tough either, try looking at your skills and thinking everything over. However I think your hp is a little bit low
Does anyone know how the loot from a resplendent chest stacks up versus a boss? I've been farming some chests in act 3 and also killing siegebreaker and some elites for about 6 hours today. It feels to me like I'm more likely to get rares from the bosses/elites than the chests. Is this true or am I deluding myself that the route that requires work gives the better loot?
step by step. start farming weak blue elites in inferno a1 once you have the fear for it. go on with butcher runs as soon as you can do it (5 nepha --> warden --> butcher) if you can do that without ANY problems, go ahead in a2 (elites in a2 are harder than the butcher himself) same goes for a3 - this is where i am right now. i can kill belial solo without problems, any elite groups without problems in a2 - but a3 is a whole different level.
if you have trouble in a1 inferno for now, its normal. but prepair yourself to have the same kind of experience when u try yourself in a2.
I just sold a legendary for 300k and realised that in order to upgrade my gear, I needed about 200-250k Minimum for any marginal upgrade. I ended up getting a helm with 600 armor, +59 all res, 80 int / vit and other shit, for 200k. i thought i would get a lot more out of it
you probably made the best deal there ever was in d3 with that helmet. wtf man, are the prices so much lower on US?
€: what about all these "do random trick A to have an easy loot" guys here - if there was an easy way to maphack in sc2 and you were 100% sure to not get caught - would u use it as well? i have too much honor to play like that, to say it like the templar does.
I'm playing this game co-op with my 66 year old mom. We can't get past Inferno SK. Some of it is play skill, but a lot is gear.
Should we just do Old Ruins runs or is there somewhere in Hell that would do better? We seem to be getting too many items less than level 60 in Inferno. However, if we go back to Hell we won't be getting Inferno crafting mats and I think once 1.0.3 goes live that crafting might be an option again.
We also don't have the gold to go AH shopping to fix our situation either.
On June 03 2012 13:34 diophan wrote: Does anyone know how the loot from a resplendent chest stacks up versus a boss? I've been farming some chests in act 3 and also killing siegebreaker and some elites for about 6 hours today. It feels to me like I'm more likely to get rares from the bosses/elites than the chests. Is this true or am I deluding myself that the route that requires work gives the better loot?
I've been doing Siegebreaker runs today (check for depths lvl 1 chest, if its there get stacks, do the chest and siegebreaker) and I thought the same. Siegebreaker dropped 3-5 rares while the chest was more between 0-3.
On June 03 2012 13:34 diophan wrote: Does anyone know how the loot from a resplendent chest stacks up versus a boss? I've been farming some chests in act 3 and also killing siegebreaker and some elites for about 6 hours today. It feels to me like I'm more likely to get rares from the bosses/elites than the chests. Is this true or am I deluding myself that the route that requires work gives the better loot?
I've been doing Siegebreaker runs today (check for depths lvl 1 chest, if its there get stacks, do the chest and siegebreaker) and I thought the same. Siegebreaker dropped 3-5 rares while the chest was more between 0-3.
Where have you been grabbing your rare packs from we're doing basically the same run. I've just been going to the fields of strife looking for the caverns of frost to get another chest and there are usually 2 chests there so I end up with around 4 stacks of NV for siegebreaker.
On June 03 2012 15:07 diophan wrote: Where have you been grabbing your rare packs from we're doing basically the same run. I've just been going to the fields of strife looking for the caverns of frost to get another chest and there are usually 2 chests there so I end up with around 4 stacks of NV for siegebreaker.
Rakki's Crossing WP, move forward, usually 1 pack before Siegebreaker entrance, and 1 pack inside the Underbridge if it spawns. TP, take Bridge of Korsikk WP, anywhere from 2-4 packs in the Fields of Strife, and another potential pack if you get Icefall/Caverns of Frost (I never go deeper than level 1). Go from Fields of Slaughter forward into Rakki's Crossing for 1 more pack if you need it -- look out for the spyglass event (dead guy at the bottom of stairs), which can spawn a half-pack of Moloks, usually an easy kill. If you get really, really unlucky, you might have to go to Stonefort or Keep Depths.
With average gear for a DH, this run can take me anywhere from 30 minutes to over an hour.
edit: some people also use the Barracks/Fortress random dungeon outside the Arreat Gate to fill stacks.
Can someone help me get the siegebreaker quest so I can attempt to do these runs? I would be very grateful. (I think I just need to join your game while your on the quest and get the appropriate waypoint(s) but I'm not sure, only in Act 2 atm)
On June 03 2012 15:07 diophan wrote: Where have you been grabbing your rare packs from we're doing basically the same run. I've just been going to the fields of strife looking for the caverns of frost to get another chest and there are usually 2 chests there so I end up with around 4 stacks of NV for siegebreaker.
Rakki's Crossing WP, move forward, usually 1 pack before Siegebreaker entrance, and 1 pack inside the Underbridge if it spawns. TP, take Bridge of Korsikk WP, anywhere from 2-4 packs in the Fields of Strife, and another potential pack if you get Icefall/Caverns of Frost (I never go deeper than level 1). Go from Fields of Slaughter forward into Rakki's Crossing for 1 more pack if you need it -- look out for the spyglass event (dead guy at the bottom of stairs), which can spawn a half-pack of Moloks, usually an easy kill. If you get really, really unlucky, you might have to go to Stonefort or Keep Depths.
With average gear for a DH, this run can take me anywhere from 30 minutes to over an hour.
edit: some people also use the Barracks/Fortress random dungeon outside the Arreat Gate to fill stacks.
You really don't think it's worth it to go into level 2 because AFAIK it's a guaranteed resplendent chest there? Sometimes I don't if I already have 5 stacks and like haven't even found the cave yet but if I'm done/almost done clearing the first floor already I just do the extra floor for the chest.
On June 04 2012 02:54 keyStorm wrote: you can actually farm bosses ? how to do it????
To do inferno butcher you start on the Cursed Hold quest of the Imprisoned Angel and enter at the halls of agony lvl 2. By the time you reach the warden you should have 5 stacks of NV (if not, go get a champion pack in a crypt in the cemetery) and then go do butcher.
Anyone figured out the best goldfarming area? I don't really need gear, I just need gold. I'm running 150% gold find, anyone know best area to farm out for gold?
On June 04 2012 04:19 wei2coolman wrote: Anyone figured out the best goldfarming area? I don't really need gear, I just need gold. I'm running 150% gold find, anyone know best area to farm out for gold?
I know running through the end of act 3 nightmare is a pretty good rate. I start at the quest The Heart of Sin, choosing part 2 i think called second heart. Take waypoint to Arreat Crater level 2 and push on toward spider queen, using all aoe/speed skills and getting getting NV stacked to 5. Kill spider queen then on to azmodan and restart.
I've tried starting at tower of the cursed level 1 instead but with that route you usually only get 3-4 stacks of NV for spider queen so I'm not sure if it's better or not.
With 110% gold find and 12 yards to pick up (this saves a LOT of time to have pick up radius, it makes this go by sooo faster) I make an average of 40-50k gold per 10 mins, plus some rares may be sellable. I pick up blues and insta sell them but some people just skip over blues so they don't have to port back twice, just preference.
On June 04 2012 02:39 skyR wrote: You need to complete the quest for wavepoint. Just create the quest on Hell, join a public game on Inferno, leave and resume to play solo.
On June 04 2012 04:19 wei2coolman wrote: Anyone figured out the best goldfarming area? I don't really need gear, I just need gold. I'm running 150% gold find, anyone know best area to farm out for gold?
I know running through the end of act 3 nightmare is a pretty good rate. I start at the quest The Heart of Sin, choosing part 2 i think called second heart. Take waypoint to Arreat Crater level 2 and push on toward spider queen, using all aoe/speed skills and getting getting NV stacked to 5. Kill spider queen then on to azmodan and restart.
I've tried starting at tower of the cursed level 1 instead but with that route you usually only get 3-4 stacks of NV for spider queen so I'm not sure if it's better or not.
With 110% gold find and 12 yards to pick up (this saves a LOT of time to have pick up radius, it makes this go by sooo faster) I make an average of 40-50k gold per 10 mins, plus some rares may be sellable. I pick up blues and insta sell them but some people just skip over blues so they don't have to port back twice, just preference.
Why nightmare rather then hell? Just for faster killing?
On June 04 2012 03:01 Skyro wrote: You really don't think it's worth it to go into level 2 because AFAIK it's a guaranteed resplendent chest there? Sometimes I don't if I already have 5 stacks and like haven't even found the cave yet but if I'm done/almost done clearing the first floor already I just do the extra floor for the chest.
I didn't know it was a guaranteed resplendent. If that's the case, sure, go for it.
Oh man yesterday was an hardcore farming session for us.
4 man act 3 Keep Deep lvl 1 wp chest farming for 7 hours straight.
We got :
1 Jeweler plan lvl 14 1 Jeweler plan lvl 15 2 legendary 1 hand 25% mf 1 set belt (not tal) 1 rare plan for wiz source with 6 properties 1 random legendary and a fuck tons of blues and yellows.
Anyone got any success with this chest or got another chest to farm?
I just goblin farm in act 2, over the past two days got three blacksmith plans, stormshield, a (somewhat worthless) set item. Also some random decent stuff (eg. 19% gf rings and whatnot)
When I go home tonight I'll try what you guys are doing though. Out of question what is your dps (all of you)?
On June 04 2012 22:37 FairForever wrote: I just goblin farm in act 2, over the past two days got three blacksmith plans, stormshield, a (somewhat worthless) set item. Also some random decent stuff (eg. 19% gf rings and whatnot)
When I go home tonight I'll try what you guys are doing though. Out of question what is your dps (all of you)?
We have no dps, we don't kill anything. We teleport/run to check if the chest is there, if not we leave (each in a separate game.). Each run is 10-12 sec.
On June 04 2012 22:37 FairForever wrote: I just goblin farm in act 2, over the past two days got three blacksmith plans, stormshield, a (somewhat worthless) set item. Also some random decent stuff (eg. 19% gf rings and whatnot)
When I go home tonight I'll try what you guys are doing though. Out of question what is your dps (all of you)?
We have no dps, we don't kill anything. We teleport/run to check if the chest is there, if not we leave (each in a separate game.). Each run is 10-12 sec.
We all have over 200 mf.
When the chest spawns, is it always clear of mobs then or do you just switch sets?
On June 04 2012 22:37 FairForever wrote: I just goblin farm in act 2, over the past two days got three blacksmith plans, stormshield, a (somewhat worthless) set item. Also some random decent stuff (eg. 19% gf rings and whatnot)
When I go home tonight I'll try what you guys are doing though. Out of question what is your dps (all of you)?
We have no dps, we don't kill anything. We teleport/run to check if the chest is there, if not we leave (each in a separate game.). Each run is 10-12 sec.
When the chest spawns, is it always clear of mobs then or do you just switch sets?
There is often a fuck ton of mobs. either we all go from wp and try to loot it all but often we use the DH fear for 3 of us and then we make a few try for the last guy. We spawn on a dead man flag who is right on the chest. We usually get all of our loot within 1 minute.
On June 04 2012 23:24 Patrio wrote:
Where is the chest?
The chest is on the right of the wp. There is 3 pattern. When there is a second wall (2 small room in a row) it's not the good one.
The right patern has 1 wall after the wp, then a big room and a bridge. You have 1 chance on 6 to have the chest.
You can also get a second chest right after the first door just a bit south. In all of our runs we only got 2x 2 chest.
When the chest spawns, is it always clear of mobs then or do you just switch sets?
There is often a fuck ton of mobs. either we all go from wp and try to loot it all but often we use the DH fear for 3 of us and then we make a few try for the last guy. We spawn on a dead man flag who is right on the chest. We usually get all of our loot within 1 minute.
When the chest spawns, is it always clear of mobs then or do you just switch sets?
There is often a fuck ton of mobs. either we all go from wp and try to loot it all but often we use the DH fear for 3 of us and then we make a few try for the last guy. We spawn on a dead man flag who is right on the chest. We usually get all of our loot within 1 minute.
On June 05 2012 00:39 itsben wrote: Wait where exactly is the second chest? I know the one on the bridge but ive never seen/noticed another chest anywhere.
When you get past the first room door scout south, there is 2 small walls (the walls on the left of the room).
The chest is in front of the second wall.
As I said in the hundreds of runs we made we only got the 2nd chest 2 times and never got it alone without the bridge one.
First time we got it the skype conversation exploded "I GOT 2 CHEST OMG LOLOL"
On June 04 2012 22:37 FairForever wrote: I just goblin farm in act 2, over the past two days got three blacksmith plans, stormshield, a (somewhat worthless) set item. Also some random decent stuff (eg. 19% gf rings and whatnot)
When I go home tonight I'll try what you guys are doing though. Out of question what is your dps (all of you)?
On June 04 2012 22:37 FairForever wrote: I just goblin farm in act 2, over the past two days got three blacksmith plans, stormshield, a (somewhat worthless) set item. Also some random decent stuff (eg. 19% gf rings and whatnot)
When I go home tonight I'll try what you guys are doing though. Out of question what is your dps (all of you)?
Where do you goblin farm in act 2 specifically?
8th Act 2 WP, can't remember what it's called. Just go right, if you don't find it after the first two staircases (there should be 3) then it's not there. There are sometimes elites or purples, as well as regular mobs, so you have to be careful. I'd say spawn rate is about 33%
I'm at around 216 MF with hybrid dex/mf gear (virtually no health) though - hard to switch equip midway.
I want to try the keeps one (heard about it before) - what is the chest spawn rate? I'm not familiar with the layout either, how far do I have to go?
On June 04 2012 22:37 FairForever wrote: I just goblin farm in act 2, over the past two days got three blacksmith plans, stormshield, a (somewhat worthless) set item. Also some random decent stuff (eg. 19% gf rings and whatnot)
When I go home tonight I'll try what you guys are doing though. Out of question what is your dps (all of you)?
Where do you goblin farm in act 2 specifically?
Road to alcarnus just watch Kungen or any of the hc streamers they are all farming it on hc inferno.
On June 04 2012 22:37 FairForever wrote: I just goblin farm in act 2, over the past two days got three blacksmith plans, stormshield, a (somewhat worthless) set item. Also some random decent stuff (eg. 19% gf rings and whatnot)
When I go home tonight I'll try what you guys are doing though. Out of question what is your dps (all of you)?
Where do you goblin farm in act 2 specifically?
Road to alcarnus just watch Kungen or any of the hc streamers they are all farming it on hc inferno.
Wow is it more popular than act 3 chest farming? Are goblins typically better than chests? I never have chest farmed before so I don't really know.
I do get on average 2 rares per goblin kill though with 216 mf. Helps being a DH or Wizard as well.
On June 04 2012 22:37 FairForever wrote: I just goblin farm in act 2, over the past two days got three blacksmith plans, stormshield, a (somewhat worthless) set item. Also some random decent stuff (eg. 19% gf rings and whatnot)
When I go home tonight I'll try what you guys are doing though. Out of question what is your dps (all of you)?
Where do you goblin farm in act 2 specifically?
Road to alcarnus just watch Kungen or any of the hc streamers they are all farming it on hc inferno.
I just noticed, I actually farm a different one. I've tried the Road to Alcarnus one, it seems tougher to me. I might try it again though if the pros are doing it.
On June 04 2012 22:37 FairForever wrote: I just goblin farm in act 2, over the past two days got three blacksmith plans, stormshield, a (somewhat worthless) set item. Also some random decent stuff (eg. 19% gf rings and whatnot)
When I go home tonight I'll try what you guys are doing though. Out of question what is your dps (all of you)?
Where do you goblin farm in act 2 specifically?
Road to alcarnus just watch Kungen or any of the hc streamers they are all farming it on hc inferno.
I just noticed, I actually farm a different one. I've tried the Road to Alcarnus one, it seems tougher to me. I might try it again though if the pros are doing it.
All I'm seeing them do atm is take the wp and kill the goblin and leave and repeat - I'm sure there is more too it but that's all I've seen in the last 10 minutes or so.
Cant even fucking kill the act 2 goblin. 20k DPS, takes me like 3-4 minutes to even clear the trash mobs, try and take it on, escapes with 80% HP, wow..i suck balls
On June 05 2012 01:56 Capped wrote: Cant even fucking kill the act 2 goblin. 20k DPS, takes me like 3-4 minutes to even clear the trash mobs, try and take it on, escapes with 80% HP, wow..i suck balls
Have your friend or someone on TL that wants to farm as well help you out -- I find it is much easier to trap the goblin and dps him down while he's cc'd(I just stand under him and spam traps while dpsing, and my monk friend uses the mantra that increases damage done). Much easier than trying to chase him around solo, plus you have a higher chance of consistent goblin runs if someone else is doing it (joining the game of whoever got the goblin, works even better with 3-4 people).
I was trying to keep this a secret but since everyone and their mother chest farms in Act3 and it'll get patched within the week I might aswell give you guys this tip. Get to the "kill the siegebreaker" quest. Go to the level 1 wp and check if you have the chest. If it's there and you need to clear then take the wp to Rakkis crossing and instantly take the wp back to the chest and have Tyreal clear for you.
On June 04 2012 22:30 scDeluX wrote: Oh man yesterday was an hardcore farming session for us.
4 man act 3 Keep Deep lvl 1 wp chest farming for 7 hours straight.
We got :
1 Jeweler plan lvl 14 1 Jeweler plan lvl 15 2 legendary 1 hand 25% mf 1 set belt (not tal) 1 rare plan for wiz source with 6 properties 1 random legendary and a fuck tons of blues and yellows.
Anyone got any success with this chest or got another chest to farm?
I was farming the same chest all day yesterday as well. I was farming it for probably 8 or 9 hours and I made 9 million gold. Sometimes I did it on my own, sometimes a friend joined the search as well. Most we had were 2 people doing it at once. It's best to just suicide your way to the chest every game, no point in ever killing anything, just run through elites and mobs, loot chest, die, repeat. Vendoring all the trash pays for any kind of repair bills you get and then some. Very nice place to farm. I had over 200 mf.
I was doing the chest run thing in act 3 for a few hours not but lately all I keep getting is 2 blues. Have they hot-fixed it or have I just been unlucky? (got yellows almost every time the first few hours, 189%mf)
So tired of people describing what they get from their farming. "Stormshield, some random set item, a few plans". Ok...
I've farmed the act 2 goblin with a friend for three days. Probably about 150 goblin kills. I farmed aspects when it was a new thing. Probably did 6-700 aspect runs. I farmed chests in act 2 and 3 but not incredibly much, maybe just 30-40 chests. I've done about 50 butcher runs with 5 stacks, about 10 Siegebreaker runs with 5 stacks (took a long time though), and 10 Zultan runs with 5 stacks. I've done half the farming runs with 100+ MF (never noticed a difference, anyway).
What have I gotten from all this, you ask? (Ok you don't but I'll pretend you ask). NOTHING. Not a single legendary item. Not a single set item. Not any good rares. Not a single weapon above 1k dps. I've sold items for maybe 3 million and that was all from the aspects when it was new and I could sell 700 dps weapons.
Meanwhile I tell my friends about all the good farming locations and they get sick good items all the time. One of them got 3 set items in his first 10 goblins...
It's going to be pretty high variance when it comes to making money. One of my items sold for four million so obviously that was a big part of my profit. Most of the items were completely terrible. Sometimes I would get a rare five chests in a row, sometimes i'd get three rares in one chest and then sometimes I would have a bunch of chests in a row of a like one or two terrible blues.
I read some people saying they nerfed it but I don't know. Sometimes it felt like I was never going to find a chest and then all of a sudden I get three or four chests in a row. I tried it for an hour earlier after waking up and I had a similar deal. Couldn't find a chest for like 5-10 minutes and then boom 3 chests in a row. I don't think people understand the variance on something like this, or it really could have been nerfed, i don't know. I'll try more runs later on in the day but again I don't know if I can tell anything from the sample size.
It's very important to be as fast and efficient as possible. It only takes about five to ten seconds to create and leave and that includes determining if it's the correct layout. Trying to fight your way to the chest just takes up too much time. You could be creating a couple new games in the time it takes to do that. Always be thinking about your next game.
On June 05 2012 05:07 Ramanujan wrote: So tired of people describing what they get from their farming. "Stormshield, some random set item, a few plans". Ok...
I've farmed the act 2 goblin with a friend for three days. Probably about 150 goblin kills. I farmed aspects when it was a new thing. Probably did 6-700 aspect runs. I farmed chests in act 2 and 3 but not incredibly much, maybe just 30-40 chests. I've done about 50 butcher runs with 5 stacks, about 10 Siegebreaker runs with 5 stacks (took a long time though), and 10 Zultan runs with 5 stacks. I've done half the farming runs with 100+ MF (never noticed a difference, anyway).
What have I gotten from all this, you ask? (Ok you don't but I'll pretend you ask). NOTHING. Not a single legendary item. Not a single set item. Not any good rares. Not a single weapon above 1k dps. I've sold items for maybe 3 million and that was all from the aspects when it was new and I could sell 700 dps weapons.
Meanwhile I tell my friends about all the good farming locations and they get sick good items all the time. One of them got 3 set items in his first 10 goblins...
What's your secret?
tell me about it, I have the same problem. Now I walk around with 190mf and still only find crap. The worst part though is my brother plays with me and does not care for mf, he has found 1 green and 2 orange items, me neither
On June 04 2012 22:30 scDeluX wrote: Oh man yesterday was an hardcore farming session for us.
4 man act 3 Keep Deep lvl 1 wp chest farming for 7 hours straight.
We got :
1 Jeweler plan lvl 14 1 Jeweler plan lvl 15 2 legendary 1 hand 25% mf 1 set belt (not tal) 1 rare plan for wiz source with 6 properties 1 random legendary and a fuck tons of blues and yellows.
Anyone got any success with this chest or got another chest to farm?
Did this get hotfixed today? I've restarted the game like 15 times and still haven't got the proper layout.
On June 05 2012 05:07 Ramanujan wrote: So tired of people describing what they get from their farming. "Stormshield, some random set item, a few plans". Ok...
I've farmed the act 2 goblin with a friend for three days. Probably about 150 goblin kills. I farmed aspects when it was a new thing. Probably did 6-700 aspect runs. I farmed chests in act 2 and 3 but not incredibly much, maybe just 30-40 chests. I've done about 50 butcher runs with 5 stacks, about 10 Siegebreaker runs with 5 stacks (took a long time though), and 10 Zultan runs with 5 stacks. I've done half the farming runs with 100+ MF (never noticed a difference, anyway).
What have I gotten from all this, you ask? (Ok you don't but I'll pretend you ask). NOTHING. Not a single legendary item. Not a single set item. Not any good rares. Not a single weapon above 1k dps. I've sold items for maybe 3 million and that was all from the aspects when it was new and I could sell 700 dps weapons.
Meanwhile I tell my friends about all the good farming locations and they get sick good items all the time. One of them got 3 set items in his first 10 goblins...
What's your secret?
I've been running 231 MF, did about 100 act 3 chest runs in total, never found a single decent item, but been making quite a bit selling the loot for 50-100k a piece. Even without getting good drops, farming is still good income.
Apologies in advance, but is it better to do Warden/Butcher 5 stack or Maghda 5 stack? I can do W/B easily, and M depending on the last champion/elite spawn. I never seem to get any good drops from Maghda, but heard from somewhere that she drops much better equipment than the other two?
On June 05 2012 05:07 Ramanujan wrote: So tired of people describing what they get from their farming. "Stormshield, some random set item, a few plans". Ok...
I've farmed the act 2 goblin with a friend for three days. Probably about 150 goblin kills. I farmed aspects when it was a new thing. Probably did 6-700 aspect runs. I farmed chests in act 2 and 3 but not incredibly much, maybe just 30-40 chests. I've done about 50 butcher runs with 5 stacks, about 10 Siegebreaker runs with 5 stacks (took a long time though), and 10 Zultan runs with 5 stacks. I've done half the farming runs with 100+ MF (never noticed a difference, anyway).
What have I gotten from all this, you ask? (Ok you don't but I'll pretend you ask). NOTHING. Not a single legendary item. Not a single set item. Not any good rares. Not a single weapon above 1k dps. I've sold items for maybe 3 million and that was all from the aspects when it was new and I could sell 700 dps weapons.
Meanwhile I tell my friends about all the good farming locations and they get sick good items all the time. One of them got 3 set items in his first 10 goblins...
What's your secret?
Get more MF man, I have 216mf and refuse to run with anyone less than 190 (so it averages out to around 200 anyway, sometimes a bit lower).
You may also have bad luck, but really, it's all about the mf. You need to get it up another 100 points before you can complain. Sure, some people with no MF get some good stuff, but if you want to get reliable equip, you gotta get the values higher.
On June 05 2012 23:48 ihasaKAROT wrote: Theres the chest in underbridge, siegebreakerruns and caveruns basicly. Take ur pick!
Why not do all of them together and not have to pick, that's what I do, sometimes skipping the caverns because they're annoying.
How often does the cave actually spawn and does is always spawn in the same location? Also if you're gonna go through it you might as well kill siegebreaker since you're gonna pick up a couple of NV stacks in there unless you're talking about running through the whole thing.
On June 05 2012 23:48 ihasaKAROT wrote: Theres the chest in underbridge, siegebreakerruns and caveruns basicly. Take ur pick!
Caveruns? Which cave are you talking about? Also there are azmadon runs if you're strong enough.
Caverns of frost in the fields of strife.
On June 05 2012 23:48 ihasaKAROT wrote: Theres the chest in underbridge, siegebreakerruns and caveruns basicly. Take ur pick!
Why not do all of them together and not have to pick, that's what I do, sometimes skipping the caverns because they're annoying.
How often does the cave actually spawn and does is always spawn in the same location? Also if you're gonna go through it you might as well kill siegebreaker since you're gonna pick up a couple of NV stacks in there unless you're talking about running through the whole thing.
Yes it's caverns of frost I sometimes skip because IMO it's kind of annoying. I always do siegebreaker if I have at least 2 NV stacks. AFAIK it's the only guranteed resplendent chest in act3 though... it's at the end of the 2nd level. It shares a spawn with one other dungeon but I seem to get the caverns of frost almost all the time.
On June 05 2012 23:48 ihasaKAROT wrote: Theres the chest in underbridge, siegebreakerruns and caveruns basicly. Take ur pick!
Caveruns? Which cave are you talking about? Also there are azmadon runs if you're strong enough.
Caverns of frost in the fields of strife.
On June 05 2012 23:48 ihasaKAROT wrote: Theres the chest in underbridge, siegebreakerruns and caveruns basicly. Take ur pick!
Why not do all of them together and not have to pick, that's what I do, sometimes skipping the caverns because they're annoying.
How often does the cave actually spawn and does is always spawn in the same location? Also if you're gonna go through it you might as well kill siegebreaker since you're gonna pick up a couple of NV stacks in there unless you're talking about running through the whole thing.
Yes it's caverns of frost I sometimes skip because IMO it's kind of annoying. I always do siegebreaker if I have at least 2 NV stacks. AFAIK it's the only guranteed resplendent chest in act3 though... it's at the end of the 2nd level. It shares a spawn with one other dungeon but I seem to get the caverns of frost almost all the time.
I find it kinda easy but i only ran it once in inferno. The only ranged enemies are quillbeasts i think. Thanks for the info.
On June 04 2012 04:19 wei2coolman wrote: Anyone figured out the best goldfarming area? I don't really need gear, I just need gold. I'm running 150% gold find, anyone know best area to farm out for gold?
I know running through the end of act 3 nightmare is a pretty good rate. I start at the quest The Heart of Sin, choosing part 2 i think called second heart. Take waypoint to Arreat Crater level 2 and push on toward spider queen, using all aoe/speed skills and getting getting NV stacked to 5. Kill spider queen then on to azmodan and restart.
I've tried starting at tower of the cursed level 1 instead but with that route you usually only get 3-4 stacks of NV for spider queen so I'm not sure if it's better or not.
With 110% gold find and 12 yards to pick up (this saves a LOT of time to have pick up radius, it makes this go by sooo faster) I make an average of 40-50k gold per 10 mins, plus some rares may be sellable. I pick up blues and insta sell them but some people just skip over blues so they don't have to port back twice, just preference.
On June 06 2012 02:13 HyunA wrote: so before act 2 inferno, the warden-butcher run is the best for farming?
Probably, yes.
How effective is it to just go for underbridge/siegebreaker runs without going for five NV stacks?
I have 167% MF that I put on before looting big chests/killing off the boss, but I barely feel it makes any difference.
Not worth farming big bosses without NV, imo. 5stack NV guarantees at least 2 rares. anytime I kill bosses without 5stack NV I get garbage, even with 216 MF. =/
On June 06 2012 02:13 HyunA wrote: so before act 2 inferno, the warden-butcher run is the best for farming?
Probably, yes.
How effective is it to just go for underbridge/siegebreaker runs without going for five NV stacks?
I have 167% MF that I put on before looting big chests/killing off the boss, but I barely feel it makes any difference.
Yeah I agree with the above poster as it currently does not feel worth it. I've played around doing siegebreaker with just 1-2 stacks (the stacks you would just normally get from clearing area in front of siegebreaker from the waypoint + the elite in the underbridge) but it just did not seem worth the time as I don't think I've ever seen a rare drop from just 1 or 2 stacks. There is a also lot of talk about MF not working with end bosses and that does seem to jive with my personal experiences.
IMO if you're solo you should do 5 stack siegebreaker, and if you have a group of 4 to run concurrent underbridge chest farming that seems better than 5 stack siegebreaker in the long run.
On that note what do people think of spider queen + azmodan runs? Worth it or just stick with siegebreaker?
