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LancerJ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States160 Posts
June 11 2012 05:30 GMT
#1741
I haven't found a good solution for the Gorgors. They typically show up one at a time so I'll pick off the surrounding mobs while avoiding the Gorgor and then kill it 1v1 with cooldowns (if nothing else, Wrath of the Berserker will kill it).

The Blood Clan Warriors can be kited and will stop their enrage after 8 seconds or so. I'll usually run around picking off the spearmen that often show up at the same time while I wait for the enrage to stop.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
June 11 2012 08:06 GMT
#1742
On June 11 2012 14:08 nonsequitur wrote:
[image loading]

Is there some method to dealing with these 2 mobs that I'm missing?

With 950 resists, the Colossal Gorgors (left one) hits me for 11-13k per "clap" which cannot be avoided. I have 55k hp and I can't tank a normal version of it before it kills me.

The Blood Clan Warriors (right one) occasionally enrages which gives them a ~9k knockback attack that slows me and is also unavoidable. What the fuck am I supposed to do against them when they come in packs of 7+ like they usually do?


If there is a pack of them you can always blow up your cooldowns on them.

Now overall i would say always use leap with iron impact - you jump on them and you are pretty much invulnerable for 4 seconds.

Also frenzy with lightning stun is a good choice because you just stun them and they can't attack you. (i am talking about 1v1 here)
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Lemonerer
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel135 Posts
June 11 2012 08:47 GMT
#1743
So guys, whats the best follower? What are the best skills and items for it?

Btw cleared diablo inferno at last! so excited thanks for all the tips!
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
June 11 2012 11:54 GMT
#1744
whats the point behind the iskatu farming? a bit gold and 2 blue items dont seem interesting at all.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 11 2012 12:06 GMT
#1745
On June 11 2012 14:08 nonsequitur wrote:
[image loading]

Is there some method to dealing with these 2 mobs that I'm missing?

With 950 resists, the Colossal Gorgors (left one) hits me for 11-13k per "clap" which cannot be avoided. I have 55k hp and I can't tank a normal version of it before it kills me.

The Blood Clan Warriors (right one) occasionally enrages which gives them a ~9k knockback attack that slows me and is also unavoidable. What the fuck am I supposed to do against them when they come in packs of 7+ like they usually do?


Man, you guys still have trouble with them? Just run away when they're enraged. Seemed like an extremely simple solution but aparently barbs don't think about running away. You just run and if there's alternate cycled enrages, you can "bait" their attacks, they get "stuck" in the ground and let youdps the others for a few seconds before they charge their next attack. Think dark berserkers.

Gorgors: You have to dodge the side double charged up swing, and then go in with the normal hits, you want to run before he starts doing the clap stuff and reset it. they are pretty slow.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
June 11 2012 12:53 GMT
#1746
On June 11 2012 20:54 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
whats the point behind the iskatu farming? a bit gold and 2 blue items dont seem interesting at all.


I think Iskatu is doable if you have gear that is good enough for A2, but not good enough for A4. My gear is bad A2 gear and I can get him down to about 25%. Hence, you have a chance of getting, for example, high-DPS blues from Iskatu that you can sell for decent money.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 11 2012 13:04 GMT
#1747
On June 11 2012 20:54 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
whats the point behind the iskatu farming? a bit gold and 2 blue items dont seem interesting at all.

A4 blues sell much more reliably than A1 blues/rares, and A2 farm is terrible in general.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 13:10:13
June 11 2012 13:08 GMT
#1748
On June 11 2012 22:04 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 20:54 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
whats the point behind the iskatu farming? a bit gold and 2 blue items dont seem interesting at all.

A4 blues sell much more reliably than A1 blues/rares, and A2 farm is terrible in general.

I have sold several a1 rares in the range of 1 million or higher. I doubt you can do that with a4 blues.

edit.
Although with weapons it should be possible.
Hmm.
Off-season = best season
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 13:21:41
June 11 2012 13:20 GMT
#1749
i made 3-5m a day with isakatu ,you can sell high-DPS weppons,high GF,MF item,High dex + move speed etc..
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
June 11 2012 13:57 GMT
#1750
mmhh ok so really the point is hoping for okish blues. still doesnt seem convincing. well considering how easy it is i might test it for a bit.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 14:13:18
June 11 2012 14:10 GMT
#1751
On June 11 2012 22:57 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
mmhh ok so really the point is hoping for okish blues. still doesnt seem convincing. well considering how easy it is i might test it for a bit.

