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wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 09:24:13
November 29 2012 09:22 GMT
#2541
the key to solo'ing siege while your party beats kulle's face is serenity management. keep note of how much each of his attacks do and never panic and waste serenity. for example, the only time i'll ever pop serenity against siege is if his first punch manages to connect on me. if i dodge the first one, i know for a fact that i can't die even if his next two hit. i have 500 more DEX than you, but you're spec'd with dodge mantra so it shouldn't be too different. in fact, you have far more defensive stats than i do, but i have more sustain (900 loh, 2.8% ls, and i have about 35% more paper dps than you). if the reflect is really a problem, just grab a cheap ias/loh amulet specifically for him

another easy thing to do is save your blind for when he does the triple punch thing and just cancel it mid swing. he'll have to cycle through his skills again and your cooldowns should be up by the time he gets to it again. you will have multiple grace periosd where blind is up, so you're effectively lowering your overall DPS by saving it for the right time, but hey, your job is just to stay alive until kulle is dead
zylog
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada943 Posts
November 29 2012 10:11 GMT
#2542
On November 29 2012 16:17 Samba wrote:
Alright, since nobody else seems to need some help, i´m just gonna put my monk up for discussion.
Currently i can comfortably farm MP7 ubers with a barb in our group, on MP8 the Siegebreaker is the problem, i just can´t tank him alone as the reflect plus his triple-attack brings me down slowly.
So how would you guys go on from here to increase the MP? Seems like everthing just costs a fortune from here on and i´m only sitting at 25 mio atm. I was thinking about getting a nice Inna´s chest when i got the money as the melee reduction gives me a pretty nice ehp buff and i got a decent mempo i could switch then to without losing the set-bonus.
Any input is appreciated.

Char
buffed: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Samba-1157/hero/50295

unbuffed: http://d3up.com/b/82966


Would you be opposed to getting a lifesteal skorn? The base damage range is around double that of your current weapons, and this will make your cyclones hit that much harder. After casting sweeping wind, you can switch back to your current weapons or whatever you want. This should be able to get you to mp10 ubers.
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
November 29 2012 17:13 GMT
#2543
On November 29 2012 18:22 wooozy wrote:
the key to solo'ing siege while your party beats kulle's face is serenity management. keep note of how much each of his attacks do and never panic and waste serenity. for example, the only time i'll ever pop serenity against siege is if his first punch manages to connect on me. if i dodge the first one, i know for a fact that i can't die even if his next two hit. i have 500 more DEX than you, but you're spec'd with dodge mantra so it shouldn't be too different. in fact, you have far more defensive stats than i do, but i have more sustain (900 loh, 2.8% ls, and i have about 35% more paper dps than you). if the reflect is really a problem, just grab a cheap ias/loh amulet specifically for him

another easy thing to do is save your blind for when he does the triple punch thing and just cancel it mid swing. he'll have to cycle through his skills again and your cooldowns should be up by the time he gets to it again. you will have multiple grace periosd where blind is up, so you're effectively lowering your overall DPS by saving it for the right time, but hey, your job is just to stay alive until kulle is dead


Yeah, i already noticed this on MP7, the cooldown management really makes the difference, but i still feel like it´s not enough. Granted we only did MP8 once now and got him barely after his enrage was activated. I would like to go for overawe as well to help my DD´s. We definitly need to upgrade our dmg-output, last time i had SB down to 1/4 hp till they finally killed kulle, lol...

On November 29 2012 19:11 zylog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 16:17 Samba wrote:
Alright, since nobody else seems to need some help, i´m just gonna put my monk up for discussion.
Currently i can comfortably farm MP7 ubers with a barb in our group, on MP8 the Siegebreaker is the problem, i just can´t tank him alone as the reflect plus his triple-attack brings me down slowly.
So how would you guys go on from here to increase the MP? Seems like everthing just costs a fortune from here on and i´m only sitting at 25 mio atm. I was thinking about getting a nice Inna´s chest when i got the money as the melee reduction gives me a pretty nice ehp buff and i got a decent mempo i could switch then to without losing the set-bonus.
Any input is appreciated.

Char
buffed: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Samba-1157/hero/50295

unbuffed: http://d3up.com/b/82966


Would you be opposed to getting a lifesteal skorn? The base damage range is around double that of your current weapons, and this will make your cyclones hit that much harder. After casting sweeping wind, you can switch back to your current weapons or whatever you want. This should be able to get you to mp10 ubers.


