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wooozy
3813 Posts
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Burrfoot
United States1176 Posts
On November 08 2012 03:22 Dacendoran wrote: I'm thinking about selling my barb (around 400 m) to make I a monk for farming low MPs door around that price mark do monks clear as fast as ww barb? The gear seems much cheaper Problem with Monk prices, is that any item that DH's would want as well gets priced up accordingly. But items that are only Monk - like Inna's Radiance, can be had for a great bargain compared to comparable items. If you want to farm low MPs at the same speed as a WW barb, that would mean you'd want to be Tempest Rush - Tailwind spec of your preference which either means you will likely go 2h. I personally like dual wielding, so have to compensate by using more spirit regen than a more standard 2h Tailwind build. My Monk (link in my sig) can clear MP0 Act 3 & MP1 A1/2 at 60% movement speed with no desire to upgrade my dps/resist/armor to survive MP2 or above with this build until Blizz increases the rewards for higher MP levels. I cashed out all my "RMAH-worthy' gear and what I have left is by my estimation worth slightly under 40m to buy today. Helm - Inna's Radiance with Spirit Regen + Pickup = 2m Shoulders - < 200 dex Dex Vile Ward with resist + mf = 5m Neck - Rare with Crit, dex, mf = 1m, or a Xeph Amulet with 2+ spirit = 1m Chest - Inna's Vast Expanse with resist = 10m Gloves - Low dex + trifecta = 5m Bracers = Lacuni's with resis, dex = 2m Ring 1 - SoJ with 2+ spirit regen = 2m Ring 2 - Hellfire Ring = repair bill Pants - Blackthorne's with dex, resist = 5m Boots - Firewalkers with dex, vit = 2m Weapon 1 - 950 dps Shenlong with spirit regen = 3m Weapon 2 - 950 dps Shenlong with spirit regen = 3m 1300 dps Dex skorns go for ~2m now? If you want life leech it will be at least 10m I'd think. Overall, I think low level farming efficency between Monk and Barb is fairly even as the minimum requirement to clear MP0 is very low and the gear to meet that very cheap, but as I've read some barb comments, they actually don't want to insta-gib mobs in one hit so that they nadoes can regen more fury. Monks don't have this requirement. | ||
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Confuse
2238 Posts
here is my profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Confuse-1392/hero/4470788 please teach me how to do mp0 act 3 runs faster! | ||
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Blix
Netherlands873 Posts
On November 08 2012 22:38 Confuse wrote: Why is 2hd weapon better for tailwind? Is it because of the passive spirit gen bonus? I find even though MP0 is quite easy, i can't sacrifice one with everything (Other two specs are fleet foot/exalted soul) to clear it. Even then my speed is around 20-25 minutes a run which is 1/2 the speed of the barb runs. What am I doing wrong? : / here is my profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Confuse-1392/hero/4470788 please teach me how to do mp0 act 3 runs faster! The passive spirit regen is one, but also the spirit consumption scales with weapon speed, so with a slow weap you need less regen to keep running | ||
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Confuse
2238 Posts
On November 09 2012 01:42 Blix wrote: The passive spirit regen is one, but also the spirit consumption scales with weapon speed, so with a slow weap you need less regen to keep running Oh.... I see. Would it be worth it to shell out money for a skorn? is it that much faster? | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On November 09 2012 04:42 Confuse wrote: Oh.... I see. Would it be worth it to shell out money for a skorn? is it that much faster? Dual wield uses 50+% more spirit than a skorn. Dex skorns are relatively cheap if you want to get one without LS or LoH. Make sure you get one without a AS bonus. My 1407 179CD Skorn was 4 mil for reference. Because of the way spirit expenditure works, if you can get the spirit spent down to somewhere below 5 per second, you can TR for a very, very long time if you manage spirit well. | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
I'm currently at Belial in Inferno and it is the first real plateau I've met. He one shots me and the fact that you need to kill the bosses in 1 run has stopped my progress. Can someone give me any suggestions on my gear? I have no idea concerning builds and I just bought what felt right, without any particular knowledge. Thanks! http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HolyBreath-2656/hero/15515619 | ||
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Taryssa
United States1628 Posts
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AHero
China12 Posts
