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LancerJ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States160 Posts
June 08 2012 09:02 GMT
#1621
On June 08 2012 05:26 skyR wrote:
You don't have enough LOH for Diablo.. unless you want to stand around for 30 mins waiting for pot cd and health well.

Thanks for the advice. Got to Diablo tonight and downed him on the first try. It did take 10+ minutes though, even with a loh weapon.

New loh weapon:
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Old weapon:
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Stats at time of kill (no enchantress):
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Skill build doesn't seem to matter too much, I used the same setup I had used to clear trash.

Izual actually gave me more trouble than Diablo did. Izual can charge -> swing for an instant 25-30k damage which was rather dangerous with 47k max health. Izual's auto-attack swings come faster than Diablo's and hit roughly 2.5 times as hard so I could only be in melee range of Izual while I had a defensive cooldown active (in my case, just Leap with Iron Impact).

Overall a bit anti-climactic since if you can handle Act 3 trash you can handle Diablo too. I skipped about 1 out of every 3 elite packs while I cleared all of Act 3 and 4 because they were far too difficult. Seems the only special requirement for Diablo would be life on hit to speed up the kill process because there's very few health globes to pick up in the fight.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3822 Posts
June 08 2012 09:29 GMT
#1622
On June 08 2012 17:53 Dmn wrote:
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On June 08 2012 17:32 Grovbolle wrote:
On June 08 2012 13:58 Xinder wrote:
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Ok so I took the advice and bought a few items w/ my 3.4mil that were upgrades. So here are my stats. I just did the start of act 2 and am still getting rocked somewhat. Am I doing anything wrong? I concede it could be my playstyle not being more passive(ie trying to treat it like act 1). But as far as stats go do they look good for act 2?


With only a 1.2 atk per second, you need more life pr. hit I would say. (I have around 1100 and still getting my ass handed to me in act 2)


No. He should almost completely disregard life on hit for now. LOH is not what keeps you alive, solid core defensive stats and good play do. He should focus on improving his resists, armor (through more str/vit, higher tier items with more base armor and +armor affixes) and a better shield (27%+ sacred shield with 3,7-4,7k block amount. Get a blue one, stats dont matter). Getting more strength, some atk speed and maybe a wep upgrade would also be very helpful to increase the dps.

I would aim for 800-900+ resists buffed with close to 10k armor and a good shield. Strengt and vit should preferably both be 1000-1200+, less vit than strength if you have a lot of +life%, otherwise about 1:1 ratio. Only when these core stats are good enough, should you focus on additional block% and LOH. People are way too obsessed over these secondary stats (meele reduction is another one). Ive killed diablo with 5 stacks if that makes my advice any more legitimate.



Okay my bad, I haven't killed anything noteworthy in Act 2 yet
(I get stupid by grinding vases all day long).
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 12:37:45
June 08 2012 12:30 GMT
#1623
On June 08 2012 17:53 Dmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 17:32 Grovbolle wrote:
On June 08 2012 13:58 Xinder wrote:
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Ok so I took the advice and bought a few items w/ my 3.4mil that were upgrades. So here are my stats. I just did the start of act 2 and am still getting rocked somewhat. Am I doing anything wrong? I concede it could be my playstyle not being more passive(ie trying to treat it like act 1). But as far as stats go do they look good for act 2?


With only a 1.2 atk per second, you need more life pr. hit I would say. (I have around 1100 and still getting my ass handed to me in act 2)


No. He should almost completely disregard life on hit for now. LOH is not what keeps you alive, solid core defensive stats and good play do. He should focus on improving his resists, armor (through more str/vit, higher tier items with more base armor and +armor affixes) and a better shield (27%+ sacred shield with 3,7-4,7k block amount. Get a blue one, stats dont matter). Getting more strength, some atk speed and maybe a wep upgrade would also be very helpful to increase the dps.

I would aim for 800-900+ resists buffed with close to 10k armor and a good shield. Strengt and vit should preferably both be 1000-1200+, less vit than strength if you have a lot of +life%, otherwise about 1:1 ratio. Only when these core stats are good enough, should you focus on additional block% and LOH. People are way too obsessed over these secondary stats (meele reduction is another one). Ive killed diablo with 5 stacks if that makes my advice any more legitimate.