After seeing your little demo i could definitly imagine giving this a try, wouldn´t have thought that it makes THAT big of a difference.
But like i said i only got 25 mio atm and i´m not sure if i shouldn´t focus on other slots first. I want MORE dex!
RIP Geoff “iNcontroL" Robinson, September 11, 1985 - July 20, 2019
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
November 29 2012 20:27 GMT
#2544
Warmonger with crit dmg / dex might be easier to find than a LS Skorn for cheap. But the speed isn't ideal.

Personally, I'm using a socketed rare Mace with crit dmg / life steal / dex that I actually found, but last I checked rares like this aren't expensive at all (I use Rawr's detailed dps calculator to compare damage / tornado; but any dps calculator that gives you avg hit damage will work too).

Then again, FitL makes the snapshot get all weird, so be sure to use a 2hander that has a significantly higher base damage otherwise it might actually be a downgrade.
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
November 29 2012 20:59 GMT
#2545
Another easier way to stay alive is to wear a nice shield with high crit chance/block chance, and have a life steal weapon in the main slot. Then again the highest MP I've done is 7 so I'm not sure if this is helpful.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 21:18:25
November 29 2012 21:17 GMT
#2546
ops, sorry.
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
November 30 2012 03:06 GMT
#2547
Well, found a cheap amulett on the AH with 900LOH, but it costs me 10k dps, so it isn´t really optimal. Worked like a charm though on MP6, even without a barb Siege couldn´t touch me at all. So i guess if i find a good amulett this could be a good direction. I think otherwise i´m just gonna try to increase my dps for some vit to get more life per sec. Any specific gear advise? Is everyone just running Inna´s chest?
RIP Geoff “iNcontroL" Robinson, September 11, 1985 - July 20, 2019
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 04:41:54
November 30 2012 04:41 GMT
#2548
On November 30 2012 12:06 Samba wrote:
Well, found a cheap amulett on the AH with 900LOH, but it costs me 10k dps, so it isn´t really optimal. Worked like a charm though on MP6, even without a barb Siege couldn´t touch me at all. So i guess if i find a good amulett this could be a good direction. I think otherwise i´m just gonna try to increase my dps for some vit to get more life per sec. Any specific gear advise? Is everyone just running Inna´s chest?


I run blackthorn's, I like the additional resists/vit. The damage drop is about 70-80 dex worth. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Confuse-1392/hero/4470788 for an example. Plus later you can get a nice roll on a blackthorne's amulet for the 100 vit set bonus. Just my preference
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
November 30 2012 05:29 GMT
#2549
On November 30 2012 13:41 Confuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 12:06 Samba wrote:
Well, found a cheap amulett on the AH with 900LOH, but it costs me 10k dps, so it isn´t really optimal. Worked like a charm though on MP6, even without a barb Siege couldn´t touch me at all. So i guess if i find a good amulett this could be a good direction. I think otherwise i´m just gonna try to increase my dps for some vit to get more life per sec. Any specific gear advise? Is everyone just running Inna´s chest?


I run blackthorn's, I like the additional resists/vit. The damage drop is about 70-80 dex worth. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Confuse-1392/hero/4470788 for an example. Plus later you can get a nice roll on a blackthorne's amulet for the 100 vit set bonus. Just my preference


Yeah, i briefly took a look at it, usually i like having a rather defensive chest to go more offensive on the other slots.
Btw could you maybe post a pic of your monk, i´ve never seen the look of blackthorn´s on a male monk and seeing as pretty much all other chests look just terrible, this might affect my choice.
RIP Geoff “iNcontroL" Robinson, September 11, 1985 - July 20, 2019
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 06:17:01
November 30 2012 06:13 GMT
#2550
[image loading]

i think black goes okay with blue. Of course inna's is prettier though
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
November 30 2012 06:44 GMT
#2551
Well that looks way better than those silly blue balls on Inna´s, but the melee reduction is probably more useful... Thx, gonna have to take a look at the price differences between them.
RIP Geoff “iNcontroL" Robinson, September 11, 1985 - July 20, 2019
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
November 30 2012 12:51 GMT
#2552
np, wow i never noticed that before when i was wearing inna's piece before. Now I can't unsee it... thanks : P
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
December 01 2012 03:45 GMT
#2553
Whoops, sorry about that...didn´t mean to ruin practically every good chest there is for you...
Well, luckily you got that Blackthorn!
I took a look at both Inna´s and Blackthorn´s, but can´t decide yet. Blackthorn seems to be way cheaper and looks way better, Inna´s can roll nicer stats and give the set bonus, but high Vit on them is unbelievable expensive. Meh...
RIP Geoff “iNcontroL" Robinson, September 11, 1985 - July 20, 2019
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 04:10:11
December 01 2012 04:07 GMT
#2554
edit: oops nevermind
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
December 01 2012 05:44 GMT
#2555
Yea I was really annoyed at the terrible looking chests (few pages back) but finally caved and went with 4pc Inna's when I went all-in on the Tailwind farming build. I've gotten used to these balls. Sweaty blue balls.