Guess I'll go on doing this then... But this leads to exactly what I hate about item farming in D3, it's not only luck dependant in the way that you need to find good items but you won't even get to that point if the champions you need to kill in order to stack the buff have some fucked up ability combinations.
On lucky runs this takes about 30 minutes (gussed, since I never actually looked at the time), but if you're unlucky it takes upwards of 1 hour or you just end up frustrated and start all over hoping for a better run...
If i do the royal cripts vases, i get more gold, but if i do warden-butcher run i get way more items. I still can't figure it out which of them is the most profitable.
On that note what do people think of spider queen + azmodan runs? Worth it or just stick with siegebreaker?
I think if you're capable of clearing SQ/Azmo quickly (needs a little bit better gear/skill than siegebreaker, no tyrael, mob types are a little worse in arreat crater, as well as SQ/azmo being harder than SB), it's definitely better, as you're guaranteed more rares from two bosses with NV. Personally I find siegebreaker really easy and efficient, so I stick with them, but sometimes for a change of scenery I'll do some azmo runs.
On that note what do people think of spider queen + azmodan runs? Worth it or just stick with siegebreaker?
I think if you're capable of clearing SQ/Azmo quickly (needs a little bit better gear/skill than siegebreaker, no tyrael, mob types are a little worse in arreat crater, as well as SQ/azmo being harder than SB), it's definitely better, as you're guaranteed more rares from two bosses with NV. Personally I find siegebreaker really easy and efficient, so I stick with them, but sometimes for a change of scenery I'll do some azmo runs.
Well yes 2 bosses = more guaranteed rares but siegebreaker runs are invariably linked to the chance of getting 2 resplendent chests (underbridge and caverns of frost/keep depending on your class and which dungeon mobs are better for you). Like when I run siegebreaker I start/reload game until underbridge respawns so I have a chance for the chest since there's a guaranteed elite pack in there so that's my first stack. Then I get the rest of my stacks clearing caverns of frost which AFAIK has a guaranteed chest on the 2nd floor. So it's like 2 bosses or 1 boss + chance @ 2 chests (since I *think* caverns of frost doesn't always spawn but I've never seen it not spawn... maybe I'm just lucky?). Time is also a factor in terms of which you can do faster. No idea how long a SQ/Azmodan run would take. Siegebreaker runs usually are 30-40 mins for me.
Also are SQ/Azmodan loot any better? What about A4 stuff?
On that note what do people think of spider queen + azmodan runs? Worth it or just stick with siegebreaker?
I think if you're capable of clearing SQ/Azmo quickly (needs a little bit better gear/skill than siegebreaker, no tyrael, mob types are a little worse in arreat crater, as well as SQ/azmo being harder than SB), it's definitely better, as you're guaranteed more rares from two bosses with NV. Personally I find siegebreaker really easy and efficient, so I stick with them, but sometimes for a change of scenery I'll do some azmo runs.
Well yes 2 bosses = more guaranteed rares but siegebreaker runs are invariably linked to the chance of getting 2 resplendent chests (underbridge and caverns of frost/keep depending on your class and which dungeon mobs are better for you). Like when I run siegebreaker I start/reload game until underbridge respawns so I have a chance for the chest since there's a guaranteed elite pack in there so that's my first stack. Then I get the rest of my stacks clearing caverns of frost which AFAIK has a guaranteed chest on the 2nd floor. So it's like 2 bosses or 1 boss + chance @ 2 chests (since I *think* caverns of frost doesn't always spawn but I've never seen it not spawn... maybe I'm just lucky?). Time is also a factor in terms of which you can do faster. No idea how long a SQ/Azmodan run would take. Siegebreaker runs usually are 30-40 mins for me.
Also are SQ/Azmodan loot any better? What about A4 stuff?
Caverns of frost is not a garanteed spawn - sometimes a cave called cave of icefell or something like that spawns instead. I know this from countless runs getting the pieces for the whimsyshire staff lol.
On that note what do people think of spider queen + azmodan runs? Worth it or just stick with siegebreaker?
I think if you're capable of clearing SQ/Azmo quickly (needs a little bit better gear/skill than siegebreaker, no tyrael, mob types are a little worse in arreat crater, as well as SQ/azmo being harder than SB), it's definitely better, as you're guaranteed more rares from two bosses with NV. Personally I find siegebreaker really easy and efficient, so I stick with them, but sometimes for a change of scenery I'll do some azmo runs.
Well yes 2 bosses = more guaranteed rares but siegebreaker runs are invariably linked to the chance of getting 2 resplendent chests (underbridge and caverns of frost/keep depending on your class and which dungeon mobs are better for you). Like when I run siegebreaker I start/reload game until underbridge respawns so I have a chance for the chest since there's a guaranteed elite pack in there so that's my first stack. Then I get the rest of my stacks clearing caverns of frost which AFAIK has a guaranteed chest on the 2nd floor. So it's like 2 bosses or 1 boss + chance @ 2 chests (since I *think* caverns of frost doesn't always spawn but I've never seen it not spawn... maybe I'm just lucky?). Time is also a factor in terms of which you can do faster. No idea how long a SQ/Azmodan run would take. Siegebreaker runs usually are 30-40 mins for me.
Also are SQ/Azmodan loot any better? What about A4 stuff?
The chests definitely make up for it, but SQ/azmo is quicker for 2 bosses, in my experience. (60k dps, 35k hp, 600res), but I will sometimes get hung up in arreat crater on obnoxious phasebeast elites. The Caverns of frost/ice fall caves are 100% spawn(one or the other), but they also occasionally have obnoxious burrowing leaper guy elites. The underbridge is about 50% spawn in my experience, with about 25%ish? chance of chest spawn. Their loot seems about equivalent in my experience. Haven't tried doing any NV stack farming in Act 4 yet, the mobs seem a little too annoying for my tastes, heh.
I honestly think Siege/SQ/azmo are fairly similar, but I think you can eek out a little more bang for your buck with SQ/azmo if you're rolling through it.
Like I said before though, I actually prefer siege runs, just because SQ/azmo runs irritate me more, 'cause I find the mob types a little more annoying, lol.
If you're fine doing completely mindless shit for hours on end, well I guess that's a given since you're playing d3 to begin with, just do Act 1 Inferno royal crypts, smash all the vases and reset, this is what a lot of bots and scripts do for 600-700k an hour even works on HC because there is no chance of dying with it.
On June 06 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote: If you're fine doing completely mindless shit for hours on end, well I guess that's a given since you're playing d3 to begin with, just do Act 1 Inferno royal crypts, smash all the vases and reset, this is what a lot of bots and scripts do for 600-700k an hour even works on HC because there is no chance of dying with it.
This is the best place to farm at the moment with Gold Find and Magic Find with 5 NV. Even after the nerf on the jars it still easy and safe for bots or players who want to play it this way. Unknown to the botters, the entire AH will be devoid of players and controlled purely by 2 factors:
Bots that are buying out cheap crap players are putting up immediately so players can sell cheap to bots. Bots then put the items back up for about 75% of the normal going rate to make a profit off these specific items. These are in turn bought by another bot which puts it up at 95%. These items are not bought.
This then pushes the gold farming bots to farm more gold. These bots bring in a infinite supply of gold into the AH to buy more items at cheap rates or medium rates to resell. They also off set the cost. The bots continue to bring in gold and trade gold on the AH automatically until basically prices become inflated due to lack of players actually farming/needing/buying items because they cannot compete against a bot that farms gold 20 hours a day
On June 06 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote: If you're fine doing completely mindless shit for hours on end, well I guess that's a given since you're playing d3 to begin with, just do Act 1 Inferno royal crypts, smash all the vases and reset, this is what a lot of bots and scripts do for 600-700k an hour even works on HC because there is no chance of dying with it.
Ferret + gold find gear + vault with the ability that autoshoot arrows = fastest gold of my life.
Haven't done this long enough yet to make it a definite statement, but after about 3 hours of goblin farming in act 2 path, the loot just doesn't compare with 5nv siege runs (Ran about 8 hours on Saturday). Plus the siege runs are more enjoyable Made about 5 million from that day of just siege, which isn't too shabby.
Still I wish I had more time to farm like those streamers so that I can also get 200k dps...
On June 06 2012 03:37 HyunA wrote: If i do the royal cripts vases, i get more gold, but if i do warden-butcher run i get way more items. I still can't figure it out which of them is the most profitable.
I've been farming the act 2 goblin fro about 3 days usually with 2-3 people. Porbably got ~20m worth of gear in my stach and we all got very nice upgrades to our gear. After 3 days it was enough to start farming act 3&4 with your new gear. Get your mf as high as you can so you barely kill the golbin before he escapes. If you are killing the goblin before he opens his portal you need more mf
On June 06 2012 07:44 Butcherski wrote: I've been farming the act 2 goblin fro about 3 days usually with 2-3 people. Porbably got ~20m worth of gear in my stach and we all got very nice upgrades to our gear. After 3 days it was enough to start farming act 3&4 with your new gear. Get your mf as high as you can so you barely kill the golbin before he escapes. If you are killing the goblin before he opens his portal you need more mf
Or just swap your normal gear to MF right before it dies.
I've been doing the typical siegebreaker locations then going to azmodan instead of the beast. It's working out so far, and I can kill azmodan faster than the beast. Not sure if the loot is any better though..
On June 06 2012 07:44 Butcherski wrote: I've been farming the act 2 goblin fro about 3 days usually with 2-3 people. Porbably got ~20m worth of gear in my stach and we all got very nice upgrades to our gear. After 3 days it was enough to start farming act 3&4 with your new gear. Get your mf as high as you can so you barely kill the golbin before he escapes. If you are killing the goblin before he opens his portal you need more mf
Or just swap your normal gear to MF right before it dies.
are those macro thingies allowed under tos? and what is one that is safe to use?
for switching to MF, i just put all of my gear on the bottom row of my inventory and click through, making sure to hold alt for the 2nd ring. you should be able to click fast enough to do it in the space of 1 SS.
Do 1.2k 1h, 1.6k 2h weapons realy drop in a3/siegebreaker ? me and two friends are farming for one week now and we never saw one even close to the things on ah drop. i have seen deadly and of death affixes drop but never together. is the ilvl in a4 higher ?
On June 06 2012 08:43 graan wrote: Do 1.2k 1h, 1.6k 2h weapons realy drop in a3/siegebreaker ? me and two friends are farming for one week now and we never saw one even close to the things on ah drop. i have seen deadly and of death affixes drop but never together. is the ilvl in a4 higher ?
I've never seen a 1.2k one hander (anywhere) without some %dmg bonus in them. So the item is actually only a 800 (still damn rare) with 40% DMg bonus or some shit.
Either way, Ive been doing pony runs and clearing, an weapons definitely have a higher dps than those in act 3 (I was farming act 3 for ages)
On June 06 2012 08:43 graan wrote: Do 1.2k 1h, 1.6k 2h weapons realy drop in a3/siegebreaker ? me and two friends are farming for one week now and we never saw one even close to the things on ah drop. i have seen deadly and of death affixes drop but never together. is the ilvl in a4 higher ?
I've never seen a 1.2k one hander (anywhere) without some %dmg bonus in them. So the item is actually only a 800 (still damn rare) with 40% DMg bonus or some shit.
Either way, Ive been doing pony runs and clearing, an weapons definitely have a higher dps than those in act 3 (I was farming act 3 for ages)
What does that % dmg bonus have to do with anything? o_o
On June 06 2012 08:43 graan wrote: Do 1.2k 1h, 1.6k 2h weapons realy drop in a3/siegebreaker ? me and two friends are farming for one week now and we never saw one even close to the things on ah drop. i have seen deadly and of death affixes drop but never together. is the ilvl in a4 higher ?
I've never seen a 1.2k one hander (anywhere) without some %dmg bonus in them. So the item is actually only a 800 (still damn rare) with 40% DMg bonus or some shit.
Either way, Ive been doing pony runs and clearing, an weapons definitely have a higher dps than those in act 3 (I was farming act 3 for ages)
What does that % dmg bonus have to do with anything? o_o
a base 800 damage weapon turns into a 1.2k damage weapon it if it has a 50% damage bonus.
On June 06 2012 08:43 graan wrote: Do 1.2k 1h, 1.6k 2h weapons realy drop in a3/siegebreaker ? me and two friends are farming for one week now and we never saw one even close to the things on ah drop. i have seen deadly and of death affixes drop but never together. is the ilvl in a4 higher ?
I've never seen a 1.2k one hander (anywhere) without some %dmg bonus in them. So the item is actually only a 800 (still damn rare) with 40% DMg bonus or some shit.
Either way, Ive been doing pony runs and clearing, an weapons definitely have a higher dps than those in act 3 (I was farming act 3 for ages)
What does that % dmg bonus have to do with anything? o_o
a base 800 damage weapon turns into a 1.2k damage weapon it if it has a 50% damage bonus.
I know but what does that have to do with anything?
On June 06 2012 08:43 graan wrote: Do 1.2k 1h, 1.6k 2h weapons realy drop in a3/siegebreaker ? me and two friends are farming for one week now and we never saw one even close to the things on ah drop. i have seen deadly and of death affixes drop but never together. is the ilvl in a4 higher ?
I've never seen a 1.2k one hander (anywhere) without some %dmg bonus in them. So the item is actually only a 800 (still damn rare) with 40% DMg bonus or some shit.
Either way, Ive been doing pony runs and clearing, an weapons definitely have a higher dps than those in act 3 (I was farming act 3 for ages)
What does that % dmg bonus have to do with anything? o_o
a base 800 damage weapon turns into a 1.2k damage weapon it if it has a 50% damage bonus.
I know but what does that have to do with anything?
Also I'm 99% its only applied to the base dmg
he was saying that 1.2K one-handers dont exist except potentially with a damage modifier. i dont think it means anything beyond that.
On June 06 2012 08:43 graan wrote: Do 1.2k 1h, 1.6k 2h weapons realy drop in a3/siegebreaker ? me and two friends are farming for one week now and we never saw one even close to the things on ah drop. i have seen deadly and of death affixes drop but never together. is the ilvl in a4 higher ?
I've never seen a 1.2k one hander (anywhere) without some %dmg bonus in them. So the item is actually only a 800 (still damn rare) with 40% DMg bonus or some shit.
Either way, Ive been doing pony runs and clearing, an weapons definitely have a higher dps than those in act 3 (I was farming act 3 for ages)
What does that % dmg bonus have to do with anything? o_o
a base 800 damage weapon turns into a 1.2k damage weapon it if it has a 50% damage bonus.
I know but what does that have to do with anything?
Also I'm 99% its only applied to the base dmg
he was saying that 1.2K one-handers dont exist except potentially with a damage modifier. i dont think it means anything beyond that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't elemental dmg a part of base dmg now?
On June 06 2012 08:43 graan wrote: Do 1.2k 1h, 1.6k 2h weapons realy drop in a3/siegebreaker ? me and two friends are farming for one week now and we never saw one even close to the things on ah drop. i have seen deadly and of death affixes drop but never together. is the ilvl in a4 higher ?
I've never seen a 1.2k one hander (anywhere) without some %dmg bonus in them. So the item is actually only a 800 (still damn rare) with 40% DMg bonus or some shit.
Either way, Ive been doing pony runs and clearing, an weapons definitely have a higher dps than those in act 3 (I was farming act 3 for ages)
On June 06 2012 06:51 spacemonkey4eve wrote: Haven't done this long enough yet to make it a definite statement, but after about 3 hours of goblin farming in act 2 path, the loot just doesn't compare with 5nv siege runs (Ran about 8 hours on Saturday). Plus the siege runs are more enjoyable Made about 5 million from that day of just siege, which isn't too shabby.
Still I wish I had more time to farm like those streamers so that I can also get 200k dps...
wish i wasnt a barb and wasnt forced into goblin/chest runs cause of that. kulle/belial sucks and act3 owns me (900 allres,50k hp,7/16 ranged/melee reduction,9k armor)
On June 06 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote: If you're fine doing completely mindless shit for hours on end, well I guess that's a given since you're playing d3 to begin with, just do Act 1 Inferno royal crypts, smash all the vases and reset, this is what a lot of bots and scripts do for 600-700k an hour even works on HC because there is no chance of dying with it.
Can someone explain exactly how this works? Are you supposed to get 5NV stack before shattering all the tiles, or do you just port in with GF gear, smash, and rinse repeat?
I tried it without getting the NV stacks, 130ish GF gear, and I could only manage around 300k an hour.
On June 06 2012 09:52 run.at.me wrote: I dont remember asking a yes no question
Sorry, misquoted you instead of the guy who asked the question. Thanks for being sarcastic though, when all I was doing was trying to provide some additional input
On June 06 2012 09:53 ZerG~LegenD wrote: What are the best locations in act 1 for stacking Nephalem's Valor before I enter Whimsyshire?
Festering Woods -> Crypt of the Ancients and Warrior's Rest are really close to the waypoint and each has a unique mob in it. It's where you get the beacons for the Drowned Temple Quest. You can also activate the Eternal War/Last Stand of the Ancients close to the entrance of this area for another one.
Old Ruins -> Dark Cellar (where the goblin spawns) often has a unique mob as well.
I think there's almost always an elite mob outside of Leoric's Manor front door as well.
I usually do these first and then find one randomly somewhere else :p
On June 06 2012 11:50 Oceanic wrote: Is there any way to start on the rakkis bridge waypoint for siegebreaker or do I have to start from korsikk every time?
you can start on rakkis. just pick kill siegebreaker quest.
On June 06 2012 09:53 ZerG~LegenD wrote: What are the best locations in act 1 for stacking Nephalem's Valor before I enter Whimsyshire?
Festering Woods -> Crypt of the Ancients and Warrior's Rest are really close to the waypoint and each has a unique mob in it. It's where you get the beacons for the Drowned Temple Quest. You can also activate the Eternal War/Last Stand of the Ancients close to the entrance of this area for another one.
Old Ruins -> Dark Cellar (where the goblin spawns) often has a unique mob as well.
I think there's almost always an elite mob outside of Leoric's Manor front door as well.
I usually do these first and then find one randomly somewhere else :p
Festering woods is the neatest place, but Sarkoth in the dark cellar doesn't provide a stack. Only champions/elites (those with blue and yellow names, purple doesn't count) give stacks. If need be, start the quest of "doom at wortham" then go over there to get a guaranteed elite spawn prior to meeting maghda.
On June 06 2012 09:53 ZerG~LegenD wrote: What are the best locations in act 1 for stacking Nephalem's Valor before I enter Whimsyshire?
Festering Woods -> Crypt of the Ancients and Warrior's Rest are really close to the waypoint and each has a unique mob in it. It's where you get the beacons for the Drowned Temple Quest. You can also activate the Eternal War/Last Stand of the Ancients close to the entrance of this area for another one.
Old Ruins -> Dark Cellar (where the goblin spawns) often has a unique mob as well.
I think there's almost always an elite mob outside of Leoric's Manor front door as well.
I usually do these first and then find one randomly somewhere else :p
Festering woods is the neatest place, but Sarkoth in the dark cellar doesn't provide a stack. Only champions/elites (those with blue and yellow names, purple doesn't count) give stacks. If need be, start the quest of "doom at wortham" then go over there to get a guaranteed elite spawn prior to meeting maghda.
I'm positive I got a yellow name in the cellar, reflect damage illusionist all around gay
On June 06 2012 09:53 ZerG~LegenD wrote: What are the best locations in act 1 for stacking Nephalem's Valor before I enter Whimsyshire?
Festering Woods -> Crypt of the Ancients and Warrior's Rest are really close to the waypoint and each has a unique mob in it. It's where you get the beacons for the Drowned Temple Quest. You can also activate the Eternal War/Last Stand of the Ancients close to the entrance of this area for another one.
Old Ruins -> Dark Cellar (where the goblin spawns) often has a unique mob as well.
I think there's almost always an elite mob outside of Leoric's Manor front door as well.
I usually do these first and then find one randomly somewhere else :p
Festering woods is the neatest place, but Sarkoth in the dark cellar doesn't provide a stack. Only champions/elites (those with blue and yellow names, purple doesn't count) give stacks. If need be, start the quest of "doom at wortham" then go over there to get a guaranteed elite spawn prior to meeting maghda.
I'm positive I got a yellow name in the cellar, reflect damage illusionist all around gay
Must be a different cellar we're talking about I thought you meant the treasure mob in the cellar that was either open or closed.
On June 06 2012 09:53 ZerG~LegenD wrote: What are the best locations in act 1 for stacking Nephalem's Valor before I enter Whimsyshire?
Festering Woods -> Crypt of the Ancients and Warrior's Rest are really close to the waypoint and each has a unique mob in it. It's where you get the beacons for the Drowned Temple Quest. You can also activate the Eternal War/Last Stand of the Ancients close to the entrance of this area for another one.
Old Ruins -> Dark Cellar (where the goblin spawns) often has a unique mob as well.
I think there's almost always an elite mob outside of Leoric's Manor front door as well.
I usually do these first and then find one randomly somewhere else :p
Festering woods is the neatest place, but Sarkoth in the dark cellar doesn't provide a stack. Only champions/elites (those with blue and yellow names, purple doesn't count) give stacks. If need be, start the quest of "doom at wortham" then go over there to get a guaranteed elite spawn prior to meeting maghda.
I'm positive I got a yellow name in the cellar, reflect damage illusionist all around gay
Must be a different cellar we're talking about I thought you meant the treasure mob in the cellar that was either open or closed.
I think it might've actually been Dank Cellar, not Dark Cellar. woops :p
i have a question about farming and magic find gear, do most ppl who farm have a set of magic find gear they switch into before they kill a boss or elite? does that truly work?
On June 06 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote: If you're fine doing completely mindless shit for hours on end, well I guess that's a given since you're playing d3 to begin with, just do Act 1 Inferno royal crypts, smash all the vases and reset, this is what a lot of bots and scripts do for 600-700k an hour even works on HC because there is no chance of dying with it.
Can someone explain exactly how this works? Are you supposed to get 5NV stack before shattering all the tiles, or do you just port in with GF gear, smash, and rinse repeat?
I tried it without getting the NV stacks, 130ish GF gear, and I could only manage around 300k an hour.
Considering you only have 130ish GF gear and you made around 300k/hour, doubling your GF gear might bring it to the ballpark of 600-700k
And I believe you're suppose to get the NV stacks given they increase your GF%.
On June 06 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote: If you're fine doing completely mindless shit for hours on end, well I guess that's a given since you're playing d3 to begin with, just do Act 1 Inferno royal crypts, smash all the vases and reset, this is what a lot of bots and scripts do for 600-700k an hour even works on HC because there is no chance of dying with it.
Can someone explain exactly how this works? Are you supposed to get 5NV stack before shattering all the tiles, or do you just port in with GF gear, smash, and rinse repeat?
I tried it without getting the NV stacks, 130ish GF gear, and I could only manage around 300k an hour.
Considering you only have 130ish GF gear and you made around 300k/hour, doubling your GF gear might bring it to the ballpark of 600-700k
And I believe you're suppose to get the NV stacks given they increase your GF%.
err if you get NV stacks, then they go away when you leave/resume the game, which I'm assuming you will be doing a lot. and I can't see how anyone would want to just smash vases for gold for ten minutes, let alone an hour or more. but that probably explains why I'm undergeared.
On June 06 2012 11:50 Oceanic wrote: Is there any way to start on the rakkis bridge waypoint for siegebreaker or do I have to start from korsikk every time?
you can start on rakkis. just pick kill siegebreaker quest.
I couldnt start on rakkis until after I had gotten the checkpoint/killed siegebreaker (not sure which it was), despite starting on the kill siegebreaker quest.
On June 06 2012 09:52 run.at.me wrote: I dont remember asking a yes no question
Sorry, misquoted you instead of the guy who asked the question. Thanks for being sarcastic though, when all I was doing was trying to provide some additional input
And thats what i wanted to hear, thanks. Guess im up for a few hundred more siegebreaker runs
On June 06 2012 14:47 Zedders wrote: it works but usually not doable like against the Butcher were ur trying to dodge fire
its pretty easy in a group. I did it with 2 DH's and playing my second hero (wiz) with medoicrish gear. But we had pretty high dps so enrage was np. so we could take our time (if we needed to). Not hard spam clicking inventory when hes low.
On June 06 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote: If you're fine doing completely mindless shit for hours on end, well I guess that's a given since you're playing d3 to begin with, just do Act 1 Inferno royal crypts, smash all the vases and reset, this is what a lot of bots and scripts do for 600-700k an hour even works on HC because there is no chance of dying with it.
Can someone explain exactly how this works? Are you supposed to get 5NV stack before shattering all the tiles, or do you just port in with GF gear, smash, and rinse repeat?
I tried it without getting the NV stacks, 130ish GF gear, and I could only manage around 300k an hour.
Considering you only have 130ish GF gear and you made around 300k/hour, doubling your GF gear might bring it to the ballpark of 600-700k
And I believe you're suppose to get the NV stacks given they increase your GF%.
I do it with 215% GF and I don't make 300k/hr... what am I doing wrong exactly? DH using multishot to pop vases and vault+tumble/tactical if you are wondering
On June 06 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote: If you're fine doing completely mindless shit for hours on end, well I guess that's a given since you're playing d3 to begin with, just do Act 1 Inferno royal crypts, smash all the vases and reset, this is what a lot of bots and scripts do for 600-700k an hour even works on HC because there is no chance of dying with it.
Can someone explain exactly how this works? Are you supposed to get 5NV stack before shattering all the tiles, or do you just port in with GF gear, smash, and rinse repeat?
I tried it without getting the NV stacks, 130ish GF gear, and I could only manage around 300k an hour.
Considering you only have 130ish GF gear and you made around 300k/hour, doubling your GF gear might bring it to the ballpark of 600-700k
And I believe you're suppose to get the NV stacks given they increase your GF%.
I do it with 215% GF and I don't make 300k/hr... what am I doing wrong exactly? DH using multishot to pop vases and vault+tumble/tactical if you are wondering
How long does a single run take you? I tried running crypts for a while last night with my wizard, bought some cheap gold find gear for every slot (except for my move speed boots), for a total of 180ish GF and 6 pickup radius. I hit force armor as soon as I enter the game to function as a timer (120 seconds). Running around with disintegrate/teleport, every run is 8-10k gold, say 9k on average, and I always leave with about 30 seconds left on FA. Since I'm not a bot, my efficiency varies from game to game, but that's 300-400k/hr.
On June 06 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote: If you're fine doing completely mindless shit for hours on end, well I guess that's a given since you're playing d3 to begin with, just do Act 1 Inferno royal crypts, smash all the vases and reset, this is what a lot of bots and scripts do for 600-700k an hour even works on HC because there is no chance of dying with it.
Can someone explain exactly how this works? Are you supposed to get 5NV stack before shattering all the tiles, or do you just port in with GF gear, smash, and rinse repeat?
I tried it without getting the NV stacks, 130ish GF gear, and I could only manage around 300k an hour.
Considering you only have 130ish GF gear and you made around 300k/hour, doubling your GF gear might bring it to the ballpark of 600-700k
And I believe you're suppose to get the NV stacks given they increase your GF%.
700k+ is with a DH using max movement speed (25% is capped) + tactical advantage (60% movement speed for 2sec) and gold radius pick up with mf gear, you can literally pick up gold from like half screen so you just run straight in a line don't have to worry about stopping to pick up gold. No need for NV stacks or anything, just open bot/script then SET IT and FORGET IT!
On June 06 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote: If you're fine doing completely mindless shit for hours on end, well I guess that's a given since you're playing d3 to begin with, just do Act 1 Inferno royal crypts, smash all the vases and reset, this is what a lot of bots and scripts do for 600-700k an hour even works on HC because there is no chance of dying with it.
Can someone explain exactly how this works? Are you supposed to get 5NV stack before shattering all the tiles, or do you just port in with GF gear, smash, and rinse repeat?
I tried it without getting the NV stacks, 130ish GF gear, and I could only manage around 300k an hour.
Considering you only have 130ish GF gear and you made around 300k/hour, doubling your GF gear might bring it to the ballpark of 600-700k
And I believe you're suppose to get the NV stacks given they increase your GF%.
700k+ is with a DH using max movement speed (25% is capped) + tactical advantage (60% movement speed for 2sec) and gold radius pick up with mf gear, you can literally pick up gold from like half screen so you just run straight in a line don't have to worry about stopping to pick up gold. No need for NV stacks or anything, just open bot/script then SET IT and FORGET IT!
is it really safe to use bots/scripts? i searched on google and i couldn't find any legit ones to download. also, i've seen on different forums that people have been banned/disabled acc for botting.
On June 07 2012 00:21 KroN wrote: act2 goblin with 206MF or act3 5 stack siegebreaker/bridge runs with ~20 MF, cant decide whats best over a longer time ~.~
i get more good weapons in A3, but i dont know about armor
Does the goblin even work anymore? I used to farm maghda but after hearing about it i grinded my way up to that part and im not finding any goblin there, like ever.
On June 06 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote: If you're fine doing completely mindless shit for hours on end, well I guess that's a given since you're playing d3 to begin with, just do Act 1 Inferno royal crypts, smash all the vases and reset, this is what a lot of bots and scripts do for 600-700k an hour even works on HC because there is no chance of dying with it.
Can someone explain exactly how this works? Are you supposed to get 5NV stack before shattering all the tiles, or do you just port in with GF gear, smash, and rinse repeat?
I tried it without getting the NV stacks, 130ish GF gear, and I could only manage around 300k an hour.
Considering you only have 130ish GF gear and you made around 300k/hour, doubling your GF gear might bring it to the ballpark of 600-700k
And I believe you're suppose to get the NV stacks given they increase your GF%.
