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Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
September 30 2012 22:18 GMT
#3241
On October 01 2012 07:13 ArC_man wrote:
I was using a 1.4 axe (had some attack speed on it) with a 1.4 sword. Only IAS I had was the 9% from Andy's so my attack speed should be lower than you guys.

Yea I have 30% more attack speed than you, then. I'm hoping the raw crit and attack speed will be enough, but we'll see. I just couldn't get onto PTR, so I'm forced to wait for patch.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
October 01 2012 02:47 GMT
#3242
Just found an IK belt to get me up to 3 piece IK (also found my gloves ). Can't decide if I should keep or sell and use the gold to gear up multiple other pieces...any opinions?

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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
October 01 2012 02:57 GMT
#3243
i would keep the belt.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
October 01 2012 03:41 GMT
#3244
On October 01 2012 11:47 Charger wrote:
Just found an IK belt to get me up to 3 piece IK (also found my gloves ). Can't decide if I should keep or sell and use the gold to gear up multiple other pieces...any opinions?

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hey man what's with your low dps sword? do you lose a high amount of dmg because of it? maybe i should do that cause im poor. lol
hey man just curious
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 03:46:19
October 01 2012 03:42 GMT
#3245
You lose character sheet damage but not 'real' damage. With ww the off hand damage doesn't matter, just the stats on it. :p

edit - When you use bash to generate fury or single target enemies it can be a problem so careful with that. When I get the gold I will upgrade to a higher dps off hand and one with more crit damage.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
October 01 2012 05:57 GMT
#3246
On October 01 2012 12:42 Charger wrote:
You lose character sheet damage but not 'real' damage. With ww the off hand damage doesn't matter, just the stats on it. :p

edit - When you use bash to generate fury or single target enemies it can be a problem so careful with that. When I get the gold I will upgrade to a higher dps off hand and one with more crit damage.

Actually WW damage does count your offhand it is sprint that uses only main hand damage.
You are probably talking about WW as a build but just clarifying.
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
Balmix
Profile Joined May 2010
France12 Posts
October 01 2012 08:29 GMT
#3247
By the way, I'm wondering, what's up with WW dmg being so low?

I crit for 100k+ with bash, and seem to crit for 20k with WW, when on paper they're supposed to do respectively 160 and 145% dmg.
My sprint tornado seem to do as almost much raw dmg as WW.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
October 01 2012 12:57 GMT
#3248
On October 01 2012 17:29 Balmix wrote:
By the way, I'm wondering, what's up with WW dmg being so low?

I crit for 100k+ with bash, and seem to crit for 20k with WW, when on paper they're supposed to do respectively 160 and 145% dmg.
My sprint tornado seem to do as almost much raw dmg as WW.

all hits that ww does withing one timeframe combined deal 145% damage. as it attacks so fast, this means that each single attack of ww deals something like 20 or 30%.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
October 01 2012 12:58 GMT
#3249
On October 01 2012 14:57 vol_ wrote:
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On October 01 2012 12:42 Charger wrote:
You lose character sheet damage but not 'real' damage. With ww the off hand damage doesn't matter, just the stats on it. :p

edit - When you use bash to generate fury or single target enemies it can be a problem so careful with that. When I get the gold I will upgrade to a higher dps off hand and one with more crit damage.

Actually WW damage does count your offhand it is sprint that uses only main hand damage.
You are probably talking about WW as a build but just clarifying.


Indeed, thanks for the clarification though. I can see how my wording could be confusing.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
October 01 2012 12:59 GMT
#3250
On October 01 2012 11:57 Black Gun wrote:
i would keep the belt.


That's the way I'm leaning atm, thanks!
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 23:08:15
October 01 2012 23:07 GMT
#3251
One fun build I've been using is Seismic Slam with the reduced fury rune (replace WW with Seismic Slam), you can sustain WotB with just Seismic Slam. It's not as fast as double tornado but it's fun seeing everything fly around. You can also replace Warcry with HotA against elites since that can sustain WotB as well.
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
October 02 2012 05:52 GMT
#3252
Hey guys a lil help. I just built a WW barb but i'm having trouble keeping my fury up. I've seen krip's act 3 farming video and he seems to easily get fury even with few mobs. I have 42% crit rate. What things should I do to keep my fury up? thanks.
hey man just curious
Balmix
Profile Joined May 2010
France12 Posts
October 02 2012 06:48 GMT
#3253
42% crit is definately enough in 1.0.4, you're just doing it wrong. Sprint is the fury generator, WW the spender. Unfortunately it's all going to change soon and you'll have to adapt in 1.0.5.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 02 2012 07:36 GMT
#3254
Keep in mind Kripp also uses a mighty weapon as well as animosity as a passive so his fury generation will be a lot higher than you if you're using an axe without animosity.
IcedteaDota
Profile Joined January 2011
223 Posts
October 03 2012 06:11 GMT
#3255
Hey guys I am trying to finish inferno on act 3. As a Barb how do you guys deal with the fallen maniacs(suicide guys) they kill me in 1 hit everytime. i have over 6000 armor ~350 AR 40k+hp. If someone could help that would be great. the only thing i can do atm is area stun and kill some of them first but they come in packs of 5+ and usually i can't kill them all by the time stun is up and boom. dead. Please help thank you
zylog
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada943 Posts
October 03 2012 07:24 GMT
#3256
On October 03 2012 15:11 IcedteaSC2 wrote:
Hey guys I am trying to finish inferno on act 3. As a Barb how do you guys deal with the fallen maniacs(suicide guys) they kill me in 1 hit everytime. i have over 6000 armor ~350 AR 40k+hp. If someone could help that would be great. the only thing i can do atm is area stun and kill some of them first but they come in packs of 5+ and usually i can't kill them all by the time stun is up and boom. dead. Please help thank you

