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darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 18:56:23
June 13 2012 18:27 GMT
#1841
I'm currently using + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
for my 2h Barb. I have about 45k DPS which isn't enough to do act 3. Should I upgrade my weapon or get better armor parts? I have basically no resists and 45k HP :p

I'm not sure how people deal with elites, I basically melt the instant ignore pain is off I guess I have to kill everything in that timeframe
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 13 2012 18:30 GMT
#1842
Depends what your other DPS stats look like. The weapon you have is pretty good--if your attack speed and crit/crit damage are on the low side, you could get a lot out of upgrading those.
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KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
June 13 2012 18:43 GMT
#1843
What kind of stats do I need to be able to do Act2? I currently have 40k hp, 8k dps, ~420 resists, 7k armor. I just sold a shoulders for 4mil that I got from butcher, so I'm hoping I'll be able to afford the upgrades. If not, I'll just keep doing butcher runs.
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darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
June 13 2012 18:56 GMT
#1844
I have AS amu and 1 ring with +str and vit, but it's getting expensive to upgrade that stuff.. Most of the gear I have I found on my DH and I bought that weapon for 1 mil. Maybe I need to upgrade my gloves, they are only str/vit/crit chance, no atk speed.

What kind of crit chance should I aim for? 40%?

My current stats: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
June 13 2012 19:01 GMT
#1845
On June 14 2012 03:43 KazeHydra wrote:
What kind of stats do I need to be able to do Act2? I currently have 40k hp, 8k dps, ~420 resists, 7k armor. I just sold a shoulders for 4mil that I got from butcher, so I'm hoping I'll be able to afford the upgrades. If not, I'll just keep doing butcher runs.


Looks like resists are your soft spot, but try to increase the other stats a little bit too.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 19:21:46
June 13 2012 19:21 GMT
#1846
On June 14 2012 03:56 darkcloud8282 wrote:
I have AS amu and 1 ring with +str and vit, but it's getting expensive to upgrade that stuff.. Most of the gear I have I found on my DH and I bought that weapon for 1 mil. Maybe I need to upgrade my gloves, they are only str/vit/crit chance, no atk speed.

What kind of crit chance should I aim for? 40%?

My current stats: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Without really looking at the math, I'd say you could afford to get more attack speed, though this depends on what build you're using. If you're using something like crms' double 2 min CD build, you probably don't need the attack speed.

0 LOH/Lifesteal is also somewhat uncharacteristic for a 2H build (and for Barbs in general, TBH).
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TooL
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada275 Posts
June 13 2012 19:46 GMT
#1847
what is your ideal itemization for a 2h barb?

going to sell my DH's bow for 30+ mil and gear out my barb

currently has 40k dps, 35k HP, 1k RA, 8 or 9k armor, 120 passive MF / 60 GF

I only have 2.8 Life steal, and no LoH though.
DueleR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States207 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 19:57:13
June 13 2012 19:56 GMT
#1848
On June 14 2012 04:01 Novalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 03:43 KazeHydra wrote:
What kind of stats do I need to be able to do Act2? I currently have 40k hp, 8k dps, ~420 resists, 7k armor. I just sold a shoulders for 4mil that I got from butcher, so I'm hoping I'll be able to afford the upgrades. If not, I'll just keep doing butcher runs.


Looks like resists are your soft spot, but try to increase the other stats a little bit too.


Act2 is strange, at least for me, because there was a point where I couldn't do it at all, and then at some point I realized I could do it with some difficulty, and now I'm at a point where I'm objectively "overgeared" for Act2 but it still doesn't feel all that easy to me (in comparison, I basically don't take damage in Act1). There's a lot of spiky damage in A2 to watch out for, like those damn wasps, and some champion groups still feel extremely difficult.

But I agree with Novalisk on the resists part - you can probably get by with your current stats if you improve your resists a lot, but it'd probably better to improve all around - I would try to improve resists at least to 550-600, armor to 8-8.5k, HP to 45k (though HP itself doesn't mean all that much). When I reached those stats, that's when I could start doing Act2 - i.e. I could get up to 5 stacks while dying maybe 2 or 3 times, assuming I stuck to the champion groups in the earlier part of the act.

You can certainly afford enough upgrades on 4 mil - My entire gear set when I was doing Act2 was probably worth not much more than that, if not less.


Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
June 13 2012 19:56 GMT
#1849
On June 14 2012 03:27 darkcloud8282 wrote:
I'm currently using + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
for my 2h Barb. I have about 45k DPS which isn't enough to do act 3. Should I upgrade my weapon or get better armor parts? I have basically no resists and 45k HP :p

I'm not sure how people deal with elites, I basically melt the instant ignore pain is off I guess I have to kill everything in that timeframe


I'm using a 2h axe that has 1300 DPS and yet my Damage stat is at 23k.