700k+ is with a DH using max movement speed (25% is capped) + tactical advantage (60% movement speed for 2sec) and gold radius pick up with mf gear, you can literally pick up gold from like half screen so you just run straight in a line don't have to worry about stopping to pick up gold. No need for NV stacks or anything, just open bot/script then SET IT and FORGET IT!
is it really safe to use bots/scripts? i searched on google and i couldn't find any legit ones to download. also, i've seen on different forums that people have been banned/disabled acc for botting.
Botting/scripting is never safe and is widely frowned upon by the community.
On June 06 2012 04:21 NotSorry wrote: If you're fine doing completely mindless shit for hours on end, well I guess that's a given since you're playing d3 to begin with, just do Act 1 Inferno royal crypts, smash all the vases and reset, this is what a lot of bots and scripts do for 600-700k an hour even works on HC because there is no chance of dying with it.
Can someone explain exactly how this works? Are you supposed to get 5NV stack before shattering all the tiles, or do you just port in with GF gear, smash, and rinse repeat?
I tried it without getting the NV stacks, 130ish GF gear, and I could only manage around 300k an hour.
Considering you only have 130ish GF gear and you made around 300k/hour, doubling your GF gear might bring it to the ballpark of 600-700k
And I believe you're suppose to get the NV stacks given they increase your GF%.
700k+ is with a DH using max movement speed (25% is capped) + tactical advantage (60% movement speed for 2sec) and gold radius pick up with mf gear, you can literally pick up gold from like half screen so you just run straight in a line don't have to worry about stopping to pick up gold. No need for NV stacks or anything, just open bot/script then SET IT and FORGET IT!
is it really safe to use bots/scripts? i searched on google and i couldn't find any legit ones to download. also, i've seen on different forums that people have been banned/disabled acc for botting.
Please keep theses discussion out of TL. Half of NotSorry D3 post are about botting. He was just banned for advertising gold sell.
I don't mind hearing about how it affects the economy and whatnot but sharing links and promoting botting/hacks should not have it's place on TL boards.
On June 07 2012 02:14 HyunA wrote: oh, okay. i can't aford any d3 game in the next months anyways, so i won't take the chance of being banned :D i'll just keep up breaking vases :/
On June 07 2012 02:14 HyunA wrote: oh, okay. i can't aford any d3 game in the next months anyways, so i won't take the chance of being banned :D i'll just keep up breaking vases :/
Why break vases when you can open act 3 chest
Not unless you already have sick gear or abuse that tyreal afk crap.
On June 07 2012 02:14 HyunA wrote: oh, okay. i can't aford any d3 game in the next months anyways, so i won't take the chance of being banned :D i'll just keep up breaking vases :/
Why break vases when you can open act 3 chest
because i've hit the 'brickwall' in act two so i must grind gold for gear ^^.
On June 07 2012 02:14 HyunA wrote: oh, okay. i can't aford any d3 game in the next months anyways, so i won't take the chance of being banned :D i'll just keep up breaking vases :/
Why break vases when you can open act 3 chest
because i've hit the 'brickwall' in act two so i must grind gold for gear ^^.
I was in the same position a few days ago. Just use the skipping bug while it's still available or just ask someone to kill Belial for you for 50K like I did.
On June 07 2012 02:14 HyunA wrote: oh, okay. i can't aford any d3 game in the next months anyways, so i won't take the chance of being banned :D i'll just keep up breaking vases :/
Why break vases when you can open act 3 chest
because i've hit the 'brickwall' in act two so i must grind gold for gear ^^.
I was in the same position a few days ago. Just use the skipping bug while it's still available or just ask someone to kill Belial for you for 50K like I did.
what skipping bug? and then what can i farm? i get 2-shotted by trash mobs in act2+ -.-'
On June 07 2012 02:14 HyunA wrote: oh, okay. i can't aford any d3 game in the next months anyways, so i won't take the chance of being banned :D i'll just keep up breaking vases :/
Why break vases when you can open act 3 chest
because i've hit the 'brickwall' in act two so i must grind gold for gear ^^.
I was in the same position a few days ago. Just use the skipping bug while it's still available or just ask someone to kill Belial for you for 50K like I did.
what skipping bug? and then what can i farm? i get 2-shotted by trash mobs in act2+ -.-'
Make a game any difficulty act 3 quest 3-4-5 or 6 Start game Leave game Public game ---> join Leave Resume and your game will be at inferno. Go to waypoint Keep Depth lvl 1. There is a chest on your right 1/6 of the time.
Mobs in act 3 felt much easier for me than mobs in act 2 FYI. Except the tongue lasher guys and the lacuni things in the ice caves, everything else is less annoying. Wasps gave me such a fit back in the day!
On June 07 2012 02:14 HyunA wrote: oh, okay. i can't aford any d3 game in the next months anyways, so i won't take the chance of being banned :D i'll just keep up breaking vases :/
Why break vases when you can open act 3 chest
because i've hit the 'brickwall' in act two so i must grind gold for gear ^^.
I was in the same position a few days ago. Just use the skipping bug while it's still available or just ask someone to kill Belial for you for 50K like I did.
what skipping bug? and then what can i farm? i get 2-shotted by trash mobs in act2+ -.-'
Make a game any difficulty act 3 quest 3-4-5 or 6 Start game Leave game Public game ---> join Leave Resume and your game will be at inferno. Go to waypoint Keep Depth lvl 1. There is a chest on your right 1/6 of the time.
okay, thanks. also, i did that. i re-started 5 times and i still don't see any chest. if i'm trying to beat mobs, i get 3-4 shotted. where exactly 'to the right' shall i find that chest?
EDIT: i found it the 10th time, but it's not even a resplendant chest. i got 500 gold out of it and that's all. and i had mf/gf gear on me. i think i'll end up smashing vases until i'll get a freaking aneurism.
On June 07 2012 02:14 HyunA wrote: oh, okay. i can't aford any d3 game in the next months anyways, so i won't take the chance of being banned :D i'll just keep up breaking vases :/
Why break vases when you can open act 3 chest
because i've hit the 'brickwall' in act two so i must grind gold for gear ^^.
I was in the same position a few days ago. Just use the skipping bug while it's still available or just ask someone to kill Belial for you for 50K like I did.
what skipping bug? and then what can i farm? i get 2-shotted by trash mobs in act2+ -.-'
Make a game any difficulty act 3 quest 3-4-5 or 6 Start game Leave game Public game ---> join Leave Resume and your game will be at inferno. Go to waypoint Keep Depth lvl 1. There is a chest on your right 1/6 of the time.
okay, thanks. also, i did that. i re-started 5 times and i still don't see any chest. if i'm trying to beat mobs, i get 3-4 shotted. where exactly 'to the right' shall i find that chest?
EDIT: i found it the 10th time, but it's not even a resplendant chest. i got 500 gold out of it and that's all. and i had mf/gf gear on me. i think i'll end up smashing vases until i'll get a freaking aneurism.
On June 07 2012 02:14 HyunA wrote: oh, okay. i can't aford any d3 game in the next months anyways, so i won't take the chance of being banned :D i'll just keep up breaking vases :/
Why break vases when you can open act 3 chest
because i've hit the 'brickwall' in act two so i must grind gold for gear ^^.
I was in the same position a few days ago. Just use the skipping bug while it's still available or just ask someone to kill Belial for you for 50K like I did.
what skipping bug? and then what can i farm? i get 2-shotted by trash mobs in act2+ -.-'
Make a game any difficulty act 3 quest 3-4-5 or 6 Start game Leave game Public game ---> join Leave Resume and your game will be at inferno. Go to waypoint Keep Depth lvl 1. There is a chest on your right 1/6 of the time.
This wasnt as easy as you made it out to be...atleast not for me as a monk who is farming act 2, CONSTANTLY run into elites/champs right outside the door that are just impossible for me to deal with
On June 07 2012 03:04 TheMango wrote: any reason why people are doing seigebreakers runs instead of azmodan runs? Is it faster with the same loot table, or easier to get NV stacks?
I addressed this in another post. I've done both quite extensively, and the efficiency of the two is pretty similar. Siegebreaker has potentially 2 resplendant chests, as well as, in my opinion, easier NV stacking. I also find the mobs to be less annoying overall, with the only real annoying one being leapers in the Caverns of Frost/Icefall Caves. Azmo/Spider queen runs do indeed give you an extra boss kill, and a higher concentration of elites (less "searching" for them, in my experience), however, with Azmo/SQ you CAN actually die to the bosses, whereas SB it's virtually impossible to actually die to him. Additionally, I find the Arreat Crater area to be quite frustrating (Phasebeast elites are omega lame).
All that being said, I think the Azmo/SQ runs -may- be a tad bit more efficient in the long run, but I prefer SB because it's much easier for me to just auto-pilot those. Typically when I'm running them I'm watching a basketball game or something too, so they're pretty low-maintenance. Have to focus a little more for Azmo/SQ.
Does anyone know the difference of Whimsyshire and Act 4 loot in inferno? I'm having trouble deciding on where to farm on my monk. Both areas are easily clearable, but I don't really know which has higher odds of landing the 1200 dps 1h'ers, etc. So far, I've been alternating between those two areas, and act 3 underbridge farming.
On June 07 2012 03:37 Daozzt wrote: Does anyone know the difference of Whimsyshire and Act 4 loot in inferno? I'm having trouble deciding on where to farm on my monk. Both areas are easily clearable, but I don't really know which has higher odds of landing the 1200 dps 1h'ers, etc. So far, I've been alternating between those two areas, and act 3 underbridge farming.
Whimsyshire is easier and seems to drop more low ilvl gear, on the other hand it has more chests and is faster to clear.
I haven't experienced it myself but complete act 4 runs would seem more profitable due to longer 5x neph and diablo kill.
On June 07 2012 02:14 HyunA wrote: oh, okay. i can't aford any d3 game in the next months anyways, so i won't take the chance of being banned :D i'll just keep up breaking vases :/
Why break vases when you can open act 3 chest
because i've hit the 'brickwall' in act two so i must grind gold for gear ^^.
I was in the same position a few days ago. Just use the skipping bug while it's still available or just ask someone to kill Belial for you for 50K like I did.
what skipping bug? and then what can i farm? i get 2-shotted by trash mobs in act2+ -.-'
Make a game any difficulty act 3 quest 3-4-5 or 6 Start game Leave game Public game ---> join Leave Resume and your game will be at inferno. Go to waypoint Keep Depth lvl 1. There is a chest on your right 1/6 of the time.
okay, thanks. also, i did that. i re-started 5 times and i still don't see any chest. if i'm trying to beat mobs, i get 3-4 shotted. where exactly 'to the right' shall i find that chest?
EDIT: i found it the 10th time, but it's not even a resplendant chest. i got 500 gold out of it and that's all. and i had mf/gf gear on me. i think i'll end up smashing vases until i'll get a freaking aneurism.
that's impossible for me to do in inferno. i get 1 shotted by trash mobs, like i said. and in hell i get shitty items. also, the chest map spawns once in a lifetime. if i would have some friends to do it with, it would've been better, but i'm stuck with the vases. FML
I've actually enjoyed act 2 goblin farming. I think it is because it is one of the few parts of the game that actually benefits from working as a group. Hopefully the 1.03 changes make grouping in other parts of the game equally as rewarding.
On June 07 2012 07:07 dAPhREAk wrote: so where is the best place to get gold fast? i heard something about breaking vases in crypt. which crypt?
-Start Sword of the Stranger (Act I Quest 5) -Take the Royal Crypts WP Break all pots of ash up to the Skeleton King's summoning room Leave and Resume
I guess if you wanna pay more in repairs than you make you can do this...
Wait, what? Enlighten us, how do you imagine you die/get hit while breaking vases?
You sir, do not know what you are talking about and should research this method more thoroughly.
Blizzard stealth nerfed the royal crypts gold drop rate yesterday so the gold drop rate is way down, but you should still net a profit... just a much smaller one
On June 07 2012 17:44 EchelonTee wrote: Is the Act 3 chest farming still going well? I thought it got nerfed.
It got nerfed, however doing siegebreaker chest runs now before they nerf that as well.
where can you buy spots for inferno whimsishyre runs? and how much is it worth to buy? (EU, I have 218%mf)
what exactly is the siegebreaker chest run?
im doing siegebreaker runs now with my asskicking buddy tyrael. for the 5 nv stacks i search for champ mobs near way/checkpoints because, i wont lie, i die alot. one at underbridge, one at the bridge wp, 2 in keeps lvl 3. then another one somewhere...then take out siegebreaker, and repeat. with the higher repair costs this would probably not be proftiable anymore though
On June 07 2012 07:07 dAPhREAk wrote: so where is the best place to get gold fast? i heard something about breaking vases in crypt. which crypt?
-Start Sword of the Stranger (Act I Quest 5) -Take the Royal Crypts WP Break all pots of ash up to the Skeleton King's summoning room Leave and Resume
I guess if you wanna pay more in repairs than you make you can do this...
You better quit the game right now if you're dying to those little skeletons enough to repair more than you make breaking vases.
Gear with gold find AND good stats run for 1mil+ per piece. So you have to open those doors and get stuck and get killed a few times per run. Unless of course you play some imbalanced class like Barbarian.
Unless you can get 500k/hr I don't see how vase breaking is worth it.
On June 07 2012 07:07 dAPhREAk wrote: so where is the best place to get gold fast? i heard something about breaking vases in crypt. which crypt?
-Start Sword of the Stranger (Act I Quest 5) -Take the Royal Crypts WP Break all pots of ash up to the Skeleton King's summoning room Leave and Resume
I guess if you wanna pay more in repairs than you make you can do this...
You better quit the game right now if you're dying to those little skeletons enough to repair more than you make breaking vases.
Gear with gold find AND good stats run for 1mil+ per piece. So you have to open those doors and get stuck and get killed a few times per run. Unless of course you play some imbalanced class like Barbarian.
Unless you can get 500k/hr I don't see how vase breaking is worth it.
You actually don't have a clue how these runs work. You don't even come near the doors. Just break the vases including the ones in the first room, there are hardly any mobs. Then leave game and resume.
edit: with 200% GF + people can easily get 500k/hr, some go up to 800.
On June 07 2012 07:07 dAPhREAk wrote: so where is the best place to get gold fast? i heard something about breaking vases in crypt. which crypt?
-Start Sword of the Stranger (Act I Quest 5) -Take the Royal Crypts WP Break all pots of ash up to the Skeleton King's summoning room Leave and Resume
I guess if you wanna pay more in repairs than you make you can do this...
You better quit the game right now if you're dying to those little skeletons enough to repair more than you make breaking vases.
Gear with gold find AND good stats run for 1mil+ per piece. So you have to open those doors and get stuck and get killed a few times per run. Unless of course you play some imbalanced class like Barbarian.
Unless you can get 500k/hr I don't see how vase breaking is worth it.
You actually don't have a clue how these runs work. You don't even come near the doors. Just break the vases including the ones in the first room, there are hardly any mobs. Then leave game and resume.
edit: with 200% GF + people can easily get 500k/hr, some go up to 800.
Lol. I responded to the advice given, which said "Take the Royal Crypts WP Break all pots of ash up to the Skeleton King's summoning room Leave and Resume" and I said this was a bad idea because you waste time, and then you tell ME that I don't have any idea how these runs are supposed to work because you aren't supposed to go all the way to the SK room? That's... kinda... what... I.... just... said.
Also, no. There's no way you can get 500k/hr doing this.
There's nothing to die to... just like 5 little skeletons at a time that my scoudrel can solo. Literally it's impossible to die as long as your index finger can still click on things.
On June 07 2012 17:44 EchelonTee wrote: Is the Act 3 chest farming still going well? I thought it got nerfed.
It got nerfed, however doing siegebreaker chest runs now before they nerf that as well.
where can you buy spots for inferno whimsishyre runs? and how much is it worth to buy? (EU, I have 218%mf)
what exactly is the siegebreaker chest run?
im doing siegebreaker runs now with my asskicking buddy tyrael. for the 5 nv stacks i search for champ mobs near way/checkpoints because, i wont lie, i die alot. one at underbridge, one at the bridge wp, 2 in keeps lvl 3. then another one somewhere...then take out siegebreaker, and repeat. with the higher repair costs this would probably not be proftiable anymore though
You go right outside siegebreakers entrance, get the checkpoint, then go to underbridge (a chest spawns there 1/2 or 1/3 of the time)
I also do siege runs with 5 nv stacks, but only if the chest is there first so I can open it with 300% mf
On June 07 2012 07:07 dAPhREAk wrote: so where is the best place to get gold fast? i heard something about breaking vases in crypt. which crypt?
-Start Sword of the Stranger (Act I Quest 5) -Take the Royal Crypts WP Break all pots of ash up to the Skeleton King's summoning room Leave and Resume
I guess if you wanna pay more in repairs than you make you can do this...
You better quit the game right now if you're dying to those little skeletons enough to repair more than you make breaking vases.
Gear with gold find AND good stats run for 1mil+ per piece. So you have to open those doors and get stuck and get killed a few times per run. Unless of course you play some imbalanced class like Barbarian.
Unless you can get 500k/hr I don't see how vase breaking is worth it.
You actually don't have a clue how these runs work. You don't even come near the doors. Just break the vases including the ones in the first room, there are hardly any mobs. Then leave game and resume.
edit: with 200% GF + people can easily get 500k/hr, some go up to 800.
Lol. I responded to the advice given, which said "Take the Royal Crypts WP Break all pots of ash up to the Skeleton King's summoning room Leave and Resume" and I said this was a bad idea because you waste time, and then you tell ME that I don't have any idea how these runs are supposed to work because you aren't supposed to go all the way to the SK room? That's... kinda... what... I.... just... said.
Also, no. There's no way you can get 500k/hr doing this.
I get what you mean with the first part, but only now you explained. You do know the summoning room is the room with the 4 pillars right, the one you go UP to, so you don't do that! You do not go up to the skeleton kings boss fight, hence the confusion i guess.
They way you were saying it made me think you ment that these gold runs suck because you get killed opening doors ( Which you never have to do if you go UP to the summoning chambers).
Also, random youtube video of a wizard making 800K/hr:
On June 07 2012 07:07 dAPhREAk wrote: so where is the best place to get gold fast? i heard something about breaking vases in crypt. which crypt?
-Start Sword of the Stranger (Act I Quest 5) -Take the Royal Crypts WP Break all pots of ash up to the Skeleton King's summoning room Leave and Resume
I guess if you wanna pay more in repairs than you make you can do this...
You better quit the game right now if you're dying to those little skeletons enough to repair more than you make breaking vases.
Gear with gold find AND good stats run for 1mil+ per piece. So you have to open those doors and get stuck and get killed a few times per run. Unless of course you play some imbalanced class like Barbarian.
Unless you can get 500k/hr I don't see how vase breaking is worth it.
You actually don't have a clue how these runs work. You don't even come near the doors. Just break the vases including the ones in the first room, there are hardly any mobs. Then leave game and resume.
edit: with 200% GF + people can easily get 500k/hr, some go up to 800.
Lol. I responded to the advice given, which said "Take the Royal Crypts WP Break all pots of ash up to the Skeleton King's summoning room Leave and Resume" and I said this was a bad idea because you waste time, and then you tell ME that I don't have any idea how these runs are supposed to work because you aren't supposed to go all the way to the SK room? That's... kinda... what... I.... just... said.
Also, no. There's no way you can get 500k/hr doing this.
I get what you mean with the first part, but only now you explained. You do know the summoning room is the room with the 4 pillars right, the one you go UP to, so you don't do that! You do not go up to the skeleton kings boss fight, hence the confusion i guess.
They way you were saying it made me think you ment that these gold runs suck because you get killed opening doors ( Which you never have to do if you go UP to the summoning chambers).
Haha, as a wizard, I had no idea I had a spell that would literally break all the vases for me. I was using disintegrate and thought it was pretty perfect for Crypts. Also, to the person that said it was stealth nerfed, did you actually do a bunch of runs, or base that only on a sample size of one or two? I just did 6-8, and they feel exactly the same as they did a few days ago; 8-9k gold every 90 seconds (1 run). That's with 175 GF. I'll try it again now with that silly armor spell in the video and see how much faster the runs get...
Edit: Eh, it's about the same. Maybe 5-10 seconds faster, but not much, and not consistently. Needs a large pickup radius.
On June 07 2012 17:44 EchelonTee wrote: Is the Act 3 chest farming still going well? I thought it got nerfed.
It got nerfed, however doing siegebreaker chest runs now before they nerf that as well.
where can you buy spots for inferno whimsishyre runs? and how much is it worth to buy? (EU, I have 218%mf)
what exactly is the siegebreaker chest run?
im doing siegebreaker runs now with my asskicking buddy tyrael. for the 5 nv stacks i search for champ mobs near way/checkpoints because, i wont lie, i die alot. one at underbridge, one at the bridge wp, 2 in keeps lvl 3. then another one somewhere...then take out siegebreaker, and repeat. with the higher repair costs this would probably not be proftiable anymore though
You go right outside siegebreakers entrance, get the checkpoint, then go to underbridge (a chest spawns there 1/2 or 1/3 of the time)
I also do siege runs with 5 nv stacks, but only if the chest is there first so I can open it with 300% mf
I started doing this yesterday, as far as I seen Underbridge isn't always there but there is always a chest in it.
Are you sure that you can go in the underbridge, explore it all and find no chest?
On June 07 2012 17:44 EchelonTee wrote: Is the Act 3 chest farming still going well? I thought it got nerfed.
It got nerfed, however doing siegebreaker chest runs now before they nerf that as well.
where can you buy spots for inferno whimsishyre runs? and how much is it worth to buy? (EU, I have 218%mf)
what exactly is the siegebreaker chest run?
im doing siegebreaker runs now with my asskicking buddy tyrael. for the 5 nv stacks i search for champ mobs near way/checkpoints because, i wont lie, i die alot. one at underbridge, one at the bridge wp, 2 in keeps lvl 3. then another one somewhere...then take out siegebreaker, and repeat. with the higher repair costs this would probably not be proftiable anymore though
You go right outside siegebreakers entrance, get the checkpoint, then go to underbridge (a chest spawns there 1/2 or 1/3 of the time)
I also do siege runs with 5 nv stacks, but only if the chest is there first so I can open it with 300% mf
I started doing this yesterday, as far as I seen Underbridge isn't always there but there is always a chest in it.
Are you sure that you can go in the underbridge, explore it all and find no chest?
Yeah, I have not found a chest on numerous occasions!
On June 07 2012 17:44 EchelonTee wrote: Is the Act 3 chest farming still going well? I thought it got nerfed.
It got nerfed, however doing siegebreaker chest runs now before they nerf that as well.
where can you buy spots for inferno whimsishyre runs? and how much is it worth to buy? (EU, I have 218%mf)
what exactly is the siegebreaker chest run?
im doing siegebreaker runs now with my asskicking buddy tyrael. for the 5 nv stacks i search for champ mobs near way/checkpoints because, i wont lie, i die alot. one at underbridge, one at the bridge wp, 2 in keeps lvl 3. then another one somewhere...then take out siegebreaker, and repeat. with the higher repair costs this would probably not be proftiable anymore though
You go right outside siegebreakers entrance, get the checkpoint, then go to underbridge (a chest spawns there 1/2 or 1/3 of the time)
I also do siege runs with 5 nv stacks, but only if the chest is there first so I can open it with 300% mf
I started doing this yesterday, as far as I seen Underbridge isn't always there but there is always a chest in it.
Are you sure that you can go in the underbridge, explore it all and find no chest?
Yeah, I have not found a chest on numerous occasions!
The chest is there <50% of the time. I don't know why people like this spot other than as a 1 NV stack for siegebreaker.
The chest is there <50% of the time. I don't know why people like this spot other than as a 1 NV stack for siegebreaker.
Ye also the area is very small and the Elites often camp near the entrance. So kiting is kinda hard. On the other hand you have a Goblin and Chest spawn. I like to go in right before Siegebreaker with 4 stacks to make most use of the possible spawns.
How long does it take you guys to do a 5NV stack Siegebreaker run?
It's been taking me about 40 minutes per, sometimes an hour if the dungeons are long or I'm having trouble finding/killing the elites. Would it be worth it to do with 3NV stacks + 175% magic find gear?
On June 08 2012 04:31 Mondeezy wrote: How long does it take you guys to do a 5NV stack Siegebreaker run?
It's been taking me about 40 minutes per, sometimes an hour if the dungeons are long or I'm having trouble finding/killing the elites. Would it be worth it to do with 3NV stacks + 175% magic find gear?
I dont think so. 5 NV stack is almost a must as it garauntees 2 rares, while MF is boosting a relatively small % to get better than normal items. I have pretty high MF (234% base MF in solo runs), and I notice a very big difference in drops when I go with 3 stacks vs 5 stacks.
On June 08 2012 04:31 Mondeezy wrote: How long does it take you guys to do a 5NV stack Siegebreaker run?
It's been taking me about 40 minutes per, sometimes an hour if the dungeons are long or I'm having trouble finding/killing the elites. Would it be worth it to do with 3NV stacks + 175% magic find gear?
30-60 minutes are normal for me with a mediocre geared wizard. You have 2 guaranteed rares with 5 stacks, i dont know if you even have one guaranteed with less stacks - i highly suggest to get all 5 stacks - go to the keep waypoints if you get stuck anywhere !
On June 08 2012 04:31 Mondeezy wrote: How long does it take you guys to do a 5NV stack Siegebreaker run?
It's been taking me about 40 minutes per, sometimes an hour if the dungeons are long or I'm having trouble finding/killing the elites. Would it be worth it to do with 3NV stacks + 175% magic find gear?
I dont think so. 5 NV stack is almost a must as it garauntees 2 rares, while MF is boosting a relatively small % to get better than normal items. I have pretty high MF (234% base MF in solo runs), and I notice a very big difference in drops when I go with 3 stacks vs 5 stacks.
I think it is pretty obvious NV works differently vs end bosses. MF OTOH is very effective vs elite kills though, especially with 5 NV stacks. I think once they implement the change in the next patch just farming elites will give you the best rares/hr. The question then becomes the best areas to farm elites depending on mob type, density, etc.
On June 08 2012 04:31 Mondeezy wrote: How long does it take you guys to do a 5NV stack Siegebreaker run?
It's been taking me about 40 minutes per, sometimes an hour if the dungeons are long or I'm having trouble finding/killing the elites. Would it be worth it to do with 3NV stacks + 175% magic find gear?
I dont think so. 5 NV stack is almost a must as it garauntees 2 rares, while MF is boosting a relatively small % to get better than normal items. I have pretty high MF (234% base MF in solo runs), and I notice a very big difference in drops when I go with 3 stacks vs 5 stacks.
i have my base gear and my mf gear in my inventory. kill elites/siegebreaker and then right before they die, i switch it all. 5 NV with +200 gear gives me rares on elites and multiple on siegebreaker. i actually find that going after elites is good so i try to get about 5-8 elites before i finish the siegebreaker. you can get them easily as elites usually hang out close to the first three waypoints, then you have the ice caves (or whatever the other one is), a few on the area up to bridge, a few on bridge, a few in the armory/underbridge, etc. plus, you can get up to 3 respldendent chests if you know where to go. runs take longer (about an hour), but you spend a lot more of that time with 5 stacks so you pretty much guaranteed to get better shit each run because more chances.
Just kill siegebreaker or azmodan/spider queen with 5 NV stacks. If you've been grinding act3 enough to be annoyed by the Tyrael nerf you should be able to do Azmodan
On June 10 2012 12:09 diophan wrote: Just kill siegebreaker or azmodan/spider queen with 5 NV stacks. If you've been grinding act3 enough to be annoyed by the Tyrael nerf you should be able to do Azmodan
If they were seriously annoyed by the Tyrael nerf (ie: relying on his single-target, slow 30k attack) then I wouldn't count on it.
is there anything before siege breaker that someone can list? My wizard (24k dps, 35k hp, 400 all resist) is currently not strong enough to get to get to the boss.
On June 10 2012 11:59 riotjune wrote: Better not suggest new grind spots or blizz will nerf that too! And everything else for that matter...Soon there'll be nothing left to grind!
It's hard to catch up as it is right now...boo
The problem is that in terms of legitimate runs, A2/early A3 are terrible.
A1 was pretty well structured. You've got a pretty straightforward progression from Crypts->SkelK->Warden/Butcher. Then when you get to A2, all the layouts are awful for runs. Alcarnus, for example--getting stacks for it sucks because you have to spend ages wandering around in wide open areas looking for Elites--even if doing the runs are easy for you, its a huge chore to actually pick up stacks, and you waste a lot of time wandering around. Getting stacks for Kulle is equally annoying, and progressing Kulle->Belial involves a lot of wasted in-between time where you're not killing anything meaningful getting from Kulle to Belial.
Early A3 has the problem that there are no act bosses in the first 2 quests, and Ghom runs suck because the layouts for the Keep Depths are absolutely terrible (giant labyrinth with lots of dead ends = a lot of wasted time). Not to mention the problems Soul Rippers cause for ranged in such tight enclosed spaces.
This is why people resorted to grind spots instead of doing legitimate runs--because between Butcher and Siegebreaker, the legitimate runs all suck.
On June 10 2012 11:59 riotjune wrote: Better not suggest new grind spots or blizz will nerf that too! And everything else for that matter...Soon there'll be nothing left to grind!
It's hard to catch up as it is right now...boo
The problem is that in terms of legitimate runs, A2/early A3 are terrible.
A1 was pretty well structured. You've got a pretty straightforward progression from Crypts->SkelK->Warden/Butcher. Then when you get to A2, all the layouts are awful for runs. Alcarnus, for example--getting stacks for it sucks because you have to spend ages wandering around in wide open areas looking for Elites--even if doing the runs are easy for you, its a huge chore to actually pick up stacks, and you waste a lot of time wandering around. Getting stacks for Kulle is equally annoying, and progressing Kulle->Belial involves a lot of wasted in-between time where you're not killing anything meaningful getting from Kulle to Belial.
