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GrazerRinge
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
999 Posts
June 23 2013 22:22 GMT
#4781
Hi guys ^^
I have been working on my cm ww wiz for few weeks and now i can farm mp6 quite comfortable.
But still i feel that i dont have enough dps for mp7/8, especially getting additional armor/ allres is really hard!
Now i just wondering what upgrade i should look for:

my profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/DrCox-1431/hero/23825349

i also wonders that if i have to change much of my gears for archon build?
I would love to get informative feedback / opinion from anyone who uses cm ww for ubers and archon for farming frequently.

thx a lot in advance!
"Successful people don't talk much. They listen and take action."
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
June 23 2013 22:38 GMT
#4782
If you like meteor try shock pulse with living lightning (specially once you get to inferno mp1+ and there's a lot of mobs) to stack arcane dynamo, add some arcane power on crit and you end up with near infinite arcane power to spam meteors that more often than not do 75% extra damage.

Why comet when you already have blizzard and nova? I assume you are using cold blooded, but remember that its ALL damage vs chilled/frozen not just frost damage that gets increased.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 23 2013 22:41 GMT
#4783
On June 24 2013 07:22 GrazerRinge wrote:
Hi guys ^^
I have been working on my cm ww wiz for few weeks and now i can farm mp6 quite comfortable.
But still i feel that i dont have enough dps for mp7/8, especially getting additional armor/ allres is really hard!
Now i just wondering what upgrade i should look for:

my profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/DrCox-1431/hero/23825349

i also wonders that if i have to change much of my gears for archon build?
I would love to get informative feedback / opinion from anyone who uses cm ww for ubers and archon for farming frequently.

thx a lot in advance!

Would really help to say your budget. For "cheaper" upgrades (by that I mean 5-15mil each item):

Storm Crow - Get one with crit chance.
Lacuni - Can get AR with Crit.
Blackthorne's - Either get Int/Vit roll with AR, or get AR and Armor.
Chantodo's Force - Can get an Int/Vit roll, or Str/Int or Str/Vit, depends on your budget.
Tal'Rasha - Get 120+ Vit with AR.

You also have 9% too much AS. 2.83 is the Breakpoint, and you only need 62% IAS for that. That means you can drop the IAS from a Ring, Glove or Ammy and get a lot more Stats + AR.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
June 24 2013 23:08 GMT
#4784
On June 24 2013 07:22 GrazerRinge wrote:
Hi guys ^^
I have been working on my cm ww wiz for few weeks and now i can farm mp6 quite comfortable.
But still i feel that i dont have enough dps for mp7/8, especially getting additional armor/ allres is really hard!
Now i just wondering what upgrade i should look for:

my profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/DrCox-1431/hero/23825349

i also wonders that if i have to change much of my gears for archon build?
I would love to get informative feedback / opinion from anyone who uses cm ww for ubers and archon for farming frequently.

thx a lot in advance!

You have exactly same items as I!
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SlkCascade-2516/hero/22556342

Despite you having somewhat higher sheet dps (due to glass cannon (does magic weapon and/or pinpoint show up in sheet dps?)), you have kindof low cc, and low sustain. I can run MP8 without dying much (essentially only due to my own mistakes, such as "I can probably stay in these two arcane sentries, no problem, I don't need to teleport out" ), and I really don't feel I don't do enough damage. I can also stand my own on MP10 if I respec defensively with prismatic and crystal shell, although at that point I am leave most the dps to my allies.

For items:
get cc on your stormcrow instead of the +int. Even if your sheet dps goes down, it'll help you trigger more APOC and cooldowns, so you will get more chain reactions, more freeze and more diamonds skin. Your dps will increase more than what it says on the sheet.

You will be above the 2.84 breakpoint without ias on the wand. Get a socket instead. With cc from the stormcrow you will still trigger more CMs. Not sure if you need a +0.24 aps on the wand to rech above 2.84 like me, or if you can get away with less (think you have a bit more ias on your items, you'll have to do the calculation)

In general, I feel that you have very little sustain, ie loh, AR, and armour. I think you will die a lot (or have to play very carefully and thus lose dps effectively) on MP8 with this squishy build. Look at my items, there are plenty of spots where you can fit in more AR or armour, and I'd consider loh on one of the rings or ammy, but that is not mandatory I guess.

I also feel that your source is a bit bad compared to the rest of your items. You should be able to get either 9% ias and 10%cc, or higher average damage, or +vit.

For skills:
drop glass cannon for evocation. I have no idea how you can play with your low defence AND glass cannon, no prismatic, and not die heaps, even at MP6. Your dps really isn't your problem. Not only will you not get reduced defence, but evocation will give you more freeze (more defence) AND more dps (possibly more than glass cannon...) as you will get more shards and more chain reactions.

If you get more cc from item, and evocation, you will get enough cm and APOC triggers without pinpoint, and you can switch to shocking aspect which will give you much more effective dps. Or prismatic if you want to go higher MP and tank for your allies.

glgl
Tactical
Profile Joined January 2011
United States77 Posts
June 30 2013 07:58 GMT
#4785
Sup, I just came back after not playing for around 6 months. How can I increase my survivability in MP-10, specifically against elite mobs with reflect? Most other affixes I can dodge and just avoid standing in shit, or kite to stay alive, but reflect fucks me over most of the time unless I'm playing at lower MP's.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/wizard-1331/hero/11488675
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/wizard-1331/bulgogi/11488675

I prefer this archon build, but it seems like, I can stay alive a little bit easier if I actually go with storm armor and glass cannon, due to my healing being increased from my damage, but my low vitality still makes it pretty difficult, and I'd rather not gem amethyst if I can avoid it, and upgrades of what I have with all resist/vit, would take me a really really long time to farm enough to buy.

