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rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
June 07 2012 22:38 GMT
#1581
Hey guys, a quick question, im a lvl 58 on Act 3, and just wondering what i should be going for in terms of Vitality or Strength, as in, is vitality going to benefit me more than a higher armor rating? or should i be going 50% each. i have 6 gems right now, 3 in strength, 3 in Vit, just wondering if theres an ideal ratio, or if just one is all around better.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 22:59:52
June 07 2012 22:43 GMT
#1582
On June 08 2012 07:20 LancerJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 06:28 TheYango wrote:
So, on the flip side of the coin, what should I be farming?

I was in a similar position a week ago. Could clear act 2 but farming it was inefficient (aside form Goblins which I personally found boring). I didn't have an offense + MF set for goblins anyway, nor people on my friend list I could farm them with. Maghda runs took too long due to bad base mob types on the elites and Kulle -> Belial runs were off the table due to Kulle needing a weapon throw build for me. Going back to Warden/Butcher wasn't an option due to low ilvl.

I went for Iskatu runs after Shikyo raved about them and that's worked out really well for me. I've made about 30mil in 20 hours but I believe I was fairly lucky (had an amulet drop I sold for 10mil). With commodity auctions back online the profits have gone up a bit, too, enough to partially offset the flood of ilvl 63 blues on the AH.

Unfortunately I was delayed on the Act 2 to Act 3 transition by first leveling a Demon Hunter from 1-60 for farming Whimsyshire. Even a fresh 60 DH can handle the Act 3-level trash in Whimsyshire because they're all melee (and they give ilvl 63 loot) but the elites were too obnoxious to farm it easily. Granted if I invested more than ~1.5mil in the DH's gear and some time to learn to kite better I might have made that work but Iskatu solved the problem anyway.

That sort of matched my gut feeling, but I had a dry spell of getting nothing sellable from Iskatu runs. Guess I'll go back to them, as they're pretty painless compared to every other option.

On June 08 2012 07:17 hunts wrote:
Anyone know of an EHP calculator thing that includes block? Trying to figure out if I should buy a helm of command or not. Or can anyone tell me just how good block is?

Block doesn't factor easily into EHP because it depends on how much post-mitigation damage you're actually taking. Since it's a flat amount, it's more effective mitigation vs. small hits, and less effective vs. big ones.
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Lemonerer
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel135 Posts
June 07 2012 23:07 GMT
#1583
OK guys so I have cleared act 3 inferno finally, thanks alot to this thread :D

I now farm Spiderlady + Azmodan in 30-50 minutes pretty easy, although Its way too hard to get valor in the long way down that tower, I get my valor from easier places and then just leap/charge my way to the Spider and after that to Azmodan himself.
Its really much easier and I recommend everyone doing that

Now my question is what items do I need to change before I can clear act 4! what would you guys recommend to change?

My biggest problem is obviously my weapon but I see in the AH that good weapons go now for like 20M (!!!)

So my question about a weapon, should I buy a 1k dps weapon (mb with vita and str) just to make it easier and faster for me to do Azmodan runs or should I wait the loooong time for the 20M weapons?
It will take me a really long time to get 20M I think :S

Really need help deciding that and also need to know if I should change any other gear!

My stats: http://imageshack.us/f/805/barbstats2.jpg/

My gear: http://imageshack.us/f/411/barbitems2.png/

Thanks so much guys!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 07 2012 23:11 GMT
#1584
congrats on your progress.

You have very nice stats but very low dps. I notice your HP is SUPER high, perhaps you should try changing out your vit gems for strength. Sure you'll lose some life but I don't think you need that much and the extra dps boost may help more than you would imagine. I can't hurt and it's super cheap way to sidegrade gear; just swap gems!
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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
June 07 2012 23:51 GMT
#1585
Just got so lucky, sniped this helm of command off the AH for 2.9m

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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 00:20:09
June 08 2012 00:18 GMT
#1586
On June 08 2012 08:11 crms wrote:
congrats on your progress.

You have very nice stats but very low dps. I notice your HP is SUPER high, perhaps you should try changing out your vit gems for strength. Sure you'll lose some life but I don't think you need that much and the extra dps boost may help more than you would imagine. I can't hurt and it's super cheap way to sidegrade gear; just swap gems!

Agreed. Your Str/Vit balance seems way out of whack compared to any Barb I've seen.

Even if it doesn't let you do A4, I imagine swapping Vit for Str would cut down your farming time considerably.

As far as weapon upgrades, I'd say try to at least sidegrade for something that has some Life on Hit, or a socket (to put an Amethyst in). Your mitigation is so high that you should get enormous value out of the LoH healing.
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mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
June 08 2012 00:31 GMT
#1587
Can anyone rate my Barb ACT I in Hell. What do I need to look for in items other than obvious res, to get myself prepared act by act for Nightmare.