Early A3 has the problem that there are no act bosses in the first 2 quests, and Ghom runs suck because the layouts for the Keep Depths are absolutely terrible (giant labyrinth with lots of dead ends = a lot of wasted time). Not to mention the problems Soul Rippers cause for ranged in such tight enclosed spaces.
This is why people resorted to grind spots instead of doing legitimate runs--because between Butcher and Siegebreaker, the legitimate runs all suck.
Kulle --> Belial runs are pretty decent. In my experience, you can get your stacks pretty easily by doing the first pack in Alcarnus (almost always one just a little past the bridge and the first prisoner cages), and then going in the two little dungeons before Khulle. Actually, usually just clearing one of the two will do it, they're loaded with elite packs. And the time between Khulle and Belial isn't that long, probably about 5 minutes if you can rush through it.
I agree it's not as good as Siegebreaker, Warden/Butcher, or Cydea/Azmo, but if you're stuck in Act 2 it's definitely the way to go.
So what exactly are the prefered "grind spots" now after all the nerfs and hotfixes? Or are Kulle runs the preferred route of farming for a Barb trying to do act 3?
Ok, Does Pony Land even worth your effort to farm? I farmed for nearly 20 hours for last 2 days and the loots table is almost the same as Act 2 Inferno at best.
Pony drops apparently have an extremely wide range to drop, so its not very efficient. I farmed it for a few days and never found anything worthwhile. When you clear it you can get alot of essences by getting 4 ppl in game and punching clouds though, alot of lvl 60 blues, bout it.
The only reason its half decent is you can get the horses stuck on the tree by the cat picture on the map, so undergeared range char can do it easily enough.
As most people I'm stuck at 1st Inferno Act, my gear is too weak for 2nd Act: 41k hp, 16k dps, ~4k Armor (without FA, since I'm using SA for running) I'm doing crit build, +30% crit chance and +170% crit damage and doing just fine without any problems.
Butcher runs, however, don't give me any beneficial items which I could sell for good money. Most of it is uber crap. I'm really having trouble with gold, farming seems forever. I read this thread but most of things are already fixed/nerfed. I need gold for AH gear however it takes me too much time even for small 100k, so:
Can anyone give me recipe how to CURRENTLY farm gold/items on Inferno Act 1? I'm going to buy some gold find stuff, however I don't know how/where to farm since everything is so fast fixed/nerfed. I really want to go to Act 2, but without at least 25k DPS it's not worth it. I feel like I'm REALLY poor in this game and everyone else is rich since they know how to. It really sucks.
On June 11 2012 21:38 Gamera wrote: = Help please Inferno Wizzard newb here =
As most people I'm stuck at 1st Inferno Act, my gear is too weak for 2nd Act: 41k hp, 16k dps, ~4k Armor (without FA, since I'm using SA for running) I'm doing crit build, +30% crit chance and +170% crit damage and doing just fine without any problems.
Butcher runs, however, don't give me any beneficial items which I could sell for good money. Most of it is uber crap. I'm really having trouble with gold, farming seems forever. I read this thread but most of things are already fixed/nerfed. I need gold for AH gear however it takes me too much time even for small 100k, so:
Can anyone give me recipe how to CURRENTLY farm gold/items on Inferno Act 1? I'm going to buy some gold find stuff, however I don't know how/where to farm since everything is so fast fixed/nerfed. I really want to go to Act 2, but without at least 25k DPS it's not worth it. I feel like I'm REALLY poor in this game and everyone else is rich since they know how to. It really sucks.
just buy a 1k dps weapon or public game to leech item/$$ off the run.If not then kite all the way to win.
On June 11 2012 21:38 Gamera wrote: = Help please Inferno Wizzard newb here =
As most people I'm stuck at 1st Inferno Act, my gear is too weak for 2nd Act: 41k hp, 16k dps, ~4k Armor (without FA, since I'm using SA for running) I'm doing crit build, +30% crit chance and +170% crit damage and doing just fine without any problems.
Butcher runs, however, don't give me any beneficial items which I could sell for good money. Most of it is uber crap. I'm really having trouble with gold, farming seems forever. I read this thread but most of things are already fixed/nerfed. I need gold for AH gear however it takes me too much time even for small 100k, so:
Can anyone give me recipe how to CURRENTLY farm gold/items on Inferno Act 1? I'm going to buy some gold find stuff, however I don't know how/where to farm since everything is so fast fixed/nerfed. I really want to go to Act 2, but without at least 25k DPS it's not worth it. I feel like I'm REALLY poor in this game and everyone else is rich since they know how to. It really sucks.
On June 11 2012 21:38 Gamera wrote: = Help please Inferno Wizzard newb here =
As most people I'm stuck at 1st Inferno Act, my gear is too weak for 2nd Act: 41k hp, 16k dps, ~4k Armor (without FA, since I'm using SA for running) I'm doing crit build, +30% crit chance and +170% crit damage and doing just fine without any problems.
Butcher runs, however, don't give me any beneficial items which I could sell for good money. Most of it is uber crap. I'm really having trouble with gold, farming seems forever. I read this thread but most of things are already fixed/nerfed. I need gold for AH gear however it takes me too much time even for small 100k, so:
Can anyone give me recipe how to CURRENTLY farm gold/items on Inferno Act 1? I'm going to buy some gold find stuff, however I don't know how/where to farm since everything is so fast fixed/nerfed. I really want to go to Act 2, but without at least 25k DPS it's not worth it. I feel like I'm REALLY poor in this game and everyone else is rich since they know how to. It really sucks.
stop stacking so much hp and get some actual damage. 16k dps means you're probably not running glass canon/ force weapon which is a must. If your weapon is shit buy a 1100-1200 dps blue 2 hander for <300k get 30-40k dps 20-25k hp 300 allres. run FA, glass cannon, and force weapon. flux AO/hydra as your left/right click. Make sure u have at least 1.3 atk speed so u can kite properly then start stacking crit. and u can faceroll (meaning u can kite elites for 5 minutes) up to act3.
Last 2 skills should be Diamond skin (21k hp rune) and Teleport/Fracture. If u really want u can switch AO with blizzard but i prefer AO by FAR.
I'm farming Azmodan like he's a joke with 52k dps 22k hp.
Pony land is pretty damn good. You can get ilvl63 things there (archon armor series + best weapons). It appears that >50% of items are ilvl60 or higher, meaning that there's a ton of salvage material. Also all the mobs are melee making it really easy for ranged characters. Unicorn elites are also sooo easy to deal with.
This is the best part about pony land: a player can clear the entire level but leave clouds/pinata intact. Then invite 3 friends (with much poorer gear) and profit.
On June 11 2012 22:31 Heh_ wrote: Pony land is pretty damn good. You can get ilvl63 things there (archon armor series + best weapons). It appears that >50% of items are ilvl60 or higher, meaning that there's a ton of salvage material. Also all the mobs are melee making it really easy for ranged characters. Unicorn elites are also sooo easy to deal with.
This is the best part about pony land: a player can clear the entire level but leave clouds/pinata intact. Then invite 3 friends (with much poorer gear) and profit.
is pony land that good on inferno? i'm in act 1 inferno and i can't progress to act 2 due to being undergeared as a monk, and i'm thinking of making the hellish staff and farming pony level. is it worth it now that the royal cripts have been nerfed?
On June 11 2012 22:31 Heh_ wrote: Pony land is pretty damn good. You can get ilvl63 things there (archon armor series + best weapons). It appears that >50% of items are ilvl60 or higher, meaning that there's a ton of salvage material. Also all the mobs are melee making it really easy for ranged characters. Unicorn elites are also sooo easy to deal with.
This is the best part about pony land: a player can clear the entire level but leave clouds/pinata intact. Then invite 3 friends (with much poorer gear) and profit.
is pony land that good on inferno? i'm in act 1 inferno and i can't progress to act 2 due to being undergeared as a monk, and i'm thinking of making the hellish staff and farming pony level. is it worth it now that the royal cripts have been nerfed?
I'm talking about inferno pony. You need decent gear to do it though, the flowers and cuddle bears hit really hard and will be tough for melee classes. It's an alternative to farming A3 since the underbridge and keep depths lvl 1 have been nerfed. Your best bet is to keep doing warden/butcher runs until you get better gear.
On June 11 2012 22:31 Heh_ wrote: Pony land is pretty damn good. You can get ilvl63 things there (archon armor series + best weapons). It appears that >50% of items are ilvl60 or higher, meaning that there's a ton of salvage material. Also all the mobs are melee making it really easy for ranged characters. Unicorn elites are also sooo easy to deal with.
This is the best part about pony land: a player can clear the entire level but leave clouds/pinata intact. Then invite 3 friends (with much poorer gear) and profit.
is pony land that good on inferno? i'm in act 1 inferno and i can't progress to act 2 due to being undergeared as a monk, and i'm thinking of making the hellish staff and farming pony level. is it worth it now that the royal cripts have been nerfed?
I'm talking about inferno pony. You need decent gear to do it though, the flowers and cuddle bears hit really hard and will be tough for melee classes. It's an alternative to farming A3 since the underbridge and keep depths lvl 1 have been nerfed. Your best bet is to keep doing warden/butcher runs until you get better gear.
On June 11 2012 22:31 Heh_ wrote: Pony land is pretty damn good. You can get ilvl63 things there (archon armor series + best weapons). It appears that >50% of items are ilvl60 or higher, meaning that there's a ton of salvage material. Also all the mobs are melee making it really easy for ranged characters. Unicorn elites are also sooo easy to deal with.
This is the best part about pony land: a player can clear the entire level but leave clouds/pinata intact. Then invite 3 friends (with much poorer gear) and profit.
is pony land that good on inferno? i'm in act 1 inferno and i can't progress to act 2 due to being undergeared as a monk, and i'm thinking of making the hellish staff and farming pony level. is it worth it now that the royal cripts have been nerfed?
I'm talking about inferno pony. You need decent gear to do it though, the flowers and cuddle bears hit really hard and will be tough for melee classes. It's an alternative to farming A3 since the underbridge and keep depths lvl 1 have been nerfed. Your best bet is to keep doing warden/butcher runs until you get better gear.
damn. i'm sick of warden-butcher runs.
Act 2 goblin runs are way better than anything act one.
On June 11 2012 22:31 Heh_ wrote: Pony land is pretty damn good. You can get ilvl63 things there (archon armor series + best weapons). It appears that >50% of items are ilvl60 or higher, meaning that there's a ton of salvage material. Also all the mobs are melee making it really easy for ranged characters. Unicorn elites are also sooo easy to deal with.
This is the best part about pony land: a player can clear the entire level but leave clouds/pinata intact. Then invite 3 friends (with much poorer gear) and profit.
is pony land that good on inferno? i'm in act 1 inferno and i can't progress to act 2 due to being undergeared as a monk, and i'm thinking of making the hellish staff and farming pony level. is it worth it now that the royal cripts have been nerfed?
I'm talking about inferno pony. You need decent gear to do it though, the flowers and cuddle bears hit really hard and will be tough for melee classes. It's an alternative to farming A3 since the underbridge and keep depths lvl 1 have been nerfed. Your best bet is to keep doing warden/butcher runs until you get better gear.
damn. i'm sick of warden-butcher runs.
Act 2 goblin runs are way better than anything act one.
i can't get past the first quest in act 2.
anyways, where can i find that goblin/s and how can i farm it? thx
On June 11 2012 22:31 Heh_ wrote: Pony land is pretty damn good. You can get ilvl63 things there (archon armor series + best weapons). It appears that >50% of items are ilvl60 or higher, meaning that there's a ton of salvage material. Also all the mobs are melee making it really easy for ranged characters. Unicorn elites are also sooo easy to deal with.
This is the best part about pony land: a player can clear the entire level but leave clouds/pinata intact. Then invite 3 friends (with much poorer gear) and profit.
is pony land that good on inferno? i'm in act 1 inferno and i can't progress to act 2 due to being undergeared as a monk, and i'm thinking of making the hellish staff and farming pony level. is it worth it now that the royal cripts have been nerfed?
I'm talking about inferno pony. You need decent gear to do it though, the flowers and cuddle bears hit really hard and will be tough for melee classes. It's an alternative to farming A3 since the underbridge and keep depths lvl 1 have been nerfed. Your best bet is to keep doing warden/butcher runs until you get better gear.
damn. i'm sick of warden-butcher runs.
Act 2 goblin runs are way better than anything act one.
i can't get past the first quest in act 2.
anyways, where can i find that goblin/s and how can i farm it? thx
Ancient pathway, you need to complete quest 8 (kill Zoltun Kulle) to unlock it. Get someone to unlock it for you.
On June 11 2012 22:31 Heh_ wrote: Pony land is pretty damn good. You can get ilvl63 things there (archon armor series + best weapons). It appears that >50% of items are ilvl60 or higher, meaning that there's a ton of salvage material. Also all the mobs are melee making it really easy for ranged characters. Unicorn elites are also sooo easy to deal with.
This is the best part about pony land: a player can clear the entire level but leave clouds/pinata intact. Then invite 3 friends (with much poorer gear) and profit.
is pony land that good on inferno? i'm in act 1 inferno and i can't progress to act 2 due to being undergeared as a monk, and i'm thinking of making the hellish staff and farming pony level. is it worth it now that the royal cripts have been nerfed?
I'm talking about inferno pony. You need decent gear to do it though, the flowers and cuddle bears hit really hard and will be tough for melee classes. It's an alternative to farming A3 since the underbridge and keep depths lvl 1 have been nerfed. Your best bet is to keep doing warden/butcher runs until you get better gear.
damn. i'm sick of warden-butcher runs.
Act 2 goblin runs are way better than anything act one.
i can't get past the first quest in act 2.
anyways, where can i find that goblin/s and how can i farm it? thx
Ancient pathway, you need to complete quest 8 (kill Zoltun Kulle) to unlock it. Get someone to unlock it for you.
ah can anybody help me unlock that quest on the EU server?
On June 11 2012 22:31 Heh_ wrote: Pony land is pretty damn good. You can get ilvl63 things there (archon armor series + best weapons). It appears that >50% of items are ilvl60 or higher, meaning that there's a ton of salvage material. Also all the mobs are melee making it really easy for ranged characters. Unicorn elites are also sooo easy to deal with.
This is the best part about pony land: a player can clear the entire level but leave clouds/pinata intact. Then invite 3 friends (with much poorer gear) and profit.
is pony land that good on inferno? i'm in act 1 inferno and i can't progress to act 2 due to being undergeared as a monk, and i'm thinking of making the hellish staff and farming pony level. is it worth it now that the royal cripts have been nerfed?
I'm talking about inferno pony. You need decent gear to do it though, the flowers and cuddle bears hit really hard and will be tough for melee classes. It's an alternative to farming A3 since the underbridge and keep depths lvl 1 have been nerfed. Your best bet is to keep doing warden/butcher runs until you get better gear.
damn. i'm sick of warden-butcher runs.
Act 2 goblin runs are way better than anything act one.
i can't get past the first quest in act 2.
anyways, where can i find that goblin/s and how can i farm it? thx
Ancient pathway, you need to complete quest 8 (kill Zoltun Kulle) to unlock it. Get someone to unlock it for you.
ah can anybody help me unlock that quest on the EU server?
You can still use the difficulty-skipping trick if you have at least 1 quest available in that act (the hotfix only prevents people from skipping entire acts--you can still skip quests within an act).
If you have the A2Q1 waypoint, you can still use the old difficulty-skipping trick to open later quests in A2.
On June 11 2012 22:31 Heh_ wrote: Pony land is pretty damn good. You can get ilvl63 things there (archon armor series + best weapons). It appears that >50% of items are ilvl60 or higher, meaning that there's a ton of salvage material. Also all the mobs are melee making it really easy for ranged characters. Unicorn elites are also sooo easy to deal with.
This is the best part about pony land: a player can clear the entire level but leave clouds/pinata intact. Then invite 3 friends (with much poorer gear) and profit.
is pony land that good on inferno? i'm in act 1 inferno and i can't progress to act 2 due to being undergeared as a monk, and i'm thinking of making the hellish staff and farming pony level. is it worth it now that the royal cripts have been nerfed?
I'm talking about inferno pony. You need decent gear to do it though, the flowers and cuddle bears hit really hard and will be tough for melee classes. It's an alternative to farming A3 since the underbridge and keep depths lvl 1 have been nerfed. Your best bet is to keep doing warden/butcher runs until you get better gear.
damn. i'm sick of warden-butcher runs.
Act 2 goblin runs are way better than anything act one.
i can't get past the first quest in act 2.
anyways, where can i find that goblin/s and how can i farm it? thx
Ancient pathway, you need to complete quest 8 (kill Zoltun Kulle) to unlock it. Get someone to unlock it for you.
ah can anybody help me unlock that quest on the EU server?
You can still use the difficulty-skipping trick if you have at least 1 quest available in that act (the hotfix only prevents people from skipping entire acts--you can still skip quests within an act).
If you have the A2Q1 waypoint, you can still use the old difficulty-skipping trick to open later quests in A2.
So that's how it works... Was wondering why I could help others unlock certain quests but not others. Good luck to everyone without an A3 waypoint. Belial will be SOOOO fun.
On June 11 2012 22:31 Heh_ wrote: Pony land is pretty damn good. You can get ilvl63 things there (archon armor series + best weapons). It appears that >50% of items are ilvl60 or higher, meaning that there's a ton of salvage material. Also all the mobs are melee making it really easy for ranged characters. Unicorn elites are also sooo easy to deal with.
This is the best part about pony land: a player can clear the entire level but leave clouds/pinata intact. Then invite 3 friends (with much poorer gear) and profit.
is pony land that good on inferno? i'm in act 1 inferno and i can't progress to act 2 due to being undergeared as a monk, and i'm thinking of making the hellish staff and farming pony level. is it worth it now that the royal cripts have been nerfed?
I'm talking about inferno pony. You need decent gear to do it though, the flowers and cuddle bears hit really hard and will be tough for melee classes. It's an alternative to farming A3 since the underbridge and keep depths lvl 1 have been nerfed. Your best bet is to keep doing warden/butcher runs until you get better gear.
damn. i'm sick of warden-butcher runs.
Act 2 goblin runs are way better than anything act one.
i can't get past the first quest in act 2.
anyways, where can i find that goblin/s and how can i farm it? thx
Ancient pathway, you need to complete quest 8 (kill Zoltun Kulle) to unlock it. Get someone to unlock it for you.
ah can anybody help me unlock that quest on the EU server?
You can still use the difficulty-skipping trick if you have at least 1 quest available in that act (the hotfix only prevents people from skipping entire acts--you can still skip quests within an act).
If you have the A2Q1 waypoint, you can still use the old difficulty-skipping trick to open later quests in A2.
wrong
lets say u dont have A2 unlock but wants to go A3 have a friend open A3 join his game complete 1 quest your account will record that u completed that quest and able to access that quest again anytime.
When I'm lazy, the tower of the cursed lvl 2 area using the exploit of shooting ennemies over the edge is one of the best spot I know. 2-3 yellows guaranteed each run (10min run for me).
On June 11 2012 22:31 Heh_ wrote: Pony land is pretty damn good. You can get ilvl63 things there (archon armor series + best weapons). It appears that >50% of items are ilvl60 or higher, meaning that there's a ton of salvage material. Also all the mobs are melee making it really easy for ranged characters. Unicorn elites are also sooo easy to deal with.
This is the best part about pony land: a player can clear the entire level but leave clouds/pinata intact. Then invite 3 friends (with much poorer gear) and profit.
is pony land that good on inferno? i'm in act 1 inferno and i can't progress to act 2 due to being undergeared as a monk, and i'm thinking of making the hellish staff and farming pony level. is it worth it now that the royal cripts have been nerfed?
I'm talking about inferno pony. You need decent gear to do it though, the flowers and cuddle bears hit really hard and will be tough for melee classes. It's an alternative to farming A3 since the underbridge and keep depths lvl 1 have been nerfed. Your best bet is to keep doing warden/butcher runs until you get better gear.
damn. i'm sick of warden-butcher runs.
Act 2 goblin runs are way better than anything act one.
i can't get past the first quest in act 2.
anyways, where can i find that goblin/s and how can i farm it? thx
Ancient pathway, you need to complete quest 8 (kill Zoltun Kulle) to unlock it. Get someone to unlock it for you.
ah can anybody help me unlock that quest on the EU server?
You can still use the difficulty-skipping trick if you have at least 1 quest available in that act (the hotfix only prevents people from skipping entire acts--you can still skip quests within an act).
If you have the A2Q1 waypoint, you can still use the old difficulty-skipping trick to open later quests in A2.
wrong
lets say u dont have A2 unlock but wants to go A3 have a friend open A3 join his game complete 1 quest your account will record that u completed that quest and able to access that quest again anytime.
That's not the difficulty skipping trick which was hotfixed, which is what I was talking about.
On June 12 2012 00:19 HyunA wrote: [quote] is pony land that good on inferno? i'm in act 1 inferno and i can't progress to act 2 due to being undergeared as a monk, and i'm thinking of making the hellish staff and farming pony level. is it worth it now that the royal cripts have been nerfed?
I'm talking about inferno pony. You need decent gear to do it though, the flowers and cuddle bears hit really hard and will be tough for melee classes. It's an alternative to farming A3 since the underbridge and keep depths lvl 1 have been nerfed. Your best bet is to keep doing warden/butcher runs until you get better gear.
damn. i'm sick of warden-butcher runs.
Act 2 goblin runs are way better than anything act one.
i can't get past the first quest in act 2.
anyways, where can i find that goblin/s and how can i farm it? thx
Ancient pathway, you need to complete quest 8 (kill Zoltun Kulle) to unlock it. Get someone to unlock it for you.
ah can anybody help me unlock that quest on the EU server?
You can still use the difficulty-skipping trick if you have at least 1 quest available in that act (the hotfix only prevents people from skipping entire acts--you can still skip quests within an act).
If you have the A2Q1 waypoint, you can still use the old difficulty-skipping trick to open later quests in A2.
wrong
lets say u dont have A2 unlock but wants to go A3 have a friend open A3 join his game complete 1 quest your account will record that u completed that quest and able to access that quest again anytime.
That's not the difficulty skipping trick which was hotfixed, which is what I was talking about.
Do you mind explaining in greater detail? What exactly has been hotfixed? I think it's skipping acts as you mentioned, but I'm not entirely sure. In my experience, you can skip quests in the same act, but quests in different levels don't get saved (you can still access the quest as long as you can click "resume game").
I believe he means the one I used to open Siegebreaker while not even setting foot in Act II yet
Open up a game of siegebreaker (hell) solo enter it and leave now open public games and it gives you the option to join siegebreaker (inferno) join a game, leave start a new inferno siegebreaker solo
On June 12 2012 02:16 daemir wrote: I believe he means the one I used to open Siegebreaker while not even setting foot in Act II yet
Open up a game of siegebreaker (hell) solo enter it and leave now open public games and it gives you the option to join siegebreaker (inferno) join a game, leave start a new inferno siegebreaker solo
Path of least resistance! You'd think they'd at least find or fix issues like this. Internal testers...yeah where?
On June 12 2012 02:16 daemir wrote: I believe he means the one I used to open Siegebreaker while not even setting foot in Act II yet
Open up a game of siegebreaker (hell) solo enter it and leave now open public games and it gives you the option to join siegebreaker (inferno) join a game, leave start a new inferno siegebreaker solo
Path of least resistance! You'd think they'd at least find or fix issues like this. Internal testers...yeah where?
On June 12 2012 02:16 daemir wrote: I believe he means the one I used to open Siegebreaker while not even setting foot in Act II yet
Open up a game of siegebreaker (hell) solo enter it and leave now open public games and it gives you the option to join siegebreaker (inferno) join a game, leave start a new inferno siegebreaker solo
Path of least resistance! You'd think they'd at least find or fix issues like this. Internal testers...yeah where?
sitting on your chair in front of your pc. WE are the open beta testers.
some area that also drops quite well are the towers and crater levels. the towers offer great potential for abuse, particularly with wizards and dhs, and the craters have easy opponents (scorpions, fallens) in high quantity. however, these levels can get quite annoying enemies, so Im not yet convinced that this sort of run (with cydea and azmodan as a finish) beats siegebreaker runs.
On June 12 2012 01:58 rezoacken wrote: When I'm lazy, the tower of the cursed lvl 2 area using the exploit of shooting ennemies over the edge is one of the best spot I know. 2-3 yellows guaranteed each run (10min run for me).
So this looks fixed.
What is the next exploit in A3 A4 ?
Can't do another siegebreaker run for my sanity O.O
On June 12 2012 01:58 rezoacken wrote: When I'm lazy, the tower of the cursed lvl 2 area using the exploit of shooting ennemies over the edge is one of the best spot I know. 2-3 yellows guaranteed each run (10min run for me).
So this looks fixed.
What is the next exploit in A3 A4 ?
Can't do another siegebreaker run for my sanity O.O
Buy a lvl60 legendary for 20k, salvage it and sell crafting mats.
On June 12 2012 01:58 rezoacken wrote: When I'm lazy, the tower of the cursed lvl 2 area using the exploit of shooting ennemies over the edge is one of the best spot I know. 2-3 yellows guaranteed each run (10min run for me).
So this looks fixed.
What is the next exploit in A3 A4 ?
Can't do another siegebreaker run for my sanity O.O
Buy a lvl60 legendary for 20k, salvage it and sell crafting mats.
How are people doing Cydaea/Azmodan runs? I only have 2-4 stacks when I get to Cydaea. Do you try to get five somewhere else or don't bother? Starting from Arreat Crater 2 is a no go for me since it usually contains soul ripper and phase beast packs.
On June 12 2012 12:52 andrewlt wrote: How are people doing Cydaea/Azmodan runs? I only have 2-4 stacks when I get to Cydaea. Do you try to get five somewhere else or don't bother? Starting from Arreat Crater 2 is a no go for me since it usually contains soul ripper and phase beast packs.
Strange most of the time I have 5 stacks by the time I reach Cydea. But if I don't have 5 I just WP hop around until I find an elite (usually can find one pretty quickly by checking around Rakkis or Bridge WP).
I can finally do act 3. I'm pretty late, so I'm wondering if siegebreaker is still a good farming spot? Back when I was stuck in act 1/2, I remember reading mostly about people doing siegebreaker. Should I continue doing that or is there something else better, perhaps Cydaea/Azmodan?
On June 12 2012 12:52 andrewlt wrote: How are people doing Cydaea/Azmodan runs? I only have 2-4 stacks when I get to Cydaea. Do you try to get five somewhere else or don't bother? Starting from Arreat Crater 2 is a no go for me since it usually contains soul ripper and phase beast packs.
It's luck, I've seen anywhere from 2-7 elites before Cydaea.
If I have 3-4, I'll just go to other areas (Crater level 1, Rakkis) until I get 5. If 2, sometimes just remake.
On June 12 2012 12:52 andrewlt wrote: How are people doing Cydaea/Azmodan runs? I only have 2-4 stacks when I get to Cydaea. Do you try to get five somewhere else or don't bother? Starting from Arreat Crater 2 is a no go for me since it usually contains soul ripper and phase beast packs.
Normally I go to the Keep Depths lvl 3 WP, there's always a elite pack close by, and then I get another stack at Stonefort. 2 stacks should be enough.
On June 12 2012 01:58 rezoacken wrote: When I'm lazy, the tower of the cursed lvl 2 area using the exploit of shooting ennemies over the edge is one of the best spot I know. 2-3 yellows guaranteed each run (10min run for me).
So this looks fixed.
What is the next exploit in A3 A4 ?
Can't do another siegebreaker run for my sanity O.O
Buy a lvl60 legendary for 20k, salvage it and sell crafting mats.
They sell for 21k
Don't forget that you also get two iridescent tears.
On June 12 2012 01:58 rezoacken wrote: When I'm lazy, the tower of the cursed lvl 2 area using the exploit of shooting ennemies over the edge is one of the best spot I know. 2-3 yellows guaranteed each run (10min run for me).
So this looks fixed.
What is the next exploit in A3 A4 ?
Can't do another siegebreaker run for my sanity O.O
Buy a lvl60 legendary for 20k, salvage it and sell crafting mats.
They sell for 21k
Don't forget that you also get two iridescent tears.
Which sell for like 1k, not really effecient ;E.
You get brimstone from l59 legendaries aswell btw if anyone wants to do this.
On June 12 2012 01:58 rezoacken wrote: When I'm lazy, the tower of the cursed lvl 2 area using the exploit of shooting ennemies over the edge is one of the best spot I know. 2-3 yellows guaranteed each run (10min run for me).
So this looks fixed.
What is the next exploit in A3 A4 ?
Can't do another siegebreaker run for my sanity O.O
Buy a lvl60 legendary for 20k, salvage it and sell crafting mats.
They sell for 21k
Don't forget that you also get two iridescent tears.
Which sell for like 1k, not really effecient ;E.
You get brimstone from l59 legendaries aswell btw if anyone wants to do this.
okay I've been doing act2 inferno goblin farming for 3 days now, and I got shit :/ did they nerf that or am I just having really bad luck? like, 300dps weapons and shit. the gold is also crap.
On June 13 2012 03:20 garett wrote: okay I've been doing act2 inferno goblin farming for 3 days now, and I got shit :/ did they nerf that or am I just having really bad luck? like, 300dps weapons and shit. the gold is also crap.
its garbage. i dont understand why people do it over and over for the minute chance that you may get a good weapon. if you go as far as possible you get decent drops on a regular basis (even from white enemies, breaking barrels, weak chests, etc.).
