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Levistus
1134 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On October 06 2012 12:11 Levistus wrote: anyone tried PTR? how's the ww barb there? if he has highend gear, you wont notice much of a difference. the gear threshold for barely making the build work, however, has risen significantly. oh, and the hota build is maybe the strongest among all classes when it comes to MP10 and the likes. | ||
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RCMDVA
United States708 Posts
I just logged in Act 3 monster power zero. Champ pack right up the first flight of stairs. Drops this amulet. 168 STR 129 VIT +16% life (sixteen) 7.5% crit And then poison resist, and life on kill. That would just be about the best drop I've seen on a live, knocking the %life down to the max of 12% or whatever it is. (i still have french PTR client) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SCf71.jpg) | ||
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Levistus
1134 Posts
On October 06 2012 12:29 Black Gun wrote: if he has highend gear, you wont notice much of a difference. the gear threshold for barely making the build work, however, has risen significantly. oh, and the hota build is maybe the strongest among all classes when it comes to MP10 and the likes. what gear do you need now that you didn't need before? can you tell me what are the requirements to make this build work. sorry for the newb questions, i'm a newb who wants to try the ww barb. also, what is the hota build? thanks bro | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On October 06 2012 17:22 Levistus wrote: what gear do you need now that you didn't need before? can you tell me what are the requirements to make this build work. sorry for the newb questions, i'm a newb who wants to try the ww barb. also, what is the hota build? thanks bro hota = hammer of the ancients. just replace ww with hota and play like a traditional barb, but with sprint for mobility between mobs. gear differences: you need either much more loh or significantly more lifesteal. and you need more armor and all res because of the warcry nerf. and you need higher crit chance to keep the fury up, in particular if you want to sustain wotb. oh, and the hp and dam on monsters in act1 and 2 is now the same as act3 and 4 if you use MP1 or higher. therefore, due to different base mob difficulties, the difficulty now is act1 slightly easier than act3 muuuuch easier than act2 much easier than act4. (horrible horrible debuffs in act4.) | ||
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Levistus
1134 Posts
buffed 35k HP 6667 Armor 870-1050 Resist 32k DPS what am i lacking? i especially die a lot from succubus elites. you can add me if you want Levistus#6434 thanks | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On October 07 2012 14:00 Levistus wrote: guys can you help me with my ww barb. i keep dying trying to do the alkaizer route. here's my stats. buffed 35k HP 6667 Armor 870-1050 Resist 32k DPS what am i lacking? i especially die a lot from succubus elites. you can add me if you want Levistus#6434 thanks how much loh and lifesteal? in general, you want more hp. 40k is the minimum for smooth gameplay imho. | ||
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Veratule
United States105 Posts
On October 07 2012 14:00 Levistus wrote: guys can you help me with my ww barb. i keep dying trying to do the alkaizer route. here's my stats. buffed 35k HP 6667 Armor 870-1050 Resist 32k DPS what am i lacking? i especially die a lot from succubus elites. you can add me if you want Levistus#6434 thanks Whirlwind works really well for me and I have less hp. I friend requested you, I'd be happy to show you what I have: Without Enchantress, With WarCry / Impunity Rune 33806 HP 7537 (71.53%) Armor 804-930 (72.84-75.26%) Resists 48396 --> 57697 (Battle Rage) DPS 857 life on hit (only on off-hand weapon) 52% crit chance w/ Battle Rage I'd be happy to discuss items to help you improve greatly. One big helper I can give is to tell you to focus on getting items with armor on them instead of all resists, the closer those two numbers are, the better your EHP will be per gold cost. I'll explain below: Lets say you have 68% dmg resist from armor and 78% from all resists. You would think that this would be roughly equal to the total damage resist from having 73% armor and 73% all resists, and it is. If an enemy does 100000 dmg, then after the first resist example you would take 100000 * (1.00-0.68) * (1.00-0.78) = 7040 dmg If an enemy does 100000 dmg, then after the second resist example you would take 100000 * (1.00-0.73) * (1.00-0.73) = 7290 dmg. The catch is that it is MUCH cheaper to get items with +50-60 resist all and a little extra armor than to get +70-80 resist items with low armor. Considering how high your resists are I would primarily suggest actually lowering your resists in trade for items with better strength (armor too), crit, attack speed, and crit damage. Andariel's Visage with a low bonus fire damage taken modifier (5-10%) is a personal favorite of mine :D. They aren't crazy expensive, they give massive damage and can give armor too. Just as long as you can go without a socket for xp gem / life gem. | ||
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Levistus
1134 Posts