A lucky Warden/Butcher run will probably roll you a bit higher than Iskatu runs because you'll roll a good rare. The thing is, Iskatu is more consistent, because non-rares and weapon rares from Warden/Butcher are almost always unsellable. With Warden/Butcher, you're basically trying to win the lottery, while Iskatu guarantees a certain reasonable level of income. You get more ok-ish items to sell from Iskatu and even if they don't sell, the vast majority of items that drop from Iskatu are req. level 60, which means they salvage to Exquisite Essences. Coupled with the fact that it's just faster overall (you can kill Iskatu once a minute and there's pretty much no overhead time, whereas doing normal runs you do a lot of running around trying to find stacks/navigate unexplored level layouts), and I think the overall income is better than other options in the A2/A3 gap.

A2 Goblin/A3 Resplendent Chest were probably better with MF gear, but both of those have been nerfed.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 11 2012 14:15 GMT
#1752
On June 11 2012 23:10 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 22:57 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
mmhh ok so really the point is hoping for okish blues. still doesnt seem convincing. well considering how easy it is i might test it for a bit.

A lucky Warden/Butcher run will probably roll you a bit higher than Iskatu runs because you'll roll a good rare. The thing is, Iskatu is more consistent, because non-rares and weapon rares from Warden/Butcher are almost always unsellable. With Warden/Butcher, you're basically trying to win the lottery, while Iskatu guarantees a certain reasonable level of income. You get more ok-ish items to sell from Iskatu and even if they don't sell, the vast majority of items that drop from Iskatu are req. level 60, which means they salvage to Exquisite Essences. Coupled with the fact that it's just faster overall (you can kill Iskatu once a minute and there's pretty much no overhead time, whereas doing normal runs you do a lot of running around trying to find stacks/navigate unexplored level layouts), and I think the overall income is better than other options in the A2/A3 gap.

A2 Goblin/A3 Resplendent Chest were probably better with MF gear, but both of those have been nerfed.

All of those would still be totally out of question for me though, as it would be way too monotonous. I am still playing a game here, not going to work.
Cant even do more than 2 warden butcher runs in a row. After that I will farm somewhere else, Belial for example.
Off-season = best season
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 11 2012 14:41 GMT
#1753
On June 11 2012 23:15 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 23:10 TheYango wrote:
On June 11 2012 22:57 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
mmhh ok so really the point is hoping for okish blues. still doesnt seem convincing. well considering how easy it is i might test it for a bit.

A lucky Warden/Butcher run will probably roll you a bit higher than Iskatu runs because you'll roll a good rare. The thing is, Iskatu is more consistent, because non-rares and weapon rares from Warden/Butcher are almost always unsellable. With Warden/Butcher, you're basically trying to win the lottery, while Iskatu guarantees a certain reasonable level of income. You get more ok-ish items to sell from Iskatu and even if they don't sell, the vast majority of items that drop from Iskatu are req. level 60, which means they salvage to Exquisite Essences. Coupled with the fact that it's just faster overall (you can kill Iskatu once a minute and there's pretty much no overhead time, whereas doing normal runs you do a lot of running around trying to find stacks/navigate unexplored level layouts), and I think the overall income is better than other options in the A2/A3 gap.

A2 Goblin/A3 Resplendent Chest were probably better with MF gear, but both of those have been nerfed.

All of those would still be totally out of question for me though, as it would be way too monotonous. I am still playing a game here, not going to work.
Cant even do more than 2 warden butcher runs in a row. After that I will farm somewhere else, Belial for example.


you probably aren't going to enjoy the endgame.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 15:43:15
June 11 2012 15:09 GMT
#1754
I mean, by the time you're at the point where your upgrades are several million per slot, the amount of farm you have to do means that everything is going to be monotonous.

EDIT: I hate how A2 is so much easier for my Wizard whom I've spent a total of 800k on, and who is still wearing lvl 50 trash blues than my Barb, that I've spent 10 times as much gold on.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 16:40:32
June 11 2012 16:39 GMT
#1755
On June 12 2012 00:09 TheYango wrote:
I mean, by the time you're at the point where your upgrades are several million per slot, the amount of farm you have to do means that everything is going to be monotonous.

EDIT: I hate how A2 is so much easier for my Wizard whom I've spent a total of 800k on, and who is still wearing lvl 50 trash blues than my Barb, that I've spent 10 times as much gold on.



exact same situation. dinged 60 with my sorc yesterday and already progressed through half of act2. the overall gear on my sorc is like worth half of my barb helm alone.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 11 2012 16:44 GMT
#1756
Realistically, I will probably gear my Barb most effectively by getting my Wizard to Siegebreaker, and having her 5-stack Siegebreaker to gear my Barb.