His Vit seems fine, given that he has a whopping +46% max life. Resists are definitely on the low side though. I agree that he doesn't need LoH, but honestly, % melee reduction starts to compare very favorably to resists at his current resist value (at 600 resist all, 15% melee reduction gives equivalent EHP vs. melee as 160 resist all--good luck finding +160 all resist belts instead of a 15% String of Ears). Other sources of % melee reduction are pretty mediocre, but mathematically, String of Ears is not overrated in the slightest, given how much equivalent resist 15-20% melee reduction is worth after 500+ resists.

At 900 resist all, 20% melee reduction gives equivalent EHP vs. melee as +300 resist all, which is an astronomically high amount of survivability to get from a single piece of armor.

A weapon upgrade might be in order as well, TBH. 7800 DPS is on the low side for someone who has 1100+ Strength.
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Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 12:40:12
June 08 2012 12:35 GMT
#1624
so for someone with these buffed stats, should i take 40 mins to clear siegebreaker 5 stacks, or annihilate act 2?

~1k res all
~10.1k armor
~10.1k dps
50k hp
38% block


in a2, i can literally stand in fire and shit...but siegebreaker takes anywhere from 40mins - 1 hr, and a lot of it is dying next to a rare pack and having tyreal kill them. which is 100% not fun at all. or should i farm gobbo's on my DH?
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
June 08 2012 13:11 GMT
#1625
On June 08 2012 21:30 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 17:53 Dmn wrote:
On June 08 2012 17:32 Grovbolle wrote:
On June 08 2012 13:58 Xinder wrote:
[image loading]

Ok so I took the advice and bought a few items w/ my 3.4mil that were upgrades. So here are my stats. I just did the start of act 2 and am still getting rocked somewhat. Am I doing anything wrong? I concede it could be my playstyle not being more passive(ie trying to treat it like act 1). But as far as stats go do they look good for act 2?


With only a 1.2 atk per second, you need more life pr. hit I would say. (I have around 1100 and still getting my ass handed to me in act 2)


No. He should almost completely disregard life on hit for now. LOH is not what keeps you alive, solid core defensive stats and good play do. He should focus on improving his resists, armor (through more str/vit, higher tier items with more base armor and +armor affixes) and a better shield (27%+ sacred shield with 3,7-4,7k block amount. Get a blue one, stats dont matter). Getting more strength, some atk speed and maybe a wep upgrade would also be very helpful to increase the dps.

I would aim for 800-900+ resists buffed with close to 10k armor and a good shield. Strengt and vit should preferably both be 1000-1200+, less vit than strength if you have a lot of +life%, otherwise about 1:1 ratio. Only when these core stats are good enough, should you focus on additional block% and LOH. People are way too obsessed over these secondary stats (meele reduction is another one). Ive killed diablo with 5 stacks if that makes my advice any more legitimate.

His Vit seems fine, given that he has a whopping +46% max life. Resists are definitely on the low side though. I agree that he doesn't need LoH, but honestly, % melee reduction starts to compare very favorably to resists at his current resist value (at 600 resist all, 15% melee reduction gives equivalent EHP vs. melee as 160 resist all--good luck finding +160 all resist belts instead of a 15% String of Ears). Other sources of % melee reduction are pretty mediocre, but mathematically, String of Ears is not overrated in the slightest, given how much equivalent resist 15-20% melee reduction is worth after 500+ resists.

At 900 resist all, 20% melee reduction gives equivalent EHP vs. melee as +300 resist all, which is an astronomically high amount of survivability to get from a single piece of armor.

A weapon upgrade might be in order as well, TBH. 7800 DPS is on the low side for someone who has 1100+ Strength.