I'm kinda new to the forums and all... well new to posting at least... I've been reading up for ages and just recently started getting back into D3, I'm a casual gamer so I don't have great gear... I was wondering you guys could help me out with recommendations on what to upgrade first and what should I be looking for gear wise... I've gone through Inferno with him but anything past MP1 is really tough... takes a long time to kill things and I'm sort of stuck. Thanks! http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ApricotHero-1267/hero/3809820 | ||
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Derrida
2885 Posts
On November 10 2012 04:07 AHero wrote: Uh... Hi guys... I'm kinda new to the forums and all... well new to posting at least... I've been reading up for ages and just recently started getting back into D3, I'm a casual gamer so I don't have great gear... I was wondering you guys could help me out with recommendations on what to upgrade first and what should I be looking for gear wise... I've gone through Inferno with him but anything past MP1 is really tough... takes a long time to kill things and I'm sort of stuck. Thanks! http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ApricotHero-1267/hero/3809820 Your monk is waaaaaaay too defensive at the moment. You need to start stacking crit-critdmg gear and you need significantly more dexterity. I'd suggest getting a cheap inna's radiance (physical resist ones are especially cheap), upgrade your left ring, get a pant with dex (meanwhile socket it with dex), get shoulders with dex, and socket your weapons with emeralds. You can drop your resists to 700ish while doing these upgrades. Since I don't know your budget I can't be more precise with the upgrade suggestions. Oh and, with such a low dex, Seize the Initiative is kinda pointless to use for a meager 500 armor. You could pick something else in line with your preferences. You have too much HP as well (if theres such a thing as too much HP), I can clear mp6 with 30k hp, but I'd say you'd be safe at near 40k. Since your headpiece will have a socket, you can socket it for %life and drop vitality from other items. | ||
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AHero
China12 Posts
Got it, I've got roughly 6m right now... So is higher dex more important or should I focus on getting more crit-critdmg gear? When I get off work, I'll go try to start reworking it. So I don't need to focus that much on vit huh... I remember I used to have such a hard time with inferno... so I had a tried to build super tanky to not die... After starting to play again it got a lot easier... so I didn't bother much with changing.. but after seeing everyone else's crazy stats I wanted to start making my character buffer... that and I went into MP10 just to see what it was like and it was scary. So Inna's Radiance and the dex on the items... what's a good number to look for given that I'm not the richest monk in the world... like 150 or so on each piece with slots? Again thanks a bunch for the help! | ||
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HolydaKing
21253 Posts
That being said, 50k hp is a bit much. I have 35k hp now and it's enough for me to survive Mp3 fairly easy. I'd say 600-700 all res is enough too if you have decent LoH. You'll need a mix of everything. You should probably not spend too much on one item, but rather upgrade every spot for cheap at first. Only upgrading your crit damage won't upgrade your DPS by that much. I'd start with new weapons, you don't need two with LoH. There are plenty cheap and good weapons on the AH, although you might want to take some time for buying to get cheap deals. It's probably a good idea to get one with 800-900 LoH and decent damage and one with high damage and perhaps critical damage, just don't spend too much so you can still get other things. | ||
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paschl
Germany666 Posts
On November 09 2012 01:42 Blix wrote: The passive spirit regen is one, but also the spirit consumption scales with weapon speed, so with a slow weap you need less regen to keep running Ive been farming for a Leorics Signet the last 48h and since i was using TR to get it i want to use it in my regular farming. The speed is just amazing. Now ive done a little testing, i usually dual wield with ~64k dps unbuffed. Alkaizer run takes ages (well, compared to barbs) because of the slow movespeed. So while trying to integrate TR i came up with this: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QfF8n.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fAJ9E.png) (yeah im broke aorn but thats the life of someone whos trying to make money off the ah :p) oh and i have 8% MS, yeah it sucks but im still waiting to find good deals on ice climbers/innas pants I basically use Tempest rush just to close the distances between Enemy packs and a little infight maneuverability. The damage itself is pityful but it makes the runs way faster. It also makes Sweeping wind with Inner Storm last forever. Since i read your post i tried out the 1464 Skorn i bought for resale and while it does lower the TR spirit spending/lift the DPS it also greatly extends the time i need to build up my spirit through FoT. Im not sure if its really worth it tbh. How much DPS do i need to actually use TR to kill stuff? Or will it always just be used for faster travel between packs? | ||
