EPTI also just gave up and downgraded my gloves just to use all legendary/set so its easier to tell if I id crap too fast and equip it.
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Burrfoot
United States1176 Posts
I also just gave up and downgraded my gloves just to use all legendary/set so its easier to tell if I id crap too fast and equip it. | ||
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Confuse
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FosTA
Canada154 Posts
I'm using a monk as my main and believe I have done a good job so far, but I feel like I'm missing something. I just tried my luck out on a Skorn but found that it has very low DPS 1.29 but a higher base dmg 70k. I also have 2 one handers that have 1.9dps but a lower base dmg of 50k unbuff. If anyone can guide me in the direction that would be very helpful. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/LgNFosTA-1652/hero/3811714 Thank you | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
On November 19 2012 23:18 FosTA wrote: Hello, I'm using a monk as my main and believe I have done a good job so far, but I feel like I'm missing something. I just tried my luck out on a Skorn but found that it has very low DPS 1.29 but a higher base dmg 70k. I also have 2 one handers that have 1.9dps but a lower base dmg of 50k unbuff. If anyone can guide me in the direction that would be very helpful. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/LgNFosTA-1652/hero/3811714 Thank you You are missing crit chance, 11.5% is really low. Try to get about thirty at least. Your right ring and bracers can easily give you 13% or so very cheap! | ||
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wooozy
3813 Posts
how much gold do you have to work with? i've built plenty of monk sets for people ranging from all budgets also, why are you using OWE. all your gears give all resists except your bracers. you're wasting a passive slot for +35 all resists? | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On November 19 2012 10:10 wooozy wrote: yeah pretty much. sweeping wind's damage goes off your damage at the point of cast, so ideally you'll want to equip a strong 2h weapon (usually skorn or a flying dragon after proc), cast all your buffs, then cast your sweeping winds. that sweeping winds will permanently keep (or "snapshot") that damage so you'll want to keep it up for as long as possible. side note: recasting sweeping winds before it goes down will refresh it with the snapshotted damage. a lot easier with 4p inna's because it will only cost 5 spirit, but easily doable without it's more of a gimmicky mp10 uber killing strat. i know of some monks who buy a budget defensive set and utilize snapshotted sweeping winds to farm higher MP, but it's hardly worth it when you can just do a ton of fast mp0-3 runs for more exp and arguably more loot personally i never bother snapshotting with a 2h because i'm lazy. blazing wrath/blind/scoundrel buff is enough for me To expand on this: the following gets snapshotted by your sweeping winds: Attack speed (the frequency of the damage ticks) Weapon damage (the size of the ticks) Crit chance / Crit damage (although I forget now if SW can even crit; too many numbers on my screen) *life steal* I've been abusing the last one whenever I see a reflect damage mob; I'll run away and snapshot with my 2h lifesteal weapon then come back and fight. Also, good to remember: Faith in the Light scales with attack speed, so you don't always get the most damage snapshotting a 2h weapon. As for the Sledgefist trick; I never understood it myself; why bother when you could just spec Scorpion Sting and literally kick the crap out of ubers? I guess that means you can't use EP, WoL, SSS or w/e, but those barely do damage with a Sledgefist anyways. | ||
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wooozy
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Wuster
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Burrfoot
United States1176 Posts
Snapshot DAMAGE components: - Active weapon damage per hit. - Dexterity - Critical hit damage increase - Adds X% to ELEMENT Damage - ELEMENT skills deal X% more damage. - Sweeping Wind Damage by X% - Life Steal - Blinding Flash - Faith in the Light - Breath of Heaven - Blazing Wrath's Dynamic Damage components: - Attacks per second - Critical hit chance And everything is so logical.. The snapshot components are namely the things that practically compose the DAMAGE part of the "dps" concept. The dynamic components are the factors that say when or if it will be applied, building the PER SECOND part of the "dps" approximation concept. So the optimal way to abuse this is to max the first part, buff up, cast sweeping, then swap to ias/crit gear. Of course, MP0 is so easy you can do whatever way suits you best. I like punching vs twirling personally :-) | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
SW has been conclusively proven to scale with your current crit chance. Since it's snapshotting every other component of your dps; I see no reason why this one component would be an exception: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4551990465 The same logic applies to attack speed; SW has also been proven to scale with attack speed: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4551990465 You are right though that the proc-rate on cyclones *does* depend on your active set up (namely how often you crit, so current attacks/second + crit hit chance). But those things are also used by the sweeping wind damage itself and I have no reason to believe they aren't snapshotted. Further confirmation: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7179258434#6 (also confirms my suspision that SW crits show up as white numbers like EP crits). | ||