Yeah the weapon is only ~500 dps. But weapons with LoH are so damn expensive it's stupid. Not to mention most that have higher dps have stupid low LoH and no socket so that I could possibly gem it for more LoH. Most of my gear has 40+ AR on it. I thought those pieces were good when I bought them all. I dunno. I'll look into better weap/socket gear when I get enough money from going back to warden/butcher. Sigh.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 08 2012 13:16 GMT
#1626
just drop like 100k on an 800+ dps socketed weapon and slot in a purple gem
should be fine for act 2, especially if you already have a kymbos
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
June 08 2012 15:03 GMT
#1627
Is LoH worth it for a slow 2h weapon or should I be shooting for something else? I was thinking about shoving an emerald in my hammer, for bigger crits.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3822 Posts
June 08 2012 15:04 GMT
#1628
On June 08 2012 22:16 Dead9 wrote:
just drop like 100k on an 800+ dps socketed weapon and slot in a purple gem
should be fine for act 2, especially if you already have a kymbos


You can't do that on EU I think.. 100K gets you nothing on the AH.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 15:12:36
June 08 2012 15:11 GMT
#1629
good thing 2H gear is ridiculously cheap.. already up to 60k dps and I think I've spent ~2.5M (1.9M just on the helm). Sure, I don't have BIS by any means (like some of my tank gear) but I haven't had to sell off any of my 'precious' tanking gear to fund the switch.

Pretty neat, excited to try when I get home from work.
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TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 15:37:04
June 08 2012 15:17 GMT
#1630
I hope you guys can help me. Im level 60, inferno act 2. I still feel the common demon packs can give me more trouble then whats it worth. (elites are also bit too hard)

I hope you can perhaps guide me into being a better barb. What to aim for on AH etc. I know all resist, armor and vit are good. But should I try to spend millions on LoH? Perhaps more on a Block chance shield, instead of resis and armor? I dunno.

My stats.
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My weapon
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My shield
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[image loading]


Feel free to ask me what my other gear have in stats, if it helps you guide me =) thx.

Btw, I only solo sometimes to farm. Mostly I play with my DH brother.

My skill setup.
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WXiPRT!Veb!ccaZbZ


Im EU Yes
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 08 2012 15:23 GMT
#1631
About Ruby vs Amethyst in my weapon:

my question is: dont all skills, e.g. revenge, profit from "weapon damage"? i wonder what is meant by weapon damage, i rly have no idea.
Thats why i put a ruby in to maximize my revenge damage and therefore my revenge heal.

About life on hit: is it rly that good?
especially in a3, im running / kiting more than im acutally in their face fighting. Hits with revenge, overpower or seimsmic slam (which im currently using) dont profit from life on hit - do they?

offtopic: i need a fucking stormshield :D
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Dmn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway101 Posts
June 08 2012 15:27 GMT
#1632
On June 09 2012 00:17 TheRealArtemis wrote:
I hope you guys can help me. Im level 60, inferno act 2. I still feel the common demon packs can give me more trouble then whats it worth. (elites are also bit too hard)

I hope you can perhaps guide me into being a better barb. What to aim for on AH etc. I know all resist, armor and vit are good. But should I try to spend millions on LoH? Perhaps more on a Block chance shield, instead of resis and armor? I dunno.

My stats.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My weapon
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My shield
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Feel free to ask me what my other gear have in stats, if it helps you guide me =) thx.

Btw, I only solo sometimes to farm. Mostly I play with my DH brother.


Are you on EU? If so, add me Dmn#2657, and I'll try to help you as best I can. I've killed diablo with 5 stacks.


KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 08 2012 15:28 GMT
#1633
On June 09 2012 00:17 TheRealArtemis wrote:
I hope you guys can help me. Im level 60, inferno act 2. I still feel the common demon packs can give me more trouble then whats it worth. (elites are also bit too hard)

I hope you can perhaps guide me into being a better barb. What to aim for on AH etc. I know all resist, armor and vit are good. But should I try to spend millions on LoH? Perhaps more on a Block chance shield, instead of resis and armor? I dunno.

My stats.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My weapon
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My shield
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Feel free to ask me what my other gear have in stats, if it helps you guide me =) thx.