On June 12 2012 12:52 andrewlt wrote: How are people doing Cydaea/Azmodan runs? I only have 2-4 stacks when I get to Cydaea. Do you try to get five somewhere else or don't bother? Starting from Arreat Crater 2 is a no go for me since it usually contains soul ripper and phase beast packs.
I just go to keep depths lvl 1 or something if you need to. Just make sure not to use TP again, only use waypoints so you don't need to run all the way back.
On June 13 2012 03:20 garett wrote: okay I've been doing act2 inferno goblin farming for 3 days now, and I got shit :/ did they nerf that or am I just having really bad luck? like, 300dps weapons and shit. the gold is also crap.
its garbage. i dont understand why people do it over and over for the minute chance that you may get a good weapon. if you go as far as possible you get decent drops on a regular basis (even from white enemies, breaking barrels, weak chests, etc.).
You're not really looking for weapons because the ilvl isn't great imo, but the sheer number of rares gives you pretty good shots at armor pieces.
On June 13 2012 03:20 garett wrote: okay I've been doing act2 inferno goblin farming for 3 days now, and I got shit :/ did they nerf that or am I just having really bad luck? like, 300dps weapons and shit. the gold is also crap.
its garbage. i dont understand why people do it over and over for the minute chance that you may get a good weapon. if you go as far as possible you get decent drops on a regular basis (even from white enemies, breaking barrels, weak chests, etc.).
You're not really looking for weapons because the ilvl isn't great imo, but the sheer number of rares gives you pretty good shots at armor pieces.
pre-tyrael nerf, everytime i did a siegebreaker run, i found at least one good thing either for myself or for a friend. i did about 30-40 goblin runs and found shit. =( maybe i just have bad luck on goblins.
For me Act 1 has been alright. I get a legendary every 3 or so runs. Sorta gets boring though. If you can farm Act III, you will make a lot more (due to the nonstop action), however, this means you have to get through the great wall that is Act II, which is sorta a pain. Good Luck!
has anyone noticed item drops have been nerfed it seems like, I used to farm act 1-3 and get decent items with stats and now I am just farming cydea-asmodan cause I can clear it really fast and all my drops are just complete garbage like maybe 1-20 yellows will be semi decent. I am now getting lvl 54-51 items in act 3 asmodan and cydea wth.
On June 13 2012 07:49 Lowkin wrote: has anyone noticed item drops have been nerfed it seems like, I used to farm act 1-3 and get decent items with stats and now I am just farming cydea-asmodan cause I can clear it really fast and all my drops are just complete garbage like maybe 1-20 yellows will be semi decent. I am now getting lvl 54-51 items in act 3 asmodan and cydea wth.
I've been getting REALLY shit drops today in spider/az runs, even getting a few lvl 51 items.. but I think that's just bad luck.
What kind of income are you guys averaging on butcher runs / azmodan runs? I have a gold farming spot that nets me 300-400k/hr and I don't have the gear to run A3 yet, but I'm not sure if I should test my luck in Inferno or just keep on ezmoding NM.
On June 13 2012 06:01 KookyMonster wrote: For me Act 1 has been alright. I get a legendary every 3 or so runs. Sorta gets boring though. If you can farm Act III, you will make a lot more (due to the nonstop action), however, this means you have to get through the great wall that is Act II, which is sorta a pain. Good Luck!
how and where the f*ck did you get a legendary every third run? O_O i'm going crazy here because i can't farm squat with my monk.
On June 13 2012 08:20 EchelonTee wrote: What kind of income are you guys averaging on butcher runs / azmodan runs? I have a gold farming spot that nets me 600-700k/hr and I don't have the gear to run A3 yet, but I'm not sure if I should test my luck in Inferno or just keep on ezmoding NM.
what's that farming spot? after the royal crypts nerf i didn't find any grinding spot where i can make more than 150k+ per hour please pm a sad monk.
On June 13 2012 11:09 Oceanic wrote: Hey guys I was just wondering if A2 had a type of designated run sort of like how A1 has warden-butcher and A3 has siegebreaker+cydea/azmo
kulle+ belial obv
but i wouldnt bother. takes rather long, belial is dangerous for many and lvl 50 rares are way way more common then the lvl 62 ones that are the reason someone would to act2.
On June 13 2012 11:09 Oceanic wrote: Hey guys I was just wondering if A2 had a type of designated run sort of like how A1 has warden-butcher and A3 has siegebreaker+cydea/azmo
farm act 1 inferno. good shit drops. i got a glove earlier that had 150 int, 39 all resist, 60 vit, and extra resistance to fire. Just keep farming while stacking ur mf.
On June 13 2012 07:49 Lowkin wrote: has anyone noticed item drops have been nerfed it seems like, I used to farm act 1-3 and get decent items with stats and now I am just farming cydea-asmodan cause I can clear it really fast and all my drops are just complete garbage like maybe 1-20 yellows will be semi decent. I am now getting lvl 54-51 items in act 3 asmodan and cydea wth.
I've been getting REALLY shit drops today in spider/az runs, even getting a few lvl 51 items.. but I think that's just bad luck.
Same here, the last few days cydaea/azmodan runs have been dropping tons of low level gear. Very irritating especially since I can't swap to MF gear for Azmodan, and sometimes can't risk it for Cydaea too.
On June 13 2012 07:49 Lowkin wrote: has anyone noticed item drops have been nerfed it seems like, I used to farm act 1-3 and get decent items with stats and now I am just farming cydea-asmodan cause I can clear it really fast and all my drops are just complete garbage like maybe 1-20 yellows will be semi decent. I am now getting lvl 54-51 items in act 3 asmodan and cydea wth.
I've been getting REALLY shit drops today in spider/az runs, even getting a few lvl 51 items.. but I think that's just bad luck.
Same here, the last few days cydaea/azmodan runs have been dropping tons of low level gear. Very irritating especially since I can't swap to MF gear for Azmodan, and sometimes can't risk it for Cydaea too.
I've noticed this too, it's seemed... oddly poor. But I don't think it's an actual hard change, just a bad luck streak. My friends have found some pretty good stuff in the same runs.
Anyone know a good place to farm if act 1 is too east but act 2 and act 3 are still too hard? I've done probably 70 butcher runs, and I'm looking for something new, but I haven't found anything that gets a decent number of rares besides butcher runs. I'm a monk with about 500 resists, 36k health, 23k dps, 6k armor. What do?
With high MF i think it's just better to farm packs instead of boss. 1-2 rare every pack with 5 stacks. Too bad in this stupid game bosses are easier than packs -.-
I'm doing maghda runs in act 2 inferno, getting 5 stacks of NV then going to kill her, pretty straithforward cause she is super easy boss to kill. ZK + belial runs are brutal, i mean the ZK part is easy but i don't want to get near belial never again. So yeah, any better spots?
I did about 50 act 2 goblin runs (ancient path) and had an absolutely awful success rate (like 3 goblins). i'm assuming they nerfed this, can anyone confirm?
On June 14 2012 15:19 sob3k wrote: I did about 50 act 2 goblin runs (ancient path) and had an absolutely awful success rate (like 3 goblins). i'm assuming they nerfed this, can anyone confirm?
Can't confirm since they don't have stated with a blue post that they have but it seems like they have nerfed all gob and chest farming spots.
has anyone else noticed there seems to be less champs on the azmo cya run now? used to be i could get 5 stacks in tower now it seems im lucky of i get 3. Just poor luck?
On June 14 2012 01:36 KOFgokuon wrote: You can't turn in the quest in multiple games like before, plus I believe the total exp was nerfed
Actually you still can.
Get 4 people, do Kulle. Everyone leaves except person who needs the xp.
He turns it in and goes to Adria. Goes to person 1, does soulstone, person 1 leaves. talks to adria. person1 resumes, joins person 1 game again, talks to adria again. repeat with person 2 and 3.
On June 13 2012 03:20 garett wrote: okay I've been doing act2 inferno goblin farming for 3 days now, and I got shit :/ did they nerf that or am I just having really bad luck? like, 300dps weapons and shit. the gold is also crap.
its garbage. i dont understand why people do it over and over for the minute chance that you may get a good weapon. if you go as far as possible you get decent drops on a regular basis (even from white enemies, breaking barrels, weak chests, etc.).
Pretty sure it was popularized for HC characters but because of the accessibility people do it in SC too.
On June 14 2012 15:19 sob3k wrote: I did about 50 act 2 goblin runs (ancient path) and had an absolutely awful success rate (like 3 goblins). i'm assuming they nerfed this, can anyone confirm?
I don't know about that spot but the gob on the road to alcarnus still spawns like it always did. The only visible nerf I've seen is the resplendent chest in the Underbridge which sucks because some ppl such as myself weren't only farming Underbridge for the chest, that was more like a bonus to the normal Siegebreaker run.
On June 14 2012 01:36 KOFgokuon wrote: You can't turn in the quest in multiple games like before, plus I believe the total exp was nerfed
Actually you still can.
Get 4 people, do Kulle. Everyone leaves except person who needs the xp.
He turns it in and goes to Adria. Goes to person 1, does soulstone, person 1 leaves. talks to adria. person1 resumes, joins person 1 game again, talks to adria again. repeat with person 2 and 3.
You just get absolute shit for XP now compared to what you used to get. Belial runs I guess are where it's at now. Same cascade concept though.
On June 14 2012 15:28 LagLovah wrote: has anyone else noticed there seems to be less champs on the azmo cya run now? used to be i could get 5 stacks in tower now it seems im lucky of i get 3. Just poor luck?
On June 14 2012 15:19 sob3k wrote: I did about 50 act 2 goblin runs (ancient path) and had an absolutely awful success rate (like 3 goblins). i'm assuming they nerfed this, can anyone confirm?
I don't know about that spot but the gob on the road to alcarnus still spawns like it always did. The only visible nerf I've seen is the resplendent chest in the Underbridge which sucks because some ppl such as myself weren't only farming Underbridge for the chest, that was more like a bonus to the normal Siegebreaker run.
I've been farming the A2 goblins, they're still around. You want to go up to a point where you can see the entire path (before entering desolate sands). Sometimes the goblin spawns right at the checkpoint.
On June 15 2012 03:35 Spikeke wrote: Been farming Ghom in Act 3 inferno. Stupidly easy fight. I hate act 2 and I hate Belial. I don't farm here much...
On June 15 2012 03:35 Spikeke wrote: Been farming Ghom in Act 3 inferno. Stupidly easy fight. I hate act 2 and I hate Belial. I don't farm here much...
wheres ghom??
Boss you find in the larder. The one with too many mouths and spews poison clouds.
just found 6 attribute boots and pants recipie on siege, crafted a couple things and found that they were decent... is it worth it to craft and sell or is cost/benefit off?
in theory it is worth it, but depending on your luck you can rack up huge costs before you craft a pair worth selling for 1m+
Some people have made money on that easily, while others say it isn't worth it. Regarding boots I'd tend towards not worth it, simply because if you roll no movement speed you will have a very hard time selling them. But try your luck a few times and see what it gets you.
On June 15 2012 08:55 Tula wrote: in theory it is worth it, but depending on your luck you can rack up huge costs before you craft a pair worth selling for 1m+
Some people have made money on that easily, while others say it isn't worth it. Regarding boots I'd tend towards not worth it, simply because if you roll no movement speed you will have a very hard time selling them. But try your luck a few times and see what it gets you.
No it's easy money, I paid 10m for a gloves one and have made back at least three times the amount in one week... also sold one pair of gloves for $155 on the RMAH. It's EASY money, I've never lost money even over the course of 25 crafts (each craft is less than 200k)
On June 15 2012 08:55 Tula wrote: in theory it is worth it, but depending on your luck you can rack up huge costs before you craft a pair worth selling for 1m+
Some people have made money on that easily, while others say it isn't worth it. Regarding boots I'd tend towards not worth it, simply because if you roll no movement speed you will have a very hard time selling them. But try your luck a few times and see what it gets you.
No it's easy money, I paid 10m for a gloves one and have made back at least three times the amount in one week... also sold one pair of gloves for $155 on the RMAH. It's EASY money, I've never lost money even over the course of 25 crafts (each craft is less than 200k)
In that case I am either astounded at your luck, or surprised what people are willing to pay in the US servers
I've had quite a few good gloves which i couldn't sell for more than 100k because they rolled a stupid stat combination or no attack speed. Still i'll add you to the "it's easy money" category
So for the guys who farm whimsishyre, how did you get the staff of herding? If you did not make it, how much does it cost to buy? do you need to have it in your inventory every time you start a game for the level to spawn?
Like, I see people selling spots in whimsishyre for 100k, if I were to buy a spot, would I be able to create whimsishyre runs myself?
On June 15 2012 09:51 Patrio wrote: So for the guys who farm whimsishyre, how did you get the staff of herding? If you did not make it, how much does it cost to buy? do you need to have it in your inventory every time you start a game for the level to spawn?
Like, I see people selling spots in whimsishyre for 100k, if I were to buy a spot, would I be able to create whimsishyre runs myself?
i dont think you can buy the staff. i think you have to make it yourself.
On June 15 2012 09:51 Patrio wrote: So for the guys who farm whimsishyre, how did you get the staff of herding? If you did not make it, how much does it cost to buy? do you need to have it in your inventory every time you start a game for the level to spawn?
Like, I see people selling spots in whimsishyre for 100k, if I were to buy a spot, would I be able to create whimsishyre runs myself?
Staff of herding components are soulbound so no you cannot buy it. You need to make it, which costs 1.6m in total to begin with (I think, definitly 500k for hell and 1m for inferno, can't remember nightmare). You can buy a spot, but you still need the staff to create your own, so no to that.
Basically if you want to farm it, you need at least 1 friend who keeps making it for you, or to bite the bullet and make the staff yourselve.
crafting is definately worth it, id say it depends alot on the item though. Gloves are super profitable, as are shoulders. I have had bad luck on selling helms though. I think it has to do with needing to roll sockets but I cant say for certain. Even buying out materials ive spent 4-5 mil at a time crafting and usually can make that back in a couple hours anthitng elae that sells is pure profit. I did make a batch of 30 gloves and only break.even the other day but thats pretty rare
On June 15 2012 11:18 LagLovah wrote: crafting is definately worth it, id say it depends alot on the item though. Gloves are super profitable, as are shoulders. I have had bad luck on selling helms though. I think it has to do with needing to roll sockets but I cant say for certain. Even buying out materials ive spent 4-5 mil at a time crafting and usually can make that back in a couple hours anthitng elae that sells is pure profit. I did make a batch of 30 gloves and only break.even the other day but thats pretty rare
I spent about 4 mil ragecrafting boots the other day.. I always end up with shitty health globe/pick up radius bonuses
On June 15 2012 11:18 LagLovah wrote: crafting is definately worth it, id say it depends alot on the item though. Gloves are super profitable, as are shoulders. I have had bad luck on selling helms though. I think it has to do with needing to roll sockets but I cant say for certain. Even buying out materials ive spent 4-5 mil at a time crafting and usually can make that back in a couple hours anthitng elae that sells is pure profit. I did make a batch of 30 gloves and only break.even the other day but thats pretty rare
I spent about 4 mil ragecrafting boots the other day.. I always end up with shitty health globe/pick up radius bonuses
Helms and gloves are the best to craft because they can spawn the best properties. I think boots rank quite poorly (only good properties are stats/allres/movespeed).
I made a few million from crafting helms. Half of them will sell for <30k (or salvaged lol), but the ones which sell for 1mil++ make up for any losses.
On June 15 2012 11:18 LagLovah wrote: crafting is definately worth it, id say it depends alot on the item though. Gloves are super profitable, as are shoulders. I have had bad luck on selling helms though. I think it has to do with needing to roll sockets but I cant say for certain. Even buying out materials ive spent 4-5 mil at a time crafting and usually can make that back in a couple hours anthitng elae that sells is pure profit. I did make a batch of 30 gloves and only break.even the other day but thats pretty rare
I spent about 4 mil ragecrafting boots the other day.. I always end up with shitty health globe/pick up radius bonuses
Helms and gloves are the best to craft because they can spawn the best properties. I think boots rank quite poorly (only good properties are stats/allres/movespeed).
I made a few million from crafting helms. Half of them will sell for <30k (or salvaged lol), but the ones which sell for 1mil++ make up for any losses.
I was thinking of crafting helms, but don't a lot of people use legendary helms like andys or mempo?
On June 15 2012 09:51 Patrio wrote: So for the guys who farm whimsishyre, how did you get the staff of herding? If you did not make it, how much does it cost to buy? do you need to have it in your inventory every time you start a game for the level to spawn?
Like, I see people selling spots in whimsishyre for 100k, if I were to buy a spot, would I be able to create whimsishyre runs myself?
Staff of herding components are soulbound so no you cannot buy it. You need to make it, which costs 1.6m in total to begin with (I think, definitly 500k for hell and 1m for inferno, can't remember nightmare). You can buy a spot, but you still need the staff to create your own, so no to that.
Basically if you want to farm it, you need at least 1 friend who keeps making it for you, or to bite the bullet and make the staff yourselve.
Nightmare Staff upgrade is 200k.
So, in total, it would be: Wirt's Bell: 100k Staff of Herding Smith cost (Normal): 50k Nightmare Plans: 1 Nightmare Staff: 200k Hell Plans: 1 Hellish Staff: 500k Inferno Plans: 1 Inferno Staff: 1 mil Total: 1.85 million (and 3 extra gold)
It's the gold cost that is the real issue, imho. I farmed the staff while I went through Nightmare and got all the parts together in a single day. You can farm for the initial ingredients on any difficulty. But I haven't even used the staff yet because I haven't invested in upgrading it to the point where it's useful, and I'm not sure that's the best use of my money at this point. I suppose you'd make the investment back selling Inferno Whimsey runs for 100k pretty fast.
Thanks everyone for your help. I got my staff for inferno now, but my gear is not good enough to solo whimsishyre just yet. If anyone want to farm whimsishyre with me (needs to have good gear and mf) then send me a pm or add Patrio#2591 (EU)
On June 16 2012 08:55 Patrio wrote: Thanks everyone for your help. I got my staff for inferno now, but my gear is not good enough to solo whimsishyre just yet. If anyone want to farm whimsishyre with me (needs to have good gear and mf) then send me a pm or add Patrio#2591 (EU)
On June 16 2012 08:55 Patrio wrote: Thanks everyone for your help. I got my staff for inferno now, but my gear is not good enough to solo whimsishyre just yet. If anyone want to farm whimsishyre with me (needs to have good gear and mf) then send me a pm or add Patrio#2591 (EU)
On June 16 2012 08:55 Patrio wrote: Thanks everyone for your help. I got my staff for inferno now, but my gear is not good enough to solo whimsishyre just yet. If anyone want to farm whimsishyre with me (needs to have good gear and mf) then send me a pm or add Patrio#2591 (EU)
I never liked siegebreaker, as a melee he's not easy and theres a lot of problematic elites and tyrael isn't good any more. If you can, I'd say spider/azmodan is far suprerior and otherwise kulle/belial 5 stacks are easy for melees too. (when patch comes just farming elites with 5 stacks will be better, but 2 x 2 rares is better than shitty siegebreaker)
On June 17 2012 09:29 BlackMagister wrote: Well it does if you get 3-4 rares instead.
Let me rephrase:
5NV will get you 2 rares.
At least 2 rares. Doesn't mean you can't get more. But mf gear doesn't affect purples any more so I read, all bosses happen to be purple, and aspects (who were targetted at the nerf I think). We had a thread about it and it was "confirmed", I think.
Didn't know where else to ask this. Does anyone by chance have a list of the names of ilvl 63 item types? Im doing a really poor job of remembering which is which lol
On June 17 2012 09:48 Leyra wrote: Didn't know where else to ask this. Does anyone by chance have a list of the names of ilvl 63 item types? Im doing a really poor job of remembering which is which lol
On June 17 2012 09:48 Leyra wrote: Didn't know where else to ask this. Does anyone by chance have a list of the names of ilvl 63 item types? Im doing a really poor job of remembering which is which lol
Any suggestions on good spots for Wizard working on gear and can kill Ghom/Kulle? Tried Act 1 cellar but getting nothing decent for gear with 200+ MF so made maybe 100k in 2-3 hours.
On June 17 2012 12:07 iLLusive wrote: Ok guess I will look to buy a kill to Azmo so I have the quest to do kills by myself, but what is dank cellar? Thanks for the advice!
They are doing nightmare azmo, I don't think youll need to buy a kill.
Stack GF and clear all the way down to azmo, rinse and repeat.
Cellar is just a little cellar at beginning of game, spawns a purple mob in there really easy to kill
Oh ok so NM amzo can drop 1100 dps weapons and Inferno type gear? Trying to make some gold to buy better gear or get it in form of drops again thanks for the information it really is helpful.
On June 17 2012 12:14 iLLusive wrote: Oh ok so NM amzo can drop 1100 dps weapons and Inferno type gear? Trying to make some gold to buy better gear or get it in form of drops again thanks for the information it really is helpful.
No dude. You missed it again. He's saying people are stacking Golf Find gear and clearing Act 3 NM until Azmo and then leaving the game. This isn't a method to get drops. There are lots of monsters that are easy to kill and drop gold. Then you will use the gold to buy stuff on Auction house. You won't get an 1100 DPS from anything in nightmare obviously.
So I've just finished Act 1 inferno on my WD. My gear isn't anywhere near good enough to take on Act 2 so I need to farm Act 1 a bit. I currently have like 17k hp and 21k dps. I sometimes swap a few pieces of gear to get 21k hp and 18k dps if needed (butcher doesn't 1 hit me with chains when I have more than 20k hp). What stat should I be building up on for farming purposes (besides magic find of course)?
Should I be farming warden/butcher or an earlier boss like skeleton king? I can easily kill warden after eliminating the elites near him but butcher is still a pain. I'm beginning to think the repair costs of dying to butcher so often isn't worth it. I'm off to work in a bit, but I'll try some SK runs later on to see if I can get any good drops to help with butcher runs later on...
On June 17 2012 20:05 o3.power91 wrote: So I've just finished Act 1 inferno on my WD. My gear isn't anywhere near good enough to take on Act 2 so I need to farm Act 1 a bit. I currently have like 17k hp and 21k dps. I sometimes swap a few pieces of gear to get 21k hp and 18k dps if needed (butcher doesn't 1 hit me with chains when I have more than 20k hp). What stat should I be building up on for farming purposes (besides magic find of course)?
Should I be farming warden/butcher or an earlier boss like skeleton king? I can easily kill warden after eliminating the elites near him but butcher is still a pain. I'm beginning to think the repair costs of dying to butcher so often isn't worth it. I'm off to work in a bit, but I'll try some SK runs later on to see if I can get any good drops to help with butcher runs later on...
The jump from Act 1, to act 2 is pretty brutal, especially in terms of gear. Butcher runs will help quite a bit, but to be honest I'd suggest waiting until the new patch that allows act1 to drop ilvl63's.
On June 17 2012 20:05 o3.power91 wrote: So I've just finished Act 1 inferno on my WD. My gear isn't anywhere near good enough to take on Act 2 so I need to farm Act 1 a bit. I currently have like 17k hp and 21k dps. I sometimes swap a few pieces of gear to get 21k hp and 18k dps if needed (butcher doesn't 1 hit me with chains when I have more than 20k hp). What stat should I be building up on for farming purposes (besides magic find of course)?
Should I be farming warden/butcher or an earlier boss like skeleton king? I can easily kill warden after eliminating the elites near him but butcher is still a pain. I'm beginning to think the repair costs of dying to butcher so often isn't worth it. I'm off to work in a bit, but I'll try some SK runs later on to see if I can get any good drops to help with butcher runs later on...
The jump from Act 1, to act 2 is pretty brutal, especially in terms of gear. Butcher runs will help quite a bit, but to be honest I'd suggest waiting until the new patch that allows act1 to drop ilvl63's.
lol that's true, but I'm also worried about the increase in repair costs. I'm relatively poor as it is, and I don't want to spend 20-30k on repairs for getting too careless or unlucky against bosses.
I just did a SK run and wasn't impressed at all with the loot. I think I'll go with warden only runs for a while until I'm good enough to confidently take on butcher or find a more efficient way to balance my build between general progression and the butcher fight.
The only problem I get while doing azmodan runs are phasebeasts with shielding or extra health. Anything else is trivial and I tend to only die to those spear dudes cause I can't see them properly when I'm going around the circle path while getting to cydea. (Using DH)
On June 18 2012 08:30 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: so what are you guys doing atm.
siegebreaker or pony?
end of act3 is way more annoying for same loot,
Azmodan ain't annoying.
but phasebeasts and lickers are
There are no lickers in a Cydaea/Azmodan run.
There is only one short area where Phasebeasts appear, and white phasebeasts are not a threat, leaving a small likelihood of facing something you can't handle (and we're assuming you can't move/kill the blue phasebeasts anyway, which I admit is a pretty fair assumption).
So did the item buff already go through for act 1 inferno? I found 4 210+ dps 1 handed weapons on a butcher run. 2 of them were 240 base DPS items (all rares). I must have been very lucky if not.
No the item buff hasn't gone through. Rune swords, Demolishers, Arch Axes, Hellion Crossbows, etc can't drop off butcher. You're still getting ilvl 61 crap.
i always farm up 3 full stashes of rare unidentified items and ID them at once. couple days ago i had a bunch of ilvl63 items in every stash. since like friday i'm only getting 1-3 ilvl63 at max. the rest is just ilvl62 crap. i know it may be bad luck but i've seen a couple of threads where ppl. noticed the same.
So getting rolled by any elite in Act 2. My choices were to farm Act 1 over and over, wait for patch 1.03 or try to run to Road of Alcanus and farm goblins. I did manage to make it there and can farm goblins. Just wondering if it's worth it to farm goblins with only 160ish MF.
On June 18 2012 16:22 toemn wrote: i think they stealth nerfed azmodan.
i always farm up 3 full stashes of rare unidentified items and ID them at once. couple days ago i had a bunch of ilvl63 items in every stash. since like friday i'm only getting 1-3 ilvl63 at max. the rest is just ilvl62 crap. i know it may be bad luck but i've seen a couple of threads where ppl. noticed the same.
Just random variance. Did 5 or so runs yesterday, got only 5-6 ilvl 63 items, did 3 runs today, got probably 10-12.
On June 19 2012 03:12 BlackMagister wrote: So getting rolled by any elite in Act 2. My choices were to farm Act 1 over and over, wait for patch 1.03 or try to run to Road of Alcanus and farm goblins. I did manage to make it there and can farm goblins. Just wondering if it's worth it to farm goblins with only 160ish MF.
On June 19 2012 03:12 BlackMagister wrote: So getting rolled by any elite in Act 2. My choices were to farm Act 1 over and over, wait for patch 1.03 or try to run to Road of Alcanus and farm goblins. I did manage to make it there and can farm goblins. Just wondering if it's worth it to farm goblins with only 160ish MF.
I think u need at least+200
Just means you have a slightly lower amount of rares dropping. Better with more MF, but still probably better than Butcher runs.
On June 18 2012 16:22 toemn wrote: i think they stealth nerfed azmodan.
i always farm up 3 full stashes of rare unidentified items and ID them at once. couple days ago i had a bunch of ilvl63 items in every stash. since like friday i'm only getting 1-3 ilvl63 at max. the rest is just ilvl62 crap. i know it may be bad luck but i've seen a couple of threads where ppl. noticed the same.
On June 18 2012 16:22 toemn wrote: i think they stealth nerfed azmodan.
i always farm up 3 full stashes of rare unidentified items and ID them at once. couple days ago i had a bunch of ilvl63 items in every stash. since like friday i'm only getting 1-3 ilvl63 at max. the rest is just ilvl62 crap. i know it may be bad luck but i've seen a couple of threads where ppl. noticed the same.
Nice observational bias and tiny sample size.
<<6 hellion xbows in <5 hrs of farming
I can add another anecdote, for some inexplicable reason i had 27 1h crossbows drop in the last 2 days, while i haven't seen a single wizard useable weapon (counting only rares here, certainly had some salvage blues) :D Random drop chances sometimes suck
On June 20 2012 03:39 Mysticesper wrote: I did a butcher run and got 1 rare on every single champ mob (killed like 7).
still just anecdotal evidence. Repair bills more or less make me want to do lame butcher runs again though =\
Kulle is what I would prefer, but retarded mob affixes are saying no.
Same experience I've had. Even after the Act 2 nerf, I'm still not geared well enough to deal with the damn elite spiders in the cave on the Kulle quest. And the repair costs are too high to keep trying. IAS nerf hurt me a little DPS-wise-but I figured, having bought some new gear last night, that I'd be able to get through the Kulle quests. Back to the Butcher.
So with new NV mechanic, best drops in act 1 and repair expenses what's the best thing to do now? I'm thinking straith up running act 1 over and over, easy, painless and still get best loot
On June 20 2012 03:35 Leyra wrote: So... spider queen is kind of obnoxious now... holy shitfuck the spiders are annoying.
Truth. Keep getting one shotted by the spiders spawning under me and instantly attacking.
Honestly considering just doing Butcher runs -- almost never die, usually takes me about 15 minutes, and I average a decent amount of rares. Tried 2 5-stack NV Cydea runs, even skipping her and just killing elites I was getting really subpar loot as compared to before :/
Still think act 2 goblin has the greatest reward for the effort. Minimal enemies and unlike chest farming, mf should still work fine on goblins. 30 second runs or so with double the chance for ilvl63 compared to act 1.
Running act 1 or even butcher/warden is more entertaining for sure but there is a tradeoff.
Playing through act 3 seems like a good plan if you can clear it. The tongue guys appear to have gotten overnerfed so it is far easier to get through the game.
Much higher gear requirement than act 2 goblin farming though.
On June 20 2012 08:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Playing through act 3 seems like a good plan if you can clear it. The tongue guys appear to have gotten overnerfed so it is far easier to get through the game.