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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 08 2012 00:32 GMT
#1588
You mean Inferno? You need more resist, more DPS, more armor, more HP... basically everything?
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
June 08 2012 00:36 GMT
#1589
On June 08 2012 09:32 skyR wrote:
You mean Inferno? You need more resist, more DPS, more armor, more HP... basically everything?


Ya I mean inferno. Yes but i meant more what should come first. Resist or HP? DPS will come naturally with better weapons and +% weapon dmg on them, so thats no problem. Armor isn't an issue too cuz it comes with items naturally.
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
June 08 2012 02:11 GMT
#1590
On June 08 2012 09:36 mtn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 09:32 skyR wrote:
You mean Inferno? You need more resist, more DPS, more armor, more HP... basically everything?


Ya I mean inferno. Yes but i meant more what should come first. Resist or HP? DPS will come naturally with better weapons and +% weapon dmg on them, so thats no problem. Armor isn't an issue too cuz it comes with items naturally.


I would say All Resist should be your top priority if your just starting inferno.
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 02:23:11
June 08 2012 02:22 GMT
#1591
im in a worse situation than all of you lot it feels like ;/ every time i take a look at act2 i seem to just get trolled by the mob type + affix combinations, to the point where i just believe that every mob type in act2 is a piece of shit. so im farming butcher for money until i can handle act3, not sure what else to do.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 08 2012 02:30 GMT
#1592
Act 3 sucks just as bad if not worse than act 2.
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
June 08 2012 02:38 GMT
#1593
On June 08 2012 11:30 skyR wrote:
Act 3 sucks just as bad if not worse than act 2.


Personally I found A2 the time when I most wanted to punch myself in the face.
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 02:41:06
June 08 2012 02:38 GMT
#1594
On June 08 2012 11:30 skyR wrote:
Act 3 sucks just as bad if not worse than act 2.


I like Act III better in general. Inferno Act III is very hard though.

Is anyone looking forward to 1.03?
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 03:13:53
June 08 2012 03:03 GMT
#1595
im at the point where A2 is easy and A3 is fucking hard for me
im still wondering about ur skillsets - all those leap and charge builds... arent those quite gimmicky :/ Dont wanna play like that^^

my skills / stats here (buffed, ench 59 cause i had templar till now :D )

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What should i look out for the most?
i know i need a stormshield, but my shield is okish (low block) and stormshield is expensive as ****
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 08 2012 03:09 GMT
#1596
How is having a gap-closer that doubles as a survivability cooldown gimmicky?

Immediate advice I can give is swap the ruby in your weapon for an amethyst. I'd much rather have 200 life on hit than that 25 weapon damage.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 08 2012 03:43 GMT
#1597
You realize Leap / Furious Charge allows you to stand through Frost Nova right..? If you want to make the game harder on yourself than okay... lol.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
June 08 2012 03:45 GMT
#1598
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Baobab
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)153 Posts
June 08 2012 04:43 GMT
#1599
Have any of you tried the 2h barb instead of sword & shield?

My barb hit 60 a couple of days ago and, inspired by this thread, I decided I would forgo sword & board and stick to my trusty 2-hander instead.

So far, I'm abolutely loving it.

I made some money farming Act 3 on my wiz, and I spent roughly 1.5 mil on items for my barb. Started Inferno yesterday, and to my great surprise Act 1 was a joke.

I switched up that guy's build a little, using Revenge instead of Shockwave, so that I could use Berserker Rage and get +25% damage. So, using Reckless, Weapons Master (with a mace), and Berserker Rage passives, I had roughly 35k dps, 31% crit, and 210% crit damage (my weap has both +60 crit damage % and a socket). Resists were sitting at 600(buffed), armor at ~5800, and hp at 35k, but I blew through everything despite my somewhat low defense. With the WotB+Insanity/Earthquake/Ignore Pain+Ignorance is Bliss combo, any pack of elites melted in seconds, and even without cooldowns I pretty much blew through them. Butcher was down in about 15 seconds flat, 100k crits ftw.

So, I was at Act 2 and thought to myself, "Now I'm gonna get my ass kicked. Here's the brick wall everyone's been talking about." But, nope. Switched out Weapons Master for Nerves of Steel and just kept on trucking, got to Maghda last night with only about ~2 deaths to an annoying pack of bees, killed every pack along the way.

Anyways, I'm sure I need more resists and armor for act 3, but I'll be damned if this isn't the funnest character to play in the game. I feel like a rampaging badass, and I've all but forgotten about my wizard.

If any of you are bored of defensive specs, check this build out, I highly recommend it
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
June 08 2012 04:50 GMT
#1600
What did you buy with 1.5 million? I spent 4 million to get my barbarian started, and while he's pretty strong, it's not the faceroll that I was hoping to have purchased.
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