Btw, I only solo sometimes to farm. Mostly I play with my DH brother.



bad str to vita ratio - replace 200 STR with 200 VITA and youre better off.

also, you need a lot more resistances and armor. like - even if those stats were unbuffed, youd still need slightly more resis - and i guess those are buffed^^
wouldnt spend much on LoH right now - even though some ppl say its essential (im against that btw), with a limited amount of money you should obviously focus on res/armor/vita
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Dmn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway101 Posts
June 08 2012 15:34 GMT
#1634
On June 09 2012 00:28 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 00:17 TheRealArtemis wrote:
I hope you guys can help me. Im level 60, inferno act 2. I still feel the common demon packs can give me more trouble then whats it worth. (elites are also bit too hard)

I hope you can perhaps guide me into being a better barb. What to aim for on AH etc. I know all resist, armor and vit are good. But should I try to spend millions on LoH? Perhaps more on a Block chance shield, instead of resis and armor? I dunno.

My stats.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My weapon
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My shield
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Feel free to ask me what my other gear have in stats, if it helps you guide me =) thx.

Btw, I only solo sometimes to farm. Mostly I play with my DH brother.



bad str to vita ratio - replace 200 STR with 200 VITA and youre better off.

also, you need a lot more resistances and armor. like - even if those stats were unbuffed, youd still need slightly more resis - and i guess those are buffed^^
wouldnt spend much on LoH right now - even though some ppl say its essential (im against that btw), with a limited amount of money you should obviously focus on res/armor/vita


No, 1:1 ratio is good, don't replace 200 str with 200 vit, that's awful. 47k hp is enough, and trading str for more vit won't benefit you at all. However, you are right in that he needs more resists/armor. I'm wondering if that screenshot is when using both armor passives/warcry/enchantress (you can't be with that amount of str/vit).
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 15:38:01
June 08 2012 15:36 GMT
#1635
On June 09 2012 00:28 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 00:17 TheRealArtemis wrote:
I hope you guys can help me. Im level 60, inferno act 2. I still feel the common demon packs can give me more trouble then whats it worth. (elites are also bit too hard)

I hope you can perhaps guide me into being a better barb. What to aim for on AH etc. I know all resist, armor and vit are good. But should I try to spend millions on LoH? Perhaps more on a Block chance shield, instead of resis and armor? I dunno.

My stats.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My weapon
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My shield
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Feel free to ask me what my other gear have in stats, if it helps you guide me =) thx.

Btw, I only solo sometimes to farm. Mostly I play with my DH brother.



bad str to vita ratio - replace 200 STR with 200 VITA and youre better off.

also, you need a lot more resistances and armor. like - even if those stats were unbuffed, youd still need slightly more resis - and i guess those are buffed^^
wouldnt spend much on LoH right now - even though some ppl say its essential (im against that btw), with a limited amount of money you should obviously focus on res/armor/vita



Thanks for the answer. Nope, the stats arent buffed in any way. I dont use the War cry. I will edit the OP so you guys can see my skill build.

So, throw out 200 str, and more vit. What about the shield? Should I aim for more block chance or?
I actually agree with the more vit thing. I've always felt I can do more dmg with a better 1 hand later on. str is like a bonus for me if I find high res vit gear.

On June 09 2012 00:34 Dmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 00:28 KalWarkov wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:17 TheRealArtemis wrote:
I hope you guys can help me. Im level 60, inferno act 2. I still feel the common demon packs can give me more trouble then whats it worth. (elites are also bit too hard)

I hope you can perhaps guide me into being a better barb. What to aim for on AH etc. I know all resist, armor and vit are good. But should I try to spend millions on LoH? Perhaps more on a Block chance shield, instead of resis and armor? I dunno.

My stats.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My weapon
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My shield
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Feel free to ask me what my other gear have in stats, if it helps you guide me =) thx.

Btw, I only solo sometimes to farm. Mostly I play with my DH brother.



bad str to vita ratio - replace 200 STR with 200 VITA and youre better off.

also, you need a lot more resistances and armor. like - even if those stats were unbuffed, youd still need slightly more resis - and i guess those are buffed^^
wouldnt spend much on LoH right now - even though some ppl say its essential (im against that btw), with a limited amount of money you should obviously focus on res/armor/vita


No, 1:1 ratio is good, don't replace 200 str with 200 vit, that's awful. 47k hp is enough, and trading str for more vit won't benefit you at all. However, you are right in that he needs more resists/armor. I'm wondering if that screenshot is when using both armor passives/warcry/enchantress (you can't be with that amount of str/vit).