Much higher gear requirement than act 2 goblin farming though.
which goblins are you guys farming, I thought all the goblins got nerfed into the ground?!
On June 20 2012 08:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Playing through act 3 seems like a good plan if you can clear it. The tongue guys appear to have gotten overnerfed so it is far easier to get through the game.
Much higher gear requirement than act 2 goblin farming though.
which goblins are you guys farming, I thought all the goblins got nerfed into the ground?!
the one in road to alcarus WP, i think that's what htey're are refering to
On June 20 2012 08:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Playing through act 3 seems like a good plan if you can clear it. The tongue guys appear to have gotten overnerfed so it is far easier to get through the game.
Much higher gear requirement than act 2 goblin farming though.
which goblins are you guys farming, I thought all the goblins got nerfed into the ground?!
The 8th quest, forget the name. I think it did get nerfed but it's much faster than the road to alcarnes goblin so even if the spawn rate isn't fantastic it still works out IMO.
Edit - Take the 2nd to last wp, forgot that name as well :p
I still don't like the changes too much for one reason, the repair cost just makes it stupid to farm anything but act 1 over and over. I had gear for act3 but I mean, there is no way I can't clear act1 4 times faster since the enemies just are that much weaker and counting in repair costs it is an easy choise. Also they cannot kill me, and also it will be so easy to get the 5 nv stacks and just keep on killing elite mobs in cryps, forest and then butcher part. Anything else should be totally suboptimal except maybe the act 2 goblin so I think continuing farming easy to find mobs in act 1 will be the shit for everyone.
So even with the NV change are you guys find that warden/butcher runs are still the best or is just starting before SK and playing through Act 1 better because you will keep the NV buff the whole time? Anyone tried both?
On June 20 2012 08:03 Charger wrote: Still think act 2 goblin has the greatest reward for the effort. Minimal enemies and unlike chest farming, mf should still work fine on goblins. 30 second runs or so with double the chance for ilvl63 compared to act 1.
Running act 1 or even butcher/warden is more entertaining for sure but there is a tradeoff.
On May 29 2012 05:54 Corvi wrote: act 2 is the real wall :D i wonder this myself. i farmed inferno butcher a few times, clearing 5 blue/yellow packs on the way to have those 5 stacks mf find, but even when i get a shitload of yellow stuff, its all lvl 56-59. how much can that help ...
a3 is just as much of a wall as a2... and a1 to ppl who arent able to farm it yet... the wall isnt only where u are at^^
On June 20 2012 08:03 Charger wrote: Still think act 2 goblin has the greatest reward for the effort. Minimal enemies and unlike chest farming, mf should still work fine on goblins. 30 second runs or so with double the chance for ilvl63 compared to act 1.
Running act 1 or even butcher/warden is more entertaining for sure but there is a tradeoff.
where is the goblin in act 2?
Take the Road to Alcarnus waypoint and it should be in this area.
I don't think I've ever seen it spawn on the far right, nor at the bottom left. There are also two chests that can spawn here, but they're not resplendent chests.
On June 20 2012 08:03 Charger wrote: Still think act 2 goblin has the greatest reward for the effort. Minimal enemies and unlike chest farming, mf should still work fine on goblins. 30 second runs or so with double the chance for ilvl63 compared to act 1.
Running act 1 or even butcher/warden is more entertaining for sure but there is a tradeoff.
where is the goblin in act 2?
Take the Road to Alcarnus waypoint and it should be in this area.
I don't think I've ever seen it spawn on the far right, nor at the bottom left. There are also two chests that can spawn here, but they're not resplendent chests.
thanks! will try that as an alternative to farming Warden until Butcher + Sarkoth.
On June 20 2012 08:03 Charger wrote: Still think act 2 goblin has the greatest reward for the effort. Minimal enemies and unlike chest farming, mf should still work fine on goblins. 30 second runs or so with double the chance for ilvl63 compared to act 1.
Running act 1 or even butcher/warden is more entertaining for sure but there is a tradeoff.
where is the goblin in act 2?
Take the Road to Alcarnus waypoint and it should be in this area.
I don't think I've ever seen it spawn on the far right, nor at the bottom left. There are also two chests that can spawn here, but they're not resplendent chests.
thanks! will try that as an alternative to farming Warden until Butcher + Sarkoth.
it spawns lower left as well, although not all the way to the corner walll. never seen it lower right though.
so, although whimsyshire chests (well, all chests) got nerfed, it's still a guaranteed 3-5 elite packs with a3/4 droprates, right? might be worth it to do act 1 runs including whimsyshire: start as if doing warden/butcher, get 5 stacks, clear whimsyshire, then do warden/butcher.
On June 21 2012 06:29 Leyra wrote: Anyone bothering with Cydaea/Azmo anymore?
I've been using purely kill azmodan quest and just clearing like im going to spider. After that I jump to keep dephts lvl 1/3/rakkis/etc. to elite hunt when azmo is dead
On June 21 2012 06:29 Leyra wrote: Anyone bothering with Cydaea/Azmo anymore?
I've been using purely kill azmodan quest and just clearing like im going to spider. After that I jump to keep dephts lvl 1/3/rakkis/etc. to elite hunt when azmo is dead
Hmm not a bad idea. Azmo is free loot, cydaea is retarded now, lol.
and attack animation is instant, so if you're in range, you're hit, whereas before you had time to get out of range, and finally, their AI causes them to clump a lot less, making AoE attacks not as effective.
On June 21 2012 10:54 Leyra wrote: and attack animation is instant, so if you're in range, you're hit, whereas before you had time to get out of range, and finally, their AI causes them to clump a lot less, making AoE attacks not as effective.
I rather like this change....so much for some bitch taunting you for half an hour straight and dying in 5 seconds.
Kind of curious where everyone starts out when farming act 1. I start at the Khaza barricade and explore the overworld parts for extra dungeons. The recent run I recorded how much gold I make selling the bad items and it's 135k gold and a little over an hour time. This was done with 40 GF and 86 MF, I have more MF gear but don't want to gib myself too much.
Whats Khaza barricade ? I do cemetery, around 50% there is a rare right at the wp. Then the 3 rares in the crypts. Then festering woods wp. There are 2 potential very short dungeons with also a rare and right at the wp sometimes also a rare. Then I go just halls of agony 1 and clear through the butcher. I round it up with pony cause its very easy for wizard and my act 1 spec.
Khaza barricade is the part right after the spider caves where you need to find the staff to get through gates that the Khaza/goatmen control. I don't have access to Inferno pony level, but surprised to hear character that are farming act 1 can do the pony level.
On June 24 2012 11:33 BlackMagister wrote: Khaza barricade is the part right after the spider caves where you need to find the staff to get through gates that the Khaza/goatmen control. I don't have access to Inferno pony level, but surprised to hear character that are farming act 1 can do the pony level.
Well I suppose the real question is why would someone use their act 1 inferno character to farm the pony level when they have a character that went all the way to diablo to get the inferno upgrade for the staff of herding or why would they farm any part of Act 1 besides the pony level. My original discussion was for those trying to prepare to clear act 2 so pony level is not really an option unless there is a way to get the plans with a friend's help or something.
On June 24 2012 11:33 BlackMagister wrote: Khaza barricade is the part right after the spider caves where you need to find the staff to get through gates that the Khaza/goatmen control. I don't have access to Inferno pony level, but surprised to hear character that are farming act 1 can do the pony level.
The mobs in the pony level are very easy to kite.
ponies are, fast bears and flowers are rape though
On June 24 2012 11:33 BlackMagister wrote: Khaza barricade is the part right after the spider caves where you need to find the staff to get through gates that the Khaza/goatmen control. I don't have access to Inferno pony level, but surprised to hear character that are farming act 1 can do the pony level.
The mobs in the pony level are very easy to kite.
ponies are, fast bears and flowers are rape though
The pony level monsters are significantly easier than the mobs in act 3/4 while dropping the same loot. They might have more health, but they have a lack of base abilities and crazy attacks. Plus, the architecture of the level makes it fairly easy to kite things.
On June 24 2012 13:11 BlackMagister wrote: Well I suppose the real question is why would someone use their act 1 inferno character to farm the pony level when they have a character that went all the way to diablo to get the inferno upgrade for the staff of herding or why would they farm any part of Act 1 besides the pony level. My original discussion was for those trying to prepare to clear act 2 so pony level is not really an option unless there is a way to get the plans with a friend's help or something.
Well it's fairly easy to "suicide" or body hop through the entire game to just kill the end bosses. Obviously this wouldn't be viable for farming, but it is possible to get to the end game without being geared for it.
Alternately, it is fairly easy to bypass any part of the game by creating a public game on Hell (say at Diablo). Leave the game and you can join a public game at inferno. Leave again so you can resume a solo game. I have played every part of the game in inferno and never even beaten the first part of Act 2. You farm act 1 because you want to get five stacks of NV before you start. A butcher run is perfect for this.
You could get somebody else to open it for you though if any of your friends have the inferno staff.
There is also the fact that act 2 is harder than act 3. I could easily clear five stack siegebreaker before I could survive five minutes in act 2. The mobs in act 2 are simply annoying are retarded. Act 3 is hard, but almost everything is dodgable by moving. In act 2 you get leaping mobs, dragonflies that shoot a thousand missiles, fast tiny things, invulnerable snakes, etc etc...
On June 24 2012 13:11 BlackMagister wrote: Well I suppose the real question is why would someone use their act 1 inferno character to farm the pony level when they have a character that went all the way to diablo to get the inferno upgrade for the staff of herding or why would they farm any part of Act 1 besides the pony level. My original discussion was for those trying to prepare to clear act 2 so pony level is not really an option unless there is a way to get the plans with a friend's help or something.
There is no point in farming anywhere after Act 1 at the moment, since the drop rates in A3/4 were nerfed. There was a Bashiok post somewhere about how they're going to fix it, but everyone's farming A1 these days.
I start by choosing Q9-2; - Check for watchtower in northern highlands, restart until I find it
Then in whatever order: - Cemetary of the Forsaken, kill 1-2 packs in each crypt -> The Weeping Hollow (area before the Cemetary), about 2-3 packs here+the chance of a dungeon - Cathedral level 3, check for a pack near the WP - Festering Woods, 2-3 Packs + one in each dungeon - Leorics Manor, go back outside, there's always a pack there, maybe even one inside
Then finish off by doing the warden/butcher run
takes me about 20-30minutes, that's what I got out of it in my last run, 0% MF
On June 25 2012 07:51 FliedLice wrote: Doing Act1 runs atm...
I start by choosing Q9-2; - Check for watchtower in northern highlands, restart until I find it
Then in whatever order: - Cemetary of the Forsaken, kill 1-2 packs in each crypt -> The Weeping Hollow (area before the Cemetary), about 2-3 packs here+the chance of a dungeon - Cathedral level 3, check for a pack near the WP - Festering Woods, 2-3 Packs + one in each dungeon - Leorics Manor, go back outside, there's always a pack there, maybe even one inside
Then finish off by doing the warden/butcher run
takes me about 20-30minutes, that's what I got out of it in my last run, 0% MF
Same run as me Got it from a d2jsp post haha before I was just running festering->halls->butcher
Why restart if no watchtower though? I never got that part.
Thanks for sharing that A1 run guys, I went through it and it worked out pretty well. Found some vit/int/AR pants worth ~450k so not a complete waste of time!
On June 25 2012 07:51 FliedLice wrote: Why restart if no watchtower though? I never got that part.
Yesterday I ran one without watchtower. I got really low elite spawn rate, couldnt find any dungeon and less than 5 elites in the entire halls of agony run.
On June 25 2012 07:51 FliedLice wrote: Why restart if no watchtower though? I never got that part.
Yesterday I ran one without watchtower. I got really low elite spawn rate, couldnt find any dungeon and less than 5 elites in the entire halls of agony run.
On June 20 2012 08:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Playing through act 3 seems like a good plan if you can clear it. The tongue guys appear to have gotten overnerfed so it is far easier to get through the game.
Much higher gear requirement than act 2 goblin farming though.
act 3 has been really bad for me after the patch, dono why. I start at Azmo and go backwards, and out of 20+ rares usually 50% will be iLvl 50-59 and the rest (60-62 usually, 63s are super rare now) will be absolute garbage. Really discouraging, pre patch I seemed to get a lot more stuff that could actually sell when farming A3..
On June 20 2012 08:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Playing through act 3 seems like a good plan if you can clear it. The tongue guys appear to have gotten overnerfed so it is far easier to get through the game.
Much higher gear requirement than act 2 goblin farming though.
act 3 has been really bad for me after the patch, dono why. I start at Azmo and go backwards, and out of 20+ rares usually 50% will be iLvl 50-59 and the rest (60-62 usually, 63s are super rare now) will be absolute garbage. Really discouraging, pre patch I seemed to get a lot more stuff that could actually sell when farming A3..
Bashiok said they felt act3 ilvl drop rates were too low and their "looking into it". It was pretty much ninja nerfed since patch 1.0.3
that explains how my friend who's been running Act1/2 has gotten an Andariels, a +Crit chance/+Crit damage/ +IAS amulet (30 mil) and lots of other 1 mil+ stuff post 1.0.3, while I have gotten absolutely nothing running Act 3, so yeah.. time to start mass pulling in act 1/2.
or he just farms more than you (or luckier). None of those items have a higher drop chance in act 1/2. Being lucky with stat rolls is a matter of commitment. Farm long enough and you will get something good.
On June 25 2012 13:36 -Exalt- wrote: Stealth nerfs are freaking annoying, T_T blizz
that explains how my friend who's been running Act1/2 has gotten an Andariels, a +Crit chance/+Crit damage/ +IAS amulet (30 mil) and lots of other 1 mil+ stuff post 1.0.3, while I have gotten absolutely nothing running Act 3, so yeah.. time to start mass pulling in act 1/2.
On June 25 2012 07:51 FliedLice wrote: Why restart if no watchtower though? I never got that part.
Yesterday I ran one without watchtower. I got really low elite spawn rate, couldnt find any dungeon and less than 5 elites in the entire halls of agony run.
Im gonna start doing watchtower checks too lol
Yesterday I had a watchtower with 5 elite packs AND a resplended chest... and had 4 treasure goblins combined in the cemetary crypts.. most insane run I ever had (too bad no spectacular drops from all of it)
On June 25 2012 13:36 -Exalt- wrote: Stealth nerfs are freaking annoying, T_T blizz
that explains how my friend who's been running Act1/2 has gotten an Andariels, a +Crit chance/+Crit damage/ +IAS amulet (30 mil) and lots of other 1 mil+ stuff post 1.0.3, while I have gotten absolutely nothing running Act 3, so yeah.. time to start mass pulling in act 1/2.
Well, it wasn't really a stealth nerf. More like a sneaky nerf since they did say ilevel63 drop rate for Act 3/4 would be 8%. Blizzard just never stated what the original percentage was. Obviously, it was higher then 8% so that is why people aren't getting as much ilevel63 stuff. Act 3 is still much better then Act2 and Act1 if you can kill at similiar speeds. Problem is act 3 is a lot harder and Act 1 elites are more 'stable' and easy to find. So you ilevel63 per hour is actually much closer than the 8% to 2% suggests (Act 2 is even worse because the maps are open and it really depends on your luck). Having said that, IF you outgear Act 3 by a lot, it is still more efficient to farm there. But if you have a hard time killing Act 3 mobs, Act2 (and most likely Act 1) is a lot less stressful and more efficient. Having said that, not sure if there needs to be a fix since people farmed Mephisto for the most optimal loot in Diablo 2 as well and he was not the hardest content.
On June 25 2012 18:01 vthree wrote: Having said that, not sure if there needs to be a fix since people farmed Mephisto for the most optimal loot in Diablo 2 as well and he was not the hardest content.
meph couldnt drop alot of really good things and people stopped doing him later on.
also ofc it needs a fix since if there is no reason to gear up and do real content cause faceroll act1 is best then there is something wrong.
Aren't all those half-assed runs pretty bad? I read people farming single elites and then creating a new game... I always try to get as many elites as possible to benefit from nephalem valor buff without going to dungeons which have barely any elites.
I always go this one:
1) Check Cathredral lvl 3 waypoint, if there is an elite nearby kill it. If not, go to 2). 2) Go to the Cemetry of the Forsaken waypoint, if there is an elite nearby go for it. If not, go to 3). 3) Festering woods, clear the two tombs and check for 2, possibly 3 more elites and a goblin. The goblin is there like 50% of the time or even more, although not always easy to find. 4) Go for the WP close to Southern highlands and clear all the way until the Butcher. But some tombs are better left out, like the Lyceum.
Thoughts? Playing a monk and mostly ignoring whitemobs unless there are tons of them. Although my luck isn't really good... i find decent amounts of ilvl62 or 63 items, but they always suck like lvl 52 items. And to be honest it isn't as fun as farming bosses in Diablo 2 where you could find Set items / Uniques which are useful (even if the chance was low). I sort of dislike the fact that Diablo 3 is patched around the AH, but i guess that one will not change as long as the AH is there. Either way, we need Deckard Cain back for identification, the whole cast time for identification sucks.
Do you guys also have 1 friend who plays 10 times less but allways ends up with 10 times better items? Been running act1 all evening yesterday, got 1 ilvl62, rest under , out of 2 full stashpages. My friend comes online and joins my party just before I do jailer again. We find a gobo, im on 5 stacks he's on none. We kill the gobo he gets a sick ilvl63 ring, we kill a bluepack after he gets sick ilvl63 gloves. I got... 4 rares ilvl55.... aaaaaaaaa
Glad my friend is just playing for fun, I get his leftovers
I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
Urgh, those are by far my least favourite levels. Those colossi looking fire-shooting enemies on those levels are just a huuuge pain to kill. I prefer Act3 or Act4 over them mostly... But it might depend on the class you play.
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
There is a "Vault of the Assassin" run and it goes like this:
1) Sewers of Caldeum : 1 Pack 2) Black Canyon Mines + Howling Plateau : 3-6 Packs 3) Road to Alcarnus : Goblin (?) + 1-2 Packs 4) Ancient Path : Goblin (?) 5) Vault of the Assassin : 7-12 Packs Takes about 30 minutes or less.
The first run you do you need to look for the VotA spawn. When you leave, make sure your checkpoint is that the start/end in the VotA. The next runs you do, you spawn in the VotA when you create game. TP and use waypoints to get to the elites/goblins in 1-4. Remember NOT to TP when in other areas or you will have to find the VotA again.
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
There is a "Vault of the Assassin" run and it goes like this:
1) Sewers of Caldeum : 1 Pack 2) Black Canyon Mines + Howling Plateau : 3-6 Packs 3) Road to Alcarnus : Goblin (?) + 1-2 Packs 4) Ancient Path : Goblin (?) 5) Vault of the Assassin : 7-12 Packs Takes about 30 minutes or less.
The first run you do you need to look for the VotA spawn. When you leave, make sure your checkpoint is that the start/end in the VotA. The next runs you do, you spawn in the VotA when you create game. TP and use waypoints to get to the elites/goblins in 1-4. Remember NOT to TP when in other areas or you will have to find the VotA again.
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
There is a "Vault of the Assassin" run and it goes like this:
1) Sewers of Caldeum : 1 Pack 2) Black Canyon Mines + Howling Plateau : 3-6 Packs 3) Road to Alcarnus : Goblin (?) + 1-2 Packs 4) Ancient Path : Goblin (?) 5) Vault of the Assassin : 7-12 Packs Takes about 30 minutes or less.
The first run you do you need to look for the VotA spawn. When you leave, make sure your checkpoint is that the start/end in the VotA. The next runs you do, you spawn in the VotA when you create game. TP and use waypoints to get to the elites/goblins in 1-4. Remember NOT to TP when in other areas or you will have to find the VotA again.
what quest do you start with?
The Black Soulstone (Soulstone Chamber)
In your last run you can kill kulle (and belial) if you feel like it but note that this will reset your checkpoint. So if you still want to continue doing this the next time you play and wish to keep the checkpoint, don't. Also it may not really be time efficient to kill belial (save the villagers quest -.-).
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
There is a "Vault of the Assassin" run and it goes like this:
1) Sewers of Caldeum : 1 Pack 2) Black Canyon Mines + Howling Plateau : 3-6 Packs 3) Road to Alcarnus : Goblin (?) + 1-2 Packs 4) Ancient Path : Goblin (?) 5) Vault of the Assassin : 7-12 Packs Takes about 30 minutes or less.
The first run you do you need to look for the VotA spawn. When you leave, make sure your checkpoint is that the start/end in the VotA. The next runs you do, you spawn in the VotA when you create game. TP and use waypoints to get to the elites/goblins in 1-4. Remember NOT to TP when in other areas or you will have to find the VotA again.
I'll have to look into that, but I can't do that in 30 mins. Heck it takes me 30 mins probably just to clear vault alone. I play a barb, but not great gear as I'm stuck on act 3 and can't progress after beating ghom. I can deal with the elites in act 2 thanks to earthquake and wotb, but it still takes time, cause I don't have high dps, only around 9k. I bought a 699 dps weapon for it's 824 loh and 3% life conversion for about 1300 loh total now, so it's slow and steady for me.
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
There is a "Vault of the Assassin" run and it goes like this:
1) Sewers of Caldeum : 1 Pack 2) Black Canyon Mines + Howling Plateau : 3-6 Packs 3) Road to Alcarnus : Goblin (?) + 1-2 Packs 4) Ancient Path : Goblin (?) 5) Vault of the Assassin : 7-12 Packs Takes about 30 minutes or less.
The first run you do you need to look for the VotA spawn. When you leave, make sure your checkpoint is that the start/end in the VotA. The next runs you do, you spawn in the VotA when you create game. TP and use waypoints to get to the elites/goblins in 1-4. Remember NOT to TP when in other areas or you will have to find the VotA again.
what quest do you start with?
The Black Soulstone (Soulstone Chamber)
In your last run you can kill kulle (and belial) if you feel like it but note that this will reset your checkpoint. So if you still want to continue doing this the next time you play and wish to keep the checkpoint, don't. Also it may not really be time efficient to kill belial (save the villagers quest -.-).
ah ok. yer. i kinda do that, but after the vault we do the archives
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
There is a "Vault of the Assassin" run and it goes like this:
1) Sewers of Caldeum : 1 Pack 2) Black Canyon Mines + Howling Plateau : 3-6 Packs 3) Road to Alcarnus : Goblin (?) + 1-2 Packs 4) Ancient Path : Goblin (?) 5) Vault of the Assassin : 7-12 Packs Takes about 30 minutes or less.
The first run you do you need to look for the VotA spawn. When you leave, make sure your checkpoint is that the start/end in the VotA. The next runs you do, you spawn in the VotA when you create game. TP and use waypoints to get to the elites/goblins in 1-4. Remember NOT to TP when in other areas or you will have to find the VotA again.
I'll have to look into that, but I can't do that in 30 mins. Heck it takes me 30 mins probably just to clear vault alone. I play a barb, but not great gear as I'm stuck on act 3 and can't progress after beating ghom. I can deal with the elites in act 2 thanks to earthquake and wotb, but it still takes time, cause I don't have high dps, only around 9k. I bought a 699 dps weapon for it's 824 loh and 3% life conversion for about 1300 loh total now, so it's slow and steady for me.
If you're geared enough you can just kill elites (run through all the trash mobs) and save a lot of time.
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
There is a "Vault of the Assassin" run and it goes like this:
1) Sewers of Caldeum : 1 Pack 2) Black Canyon Mines + Howling Plateau : 3-6 Packs 3) Road to Alcarnus : Goblin (?) + 1-2 Packs 4) Ancient Path : Goblin (?) 5) Vault of the Assassin : 7-12 Packs Takes about 30 minutes or less.
The first run you do you need to look for the VotA spawn. When you leave, make sure your checkpoint is that the start/end in the VotA. The next runs you do, you spawn in the VotA when you create game. TP and use waypoints to get to the elites/goblins in 1-4. Remember NOT to TP when in other areas or you will have to find the VotA again.
what quest do you start with?
The Black Soulstone (Soulstone Chamber)
In your last run you can kill kulle (and belial) if you feel like it but note that this will reset your checkpoint. So if you still want to continue doing this the next time you play and wish to keep the checkpoint, don't. Also it may not really be time efficient to kill belial (save the villagers quest -.-).
ah ok. yer. i kinda do that, but after the vault we do the archives
It makes sense to add the archives areas to the run too because they are near a waypoint, but I'm not sure about the elite "density" of the area. What is your experience with them?
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
There is a "Vault of the Assassin" run and it goes like this:
1) Sewers of Caldeum : 1 Pack 2) Black Canyon Mines + Howling Plateau : 3-6 Packs 3) Road to Alcarnus : Goblin (?) + 1-2 Packs 4) Ancient Path : Goblin (?) 5) Vault of the Assassin : 7-12 Packs Takes about 30 minutes or less.
The first run you do you need to look for the VotA spawn. When you leave, make sure your checkpoint is that the start/end in the VotA. The next runs you do, you spawn in the VotA when you create game. TP and use waypoints to get to the elites/goblins in 1-4. Remember NOT to TP when in other areas or you will have to find the VotA again.
I'll have to look into that, but I can't do that in 30 mins. Heck it takes me 30 mins probably just to clear vault alone. I play a barb, but not great gear as I'm stuck on act 3 and can't progress after beating ghom. I can deal with the elites in act 2 thanks to earthquake and wotb, but it still takes time, cause I don't have high dps, only around 9k. I bought a 699 dps weapon for it's 824 loh and 3% life conversion for about 1300 loh total now, so it's slow and steady for me.
If you're geared enough you can just kill elites (run through all the trash mobs) and save a lot of time.
Yeah gear is my prob. I do run through trash mobs. It's just the most expensive gear I have is my weapon for 1.85 mill. The rest is all <100k a piece. Therefore, while I can beat all the elites, I just can't do it quickly.
None of the farming I've done has given me a gear I can use myself. It's pretty frustrating getting junk after junk. I'm poor too. The highest money I've held is 2 mill, but then I blew it on my weapon cause I was getting frustrated and was going to quit, and wanted to see if more loh would help me survive act 3. It didn't, so I went back to farming act 2, got back up to 1 mill, but am still getting frustrated with the drops and thinking about quitting soon.
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
There is a "Vault of the Assassin" run and it goes like this:
1) Sewers of Caldeum : 1 Pack 2) Black Canyon Mines + Howling Plateau : 3-6 Packs 3) Road to Alcarnus : Goblin (?) + 1-2 Packs 4) Ancient Path : Goblin (?) 5) Vault of the Assassin : 7-12 Packs Takes about 30 minutes or less.
The first run you do you need to look for the VotA spawn. When you leave, make sure your checkpoint is that the start/end in the VotA. The next runs you do, you spawn in the VotA when you create game. TP and use waypoints to get to the elites/goblins in 1-4. Remember NOT to TP when in other areas or you will have to find the VotA again.
I'll have to look into that, but I can't do that in 30 mins. Heck it takes me 30 mins probably just to clear vault alone. I play a barb, but not great gear as I'm stuck on act 3 and can't progress after beating ghom. I can deal with the elites in act 2 thanks to earthquake and wotb, but it still takes time, cause I don't have high dps, only around 9k. I bought a 699 dps weapon for it's 824 loh and 3% life conversion for about 1300 loh total now, so it's slow and steady for me.
If you're geared enough you can just kill elites (run through all the trash mobs) and save a lot of time.
Yeah gear is my prob. I do run through trash mobs. It's just the most expensive gear I have is my weapon for 1.85 mill. The rest is all <100k a piece. Therefore, while I can beat all the elites, I just can't do it quickly.
None of the farming I've done has given me a gear I can use myself. It's pretty frustrating getting junk after junk. I'm poor too. The highest money I've held is 2 mill, but then I blew it on my weapon cause I was getting frustrated and was going to quit, and wanted to see if more loh would help me survive act 3. It didn't, so I went back to farming act 2 and am still getting frustrated with the drops and thinking about quitting soon.
I get crap most of the time too but recently I realised (doh should've realised long ago) to look out for gold find equipment. If you get a blue glittering ring 15%gf its a few 100k+ and 16% its even more etc. If you get gold find with pickup radius stuff they sell for quite a bit since the gf bots will buy them. Sometimes I get nothing, except 2 gf items from a run which make me about 500k++ or even millions :p This is good to look out for because even low level rares cans spawn these mods.
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
There is a "Vault of the Assassin" run and it goes like this:
1) Sewers of Caldeum : 1 Pack 2) Black Canyon Mines + Howling Plateau : 3-6 Packs 3) Road to Alcarnus : Goblin (?) + 1-2 Packs 4) Ancient Path : Goblin (?) 5) Vault of the Assassin : 7-12 Packs Takes about 30 minutes or less.
The first run you do you need to look for the VotA spawn. When you leave, make sure your checkpoint is that the start/end in the VotA. The next runs you do, you spawn in the VotA when you create game. TP and use waypoints to get to the elites/goblins in 1-4. Remember NOT to TP when in other areas or you will have to find the VotA again.
what quest do you start with?
The Black Soulstone (Soulstone Chamber)
In your last run you can kill kulle (and belial) if you feel like it but note that this will reset your checkpoint. So if you still want to continue doing this the next time you play and wish to keep the checkpoint, don't. Also it may not really be time efficient to kill belial (save the villagers quest -.-).
ah ok. yer. i kinda do that, but after the vault we do the archives
The archives are decent too, though I sometimes feel that they can slow down the elites/min rate of the farming run. You'll get 2-4 in each of the 3 sub dungeons, but there are some annoying types in there (flying bird, baneling that doesn't give NV when it explodes, little guys that bury underground, ghost with slow). Also, losing the checkpoint for VotA can suck as sometimes it'll take 5+ minutes of running around just to find it.
