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Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
June 14 2012 00:31 GMT
#1861
I really need to make my mind between 1h+shield or 2h... I keep switching from one to the other and bidding on items for both specs at the AH instead of just saving my money for just one spec.
LancerJ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States160 Posts
June 14 2012 02:34 GMT
#1862
On June 14 2012 07:02 tuho12345 wrote:
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Just found this 2 days ago, how helpful is this to barb? Any one can pricecheck or offer me? Thanks

I bought a similar set of shoulders + Show Spoiler +
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2 weeks ago for 1.5mil. Today the same shoulders would sell for 2.5mil or so. A 3mil buyout would be fair for your shoulders due to the 81 intelligence, which is valued similar to +81 armor or +8 all resist.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
June 14 2012 02:36 GMT
#1863
On June 14 2012 11:34 LancerJ wrote:
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On June 14 2012 07:02 tuho12345 wrote:
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Just found this 2 days ago, how helpful is this to barb? Any one can pricecheck or offer me? Thanks

I bought a similar set of shoulders + Show Spoiler +
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2 weeks ago for 1.5mil. Today the same shoulders would sell for 2.5mil or so. A 3mil buyout would be fair for your shoulders due to the 81 intelligence, which is valued similar to +81 armor or +8 all resist.

Thanks for the advice, any barb would like to buy it plz pm me, only sell it for 2.8 mil for tax discount. Or add me at hitman133#1914, US softcore.
WaZ
Profile Joined December 2010
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 03:11:48
June 14 2012 03:00 GMT
#1864
sry doublepost
WaZ
Profile Joined December 2010
United States108 Posts
June 14 2012 03:10 GMT
#1865
sorry i know this is a kinda complex question but i am frustratingly bad at this game T_T i have pretty decent control which makes up for my gear slightly but it can only do so much so at this point i am planning on selling every item im not in love with and starting over buying what i can i was wondering if you guys could tell me what i did so wrong, what you think i should keep, and what i should focus on in the ah and also if i should spend all the money i can on like 1-2 good items and then just make due with the rest until i can upgrade or what xD sorry just if anyone has free time thanks!
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Legion710
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 03:16:27
June 14 2012 03:14 GMT
#1866
On June 14 2012 12:10 WaZ wrote:
sorry i know this is a kinda complex question but i am frustratingly bad at this game T_T i have pretty decent control which makes up for my gear slightly but it can only do so much so at this point i am planning on selling every item im not in love with and starting over buying what i can i was wondering if you guys could tell me what i did so wrong, what you think i should keep, and what i should focus on in the ah and also if i should spend all the money i can on like 1-2 good items and then just make due with the rest until i can upgrade or what xD sorry just if anyone has free time thanks!
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You have shit for strength. You need like 1000+. Your shield has shit block too. You need to balance str and vit and resist. Try going for 800 resist 1000 str and like 45k + hp

Your gear is just pretty bad overall. Keep farming and making money and buy better gear. You have like 30 str 30 vit on some pieces.. which is quite pathetic. You can't sacrifice THAT much stats for AR. It's better to have something like 120/80 main stats and lower AR.
Tyrion Lannister
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 14 2012 04:16 GMT
#1867
I think you've committed too much to some of the cute legendaries, when, for the most part, they provide supplemental benefits that only really become good after you've got a solid amount of the basics.

In this case, you need to focus more on your armor/resistances. A1/A2 are mostly about getting those 2 stats up to par.

Armor and resistances need to be balanced. The optimal balance point is something like 10xResist = Armor, with a little wiggle room for buffs/passives. I'd recommend swapping Inspiring Presence for Tough as Nails. The 25% bonus armor is much more significant than the 1% life regen. Realistically, your sustainability should be coming from Revenge in A1, and supplemented with Life on Hit as you progress into higher acts.
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TooL
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada275 Posts
June 14 2012 06:44 GMT
#1868
okay, bow is selling for 50m tomorrow

i'm looking to create a 2h barb with pretty decent sustain. i just had a glass cannon DH with 110k unbuffed DPS and am looking to play a more durable DPS role. since i would have to regear my DH entirely to do that I decided to gear out a barb instead.

i know 2h barb isn't fully explored at this point, but does anyone have any ideas on key pieces? i don't want to be a 2 minute cooldown bot. (well, i am totally down to kill elite packs in 5 seconds, if it's not at the expense of my character getting owned by white mobs). I already explored briefly with using a shield while rounding up mobs and then switching to a 2h but that is annoying as hell with the current UI.