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zylog
Canada943 Posts
On November 20 2012 03:12 Wuster wrote: To expand on this: the following gets snapshotted by your sweeping winds: Attack speed (the frequency of the damage ticks) Weapon damage (the size of the ticks) Crit chance / Crit damage (although I forget now if SW can even crit; too many numbers on my screen) *life steal* I've been abusing the last one whenever I see a reflect damage mob; I'll run away and snapshot with my 2h lifesteal weapon then come back and fight. Also, good to remember: Faith in the Light scales with attack speed, so you don't always get the most damage snapshotting a 2h weapon. As for the Sledgefist trick; I never understood it myself; why bother when you could just spec Scorpion Sting and literally kick the crap out of ubers? I guess that means you can't use EP, WoL, SSS or w/e, but those barely do damage with a Sledgefist anyways. The way that I do is it to put on gear with - high dex - +dmg - crit damage - SOJ for elite damage - sweeping wind damage I wear the above for the snapshot, some IAS would be nice too to improve Faith in the Light, but I don't make it as much of a priority because I'm too cheap. With so much damage stacked on your cyclones, it's possible to take down Azmodan mp10 with just a white 1.8 APS dagger and a sledgefist (this isn't ideal, it was just for fun/experimenting). The sledge fist itself is rather nice in that it stuns and provides +APS for your other hand so you can generate cyclones extremely quickly. | ||
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Samba
Germany452 Posts
And on a side note: Has anyone played around with the additional FoT damage on Inna´s Radiance? I just saw one with 12%, wouldn´t that be a crazy dps increase, especially with a WKL? | ||
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wooozy
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Samba
Germany452 Posts
But i think i should be a good increase. | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
On November 20 2012 03:12 wooozy wrote: well technically his crit chance is 16.5, but that's still low. also, bracers should not be his first upgrade. the lacunis are what puts him at 24% move speed which is crucial for efficient farming imo. at the moment, crit chance should be coming from ring/amulet/glove. unfortunately he's sorta gimped because none of his inna's pieces give any resists, nor does his shoulders so losing the AR from his jewelry/gloves is gonna hurt him how much gold do you have to work with? i've built plenty of monk sets for people ranging from all budgets also, why are you using OWE. all your gears give all resists except your bracers. you're wasting a passive slot for +35 all resists? Woops, where I said bracers, I meant gloves of course! Confused the two @ fosta, I would go for a high crit chance on the gloves, look for a ring with dex and crit chance to replace your strength ring and upgrade your shoulders to include AR. You could give up a bit of vit in trade-offs... | ||
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zylog
Canada943 Posts
On November 20 2012 15:21 Samba wrote: But it snapshots the overall LS you have, not only when my LS weapon is active in the moment i snapshot, right? And on a side note: Has anyone played around with the additional FoT damage on Inna´s Radiance? I just saw one with 12%, wouldn´t that be a crazy dps increase, especially with a WKL? My friend and I tested this out the other day. Snapshotting with a non-lifesteal skorn led to high damage but poor survivability. So, we went and bought a lifesteal skorn, and now my friend can tank mp10 no problem. Therefore, it seems that the lifesteal of the cyclones is dependent on having lifesteal when snapshotting, having lifesteal on your dual wield setup only steals life from FOT, in which case LOH might be a better option there. | ||
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Derrida
2885 Posts
On November 21 2012 08:55 zylog wrote: My friend and I tested this out the other day. Snapshotting with a non-lifesteal skorn led to high damage but poor survivability. So, we went and bought a lifesteal skorn, and now my friend can tank mp10 no problem. Therefore, it seems that the lifesteal of the cyclones is dependent on having lifesteal when snapshotting, having lifesteal on your dual wield setup only steals life from FOT, in which case LOH might be a better option there. sorry, I couldn't understand that part. could you expand? Also your previous comment about +APS giving your offhand more swings? Does +APS work like that? | ||
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wooozy
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Derrida
2885 Posts
On November 21 2012 09:49 wooozy wrote: yeah, APS applies to both hands. that's one of the main reasons echoing fury is one of the best weapons Oh shit, now you tell me  In that case, time to drop WKL I guess. | ||
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wooozy
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