Meanwhile, between the black canyon mines and the road to alcarnus I often get my 5 NV stacks in 4-6 minutes, so restarting more frequently is not that much of a pain.
The archives are decent too, though I sometimes feel that they can slow down the elites/min rate of the farming run. You'll get 2-4 in each of the 3 sub dungeons, but there are some annoying types in there (flying bird, baneling that doesn't give NV when it explodes, little guys that bury underground, ghost with slow). Also, losing the checkpoint for VotA can suck as sometimes it'll take 5+ minutes of running around just to find it.
Meanwhile, between the black canyon mines and the road to alcarnus I often get my 5 NV stacks in 4-6 minutes, so restarting more frequently is not that much of a pain.
Besides the vault has also a nice chance to spawn a goblin, id say i get one once every 3 runs, ive even been lucky and got 2 goblins in it several times.
i discovered the spot by accident actually, doing a longer run i found like 10-12 elites and 2 goblins in the vault and since i ended it there i kept the wp. so next log in started it there and had a nother nice run... been farming it like 2 weeks now.
i actually do the following route:
vota path to alcanus + the area just out + the area where u free the prisoners just before magda (3-4 elites in this general area) ancient path + i go a bit further in to kill maybe a couple more elites.
i usually can do that in about 30-45 mins and kill around 12-15 elites, plus i usually get at least one goblin between the 3 goblin areas if not more.
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
There is a "Vault of the Assassin" run and it goes like this:
1) Sewers of Caldeum : 1 Pack 2) Black Canyon Mines + Howling Plateau : 3-6 Packs 3) Road to Alcarnus : Goblin (?) + 1-2 Packs 4) Ancient Path : Goblin (?) 5) Vault of the Assassin : 7-12 Packs Takes about 30 minutes or less.
The first run you do you need to look for the VotA spawn. When you leave, make sure your checkpoint is that the start/end in the VotA. The next runs you do, you spawn in the VotA when you create game. TP and use waypoints to get to the elites/goblins in 1-4. Remember NOT to TP when in other areas or you will have to find the VotA again.
what quest do you start with?
The Black Soulstone (Soulstone Chamber)
In your last run you can kill kulle (and belial) if you feel like it but note that this will reset your checkpoint. So if you still want to continue doing this the next time you play and wish to keep the checkpoint, don't. Also it may not really be time efficient to kill belial (save the villagers quest -.-).
ah ok. yer. i kinda do that, but after the vault we do the archives
The archives are decent too, though I sometimes feel that they can slow down the elites/min rate of the farming run. You'll get 2-4 in each of the 3 sub dungeons, but there are some annoying types in there (flying bird, baneling that doesn't give NV when it explodes, little guys that bury underground, ghost with slow). Also, losing the checkpoint for VotA can suck as sometimes it'll take 5+ minutes of running around just to find it.
Meanwhile, between the black canyon mines and the road to alcarnus I often get my 5 NV stacks in 4-6 minutes, so restarting more frequently is not that much of a pain.
Yea. I find the elites in the archives to be too annoying (those f'ing Baneling elites) and the spawn density to be lacking.
Black Canyon and Alcarnus are great. I also like to use the Oasis because its easy on my eyes.
If you are tired of Act I and you can hang with Act 2, I'd definitely advise some variation on VOA farming. I love clearing that place.
On July 04 2012 19:17 Canucklehead wrote: I've been unlucky with farming. I farmed act 1 inferno for a bit and got junk. I got lvl 63 drops at times, but they were shit blues or I get a weapon with decent stats and it's 200 dps or something low! I stopped farming act 1 cause the ranges on the rolls are too low that I never got anything good. I started farming act 2 now and still not getting anything great.
The place I've been farming is desert oasis from the soul stone checkpoint. A bunch of elites in the desert and then all the dungeons there have a lot of elites. Go to vault of the assassin's and I once got 8 elites in there. Then you can do the other dungeons there like caves of betrayal (I think) and another dungeon. A bunch of elites in those caves too, then you can go kill kulle and after that do another area if you want.
There is a "Vault of the Assassin" run and it goes like this:
1) Sewers of Caldeum : 1 Pack 2) Black Canyon Mines + Howling Plateau : 3-6 Packs 3) Road to Alcarnus : Goblin (?) + 1-2 Packs 4) Ancient Path : Goblin (?) 5) Vault of the Assassin : 7-12 Packs Takes about 30 minutes or less.
The first run you do you need to look for the VotA spawn. When you leave, make sure your checkpoint is that the start/end in the VotA. The next runs you do, you spawn in the VotA when you create game. TP and use waypoints to get to the elites/goblins in 1-4. Remember NOT to TP when in other areas or you will have to find the VotA again.
what quest do you start with?
The Black Soulstone (Soulstone Chamber)
In your last run you can kill kulle (and belial) if you feel like it but note that this will reset your checkpoint. So if you still want to continue doing this the next time you play and wish to keep the checkpoint, don't. Also it may not really be time efficient to kill belial (save the villagers quest -.-).
ah ok. yer. i kinda do that, but after the vault we do the archives
The archives are decent too, though I sometimes feel that they can slow down the elites/min rate of the farming run. You'll get 2-4 in each of the 3 sub dungeons, but there are some annoying types in there (flying bird, baneling that doesn't give NV when it explodes, little guys that bury underground, ghost with slow). Also, losing the checkpoint for VotA can suck as sometimes it'll take 5+ minutes of running around just to find it.
Meanwhile, between the black canyon mines and the road to alcarnus I often get my 5 NV stacks in 4-6 minutes, so restarting more frequently is not that much of a pain.
If you are tired of Act I and you can hang with Act 2, I'd definitely advise some variation on VOA farming. I love clearing that place.
same. they reallly add such areas to each act. a high elite density area that is fun to clear if you really can handle the act.
I tested a VotA run yesterday and it worked really well. Act 1 really drops nothing and Act 3 is too hard for me so this was perfect I don't know if anyone else knows about it, but there is a spot in VotA where ANY elite will get stuck, so if you're ranged you can just take them off from a distance. There are a few spots like that in the shadow dungeons as well. I guess that's why people do this run
On July 10 2012 22:33 scDeluX wrote: My act 3 run is
Keep Depth 1-2-3 Bridge of corsikk (cavern of ice) Arreat core
When ppl wanna keep going
1 in stonefort 1 in skycrow battlement Clear both "tower" levels
Why not Cydaea/Azmo? IMO one of the biggest draws of A3 over A2 is the back-to-back loot pinatas that are Cydaea and Azmodan. Plus the area leading up to Cydaea a lot of the times you can get free elite kills if they spawn in certain locations.
Also are there any wizards running A2? To me it seems the most efficient farming method is being geared enough to run past trash and just kill elites, but I'm not sure if that's possible as a wizard. If so what build are you using?
On July 10 2012 22:33 scDeluX wrote: My act 3 run is
Keep Depth 1-2-3 Bridge of corsikk (cavern of ice) Arreat core
When ppl wanna keep going
1 in stonefort 1 in skycrow battlement Clear both "tower" levels
Why not Cydaea/Azmo? IMO one of the biggest draws of A3 over A2 is the back-to-back loot pinatas that are Cydaea and Azmodan. Plus the area leading up to Cydaea a lot of the times you can get free elite kills if they spawn in certain locations.
Also are there any wizards running A2? To me it seems the most efficient farming method is being geared enough to run past trash and just kill elites, but I'm not sure if that's possible as a wizard. If so what build are you using?
Probably because he's ranged and spider pisses him off.
There's a video of a melee wiz doing act 3 in under an hour (he runs past trash)
Seriously it seems that bosses don't even worth it. They take 2-3 times longer to kill than and average elite pack and they give the same loot (1 guaranteed rare).
I don't know maybe I'm missing out and their loot table is better than elite but from what I seen I don't get better loot from Azmo than any elite packs. Has Blizzard ever publicized that bosses get better % drop chance or something along those lines?
On July 11 2012 01:45 scDeluX wrote: Seriously it seems that bosses don't even worth it. They take 2-3 times longer to kill than and average elite pack and they give the same loot (1 guaranteed rare).
I don't know maybe I'm missing out and their loot table is better than elite but from what I seen I don't get better loot from Azmo than any elite packs. Has Blizzard ever publicized that bosses get better % drop chance or something along those lines?
i dunno about you but bosses are much easier to read and have patterns. you can't really die versus azmodan/cydae and if you are, you probably should be farming act1/2. Whereas even with amazing gear, theres still an offchance of dying to elite mobs b/c of shitty arenas (walls, etc), shitty affixes, and their random movement.
On July 11 2012 01:45 scDeluX wrote: Seriously it seems that bosses don't even worth it. They take 2-3 times longer to kill than and average elite pack and they give the same loot (1 guaranteed rare).
I don't know maybe I'm missing out and their loot table is better than elite but from what I seen I don't get better loot from Azmo than any elite packs. Has Blizzard ever publicized that bosses get better % drop chance or something along those lines?
i dunno about you but bosses are much easier to read and have patterns. you can't really die versus azmodan/cydae and if you are, you probably should be farming act1/2. Whereas even with amazing gear, theres still an offchance of dying to elite mobs b/c of shitty arenas (walls, etc), shitty affixes, and their random movement.
Yeah and with Cydaea and Azmodan if you have enough DPS you can kill them in phase 1 of the encounter which takes like what, 20 seconds? And then remember they have the highest ilv63 drop rates and they drop roughly the same loot as 2 elites (I've had them drop 6 rares before). They literally are loot pinatas once you are actually geared enough to do act 3 smoothly. If you are actually having issues with Cydaea and Azmo I agree you probably will be more efficient running A1 or 2.
Anyone (monks specifically) know at what level of stats it is possible to comfortably farm the pony level? Atm I can comfortably farm Act 2 in dps build/gear, A3 is quite a bit riskier (even some white mobs). Seems like pony runs aren't talked about too much, wondering if they ate worth paying the admission fee.
On July 11 2012 03:03 Burrfoot wrote: Anyone (monks specifically) know at what level of stats it is possible to comfortably farm the pony level? Atm I can comfortably farm Act 2 in dps build/gear, A3 is quite a bit riskier (even some white mobs). Seems like pony runs aren't talked about too much, wondering if they ate worth paying the admission fee.
i can't do it in dps gear comfortably. probably could do it if i switched to dodge mantra + hard target and equiped a shield, but that's just boring.
dps stats currently without any buff or follower: 34k hp 23k dps 700 res all 37 dodge 5200 armor 1700 life on hit
I know this has been covered but I found a pretty good concise article on farming Act 1. Excerpt:
Since 1.03 hit, this is one of the most popular Act 1 runs. People immediately began to start farming elites and this is by far the most efficient and lucrative run. With the change in 1.03 so that elite packs now guarantee a rare (w/five stacks), wasting five stacks of Nephalem Valor and repeating the run is simply not as efficient as pre-1.03. The video below highlights several areas that guarantee elites and have the highest elite density in Act 1. Act 1 is especially great, because there are relatively small areas with concentrated numbers of elites. These runs still normally culminate in the killing of the Warden and Butcher. The areas covered are:
The Watchtower (1-5 elites) The Festering Woods (2-4 elites) Leoric’s Manor (and courtyard) (1-2 elites) Cemetery of the Forsaken (and the Defiled Crypts) (3-4 elites, sidequest) Halls of Agony (lvl 2, 3) (2-6 elites) Cursed Hold (1-5 elites, Warden) Highlands Passage Chamber of Suffering (Butcher)
I once had a watchtower with I shit you not, 7 elites, a goblin, and a res chest. But lately they have all been 1 or 2 elites makes me wonder if they changed something.
Yeah, I had Watchtower 2 days ago with 7 Elites/Champs :D. Average there for me is about 3 though.
I'm farming Act 1 atm with my monk/barb (alternating between them since I'll play, say, the monk and think "this one is much more fun than the barb", then I'll play the barb and think "this is much more fun than the monk" :p). Basically the same places posted a few posts up, in order I go:
Cathedral Level 3 (port there and kill the rare next to/near the portal). Festering Woods (2 outside, 1 in each building, 50%ish chance of event, 33%ish chance of goblin). Probably 5 stacked now, so events that drop rares when stacked will now be done if I find them (originally I started with cemetery but I had to keep leaving to 5 stack for the event) and I'll go and kill any goblins that I find from now (assuming the damn Enchantress didn't aggro them :p). Check for goblin/pack in Old Ruins. Cemetery of the Forsaken (average 5 pack and an event, or 6 pack + no event) Check for Watchtower (port to Northern Highlands, run west and check midway up the edge, about a 50% chance of finding it and normally find a pack on the way, if not 2, average 3 packs, occasional res chest). Place where you get Khazra Staff, can't remember name :p (Moon Clan cave average 3 packs and res chest, check slightly east of the middle, either pack in the arena thing, a dungeon with average 2 packs, or a useless event that can be skipped, normally find 2 packs while running round to these places). Leorics Manor, and outside (average 1.5 packs). Halls of Agony 1+2 (average 4 packs). Cursed Hold, I'd mention the rare pack from the event before it but I haven't had it in the 20 so of these Inferno runs that I've done :s (average 2 packs, plus boss). Halls of Agony level 3 (average 2 packs). Butcher.
Normally get an average of about 4 goblins total each run (including the ones mentioned, just mentioned those as they're the most common places I find them) along with about 30 packs/events, 2 bosses and about 1.5 res chests.
I know this probably isn't the most efficient, but for me it's about the right length that I don't feel like I've just done an area when I go back to it on the next run, which helps a lot, for me, if doing a few runs in a row
On July 11 2012 04:21 shrinkmaster wrote: i can't do it in dps gear comfortably. probably could do it if i switched to dodge mantra + hard target and equiped a shield, but that's just boring.
dps stats currently without any buff or follower: 34k hp 23k dps 700 res all 37 dodge 5200 armor 1700 life on hit
I decided to waste the gold and upgrade my staff to give it a try... Wasn't too had. Ponies hit like a truck, but my sword n board hybrid ias/loh/crit/cyclone build cleared it without issue. 25k dps, 500 res, 6k armor or so. But still much less rewarding than Vota.. ahh well.
DH with 19 MS, Vault - Tumble and Tactical advantage, others wait in town and spawn on the DH when he finds elite. It's pretty effective it must be average 10 sec between elites.
Never done this route much before but from what I heard the Tower used to spawn more elites. Not one time I"ve gotten a pack in level 1.
I almost I'm afraid to say in fear of it getting nerfed, but I got a watch tower last night with 9 champs/elites and a goblin and a mf shrine. I had to tp back to town to sell before finishing it(and I keep nothing in my inventory, no swaps). It was one that had the event that you find the quiver or scabbard, I forget which, but I want to say the other watch tower that I found 7 in had the same event so when you get that event you hit the honey pot.
This was after running around a2 for 10m only finding 1 champion pack and said screw it and left, so I think I'll stick to act 1 farming.
On July 14 2012 00:18 serum321 wrote: I almost I'm afraid to say in fear of it getting nerfed, but I got a watch tower last night with 9 champs/elites and a goblin and a mf shrine. I had to tp back to town to sell before finishing it(and I keep nothing in my inventory, no swaps). It was one that had the event that you find the quiver or scabbard, I forget which, but I want to say the other watch tower that I found 7 in had the same event so when you get that event you hit the honey pot.
This was after running around a2 for 10m only finding 1 champion pack and said screw it and left, so I think I'll stick to act 1 farming.
if you like watch tower and can do act2 comfortably, vault of assassins is a better version of it (minus nerfed gold chest). Clearing oasis + desolate sands -> zoltun kulle is great.
On July 14 2012 00:18 serum321 wrote: I almost I'm afraid to say in fear of it getting nerfed, but I got a watch tower last night with 9 champs/elites and a goblin and a mf shrine. I had to tp back to town to sell before finishing it(and I keep nothing in my inventory, no swaps). It was one that had the event that you find the quiver or scabbard, I forget which, but I want to say the other watch tower that I found 7 in had the same event so when you get that event you hit the honey pot.
This was after running around a2 for 10m only finding 1 champion pack and said screw it and left, so I think I'll stick to act 1 farming.
I had a watch tower run where I didn't find any elites.
On July 15 2012 09:27 justiceknight wrote: any1 knows the farming route for A3?
Siege to Azmodan. You do all three levels of depths, stonefort, and whatever other zone you want to do.
I like to do the fortified fortified bunker/armory/barracks as well. At least 4-5 elites + chest and chance of goblin
I tend to skip those. The dungeons are irritatingly long with long stretches of no enemies and if you finally run into an enemy and he happens to be extra health/vortex/firechains/reflect damage and kills you instantly you have to walk all the way back again.
So I decided to take my budget WW barb to the Pony level after getting 5nv real fast and found... 4 packs.. (and 4 rares with 0 MF :-(... I guess Pony level is completely skipped these days which makes moo sad.
I'm considering investing in Inferno Whimsyshire for my CM Wiz to farm. I think I've got good enough stats and if I can run it quickly, it will let me farm at Act 3 loot levels without all the hassle of Act 3 mobs.
On August 09 2012 07:45 yamato77 wrote: I'm considering investing in Inferno Whimsyshire for my CM Wiz to farm. I think I've got good enough stats and if I can run it quickly, it will let me farm at Act 3 loot levels without all the hassle of Act 3 mobs.
Best way to farm act 3 is Azmon run, but try to use waypoint to all the places in the act, go around the entrance to find elites, then go to the next level, go back to the previous. I.E. deep kepth lvl 1, enter from the bastion stronghold, kill elites, go home, Way point to lvl 1, kill elites from that end, to act 2 right after that, then act 3. Similar to that later on.
On July 11 2012 10:14 lynx.oblige wrote: Confirming again on Watch Tower with 7 elites. Had 7 elites and a gob a week or two ago. Haven't had another spawn like that since lol
My first time playing for a few weeks, I read about this run path, get Watchtower, 0 elites. 1 unique mob though for an event...
On July 11 2012 10:14 lynx.oblige wrote: Confirming again on Watch Tower with 7 elites. Had 7 elites and a gob a week or two ago. Haven't had another spawn like that since lol
My first time playing for a few weeks, I read about this run path, get Watchtower, 0 elites. 1 unique mob though for an event...
Happened again. :|
That does happen every once in awhile, but unless they have ninja nerfed it, it isn't often. I'd say ~1/15 watch towers. Imagine a bell curve with 0 being on one end and 7 being on the other.
What I do is check the cemetary first to see if the rare there is up. Then check for the watch tower. If I get at least 2 stacks, either 1 from cem and 1 from wt or 2 from wt, I continue farming. If I get 0-1 stack then I remake.
I'm considering starting to farm act 2 in inferno after a long long time of Butcher runs, what spot do you consider the most interesting for act 2?
When i make an act 1 run, i proceed like this - Launch the last quest before the butcher - Festering wood (usually out with 4-5 NV) - Cemetery (the 3 crypts) - Quick check at old tristram for caves - Leoric mansion (you go back until you reach the leoric hunting ground - Halls of agony level 2 until the butcher.
On August 10 2012 22:56 Furlisht wrote: I'm considering starting to farm act 2 in inferno after a long long time of Butcher runs, what spot do you consider the most interesting for act 2?
When i make an act 1 run, i proceed like this - Launch the last quest before the butcher - Festering wood (usually out with 4-5 NV) - Cemetery (the 3 crypts) - Quick check at old tristram for caves - Leoric mansion (you go back until you reach the leoric hunting ground - Halls of agony level 2 until the butcher.
+-40min run
Start on Black Soulstone (soulstone chamber) quest. Basically the one you take to kill Zultan Kulle. Look for the Vault of the Assassin in the Desolate Sands area. Once you get the checkpoint in there, as long as you don't go to any other area in the quest line and don't kill Kulle, you'll start each new game inside VotA and won't have to look for it.
VotA has great elite density. I've had as many as 13 in there once, and usually at least 7 each time. Areas after that are up to personal preference.
I personally clear Ancient Path (goblin), Road to Alcarnus (goblin + 1-2 elites), the sewer next to the Path to Oasis WP (goblin + 1-3 elites), Black Canyon mines and both areas north and south. Ruins dungeon (not 100%) in North is great for elites + resplendent, and there's usually 3-4 in South. Plus mines has 2-4 elites + goblin chance. Lastly, and sometimes I don't do this, I clear the Oasis. The Oasis is hit and miss depending on the dungeons that spawn. Mysterious cave/flooded cave/Tomb of Kwan something are great. Overall good for anywhere from 6-10 elites depending on dungeon spawns. Overall, run usually takes me 35-45 minutes depending on if I do Oasis or not.
So we know the item iLvL drop rates per act is pretty much as Blizz described, can someone find/link any accumulated legendary/set/6/5/4/blue/white drop rates?
I assume when an item drops 1- item type is rolled (probably equal chance for each slot..?) 2- item level is determine (per released info) 3- item quality determined (no info released) 4- item affixs determined and rolled (range determined by iLvL)
I'm curious since as far as we know, there are no iLvL 63 legendaries, so 'optimal' farming of them would be in Act 2 probably ASSUMING the drop rate chance for L/S is the same between acts... Or if the rolls are even separate.
On August 13 2012 23:40 kafkaesque wrote: How do Range-Classes handle the invisible snake-people in act II?
I'm not talking about the magi, but about the invisible melee "naga", that aren't attackable unless they are in melee range?
When you see/hear them, you have to move and kite as you were attacking them, when they appear, you will be out of their range and will be able to kill them easily. When they are numerous, do the same and quickly launch invisibility to be sure. Also, having a templar with you to tank some shots helps a lot!
I think so far for me, Vault of the Assassin (Act II) is a very good farming spot for a DH. The area is not too big and it contains about 8-10 elites.
The trick is to start with the Blood and Sands quest and then find the VotA. If you quit without completing the quest (i.e. don't take the blood), you will spawn inside the VotA the next time you log in. The downside is that if you do another quest (lets say you grp with a friend elsewhere), you need to find the VotA again.
After you clear the VotA, you can jump to earlier waypoints like the start of the Desert (where there is sometimes a goblin) and Black Canyon Mines where you can quickly find elites.
I tend to like Act II farming because I can run it with high MF gear and I basically don't die unless I mess up. If I farm Act III (Cyndaea and Azmodan), I need to use my full gear and there is the occassional frustration of pulling an elite Phase Beast pack near the Tower entrances. Maybe once my DPS hits the 80k mark (without SS), I can think of doing Act III more often.
On August 13 2012 23:40 kafkaesque wrote: How do Range-Classes handle the invisible snake-people in act II?
I'm not talking about the magi, but about the invisible melee "naga", that aren't attackable unless they are in melee range?
My strategy against them (as a DH) is to be ready when I hear their sound. When I see the "shiver" on the screen, I activate gloom and start firing. Gloom will keep me alive if I get hit. More DPS also helps.
On August 24 2012 16:39 HyunA wrote: hey guys. i just started playing again after ~a month and a half and i'm wondering if the farming location in this thread are still viable.
thanks a lot.
its still the same,the only stuff to look out for is no more goblin farm @ A2.If ur gears are arent good then do the runs in A1 which they repeated the steps 123123 times,otherwise A3 siege breaker.
On August 24 2012 16:39 HyunA wrote: hey guys. i just started playing again after ~a month and a half and i'm wondering if the farming location in this thread are still viable.
thanks a lot.
its still the same,the only stuff to look out for is no more goblin farm @ A2.If ur gears are arent good then do the runs in A1 which they repeated the steps 123123 times,otherwise A3 siege breaker.
so it's no more worth to do elite runs in act 2? like VotA, etc. ? i can't farm a3 yet so i guess i'll stick to a2 since a1 drops shit
Highly recommend the Northern Highlands (? the one after spidy) in Act1 for the cave of the moonclan. 2 Levels, can spawn up to 4 packs and 1 gobo lvl1, 2 packs 1 gobo 1 resplen lvl2. The cave is allways there. Also the road up to the cave can have up to 5 packs and a gobo. Theres also a random range of events , some with a pack, sometimes the lyceum (up to 3 packs).
Also nice to get ur paragon up since its pretty packed with mobs
On August 24 2012 16:39 HyunA wrote: hey guys. i just started playing again after ~a month and a half and i'm wondering if the farming location in this thread are still viable.
thanks a lot.
its still the same,the only stuff to look out for is no more goblin farm @ A2.If ur gears are arent good then do the runs in A1 which they repeated the steps 123123 times,otherwise A3 siege breaker.
so it's no more worth to do elite runs in act 2? like VotA, etc. ? i can't farm a3 yet so i guess i'll stick to a2 since a1 drops shit
You misunderstood, ofcourse it's worth to do elite runs in A2 and VotA is still awesome. A2 is a WHOLE other world than A3 in terms of difficulty, and the mobs people complain about are easily countered.
E.g. the cloaking Naga you need to be aware of, and start running back (if you are ranged ofc) as soon as they cloak. After a while and some trial and error, you can "bait" them out of the cloak while moving safely out of their melee range. Over time you even learn to time their re-appearance so good you can pop your "oh shit" skills just as they spawn.
A1 is utter shit imo, the amount of lvl 51-59 items there makes it a really sad place to farm, if you are at all able to do A2.
Some claim A3 is "easier" than A2, but I don't agree with that. A3 stuff just has so much more HP and damage, that you will die too much if you are unable to farm A2 efficiently.
On August 24 2012 16:39 HyunA wrote: hey guys. i just started playing again after ~a month and a half and i'm wondering if the farming location in this thread are still viable.
thanks a lot.
its still the same,the only stuff to look out for is no more goblin farm @ A2.If ur gears are arent good then do the runs in A1 which they repeated the steps 123123 times,otherwise A3 siege breaker.
so it's no more worth to do elite runs in act 2? like VotA, etc. ? i can't farm a3 yet so i guess i'll stick to a2 since a1 drops shit
You misunderstood, ofcourse it's worth to do elite runs in A2 and VotA is still awesome. A2 is a WHOLE other world than A3 in terms of difficulty, and the mobs people complain about are easily countered.
E.g. the cloaking Naga you need to be aware of, and start running back (if you are ranged ofc) as soon as they cloak. After a while and some trial and error, you can "bait" them out of the cloak while moving safely out of their melee range. Over time you even learn to time their re-appearance so good you can pop your "oh shit" skills just as they spawn.
A1 is utter shit imo, the amount of lvl 51-59 items there makes it a really sad place to farm, if you are at all able to do A2.
thanks for the heads up but i'm a 32k hp 1.1k AR monk with 20k dmg so i just stand there and fight everyone in act 2 without any problem ^^ but i can't farm efficiently cydaea-azmo since it takes a lot of time to kill even normal mobs... at least i dont die tho.
and yeah, i think i wasted my time trying to farm act 1 since the drops are crap. i'll try with the northern highlands though. if the drops are still crap i'll move to act 2 VotA, alcarnus, etc. elite runs.
A1 is the most viable option for Legendry farming (if such a thing exists). 250-300 MF gear plus 75 MF from NV will yield better legendry drop chance compared to more DPS less MF gear variants in later acts.
Yeah but since the good legendaries are item level 62-63, won't it be about the same gain between A1 MF runs and A3 no mf, considering how much more A3 drops?
On August 24 2012 19:19 McNulty wrote: Yeah but since the good legendaries are item level 62-63, won't it be about the same gain between A1 MF runs and A3 no mf, considering how much more A3 drops?
yeah, you're pretty much right about this.
can you tell me what items do i need to get for increasing my dps? (or you can pm me if you can time. or you can add me at skiesoflust#2586 in game if you're playing on EU) one month and a half ago i got frustrated on the game and i sold everything on real money so now when i came back, my budget is small now ~7m.
what i have on myself is ~5m worth of gear that i bought two days ago. i have some of my mf gear on for farming act 1 on my bnet profile, but you can still see the majority of the items.
I've been bouncing between acts 1-3 on my monk with 286 base MF (lvl 9) and have found a grand total of 2 crappy 1.04 legendaries.
So much good rare gear is out on the AH now that it should be very easy to farm whatever act you want. Farming legendaries however is just frustrating as the drop rate is so low MF or not. Since launch I've gotten a grand total of 2 set items >_>
On August 24 2012 19:04 McNulty wrote: Why would you do A1 then? What's the point when item levels are so low? Sure it's the fastest choice, but I still don't think its worth it at all.
If I were you I'd probably try to sacrifice about 50% of the AR, or even more, to gain 10-20k dmg and farm A2 at a reasonable rate.
it simply depends on your killing speed in a3. if it is fast enough, say at half the speed of a1, then you should do a3. the elite density in a3 is actually very high if you are always running, either a cinder dh or a ww barb. dunno about the other classes.
On August 24 2012 19:19 McNulty wrote: Yeah but since the good legendaries are item level 62-63, won't it be about the same gain between A1 MF runs and A3 no mf, considering how much more A3 drops?
yeah, you're pretty much right about this.
can you tell me what items do i need to get for increasing my dps? (or you can pm me if you can time. or you can add me at skiesoflust#2586 in game if you're playing on EU) one month and a half ago i got frustrated on the game and i sold everything on real money so now when i came back, my budget is small now ~7m.
what i have on myself is ~5m worth of gear that i bought two days ago. i have some of my mf gear on for farming act 1 on my bnet profile, but you can still see the majority of the items.
I don't think i should be giving too much advice on monk gear, since i've never played one myself in retail, but if my DH was geared about the same way as your Monk, i'd probably scrap all of the MF stuff and go for dex - critdmg / crit - vita - all res, in that order.
If you only go for 2 stats, or 3 stats it really should not cost too much getting gear which enables you to piss on A2.
Don't know how much AR you need as monk in A2 / A3 but i'm doing A3 with my DH with like 180 average res and 2400 armor, and can sometimes take a hit from a Phase Beast.