What am I doing wrong? Do I need more Strength?
D3 and Pho, the way to go. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340709
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 20:02:51
June 13 2012 20:02 GMT
#1850
On June 14 2012 04:21 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 03:56 darkcloud8282 wrote:
I have AS amu and 1 ring with +str and vit, but it's getting expensive to upgrade that stuff.. Most of the gear I have I found on my DH and I bought that weapon for 1 mil. Maybe I need to upgrade my gloves, they are only str/vit/crit chance, no atk speed.

What kind of crit chance should I aim for? 40%?

My current stats: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Without really looking at the math, I'd say you could afford to get more attack speed, though this depends on what build you're using. If you're using something like crms' double 2 min CD build, you probably don't need the attack speed.

0 LOH/Lifesteal is also somewhat uncharacteristic for a 2H build (and for Barbs in general, TBH).

Yeah I'm basically running his build. I'm not sure if I need life on hit though, it doesn't seem like I'll be able to get in many hits before I die to elite packs anyways. Or does EQ trigger LoH? That might explain things..

On June 14 2012 04:56 Krowser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 03:27 darkcloud8282 wrote:
I'm currently using + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
for my 2h Barb. I have about 45k DPS which isn't enough to do act 3. Should I upgrade my weapon or get better armor parts? I have basically no resists and 45k HP :p

I'm not sure how people deal with elites, I basically melt the instant ignore pain is off I guess I have to kill everything in that timeframe


I'm using a 2h axe that has 1300 DPS and yet my Damage stat is at 23k.

What am I doing wrong? Do I need more Strength?

You probably need crit chance/damage and attack speed
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 20:25:01
June 13 2012 20:06 GMT
#1851
On June 14 2012 05:02 darkcloud8282 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 04:21 TheYango wrote:
On June 14 2012 03:56 darkcloud8282 wrote:
I have AS amu and 1 ring with +str and vit, but it's getting expensive to upgrade that stuff.. Most of the gear I have I found on my DH and I bought that weapon for 1 mil. Maybe I need to upgrade my gloves, they are only str/vit/crit chance, no atk speed.

What kind of crit chance should I aim for? 40%?

My current stats: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Without really looking at the math, I'd say you could afford to get more attack speed, though this depends on what build you're using. If you're using something like crms' double 2 min CD build, you probably don't need the attack speed.

0 LOH/Lifesteal is also somewhat uncharacteristic for a 2H build (and for Barbs in general, TBH).

Yeah I'm basically running his build. I'm not sure if I need life on hit though, it doesn't seem like I'll be able to get in many hits before I die to elite packs anyways. Or does EQ trigger LoH? That might explain things..

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 04:56 Krowser wrote:
On June 14 2012 03:27 darkcloud8282 wrote:
I'm currently using + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
for my 2h Barb. I have about 45k DPS which isn't enough to do act 3. Should I upgrade my weapon or get better armor parts? I have basically no resists and 45k HP :p

I'm not sure how people deal with elites, I basically melt the instant ignore pain is off I guess I have to kill everything in that timeframe


I'm using a 2h axe that has 1300 DPS and yet my Damage stat is at 23k.

What am I doing wrong? Do I need more Strength?

You probably need crit chance/damage and attack speed


My crit chance is 20%/+160%

Maybe attack speed then... I'm at 1.4 Attacks per second.

Can you post a SS of your stats and details? Thanks.
D3 and Pho, the way to go. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340709
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 13 2012 20:57 GMT
#1852
On June 14 2012 05:02 darkcloud8282 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 04:21 TheYango wrote:
On June 14 2012 03:56 darkcloud8282 wrote:
I have AS amu and 1 ring with +str and vit, but it's getting expensive to upgrade that stuff.. Most of the gear I have I found on my DH and I bought that weapon for 1 mil. Maybe I need to upgrade my gloves, they are only str/vit/crit chance, no atk speed.

What kind of crit chance should I aim for? 40%?

My current stats: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Without really looking at the math, I'd say you could afford to get more attack speed, though this depends on what build you're using. If you're using something like crms' double 2 min CD build, you probably don't need the attack speed.

0 LOH/Lifesteal is also somewhat uncharacteristic for a 2H build (and for Barbs in general, TBH).

Yeah I'm basically running his build. I'm not sure if I need life on hit though, it doesn't seem like I'll be able to get in many hits before I die to elite packs anyways. Or does EQ trigger LoH? That might explain things..

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 04:56 Krowser wrote:
On June 14 2012 03:27 darkcloud8282 wrote:
I'm currently using + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
for my 2h Barb. I have about 45k DPS which isn't enough to do act 3. Should I upgrade my weapon or get better armor parts? I have basically no resists and 45k HP :p

I'm not sure how people deal with elites, I basically melt the instant ignore pain is off I guess I have to kill everything in that timeframe


I'm using a 2h axe that has 1300 DPS and yet my Damage stat is at 23k.

What am I doing wrong? Do I need more Strength?