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wooozy
3813 Posts
also i don't think you need chant of resonance especially if you're using inner storm. switch that for fleet footed. if you're having trouble with spirit, just go pick up a spirit regen inna's radiance for like 200k | ||
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Burrfoot
United States1176 Posts
I run with 12.91 spirit regen with Templar, 16.27 with 3 stacks of inner storm. Can notice the difference in spirit consumption depending on if my (faster) MH or (slower) OH is active when going long distances. I tried 7-sided for a little but decided it wasn't worth it since TR+low MP meant half the time 7-sided was still on CD by the time I got to the next pack. So i went Air-Ally and put a Skycutter + Puzzle Ring on the Templar to run around with a mini-army while farming. I am always amused when the 3 npcs kill the puzzle-summoned goblin by themselves since for some reason they have less HP than a normal goblin.. probably a level 61 -_-. Army of (mp)One: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mpWg9s.jpg) | ||
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Derrida
2885 Posts
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Asukurra
United Kingdom50 Posts
I'm new to Monks, about to make my first one now, so I don't need any specific advice yet as I wont be 60 for a few days yet I was just wondering about how to play Monks 'correctly' as all their damage things seam to be low damage AOE things, so I'm assuming from what I've read here it is build a Tanky character using the all resist ability and just stack DEX and a high DPS weapon for the damage to clear all things at the same time? Any general advice would be helpful and a general idea on what skills would be helpful to get me to 60 and beyond would be nice  TL:DR Casual new Diablo player looking for a how to play Monk Asu | ||
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Confuse
2238 Posts
On November 11 2012 00:18 Burrfoot wrote: For reference for dual wielding (I use Shenlongs). With ~2 attack persecond, TR uses ~16 spirit/sec. 2h spirit consumption is probably ~7/sec depending on aps. I still prefer DW due to FoTing most stuff, but like Shenlongs due to its nice balance of stats - the LPSS while TRing is essentially 600+ hp/sec, and the 0.33 spirit regen helps! Shooting fireballs and moving faster then them is fun too. I run with 12.91 spirit regen with Templar, 16.27 with 3 stacks of inner storm. Can notice the difference in spirit consumption depending on if my (faster) MH or (slower) OH is active when going long distances. I tried 7-sided for a little but decided it wasn't worth it since TR+low MP meant half the time 7-sided was still on CD by the time I got to the next pack. So i went Air-Ally and put a Skycutter + Puzzle Ring on the Templar to run around with a mini-army while farming. I am always amused when the 3 npcs kill the puzzle-summoned goblin by themselves since for some reason they have less HP than a normal goblin.. probably a level 61 -_-. Army of (mp)One: Do you find air ally to be faster then sss? also, do you recommend the goblin proc? does it have decent drops? | ||
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Burrfoot
United States1176 Posts
On November 12 2012 02:49 Asukurra wrote: Hello everyone I'm new to Monks, about to make my first one now, so I don't need any specific advice yet as I wont be 60 for a few days yet I was just wondering about how to play Monks 'correctly' as all their damage things seam to be low damage AOE things, so I'm assuming from what I've read here it is build a Tanky character using the all resist ability and just stack DEX and a high DPS weapon for the damage to clear all things at the same time? Any general advice would be helpful and a general idea on what skills would be helpful to get me to 60 and beyond would be nice TL:DR Casual new Diablo player looking for a how to play Monk Asu I say just play the way you want! If you use the AH, any skills taht use crit can be much better than when you learned them, and most of our spirit generator are perfectly viable for 'No Monster Power'. First run thru, Id concentrate on some attack speed, life on hit, and stack a resist you like with One with Everything. If you must do the cookie cutter build, then it starts with Fists of Thunder: Thunderclap D-; We don't have many builds that have really good synergy with like other classes so the "correct" way to play is pretty boring. | ||
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Burrfoot
United States1176 Posts
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