i'm going to be building this character to beat the game before patch 1.03 comes out (with 5 stack, no skipping), but also with the realization that the game will be nerfed and that i will be able to farm easier in the future. for that reason i've been trying to get a bit of MF on my actual gear since I assume they're going to change out the gear swapping at some point. for example my shoulders are 220 str, 80 res all and 18 mf 16 gf, or something along those lines.

anyone got any ideas or recommendations?

tldr: i want to wreck shit, not get wrecked GIVE TIPS SENSEI~ <3
LancerJ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States160 Posts
June 14 2012 07:56 GMT
#1869
PsyStarcraft's channel has a pretty good set of info for 2h barb. Nothing special in the gear or builds, just good control and use of skills. Roughly 1:1 ratio of str:vit (Psy has a bit more +life% and so a bit lower vit), armor and all resist at 1:1 in the 900-1000 range (10x higher value for armor) and as much attack speed as possible. No crit or crit damage so no seismic slam, weapon throw, or battle rage with into the fray. No lifesteal or life on hit so it's reliant on Revenge and health globes for healing.
TooL
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada275 Posts
June 14 2012 08:22 GMT
#1870
yeah, i watched a few of his vids~

i think i'll be a little more experimental with ls + loh because i'm not really feeling the revenge spam with the 2h build (beat a2 with that build because it was more effective for me than seismic, but seismic seems better for me in a3)

i think he has more HP than i'm really looking to get, i'm looking to stay in the 30-40k range but we'll see might need more~ not sure
antihobo
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada121 Posts
June 14 2012 12:41 GMT
#1871
On June 14 2012 12:10 WaZ wrote:
sorry i know this is a kinda complex question but i am frustratingly bad at this game T_T i have pretty decent control which makes up for my gear slightly but it can only do so much so at this point i am planning on selling every item im not in love with and starting over buying what i can i was wondering if you guys could tell me what i did so wrong, what you think i should keep, and what i should focus on in the ah and also if i should spend all the money i can on like 1-2 good items and then just make due with the rest until i can upgrade or what xD sorry just if anyone has free time thanks!
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What are you having trouble with for starters? That gear seems good for act 1.

What everyone else said is true, but it also seems to me like your're doing a middle of the road build which requires waaaay better gear. My gear isn't much better than yours and I can solo act 2 with my shitty laptop (terrible terrible lag).
For a tank build switch inspiring presence for relentless or tough as nails. Switch weapon throw + berserker rage for ignore pain + leap/threatening shout. You won't be killing anything quickly, but you won't die.

The crit stuff is pretty meh for a tank build and the attack speed isn't worth it until you have more life on hit. Switching that gear for more strength will increase your armour and even out your dps. It doesn't need to be any higher yet.


takin yer ladder points
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 14:29:15
June 14 2012 14:28 GMT
#1872
On June 14 2012 12:10 WaZ wrote:
sorry i know this is a kinda complex question but i am frustratingly bad at this game T_T i have pretty decent control which makes up for my gear slightly but it can only do so much so at this point i am planning on selling every item im not in love with and starting over buying what i can i was wondering if you guys could tell me what i did so wrong, what you think i should keep, and what i should focus on in the ah and also if i should spend all the money i can on like 1-2 good items and then just make due with the rest until i can upgrade or what xD sorry just if anyone has free time thanks!
*unbuffed stats*
+ Show Spoiler +
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Don't forget that you need to kill the monsters to stop them from hurting you. (That sounds like a line out of a kid's movie)

I alternate between a 2H and a 1Hshield because sometimes I take LESS damage with the 2H. For intsance, the big trees in act 1. I take twice as long to kill them with my shield and they end up doing more damage to me this way, even if I have more HP, armor and resists.

My point it, maybe you should try adding an offensive skill. I'm a big fan of Hammer of the Ancients, it punches holes in everything. With the stun rune, you can even use it defensively.
D3 and Pho, the way to go. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340709
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 16:50:38
June 14 2012 16:49 GMT
#1873
I just realized that psystarcraft has like shit dps but manages 5NV diablo with 2h. He basically is wearing tanking gear with + attack speed. He only has like 33k dps o_O. For some reason I thought he had 800-1000 resist, 58k HP and still good damage. Seems weird.

when I get home I'm going to try wearing my tank gear and 2h and see if thats better for act3/4 than my current cheapskate 2h allout 60-80k dps builds. I will lose a lot of burst obviously but if my survivability is better vs whites it's probably worth it.