Are you playing a WW barb? If so, WW directly at them right away and keep moving forward. The goal is to hit them first before they activate their explosion attack, after which if you don't kill them your tornadoes that you leave behind should be able to.

A mistake that many make is to run backwards away from them. I don't like this for several reasons:
- this takes you further away from the next mobs, which can waste valuable wotb time
- at some point you turn to move forwards again. If you accidentally do this too soon, you'll run right into the baneling dudes and get hit
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3822 Posts
October 03 2012 07:41 GMT
#3257
On October 03 2012 15:11 IcedteaSC2 wrote:
Hey guys I am trying to finish inferno on act 3. As a Barb how do you guys deal with the fallen maniacs(suicide guys) they kill me in 1 hit everytime. i have over 6000 armor ~350 AR 40k+hp. If someone could help that would be great. the only thing i can do atm is area stun and kill some of them first but they come in packs of 5+ and usually i can't kill them all by the time stun is up and boom. dead. Please help thank you


If you actually want to tank them, you need A LOT MORE.

Take my barb for instance, he is a mean tanking machine.

10.500 Armor, 900-1100 All resistance.
48K HP.
47% block chance and a storm shield.
3 of those bitches and BOOM, dead.

Best way is to have stun, fast burst dmg. and leap/sprint to run away..

I play with a wiz friend who kill them for me.
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LingsAreBunnies
Profile Joined September 2011
United States103 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 07:59:11
October 03 2012 07:58 GMT
#3258
On September 30 2012 02:30 Black Gun wrote:
a build that seems to be quite strong is the following:

sprint, battle rage, wotb. so far so good.
but then it uses hammer of the ancients with smash rune, frenzy with maniac and overpower with crushing advance. (one could probably still use warcry impunity instead of overpower though.)

basically its a traditional melee barb instead of the mobility-based playstyle of ww/sprint. sprint is still used for hard mobs that have to be kited and to get from mob to mob more quickly.
this build is far superior than ww/sprint on high mp levels, where damage and not mobility is the limiting factor for the effectiveness of the runs.

for an example, see
http://de.twitch.tv/bloodshot01/b/333798868
at around 5:20 onwards.
he was able to solo all ubers on mp 10 in less than 5 minutes each.


I been running this recently instead of my previous 2h build, and it feels insanely strong. With my current 2.8 attack speed (with wotb), wotb can be easily sustained by just autoattacks and HoA, its got a much higher single target dps and sprint can easily deal with trash mobs/mobility. With about 7% life steal I seem to be able to fairly easily sustain even in MP10 vs most elites. It feels just as good as ww, instead of going through monsters, most of the time you can just mow monsters down with HoA in a few hits instead. Even though I lost about 60k dps from switching out of my skorn, my runs feels a lot faster now.
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
October 03 2012 08:34 GMT
#3259
On October 03 2012 15:11 IcedteaSC2 wrote:
Hey guys I am trying to finish inferno on act 3. As a Barb how do you guys deal with the fallen maniacs(suicide guys) they kill me in 1 hit everytime. i have over 6000 armor ~350 AR 40k+hp. If someone could help that would be great. the only thing i can do atm is area stun and kill some of them first but they come in packs of 5+ and usually i can't kill them all by the time stun is up and boom. dead. Please help thank you

If you're a WW/sprint barb you can kill them with your tornadoes you leave behind you. It's actually usually fine to just charge straight through them initially, but be EXTREMELY careful if they are behind doors (the doors will glow - try to learn to recognise the look).

If you're using a different build... honestly just run the hell away. 12% (or more) movement speed helps, or sprint / leap / charge. They will detonate on their own!
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Inovpow
Profile Joined October 2012
1 Post
October 04 2012 03:25 GMT
#3260
Guys, just a off -topic,

i heard about this guys Kingkongor that he was on live stream yesterday, and he was
doing giveaways, when suddenly a guy came in the stream and stole a bunch of
Legendaries, can anyone confirm?
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