On October 08 2012 01:18 Black Gun wrote: how much loh and lifesteal? in general, you want more hp. 40k is the minimum for smooth gameplay imho. i have 1k loh and 3% life steal on my belt. i upped my armor to 7220 now. i still die easily. 4-5 hits from phasebeasts, 3-4 hits from elite occulists, same with succubus. am i not supposed to be able to do this with my stats? also can anyone suggest a farming route since alkaizer is for xp. thanks edit: here's my ugly barb http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Levistus-6434/hero/21605188 | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
I feel like you have a misunderstanding of how to play the build. There's no way you can just face tank a pack of elite phase beasts, you need to always have WotB up and you need to keep moving so your tornadoes can fuel you with hp/fury. | ||
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NrG.NeverExpo
Canada2114 Posts
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m00nchile
Slovenia240 Posts
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/m00nchile-2990/hero/20383749. I know I should up my crit and critdmg, but that's expensive as hell and I don't have lots of gold (seriously, getting to 1 mill is big for me) and my next upgrade will be a shield with better blockchance. Anything else I'm missing? I'm currently doing Ghom, I'm mostly OK, still die here and there to stupid elite affixes, what could I do to start farming Cydeia and Azmodan? | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On October 09 2012 04:48 m00nchile wrote: Could anyone give me a few pointers, I'm running a sword (well, axe) and board barb, you can check my stats here: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/m00nchile-2990/hero/20383749. I know I should up my crit and critdmg, but that's expensive as hell and I don't have lots of gold (seriously, getting to 1 mill is big for me) and my next upgrade will be a shield with better blockchance. Anything else I'm missing? I'm currently doing Ghom, I'm mostly OK, still die here and there to stupid elite affixes, what could I do to start farming Cydeia and Azmodan? yes, a higher block chance shield would be nice. but i wonder if you really need that much loh. if you dont, you could get a weapon with a socket or crit dam instead. a justice lantern would be nice as well. but i know that stuff like that might be out of reach. | ||
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DODswe4
Sweden2157 Posts
On October 09 2012 04:48 m00nchile wrote: Could anyone give me a few pointers, I'm running a sword (well, axe) and board barb, you can check my stats here: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/m00nchile-2990/hero/20383749. I know I should up my crit and critdmg, but that's expensive as hell and I don't have lots of gold (seriously, getting to 1 mill is big for me) and my next upgrade will be a shield with better blockchance. Anything else I'm missing? I'm currently doing Ghom, I'm mostly OK, still die here and there to stupid elite affixes, what could I do to start farming Cydeia and Azmodan? most of your gear is quite good. I would upgrade shield first (something with 20+% block), that will most likely cost more then one million. Then your pants could have more all resist and your helm could have a socket. But really you should be able to farm Azmodian already. On your skills. When I cleared act 3 and 4 as sword and board I stopped using revenge and used ignore pain. ignore pain lets you survive better at specific points where revenge is a constant heal (which your loh already should give you enough of) | ||
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m00nchile
Slovenia240 Posts
EDIT: Also one more thing to consider, since my DPS is really low, Revenge gives me a good source of AoE damage, I think I'd have to get my DPS to at least 40k so Rend can take over as the sole source of AoE damage. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3822 Posts
On October 09 2012 05:06 m00nchile wrote: Thanks for the tips, I'll try giving Ignore Pain a spin. Just a quick question, what rune to use, Ignorance is bliss or Iron Hide? EDIT: Also one more thing to consider, since my DPS is really low, Revenge gives me a good source of AoE damage, I think I'd have to get my DPS to at least 40k so Rend can take over as the sole source of AoE damage. True. If you get 3% lifesteal on your wep and 2.8 - 3 % on your belt you can drop revenge and rely on lifesteal from both main attack and rend with ravage. (like my guy: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Grovbolle-2191/hero/3595430 ) | ||
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m00nchile
Slovenia240 Posts
On October 09 2012 06:28 Grovbolle wrote: True. If you get 3% lifesteal on your wep and 2.8 - 3 % on your belt you can drop revenge and rely on lifesteal from both main attack and rend with ravage. (like my guy: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Grovbolle-2191/hero/3595430 ) Hey, that was pretty good advice, thanks a lot. I nabbed a 900+dps axe with leech and a socket, pushed my damage from 27k to 25k (buffed) and I still seem to keep up the sustain against elites. I'll have to save up a bit for the belt, but so far I'm loving my new chopper  . | ||
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Jack_
Italy38 Posts
http://eu.battle.net/d3/it/profile/Jack-2713/hero/19521259 If not, where can i improve my gear? Thx for your help | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
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