I definitely wouldn't bother trying his build for act1/2 though since those are 100% faceroll with dps stacking. Hrm..
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Lemonerer
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel135 Posts
June 14 2012 19:04 GMT
#1874
On June 15 2012 01:49 crms wrote:
I just realized that psystarcraft has like shit dps but manages 5NV diablo with 2h. He basically is wearing tanking gear with + attack speed. He only has like 33k dps o_O. For some reason I thought he had 800-1000 resist, 58k HP and still good damage. Seems weird.

when I get home I'm going to try wearing my tank gear and 2h and see if thats better for act3/4 than my current cheapskate 2h allout 60-80k dps builds. I will lose a lot of burst obviously but if my survivability is better vs whites it's probably worth it.

I definitely wouldn't bother trying his build for act1/2 though since those are 100% faceroll with dps stacking. Hrm..


I think it's really easy to get to 30k dmg with 1h + shield, I hardly have any str on alot of armor pieces and I have 25K dmg. With slightly better armors (Lets exaggerate - 10M worth of gear) I think I can hit the 30K easy and still enjoy my 24% block + 67 resist stormshield.
Not that it matters because I'm going to sell all my gear tommorow in the RMAH (Hopefully!).
Dmn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 19:46:06
June 14 2012 19:45 GMT
#1875
As I'm already done with SC and have started playing HC, I'm really considering just selling all my gear on the RMAH. I also have 18m gold I could buy stuff from the GMAH and sell it on the RMAH. Maybe I'll even switch to a 2h build and sell my 1h+tanking stuff on the RMAH, such as my justice lantern and HOC (it's a really good HOC). Bah, I'm really unsure of what to do, it feels like a waste to let this opportunity go, so I almost feel obliged to sell my gear.

Anyone else planning on selling their gear, or have any thoughts about this?
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 20:13:00
June 14 2012 20:12 GMT
#1876
On June 15 2012 04:45 Dmn wrote:
As I'm already done with SC and have started playing HC, I'm really considering just selling all my gear on the RMAH. I also have 18m gold I could buy stuff from the GMAH and sell it on the RMAH. Maybe I'll even switch to a 2h build and sell my 1h+tanking stuff on the RMAH, such as my justice lantern and HOC (it's a really good HOC). Bah, I'm really unsure of what to do, it feels like a waste to let this opportunity go, so I almost feel obliged to sell my gear.

Anyone else planning on selling their gear, or have any thoughts about this?


prices have died down a bit, so I'm holding off. I considered it when rmah first came up and people were buying like crazy, but chose not too.. I sold a few small junk items for 10$ but that's it. I am gonna continue to play since I'm not done playing yet, but i might sell when pvp comes around and I'm done playing SC, that's probably going to be the next best time for RMAH.
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Lemonerer
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel135 Posts
June 14 2012 20:12 GMT
#1877
Sell everything, if the prices stay high and you regret it you can simply re-buy everything, if they go lower just rebuy better items in 2 weeks / rebuy same quality items and enjoy your profit/ start all over again and keep the moneys.
At least thats how I see it
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 21:12:39
June 14 2012 20:44 GMT
#1878
Fucking swift skull cleavers. Their range is seriously ridiculous, they seem to hit me from two times the length of their fucking axe for like 50% max hp.

Edit: Also, is it really supposed to be possible for a tank barb to actually tank the champion packs of soul lashers? They do so much more dps than everything I've encountered in act3 so far, it's crazy.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
June 14 2012 21:33 GMT
#1879
On June 15 2012 05:44 Matoo- wrote:
Fucking swift skull cleavers. Their range is seriously ridiculous, they seem to hit me from two times the length of their fucking axe for like 50% max hp.

Edit: Also, is it really supposed to be possible for a tank barb to actually tank the champion packs of soul lashers? They do so much more dps than everything I've encountered in act3 so far, it's crazy.



it is possible its just not fun ;D whats your armor and resistance atm?
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 21:50:18
June 14 2012 21:47 GMT
#1880
10.5k armor, 900-950 res, 32k hp. They rip through me. I guess I need a ton more hps.

Anyway I switched to 2h and zerged them with wotb+eq. But Ghom is manhandling me now. Act3 is seriously much more difficult than act2. (Btw what kind of damage does he do? Is superstition useful against him?)
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