I still like playing my Barb way more (feels way more rewarding to progress+much more group-friendly), but it's just depressing watching myself breeze through content that I was bashing my head against over and over again on my Barb, with significantly worse gear. If I had similar gear quality on my Wizard to what my Barb has, I could be absolutely stomping A3.
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axion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Norway110 Posts
June 11 2012 17:03 GMT
#1757
Im getting fustrated as every significant upgrade costs from 5m. Act 2 is very easy now, I can take 5 stack kulle in 10-15m and belial in semi dps spec, However, in act 3 I get stomped incredible hard.. After 20k in repairs I usually get 5 stacks and siegebreaker takes 5-10m, so the farming is not very efficients.

Im at 800-900 AR, 14k dps, 52k hp, 28% block (with sacred shield and the helm of command),1000 LOH 1.4 attacks per second (I think), 10k armor, 17% SoE. All the stats are with buffs included.

I think the stats are rather good, but perhaps i just suck ^^

I run with frenzy - sidearm, charge with dreadnought, wotb - insanity, ignore pain 7s, revenge - provocation and warcry - impunity...

This post's goal is not just to whine, but to get a few tips incase I've missed some in this thread.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
June 11 2012 17:03 GMT
#1758
On June 12 2012 01:44 TheYango wrote:
Realistically, I will probably gear my Barb most effectively by getting my Wizard to Siegebreaker, and having her 5-stack Siegebreaker to gear my Barb.

I still like playing my Barb way more (feels way more rewarding to progress+much more group-friendly), but it's just depressing watching myself breeze through content that I was bashing my head against over and over again on my Barb, with significantly worse gear. If I had similar gear quality on my Wizard to what my Barb has, I could be absolutely stomping A3.


I made a Barb second character, it astound me how bad the balance is in this game. I can't do mcuh with my barb in A3 with twice the gold investmennt my wizard has while I can pretty much clear everything with my wizard.

I was bored yesterday though so I used my wizard that has already cleared Diablo to try Diablo Inferno with my Barb. She went down easier than with my wizard :p
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Dmn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway101 Posts
June 11 2012 17:05 GMT
#1759
On June 12 2012 01:44 TheYango wrote:
Realistically, I will probably gear my Barb most effectively by getting my Wizard to Siegebreaker, and having her 5-stack Siegebreaker to gear my Barb.

I still like playing my Barb way more (feels way more rewarding to progress+much more group-friendly), but it's just depressing watching myself breeze through content that I was bashing my head against over and over again on my Barb, with significantly worse gear. If I had similar gear quality on my Wizard to what my Barb has, I could be absolutely stomping A3.


Man, I've seen you post here quite a bit and you seem to have some problems in A3. I mean, I hit the A3 wall pretty hard too and was considering rerolling a Wiz myself, but it just ain't as fun kiting around as it is jumping in and destroying stuff. Needless to say I sticked with my barb, and I'm now happily farming siegebreaker in 20 min runs. It'd pain me to see you give up.

If you could post your stats and gear, maybe I could give you some advice?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 17:08:07
June 11 2012 17:07 GMT
#1760
On June 12 2012 02:05 Dmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 01:44 TheYango wrote:
Realistically, I will probably gear my Barb most effectively by getting my Wizard to Siegebreaker, and having her 5-stack Siegebreaker to gear my Barb.

I still like playing my Barb way more (feels way more rewarding to progress+much more group-friendly), but it's just depressing watching myself breeze through content that I was bashing my head against over and over again on my Barb, with significantly worse gear. If I had similar gear quality on my Wizard to what my Barb has, I could be absolutely stomping A3.


Man, I've seen you post here quite a bit and you seem to have some problems in A3. I mean, I hit the A3 wall pretty hard too and was considering rerolling a Wiz myself, but it just ain't as fun kiting around as it is jumping in and destroying stuff. Needless to say I sticked with my barb, and I'm now happily farming siegebreaker in 20 min runs. It'd pain me to see you give up.

If you could post your stats and gear, maybe I could give you some advice?

Nah, don't worry. I'm still playing my Barb. Just started playing my Wiz for a change of pace.

I also just haven't had as much time to put into the necessary farm for the past week because I've been moving. Realistically I'd have broken the A3 gap by now if I'd actually put in the time.
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