Hm, so the ratio is good? No buffs.
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
Dmn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 15:42:53
June 08 2012 15:41 GMT
#1636
On June 09 2012 00:36 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 00:28 KalWarkov wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:17 TheRealArtemis wrote:
I hope you guys can help me. Im level 60, inferno act 2. I still feel the common demon packs can give me more trouble then whats it worth. (elites are also bit too hard)

I hope you can perhaps guide me into being a better barb. What to aim for on AH etc. I know all resist, armor and vit are good. But should I try to spend millions on LoH? Perhaps more on a Block chance shield, instead of resis and armor? I dunno.

My stats.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My weapon
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My shield
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Feel free to ask me what my other gear have in stats, if it helps you guide me =) thx.

Btw, I only solo sometimes to farm. Mostly I play with my DH brother.



bad str to vita ratio - replace 200 STR with 200 VITA and youre better off.

also, you need a lot more resistances and armor. like - even if those stats were unbuffed, youd still need slightly more resis - and i guess those are buffed^^
wouldnt spend much on LoH right now - even though some ppl say its essential (im against that btw), with a limited amount of money you should obviously focus on res/armor/vita



Thanks for the answer. Nope, the stats arent buffed in any way. I dont use the War cry. I will edit the OP so you guys can see my skill build.

So, throw out 200 str, and more vit. What about the shield? Should I aim for more block chance or?
I actually agree with the more vit thing. I've always felt I can do more dmg with a better 1 hand later on. str is like a bonus for me if I find high res vit gear.

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 00:34 Dmn wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:28 KalWarkov wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:17 TheRealArtemis wrote:
I hope you guys can help me. Im level 60, inferno act 2. I still feel the common demon packs can give me more trouble then whats it worth. (elites are also bit too hard)

I hope you can perhaps guide me into being a better barb. What to aim for on AH etc. I know all resist, armor and vit are good. But should I try to spend millions on LoH? Perhaps more on a Block chance shield, instead of resis and armor? I dunno.

My stats.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My weapon
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My shield
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Feel free to ask me what my other gear have in stats, if it helps you guide me =) thx.

Btw, I only solo sometimes to farm. Mostly I play with my DH brother.



bad str to vita ratio - replace 200 STR with 200 VITA and youre better off.

also, you need a lot more resistances and armor. like - even if those stats were unbuffed, youd still need slightly more resis - and i guess those are buffed^^
wouldnt spend much on LoH right now - even though some ppl say its essential (im against that btw), with a limited amount of money you should obviously focus on res/armor/vita


No, 1:1 ratio is good, don't replace 200 str with 200 vit, that's awful. 47k hp is enough, and trading str for more vit won't benefit you at all. However, you are right in that he needs more resists/armor. I'm wondering if that screenshot is when using both armor passives/warcry/enchantress (you can't be with that amount of str/vit).


Hm, so the ratio is good? No buffs.


Yes, the ratio is good. And you have almost 600 all resist unbuffed without using warcry? Start using warcry with impunity (I'd also recommend swapping out earthquake for revenge with provocation and possibly wotb for charge with dreadnought), get a good shield and you'll faceroll through act 2.

For shields, disregard all stats and look for sacred shields (3,7k-4,7k block amount) with 27%+ block chance. That'll be a ton better than your current one, even if you lose some stats.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 08 2012 15:43 GMT
#1637
On June 09 2012 00:34 Dmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 00:28 KalWarkov wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:17 TheRealArtemis wrote:
I hope you guys can help me. Im level 60, inferno act 2. I still feel the common demon packs can give me more trouble then whats it worth. (elites are also bit too hard)

I hope you can perhaps guide me into being a better barb. What to aim for on AH etc. I know all resist, armor and vit are good. But should I try to spend millions on LoH? Perhaps more on a Block chance shield, instead of resis and armor? I dunno.