On August 24 2012 19:19 McNulty wrote: Yeah but since the good legendaries are item level 62-63, won't it be about the same gain between A1 MF runs and A3 no mf, considering how much more A3 drops?
yeah, you're pretty much right about this.
can you tell me what items do i need to get for increasing my dps? (or you can pm me if you can time. or you can add me at skiesoflust#2586 in game if you're playing on EU) one month and a half ago i got frustrated on the game and i sold everything on real money so now when i came back, my budget is small now ~7m.
what i have on myself is ~5m worth of gear that i bought two days ago. i have some of my mf gear on for farming act 1 on my bnet profile, but you can still see the majority of the items.
I don't think i should be giving too much advice on monk gear, since i've never played one myself in retail, but if my DH was geared about the same way as your Monk, i'd probably scrap all of the MF stuff and go for dex - critdmg / crit - vita - all res, in that order.
If you only go for 2 stats, or 3 stats it really should not cost too much getting gear which enables you to piss on A2.
Don't know how much AR you need as monk in A2 / A3 but i'm doing A3 with my DH with like 180 average res and 2400 armor, and can sometimes take a hit from a Phase Beast.
alright, i already updated my weapons and gloves and i'll start farming a2 for more money to buy better gear.
I think Act 3 Keep Depths run up to Ghom is really good farming spot. Relatively short and lots of packs and good high level drops (most are ilvl 61+).
Is this a good route for A3? If not, what is the preferred route? It seems insanely long to be efficient...
Route: Heart of Sin/Sin Heart -> restart game until Fortified Bunker spawns, clear Fortified Bunker -> take dungeon TP to Arreat Gate, full clear including any dungeons -> Skycrown Battlements -> Stonefort -> Keep Depths 1/2/3 -> Rakkis Crossing (check for Underbridge), clear back to Killing Fields -> Tower of the Cursed clear to Cyd/Azmo
If you can stack a crap ton of MF and can't do A2/A3 easily, do Warrior's Rest. If you start a new quest, you can get a checkpoint at the entrance of the cave. Clear the elite in 15 seconds, TP out, and remake the game. You can get a full inventory of items in less than 15 minutes.
I like farming the keep depths. Got 2 legendary items from there so far.. Skeletons are really easy to clear, just pray that you don't find elite lickers..
On August 24 2012 23:47 Heh_ wrote: If you can stack a crap ton of MF and can't do A2/A3 easily, do Warrior's Rest. If you start a new quest, you can get a checkpoint at the entrance of the cave. Clear the elite in 15 seconds, TP out, and remake the game. You can get a full inventory of items in less than 15 minutes.
I like farming the keep depths. Got 2 legendary items from there so far.. Skeletons are really easy to clear, just pray that you don't find elite lickers..
Can i safely farm act 2 with this? Never really attempted it and i kinda only get one try. Freaking invisible worms scare the shit out of me and before 1.04 they hit like trucks.
On August 24 2012 23:47 Heh_ wrote: If you can stack a crap ton of MF and can't do A2/A3 easily, do Warrior's Rest. If you start a new quest, you can get a checkpoint at the entrance of the cave. Clear the elite in 15 seconds, TP out, and remake the game. You can get a full inventory of items in less than 15 minutes.
I like farming the keep depths. Got 2 legendary items from there so far.. Skeletons are really easy to clear, just pray that you don't find elite lickers..
where's warrior's rest? act/quest? thanks
A1, finding the 2 beacons to place on the pedestals. The one with the long horizontal path is Warrior's Rest.
On August 24 2012 23:47 Heh_ wrote: If you can stack a crap ton of MF and can't do A2/A3 easily, do Warrior's Rest. If you start a new quest, you can get a checkpoint at the entrance of the cave. Clear the elite in 15 seconds, TP out, and remake the game. You can get a full inventory of items in less than 15 minutes.
I like farming the keep depths. Got 2 legendary items from there so far.. Skeletons are really easy to clear, just pray that you don't find elite lickers..
where's warrior's rest? act/quest? thanks
A1, finding the 2 beacons to place on the pedestals. The one with the long horizontal path is Warrior's Rest.
I can vouch this as super easy and fast, it's often how I kill time at work
I just beat D last night with my WD so I figure it's time to move from act 1/2 farming to act 3 as I can easily clear whatever with my mf+dps gear (~320mf with follower, no stacks).
edit - do you just do the keeps? clear it all then repeat?
Can i safely farm act 2 with this? Never really attempted it and i kinda only get one try. Freaking invisible worms scare the shit out of me and before 1.04 they hit like trucks.
You should be fine for vault runs, problem is getting there..
On August 24 2012 23:47 Heh_ wrote: If you can stack a crap ton of MF and can't do A2/A3 easily, do Warrior's Rest. If you start a new quest, you can get a checkpoint at the entrance of the cave. Clear the elite in 15 seconds, TP out, and remake the game. You can get a full inventory of items in less than 15 minutes.
I like farming the keep depths. Got 2 legendary items from there so far.. Skeletons are really easy to clear, just pray that you don't find elite lickers..
where's warrior's rest? act/quest? thanks
A1, finding the 2 beacons to place on the pedestals. The one with the long horizontal path is Warrior's Rest.
I can vouch this as super easy and fast, it's often how I kill time at work
I just beat D last night with my WD so I figure it's time to move from act 1/2 farming to act 3 as I can easily clear whatever with my mf+dps gear (~320mf with follower, no stacks).
edit - do you just do the keeps? clear it all then repeat?
At work?!?!?!?! You can play games at work!?!?!? Not fair =/
I can't do cyd/azmo (spiderlings rape me) so I do siegebreaker. Start with siegebreaker quest, clear the keep depths 1/2/3, the ballista/trebuchet area, icefall caverns (no caverns of frost that place sucks), rakkis crossing, siegebreaker and the arreat crater lvl 1. Might as well maximize your 5-stack valor.
On August 24 2012 23:47 Heh_ wrote: If you can stack a crap ton of MF and can't do A2/A3 easily, do Warrior's Rest. If you start a new quest, you can get a checkpoint at the entrance of the cave. Clear the elite in 15 seconds, TP out, and remake the game. You can get a full inventory of items in less than 15 minutes.
I like farming the keep depths. Got 2 legendary items from there so far.. Skeletons are really easy to clear, just pray that you don't find elite lickers..
where's warrior's rest? act/quest? thanks
A1, finding the 2 beacons to place on the pedestals. The one with the long horizontal path is Warrior's Rest.
I can vouch this as super easy and fast, it's often how I kill time at work
I just beat D last night with my WD so I figure it's time to move from act 1/2 farming to act 3 as I can easily clear whatever with my mf+dps gear (~320mf with follower, no stacks).
edit - do you just do the keeps? clear it all then repeat?
At work?!?!?!?! You can play games at work!?!?!? Not fair =/
I can't do cyd/azmo (spiderlings rape me) so I do siegebreaker. Start with siegebreaker quest, clear the keep depths 1/2/3, the ballista/trebuchet area, icefall caverns (no caverns of frost that place sucks), rakkis crossing, siegebreaker and the arreat crater lvl 1. Might as well maximize your 5-stack valor.
Actually i would say act3 best for hunting. I just got 3 legendarys in 5hrs or so...one night of farming. I am very happy
too bad Warmonger/IK gloves are both weak rolls. Manticore is pretty nice tho
Well, you just got lucky. Of course Act 3 is best for farming if you are capable of doing it (1. Azmodan/Cydea runs 2. Siegebreaker runs), but you shouldn't be raising people dreams about getting easy legendaries there I have been farming Act 3 a lot (Azmodan/Cydea runs) and didn't get a single legendary. Maybe I'm just unlucky, because of 260 hours spent playing Diablo 3 I only had one legendary drop.
On August 25 2012 22:06 SeggsyLori wrote: I switch to 317% MF gear before every kill and didn't get one in 9 Paragonlevels...
I've got 4 (all useless or mediocre, but anyway) in 12 paragon levels, 3 of them from white mobs. Gear swapping never looked like an effective way of getting legendaries to me.
Learn the expression people... there is no magic (ehehe) magic find cap at which you suddenly start getting legendaries. Before patch I've gotten about 12 legendaries since May. Been playing loads with MORE mf than before since patch, and haven't found one.
MF gear helps, but you can get 10 legendaries in one day, in act1 with 0% mf one day, and then next day you don't find a single one in A3 with 350% MF.
On August 25 2012 22:22 McNulty wrote: RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR
Learn the expression people... there is no magic (ehehe) magic find cap at which you suddenly start getting legendaries. Before patch I've gotten about 12 legendaries since May. Been playing loads with MORE mf than before since patch, and haven't found one.
MF gear helps, but you can get 10 legendaries in one day, in act1 with 0% mf one day, and then next day you don't find a single one in A3 with 350% MF.
Pretty much this. Also "200% MF To get legendaries" is one of the most stupid rumors in Diablo 3.
On August 25 2012 22:06 SeggsyLori wrote: I switch to 317% MF gear before every kill and didn't get one in 9 Paragonlevels...
I've got 4 (all useless or mediocre, but anyway) in 12 paragon levels, 3 of them from white mobs. Gear swapping never looked like an effective way of getting legendaries to me.
Yeah, sold all my gold and gear pre Patch. Got 2.50€/Million muhahaha. I will have to wait until Paragon 50 till I will find a legendary. Gear with Str/Vit/AR AND MF is just not affordable and it will drop in price when people get higher in paragon levels so no great resell-value.
Afaik high MF only influences the amount of rares, not their quality. Quality is alot higher on average in Act 3. A few days after the patch with hardly any MF gear on I almost always got 3 rares from elites with only the NV. That did go down for some reason now though, even though my MF is higher.
On August 29 2012 17:35 disco wrote: ^ What he said.
Afaik high MF only influences the amount of rares, not their quality. Quality is alot higher on average in Act 3. A few days after the patch with hardly any MF gear on I almost always got 3 rares from elites with only the NV. That did go down for some reason now though, even though my MF is higher.
MF influences the number of stats per item, higher then MF higher the chance of getting 6 prop etc... bliz confirmed this unless they have changed it.
On August 29 2012 17:35 disco wrote: ^ What he said.
Afaik high MF only influences the amount of rares, not their quality. Quality is alot higher on average in Act 3. A few days after the patch with hardly any MF gear on I almost always got 3 rares from elites with only the NV. That did go down for some reason now though, even though my MF is higher.
MF influences the number of stats per item, higher then MF higher the chance of getting 6 prop etc... bliz confirmed this unless they have changed it.
Are you sure? I remember reading them saying its only about a higher chance of a magic / rare drop, not quality.
On August 29 2012 15:30 Initiative wrote: Is it better to farm Act 1 with high MF gear or farm Act 2/3 with less MF?
Act 3. Skip 2.
Not true. Act2 VOTA runs are pretty worth the effort n time.
I would like to say that having MF gear to swap on killing goblins is very worth it. I've gotten 3legendary from killing goblins in act3 already.
I also agree - VOTA is pretty worthwhile in terms of farming. After that, you can go to Black Canyon Mines and you'll possibly find elites near the waypoint. Also, Act2 is easier than Act3.
That being said, you should be looking to move into Act3 eventually since it's more lucrative.
On August 29 2012 17:35 disco wrote: ^ What he said.
Afaik high MF only influences the amount of rares, not their quality. Quality is alot higher on average in Act 3. A few days after the patch with hardly any MF gear on I almost always got 3 rares from elites with only the NV. That did go down for some reason now though, even though my MF is higher.
MF influences the number of stats per item, higher then MF higher the chance of getting 6 prop etc... bliz confirmed this unless they have changed it.
Are you sure? I remember reading them saying its only about a higher chance of a magic / rare drop, not quality.
pretty sure! there was a blue post somewhere that outlined this. something along the lines of: they first randomnise the type of item eg. 0.1% legendary -> 1% lvl63 -> 4% lvl62 etc... then it defaults on 4 prop then your MF brings that chance higher to be a 5 prop or 6 prop. that's basically same as "more rares" as whites and blues are limited in the number of properties, so your high MF leads to more props --> leads to more rares as such again, might have changed, i haven't played for a month....
edit: i think we're talking about the same thing. lol. depends if you think more props = better quality or more props = more rares.
I can farm quite okayish ACT3, elite/yelllow mobs aren't problem for me and rest as well, but it takes some time to fulfil whole backpack with yellows and I kill everything on my runs. I got kinda bored with ACT3 already since there aren't many caves and everything is so wide open. Finding elites/yellows takes _some_ time.
Now in ACT2 I can run pass everything leaving everything on the map, and focus only on elite mobs/yellows and don't touch white mobs almost at all. Killing elites/yellows takes me 2/3 less time than in ACT3. Yesterday I got whole backpack of yellows in about ~30 min run. So which is better?
I know that ACT2 gives worse items in general, but I still got bunch of i61-63. Now the question is: do these items (ilvl 61-63) roll overall with worse stats than in ACT3 or is it exactly the same? I find ACT2 so much more interesting (more caves/more elite packs/more places to farm) and it takes me no time to get 30 yellows, while in ACT3 I'm not that fast.
On August 29 2012 18:45 Gamera wrote: Ok guys here is the thing and a question:
I can farm quite okayish ACT3, elite/yelllow mobs aren't problem for me and rest as well, but it takes some time to fulfil whole backpack with yellows and I kill everything on my runs. I got kinda bored with ACT3 already since there aren't many caves and everything is so wide open. Finding elites/yellows takes _some_ time.
Now in ACT2 I can run pass everything leaving everything on the map, and focus only on elite mobs/yellows and don't touch white mobs almost at all. Killing elites/yellows takes me 2/3 less time than in ACT3. Yesterday I got whole backpack of yellows in about ~30 min run. So which is better?
I know that ACT2 gives worse items in general, but I still got bunch of i61-63. Now the question is: do these items (ilvl 61-63) roll overall with worse stats than in ACT3 or is it exactly the same? I find ACT2 so much more interesting (more caves/more elite packs/more places to farm) and it takes me no time to get 30 yellows, while in ACT3 I'm not that fast.
So what's better? I don't have MF gear at all.
From my own personal experience, there is a "tipping-point" in your gear where Act3 becomes better than Act2 in terms of productivity. Until then, Act2 is better. It won't be possible for an outsider to determine your tipping point, it comes from your own individual experience.
You can't compare yellow items in terms of run productivity because Act2 and Act3 has an equal chance of producing rares - and since Act2 is easier, you're definitely going to find more rares in Act2. What you should think about is the ilevel of the rares.
If you're on the edge of the tipping point, it's probably better to do both acts since it gives variety.
Another point to consider, in Act3, the arreat levels is very good in terms of farming for paragon xp because the area has alot of squishy densely packed white mobs (scorpions).
Well that should be an easy calculation. Take the time you take to complete both runs, take the amount of potential usefull items BEFORE identifying and do the math.
For me, Act3 is the way to go since I find more lvl63 weapons then I even find lvl62 weapons it seems.
Act2 is alot faster, but theres so much junk, its not worth it for me imo.
yeah its really a trade off. i personally do act 3 coz u get more of the better gear, specially weapons, and now i can do it fairly easily/quikly. But really a smaller % of more items vs a little more % of less items should trade off in someway, at least till u are geared to smah act3.
Thing is what ive found is that in act 2 you can get very good pieces of armour as they are more roll based than ilevel based, if ur lucky om the rolls a i61 can be much better than a i63, the weapons are def better in act3. and also the ah is flooded with high dps weapons now which has lowered their prices a ton, not so much with the good armour pieces.
The best way to illustrate the drop system as I understand it would be saying that items with different amount of affixes are just different tiers of items: Legendary > 6 affix rare > 5 affix rare > 4 affix rare > 3 affix magic > 2 affix magic > 1 affix magic > white > grey
First RNG roll determines the slot and item level. It's only affected by the level of difficulty and act. Then the second roll determines the tier of the item, higher MF increases the chance of getting an item from the higher tier. If there is no legendary for this item level and slot pair then the highest tier is most likely 6 affix rare. How does MF affect the rare drop guaranteed by 5 NV stacks isn't exactly known as of yet I think.
It's important to note that the item's quality isn't linearly determined by the amount of affixes, you can get 6 bad affixes or 3 good ones and the MF has no effect on this. Items with more good affixes tend to be better overall though.
It's important to note that the item's quality isn't linearly determined by the amount of affixes, you can get 6 bad affixes or 3 good ones and the MF has no effect on this. Items with more good affixes tend to be better overall though.
+1 on that, sort of what i just said.
the exception is the weapons though, their dps seems to be more based on the ilevel. Even post patch where i61 and i62 can roll good damage i yet have to see one that catches up to the i63 ones.
It's important to note that the item's quality isn't linearly determined by the amount of affixes, you can get 6 bad affixes or 3 good ones and the MF has no effect on this. Items with more good affixes tend to be better overall though.
+1 on that, sort of what i just said.
the exception is the weapons though, their dps seems to be more based on the ilevel. Even post patch where i61 and i62 can roll good damage i yet have to see one that catches up to the i63 ones.
Weapons aren't really an exception from what I've said. Item level directly affects the maximum amount of stats each affix can roll. Weapon DPS comes from it's base damage spread, elemental damage affix (or +min/+max damage one) and +%damage affix, they all tend to be higher on ilevel 63 items. But you still can get a magic weapon with very high DPS that will be of much higher quality than a 6 affix rare with no damage increasing affixes.
It's important to note that the item's quality isn't linearly determined by the amount of affixes, you can get 6 bad affixes or 3 good ones and the MF has no effect on this. Items with more good affixes tend to be better overall though.
+1 on that, sort of what i just said.
the exception is the weapons though, their dps seems to be more based on the ilevel. Even post patch where i61 and i62 can roll good damage i yet have to see one that catches up to the i63 ones.
Very well rolled 62's and near perfect 61's can still command 7 and 8 digit prices, deservedly so, but definitely it's a lot more rare to see that because 62's have ~30-40 less base dps, and 61's ~70-80. It comes down much more to the affix's you roll.
Also, didn't 1.04 make it so that 61-63 all can roll the same base damage modifiers(eg bonus cold/fire/holy etc)
Weapons aren't really an exception from what I've said. Item level directly affects the maximum amount of stats each affix can roll. Weapon DPS comes from it's base damage spread, elemental damage affix (or +min/+max damage one) and +%damage affix, they all tend to be higher on ilevel 63 items. But you still can get a magic weapon with very high DPS that will be of much higher quality than a 6 affix rare with no damage increasing affixes.
yeah this is true but, remember before last patch the big difference there was from an i62 to an i63? there were very good rolls on 62s and they wrere very far behind from just good i63s. so there is or was some other factor limiting the lower level weapons.
To my thinking its the ranges in the rolls are bigger in i63s + that obviously i63s have bigger base dps just because their level, just like armour pieces do in the armour rating, but that seems less important.
thing is post patch it is supposedly evened out, but i havent seen any 1000 dps i62 one handers.
I think in the patch they've just increased the amount of damage 61 and 62 weapons can get from elemental or +min/+max damage affixes. They still have lower base damage and they have lower maximum on +%damage affix.
Weapons aren't really an exception from what I've said. Item level directly affects the maximum amount of stats each affix can roll. Weapon DPS comes from it's base damage spread, elemental damage affix (or +min/+max damage one) and +%damage affix, they all tend to be higher on ilevel 63 items. But you still can get a magic weapon with very high DPS that will be of much higher quality than a 6 affix rare with no damage increasing affixes.
yeah this is true but, remember before last patch the big difference there was from an i62 to an i63? there were very good rolls on 62s and they wrere very far behind from just good i63s. so there is or was some other factor limiting the lower level weapons.
To my thinking its the ranges in the rolls are bigger in i63s + that obviously i63s have bigger base dps just because their level, just like armour pieces do in the armour rating, but that seems less important.
thing is post patch it is supposedly evened out, but i havent seen any 1000 dps i62 one handers.
On August 29 2012 15:30 Initiative wrote: Is it better to farm Act 1 with high MF gear or farm Act 2/3 with less MF?
Act 3. Skip 2.
Not true. Act2 VOTA runs are pretty worth the effort n time.
I would like to say that having MF gear to swap on killing goblins is very worth it. I've gotten 3legendary from killing goblins in act3 already.
I also agree - VOTA is pretty worthwhile in terms of farming. After that, you can go to Black Canyon Mines and you'll possibly find elites near the waypoint. Also, Act2 is easier than Act3.
That being said, you should be looking to move into Act3 eventually since it's more lucrative.
Honestly, if you can survive VOTA, you should be able to survive Act3. It might be a little slower, but the loot is better, the levels are more consistent, and you can stay in the game longer (which means you'll have more 5-Stack uptime). In my opinion there just isn't a good reason to farm VotA.
The real question is how to interpret the patch note:
"Legendary Sets: All item level 61 set pieces have been increased to item level 63 (excluding rings and amulets), and had their base item changed from late hell/early inferno to late inferno."
To mean that all legendaries 63 can only drop in Act3/4 or just the base item being Archon. I haven't gotten a single 63 to drop in any act, so I wouldn't know.
On August 30 2012 00:23 Burrfoot wrote: The real question is how to interpret the patch note:
"Legendary Sets: All item level 61 set pieces have been increased to item level 63 (excluding rings and amulets), and had their base item changed from late hell/early inferno to late inferno."
To mean that all legendaries 63 can only drop in Act3/4 or just the base item being Archon. I haven't gotten a single 63 to drop in any act, so I wouldn't know.
Ya. That sounds to me like that's what it means. I've only found two 63's and they were both in Act 3. But I've also only done one butcher run post patch.
I'm farming act2, and I'm finding rare lvl 63 weapons/armor. Probably not as many as you do in act 3, but they certainly drop. No legendaries though, maybe they just moved those up?
I just remembered that you can farm pretty well in Whimsyshire.. MF no longer works on the clouds, but you still get a crap ton of gold from them. The mobs are all melee, there are about 6 elite packs, and you can easily farm 5NV in A1 cemetery/watchtower.
On August 30 2012 01:05 Heh_ wrote: I just remembered that you can farm pretty well in Whimsyshire.. MF no longer works on the clouds, but you still get a crap ton of gold from them. The mobs are all melee, there are about 6 elite packs, and you can easily farm 5NV in A1 cemetery/watchtower.
Pro Tip: Trail of cinders absolutely wrecks whimsy.
On August 30 2012 01:05 Heh_ wrote: I just remembered that you can farm pretty well in Whimsyshire.. MF no longer works on the clouds, but you still get a crap ton of gold from them. The mobs are all melee, there are about 6 elite packs, and you can easily farm 5NV in A1 cemetery/watchtower.
Pro Tip: Trail of cinders absolutely wrecks whimsy.
I didn't think of that.... Time to gear up my crappy little DH >,>
Probably a better use of my 7 million than trying to snipe godly set items as bidding expires. 5 million gold bid? Nope, 20 million now.
On August 30 2012 00:59 Zyndrumz wrote: I'm farming act2, and I'm finding rare lvl 63 weapons/armor. Probably not as many as you do in act 3, but they certainly drop. No legendaries though, maybe they just moved those up?
i farmed act 2 a lot last days since i am just starting out. i found 2 really good legendaries. One from a small spider normal mob that is worth about 50m gold at the moment and one of those fire boots with 230 strength but no res all that i sold for real money. So, its just random, all items drop in act 2.
i actually like act 2 a lot more than act 3 for my demon hunter. vault of assassin->sewers 1-2 elites->mines 2 elites->road to a...1-2 elites->oasis 5 elites->desert a few elites. really fast and efficient.
On August 30 2012 00:59 Zyndrumz wrote: I'm farming act2, and I'm finding rare lvl 63 weapons/armor. Probably not as many as you do in act 3, but they certainly drop. No legendaries though, maybe they just moved those up?
i farmed act 2 a lot last days since i am just starting out. i found 2 really good legendaries. One from a small spider normal mob that is worth about 50m gold at the moment and one of those fire boots with 230 strength but no res all that i sold for real money. So, its just random, all items drop in act 2.
i actually like act 2 a lot more than act 3 for my demon hunter. vault of assassin->sewers 1-2 elites->mines 2 elites->road to a...1-2 elites->oasis 5 elites->desert a few elites. really fast and efficient.
maybe you just ofrgot to type it, but start on the black soulstone quest and get a free zulan kulle after 5nv too.
On August 30 2012 00:59 Zyndrumz wrote: I'm farming act2, and I'm finding rare lvl 63 weapons/armor. Probably not as many as you do in act 3, but they certainly drop. No legendaries though, maybe they just moved those up?
i farmed act 2 a lot last days since i am just starting out. i found 2 really good legendaries. One from a small spider normal mob that is worth about 50m gold at the moment and one of those fire boots with 230 strength but no res all that i sold for real money. So, its just random, all items drop in act 2.
i actually like act 2 a lot more than act 3 for my demon hunter. vault of assassin->sewers 1-2 elites->mines 2 elites->road to a...1-2 elites->oasis 5 elites->desert a few elites. really fast and efficient.
maybe you just ofrgot to type it, but start on the black soulstone quest and get a free zulan kulle after 5nv too.
dont you have to do the shadow realm for that? i never tried it, maybe its worth it. Ill make a few runs with that.
On August 30 2012 00:23 Burrfoot wrote: The real question is how to interpret the patch note:
"Legendary Sets: All item level 61 set pieces have been increased to item level 63 (excluding rings and amulets), and had their base item changed from late hell/early inferno to late inferno."
To mean that all legendaries 63 can only drop in Act3/4 or just the base item being Archon. I haven't gotten a single 63 to drop in any act, so I wouldn't know.
their base item is the archon armor
they follow the same drop rules as all other items.
On August 30 2012 00:23 Burrfoot wrote: The real question is how to interpret the patch note:
"Legendary Sets: All item level 61 set pieces have been increased to item level 63 (excluding rings and amulets), and had their base item changed from late hell/early inferno to late inferno."
To mean that all legendaries 63 can only drop in Act3/4 or just the base item being Archon. I haven't gotten a single 63 to drop in any act, so I wouldn't know.
What do you mean you havent gotten a single 63 to drop in any act? That is impossible? I used to run Act2 VOTAs and ilvl63s drops a lot.
I get plenty of 63 rares - Az just dropped 7 rares, 3 of which were 63s, but all crap as usual! Of course my bro joins my game for 5 min as I'm just looking for packs and get a Stormcrow and logs. /wrists.
On August 30 2012 00:59 Zyndrumz wrote: I'm farming act2, and I'm finding rare lvl 63 weapons/armor. Probably not as many as you do in act 3, but they certainly drop. No legendaries though, maybe they just moved those up?
i farmed act 2 a lot last days since i am just starting out. i found 2 really good legendaries. One from a small spider normal mob that is worth about 50m gold at the moment and one of those fire boots with 230 strength but no res all that i sold for real money. So, its just random, all items drop in act 2.
i actually like act 2 a lot more than act 3 for my demon hunter. vault of assassin->sewers 1-2 elites->mines 2 elites->road to a...1-2 elites->oasis 5 elites->desert a few elites. really fast and efficient.
maybe you just ofrgot to type it, but start on the black soulstone quest and get a free zulan kulle after 5nv too.
The problem with that is that your checkpoint changes when you do zultan kulle. Then, for your next run you have to seek out the vault in the desolate sands again, which makes the whole run less efficient.
On August 31 2012 03:03 Theifzz wrote: This may sound stupid but i've heard rumours that iLvl 63 Legendaries CANNOT be found in act 2. Can anyone confirm this?
Cant confirm 100% but I have also heard that 63 only drops in act 3 4 or pony
On August 31 2012 03:03 Theifzz wrote: This may sound stupid but i've heard rumours that iLvl 63 Legendaries CANNOT be found in act 2. Can anyone confirm this?
Cant confirm 100% but I have also heard that 63 only drops in act 3 4 or pony
Wrong, 63's drop in Act 1 for sure as well.
Ok, I'm not sure. Rechecked the Legendary I recently found, thought it was 63 but it's not.
Wish someone (or Blizz) could confirm what items if any can only drop in certain Acts. One more plvl and I can farm A2 with 300% mf base or can do A3 with slightly less MF, but honestly I prefer A2 as I don't have to pay attention much and can multitask vs Act 3 if I turn te corner into a bad pack I have to run a mile back.
Anyone on this board find a 63 legendary in act 1/2?
Linking older blue posts or notes means little when the 1.04 added new items into the table and messed with drop rates. They stated normal mobs now have 4x the blue / yellow drops, but not legendary and mentioned the new iLvL 63 sets along with late inferno which is ambiguous at best. So actual confirmation would be nice.
I'd also love some confirmation either way (as to whether 63 legendaries can drop in act 2). When I farm solo I farm act3 np, but I often play with my brother who prefers act 2.. just curious!
dunno whats the fuss about looking exclusively for ilevel63 legendarys, there is some awsome ilevel62s out there too, for example triunvirate, the wd mojo ( cant remember the name even thoughit dropped today) if they have good rolls they are worth a fortune also. mines dropped in act 3 though... but its the only act i farm anyways.
i did hear that leoric ring only drops in act 2, dunno how true that is though.
On September 06 2012 01:42 ximae wrote: dunno whats the fuss about looking exclusively for ilevel63 legendarys, there is some awsome ilevel62s out there too, for example triunvirate, the wd mojo ( cant remember the name even thoughit dropped today) if they have good rolls they are worth a fortune also. mines dropped in act 3 though... but its the only act i farm anyways.
i did hear that leoric ring only drops in act 2, dunno how true that is though.
A2: Vota checkpoint: whatever maps don't bore you. I skipped oasis, waterways, betrayer, ruins, anything after Vota cp. A3: Cy/Az/Seige : whatever maps dont bore you. Not a fan of Level 2s (arreat+barracks) or the stone forts.
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