You probably need crit chance/damage and attack speed



With my cheapskate 2h balls oout build you kill elites during Ignore Pain - Ignorance is bliss. It only lasts 5 seconds but that's more than enough time, assuming you engaged correctly. I dont have any life on hit in my 2h gear, but EQ + Insanity + Ignore Pain = 4% healing and 65% reduced damage. You stay up through damn near anything while ignore pain is active. Once it wears off you either zerg the last bit of HP, or you back off and slam them to death since youll still be berserked.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
June 13 2012 21:06 GMT
#1853
On June 14 2012 05:57 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 05:02 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On June 14 2012 04:21 TheYango wrote:
On June 14 2012 03:56 darkcloud8282 wrote:
I have AS amu and 1 ring with +str and vit, but it's getting expensive to upgrade that stuff.. Most of the gear I have I found on my DH and I bought that weapon for 1 mil. Maybe I need to upgrade my gloves, they are only str/vit/crit chance, no atk speed.

What kind of crit chance should I aim for? 40%?

My current stats: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Without really looking at the math, I'd say you could afford to get more attack speed, though this depends on what build you're using. If you're using something like crms' double 2 min CD build, you probably don't need the attack speed.

0 LOH/Lifesteal is also somewhat uncharacteristic for a 2H build (and for Barbs in general, TBH).

Yeah I'm basically running his build. I'm not sure if I need life on hit though, it doesn't seem like I'll be able to get in many hits before I die to elite packs anyways. Or does EQ trigger LoH? That might explain things..

On June 14 2012 04:56 Krowser wrote:
On June 14 2012 03:27 darkcloud8282 wrote:
I'm currently using + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
for my 2h Barb. I have about 45k DPS which isn't enough to do act 3. Should I upgrade my weapon or get better armor parts? I have basically no resists and 45k HP :p

I'm not sure how people deal with elites, I basically melt the instant ignore pain is off I guess I have to kill everything in that timeframe


I'm using a 2h axe that has 1300 DPS and yet my Damage stat is at 23k.

What am I doing wrong? Do I need more Strength?

You probably need crit chance/damage and attack speed



With my cheapskate 2h balls oout build you kill elites during Ignore Pain - Ignorance is bliss. It only lasts 5 seconds but that's more than enough time, assuming you engaged correctly. I dont have any life on hit in my 2h gear, but EQ + Insanity + Ignore Pain = 4% healing and 65% reduced damage. You stay up through damn near anything while ignore pain is active. Once it wears off you either zerg the last bit of HP, or you back off and slam them to death since youll still be berserked.

Can you post a screen of your stats? I want to do a comparison for reference.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 21:11:45
June 13 2012 21:09 GMT
#1854
I'm at work right now. A few pages back I posted my starting gear. I've made some improvements since then but the SS i posted was act 3 capable, and act1/2 complete faceroll.


edit; I didn't post a screenshot.. whoops.

Off the top of my head my DPS ranges from 60k to 80k depending on build and shouts, crit I believe is around 25%, crit damage is around 45%, I think I have about 40-50% increased attack speed and around 1800-1900 Strength. I can't remember for sure, I'll provide you a screenshot when I'm home from work.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
June 13 2012 22:02 GMT
#1855
[image loading]
Just found this 2 days ago, how helpful is this to barb? Any one can pricecheck or offer me? Thanks
Lemonerer
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel135 Posts
June 13 2012 22:03 GMT
#1856
Guys I need a quick decision! Should I buy this legendary ring for 9M instead of my rare ring.
Please answer asap :D

http://imgur.com/VZPDa
TooL
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 22:21:57
June 13 2012 22:21 GMT
#1857
you guys getting mempo or andariels or something else for your 2h barb?
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 13 2012 22:51 GMT
#1858
On June 14 2012 07:02 tuho12345 wrote:
[image loading]
Just found this 2 days ago, how helpful is this to barb? Any one can pricecheck or offer me? Thanks



those are insanely good for any current spec.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 22:52:34
June 13 2012 22:52 GMT
#1859
On June 14 2012 06:09 crms wrote:
I'm at work right now. A few pages back I posted my starting gear. I've made some improvements since then but the SS i posted was act 3 capable, and act1/2 complete faceroll.


edit; I didn't post a screenshot.. whoops.

Off the top of my head my DPS ranges from 60k to 80k depending on build and shouts, crit I believe is around 25%, crit damage is around 45%, I think I have about 40-50% increased attack speed and around 1800-1900 Strength. I can't remember for sure, I'll provide you a screenshot when I'm home from work.

Thanks.


On June 14 2012 07:21 TooL wrote:
you guys getting mempo or andariels or something else for your 2h barb?

I use andariels
Lemonerer
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel135 Posts
June 13 2012 23:23 GMT
#1860
On June 14 2012 07:03 Lemonerer wrote:
Guys I need a quick decision! Should I buy this legendary ring for 9M instead of my rare ring.
Please answer asap :D

http://imgur.com/VZPDa


Just wanted to let you guys know that I bought it although I never saw any recommendation to use this legendary by anyone... And its really great
I am now doing Azmodan runs with 25K dmg "tank" barb
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