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Feel free to ask me what my other gear have in stats, if it helps you guide me =) thx.

Btw, I only solo sometimes to farm. Mostly I play with my DH brother.



bad str to vita ratio - replace 200 STR with 200 VITA and youre better off.

also, you need a lot more resistances and armor. like - even if those stats were unbuffed, youd still need slightly more resis - and i guess those are buffed^^
wouldnt spend much on LoH right now - even though some ppl say its essential (im against that btw), with a limited amount of money you should obviously focus on res/armor/vita


No, 1:1 ratio is good, don't replace 200 str with 200 vit, that's awful. 47k hp is enough, and trading str for more vit won't benefit you at all. However, you are right in that he needs more resists/armor. I'm wondering if that screenshot is when using both armor passives/warcry/enchantress (you can't be with that amount of str/vit).



1-1 ratio is good in case you reached the right amount of vit. in his case, id at least focus purely on vit now instead of str till hes at 1.4k vit or sth. for someone who killed diablo, 1-1 ratio might be optimal, but if he has problems to survive stuff, vit is much more important right now.
but ye, armor/res is the key. thats why u NEED warcry. barb without warcry is like a solo wizard without diamond skin^^
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TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
June 08 2012 15:47 GMT
#1638
On June 09 2012 00:41 Dmn wrote:
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On June 09 2012 00:36 TheRealArtemis wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:28 KalWarkov wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:17 TheRealArtemis wrote:
I hope you guys can help me. Im level 60, inferno act 2. I still feel the common demon packs can give me more trouble then whats it worth. (elites are also bit too hard)

I hope you can perhaps guide me into being a better barb. What to aim for on AH etc. I know all resist, armor and vit are good. But should I try to spend millions on LoH? Perhaps more on a Block chance shield, instead of resis and armor? I dunno.

My stats.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My weapon
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My shield
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Feel free to ask me what my other gear have in stats, if it helps you guide me =) thx.

Btw, I only solo sometimes to farm. Mostly I play with my DH brother.




bad str to vita ratio - replace 200 STR with 200 VITA and youre better off.

also, you need a lot more resistances and armor. like - even if those stats were unbuffed, youd still need slightly more resis - and i guess those are buffed^^
wouldnt spend much on LoH right now - even though some ppl say its essential (im against that btw), with a limited amount of money you should obviously focus on res/armor/vita



Thanks for the answer. Nope, the stats arent buffed in any way. I dont use the War cry. I will edit the OP so you guys can see my skill build.

So, throw out 200 str, and more vit. What about the shield? Should I aim for more block chance or?
I actually agree with the more vit thing. I've always felt I can do more dmg with a better 1 hand later on. str is like a bonus for me if I find high res vit gear.

On June 09 2012 00:34 Dmn wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:28 KalWarkov wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:17 TheRealArtemis wrote:
I hope you guys can help me. Im level 60, inferno act 2. I still feel the common demon packs can give me more trouble then whats it worth. (elites are also bit too hard)

I hope you can perhaps guide me into being a better barb. What to aim for on AH etc. I know all resist, armor and vit are good. But should I try to spend millions on LoH? Perhaps more on a Block chance shield, instead of resis and armor? I dunno.

My stats.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My weapon
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My shield
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Feel free to ask me what my other gear have in stats, if it helps you guide me =) thx.

Btw, I only solo sometimes to farm. Mostly I play with my DH brother.



bad str to vita ratio - replace 200 STR with 200 VITA and youre better off.

also, you need a lot more resistances and armor. like - even if those stats were unbuffed, youd still need slightly more resis - and i guess those are buffed^^
wouldnt spend much on LoH right now - even though some ppl say its essential (im against that btw), with a limited amount of money you should obviously focus on res/armor/vita


No, 1:1 ratio is good, don't replace 200 str with 200 vit, that's awful. 47k hp is enough, and trading str for more vit won't benefit you at all. However, you are right in that he needs more resists/armor. I'm wondering if that screenshot is when using both armor passives/warcry/enchantress (you can't be with that amount of str/vit).