(4pc Inna's, Shenlongs, Vile Ward, Sage's Gesture, Firewalkers)
[image loading]
^ Monkball Z!
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
December 02 2012 05:20 GMT
#2556
Ok, decided to not be a little girl and go for Inna´s, i just like the stats more.
And besides that, did i say Blackthorne´s is cheaper?! Scratch that, to get one that matches the Dex and the life% on Inna´s you have to pay at least 65mio on EU as far as i can tell. Oo
RIP Geoff “iNcontroL" Robinson, September 11, 1985 - July 20, 2019
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
December 03 2012 10:17 GMT
#2557
On December 02 2012 14:20 Samba wrote:
Ok, decided to not be a little girl and go for Inna´s, i just like the stats more.
And besides that, did i say Blackthorne´s is cheaper?! Scratch that, to get one that matches the Dex and the life% on Inna´s you have to pay at least 65mio on EU as far as i can tell. Oo


Yeah; I paid 30 mill for mine on US and it has a lower dex roll. Still I like it a lot more, it helps me out a lot defensively with the all res/arcane res/vit rolls. I wear inna's hat/pants for the dex bonus there, so I think its fine.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 06:12:55
December 04 2012 06:11 GMT
#2558
On December 03 2012 19:17 Confuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 14:20 Samba wrote:
Ok, decided to not be a little girl and go for Inna´s, i just like the stats more.
And besides that, did i say Blackthorne´s is cheaper?! Scratch that, to get one that matches the Dex and the life% on Inna´s you have to pay at least 65mio on EU as far as i can tell. Oo


Yeah; I paid 30 mill for mine on US and it has a lower dex roll. Still I like it a lot more, it helps me out a lot defensively with the all res/arcane res/vit rolls. I wear inna's hat/pants for the dex bonus there, so I think its fine.


Fine....you finally convinced me, i did go with Blackthorn´s.
At first i thought i could keep my main res source on shoulders and belt, but after trying a lot of combos on d3up the defensive chest opens more possibilities for the other slots. I´m gonna try the witching hour of my wiz, doesn´t have dex on it, but my res and it still gives 9k dps increase. And for higher MP i still got my old 170vit, 120 res belt.
Man, i feel like a headless chicken after days of back and forth...but i´m glad i don´t have to wear the smurf balls around my neck!
RIP Geoff “iNcontroL" Robinson, September 11, 1985 - July 20, 2019
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
December 04 2012 06:30 GMT
#2559
On December 04 2012 15:11 Samba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 19:17 Confuse wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:20 Samba wrote:
Ok, decided to not be a little girl and go for Inna´s, i just like the stats more.
And besides that, did i say Blackthorne´s is cheaper?! Scratch that, to get one that matches the Dex and the life% on Inna´s you have to pay at least 65mio on EU as far as i can tell. Oo


Yeah; I paid 30 mill for mine on US and it has a lower dex roll. Still I like it a lot more, it helps me out a lot defensively with the all res/arcane res/vit rolls. I wear inna's hat/pants for the dex bonus there, so I think its fine.


Fine....you finally convinced me, i did go with Blackthorn´s.
At first i thought i could keep my main res source on shoulders and belt, but after trying a lot of combos on d3up the defensive chest opens more possibilities for the other slots. I´m gonna try the witching hour of my wiz, doesn´t have dex on it, but my res and it still gives 9k dps increase. And for higher MP i still got my old 170vit, 120 res belt.
Man, i feel like a headless chicken after days of back and forth...but i´m glad i don´t have to wear the smurf balls around my neck!


haha, there are plenty of builds for both, it's just my preference. Hope it works out for you
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
December 04 2012 06:58 GMT
#2560
I´m not too worried, it´s just a money question after all, right?!
But thanks too everyone for their input!
RIP Geoff “iNcontroL" Robinson, September 11, 1985 - July 20, 2019
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