Hm, so the ratio is good? No buffs.


Yes, the ratio is good. And you have almost 600 all resist unbuffed without using warcry? Start using warcry with impunity (I'd also recommend swapping out earthquake for revenge with provocation and possibly wotb for charge with dreadnought), get a good shield and you'll faceroll through act 2.

For shields, disregard all stats and look for sacred shields (3,7k-4,7k block amount) with 27%+ block chance. That'll be a ton better than your current one, even if you lose some stats.


I got the whole earthquake build from a guy on youtube. I think he has some videos posted in this thread. First, battle rage, then wrath of the bersker, then the +2000% earthquake, to stack alot of dmg vs the elite packs.

So, I use revenge in order to gain more health in battle?
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Dmn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
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Last Edited: 2012-06-08 15:58:40
June 08 2012 15:50 GMT
#1639
On June 09 2012 00:43 KalWarkov wrote:
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On June 09 2012 00:34 Dmn wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:28 KalWarkov wrote:
On June 09 2012 00:17 TheRealArtemis wrote:
I hope you guys can help me. Im level 60, inferno act 2. I still feel the common demon packs can give me more trouble then whats it worth. (elites are also bit too hard)

I hope you can perhaps guide me into being a better barb. What to aim for on AH etc. I know all resist, armor and vit are good. But should I try to spend millions on LoH? Perhaps more on a Block chance shield, instead of resis and armor? I dunno.

My stats.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My weapon
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


My shield
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Feel free to ask me what my other gear have in stats, if it helps you guide me =) thx.

Btw, I only solo sometimes to farm. Mostly I play with my DH brother.



bad str to vita ratio - replace 200 STR with 200 VITA and youre better off.

also, you need a lot more resistances and armor. like - even if those stats were unbuffed, youd still need slightly more resis - and i guess those are buffed^^
wouldnt spend much on LoH right now - even though some ppl say its essential (im against that btw), with a limited amount of money you should obviously focus on res/armor/vita


No, 1:1 ratio is good, don't replace 200 str with 200 vit, that's awful. 47k hp is enough, and trading str for more vit won't benefit you at all. However, you are right in that he needs more resists/armor. I'm wondering if that screenshot is when using both armor passives/warcry/enchantress (you can't be with that amount of str/vit).



1-1 ratio is good in case you reached the right amount of vit. in his case, id at least focus purely on vit now instead of str till hes at 1.4k vit or sth. for someone who killed diablo, 1-1 ratio might be optimal, but if he has problems to survive stuff, vit is much more important right now.
but ye, armor/res is the key. thats why u NEED warcry. barb without warcry is like a solo wizard without diamond skin^^


No offense, but you're talking pure bullshit. Tell me, how far into inferno are you? You don't need 1,4k vitality, HP is not the key to surviving. Armor, resists and good block% and block amount are. 47k hp is enough, although getting above 50k wouldn't hurt, but to do that I would much rather find some +life% as that would scale a lot better with the amount of vit he has as relative to his life% (the more vit you have the better life% becomes and the more life% you have the better vit becomes, they scale with each other, that's common sense).

I would even go as far and claim it is better to have 200 more str than vit, cause you usually have a decent amount of life% to give you the amount of HP you need with slightly less vitality. DPS is far more important than what people give it credit for.

On June 09 2012 00:47 TheRealArtemis wrote:

I got the whole earthquake build from a guy on youtube. I think he has some videos posted in this thread. First, battle rage, then wrath of the bersker, then the +2000% earthquake, to stack alot of dmg vs the elite packs.

So, I use revenge in order to gain more health in battle?


WOTB/EQ build is a sort-of gimmicky build that works best with 2 handers, and is most of the time used on farm content to kill off elites super quickly. It is not a good build in general.

In your current build you have absolutely no way of regaining health (except for ignore pain which is a 4% life steal for 5 seconds every 30). You need revenge and also preferably furious charge. Especially since you also dont have any life on hit.
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
June 08 2012 16:00 GMT
#1640
Havent seen much Whirlwind being used in D3, is the skill viable still?
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