I ran CM wizard up until I got my echoing fury and mempo, after that it felt like I didn't have enough apoc to make it work anymore, but the dps increase was a worthy tradeoff.

Thanks
carmon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
June 30 2013 08:55 GMT
#4786
On June 30 2013 16:58 Tactical wrote:
Sup, I just came back after not playing for around 6 months. How can I increase my survivability in MP-10, specifically against elite mobs with reflect? Most other affixes I can dodge and just avoid standing in shit, or kite to stay alive, but reflect fucks me over most of the time unless I'm playing at lower MP's.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/wizard-1331/hero/11488675
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/wizard-1331/bulgogi/11488675

I prefer this archon build, but it seems like, I can stay alive a little bit easier if I actually go with storm armor and glass cannon, due to my healing being increased from my damage, but my low vitality still makes it pretty difficult, and I'd rather not gem amethyst if I can avoid it, and upgrades of what I have with all resist/vit, would take me a really really long time to farm enough to buy.

I ran CM wizard up until I got my echoing fury and mempo, after that it felt like I didn't have enough apoc to make it work anymore, but the dps increase was a worthy tradeoff.

Thanks


you need lifesteal on weapon imo for mp10.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
June 30 2013 09:00 GMT
#4787
1) Why do you want to play archon at MP 10? No point whatsoever. No matter if you are farming XP, essences or keys, an archon build, even with 350k dps, will not be most efficient (in terms of [your farming goal] per time). Only reason I can see is bragging right: "I run archon on MP10, and get all the gurlz!". I am archon at 210k dps, and run most efficiently around MP4 or MP5, depending on what I want.

2) Archon without LS is sensitive to RD. So get a weapon with LS. You wil likely have to drop in dps, but that is fine. Your runs will still be much faster, as you won't have to slow down any longer, and you can pick skills for max dps.

3) For additional RD defense, it is physical damage. get more AR, armour and res physical. But you will need LS as well.

4) Your skills makes no sense. You are half archon, half cm/ww without ww... From your passives I guess you run out of archon often, as you feel you need cm and evocation... This is a sign that you are at too high MP. Drop down to a MP where you can stay in archon until your passives run out and you hve to refresh. For your dps (assuming you get that life steal), that will be maybe MP7 or something.

At lower MPs and with a LS weapon, you can build for dps and just plow through everything. The build I use (and ofc think is the best archon build, as I use it ) is this:

for non-archon: doesn't matter as you are in archon always. I use healing blades and blizzard.
boosts: magic weapon with blood magic or force weapon. Sparkfint. storm armour with scramble.
passives: glass cannon, galvanizing ward, temporal flux.

As you see, all passives are picked to help your archon. You waste all your passives on skills that are useless when you are in archon form. You wil kill fast enough to stay archon, and nothing will damage you faster than your LS with all the dps and temporal flux.

glgl
Tactical
Profile Joined January 2011
United States77 Posts
June 30 2013 14:59 GMT
#4788
On June 30 2013 18:00 Cascade wrote:
1) Why do you want to play archon at MP 10? No point whatsoever. No matter if you are farming XP, essences or keys, an archon build, even with 350k dps, will not be most efficient (in terms of [your farming goal] per time). Only reason I can see is bragging right: "I run archon on MP10, and get all the gurlz!". I am archon at 210k dps, and run most efficiently around MP4 or MP5, depending on what I want.

2) Archon without LS is sensitive to RD. So get a weapon with LS. You wil likely have to drop in dps, but that is fine. Your runs will still be much faster, as you won't have to slow down any longer, and you can pick skills for max dps.

3) For additional RD defense, it is physical damage. get more AR, armour and res physical. But you will need LS as well.

4) Your skills makes no sense. You are half archon, half cm/ww without ww... From your passives I guess you run out of archon often, as you feel you need cm and evocation... This is a sign that you are at too high MP. Drop down to a MP where you can stay in archon until your passives run out and you hve to refresh. For your dps (assuming you get that life steal), that will be maybe MP7 or something.

At lower MPs and with a LS weapon, you can build for dps and just plow through everything. The build I use (and ofc think is the best archon build, as I use it ) is this:

for non-archon: doesn't matter as you are in archon always. I use healing blades and blizzard.
boosts: magic weapon with blood magic or force weapon. Sparkfint. storm armour with scramble.
passives: glass cannon, galvanizing ward, temporal flux.

As you see, all passives are picked to help your archon. You waste all your passives on skills that are useless when you are in archon form. You wil kill fast enough to stay archon, and nothing will damage you faster than your LS with all the dps and temporal flux.

glgl


I play archon because it's fun, whenever I play CM wiz, I literally fall asleep at my keyboard because it takes almost no reaction or positioning whatsoever, you just teleport into the elite pack, and spam left click+123 as fast as you can. Also because I like insane damage. Fully buffed with glass cannon my sheet dps is around 650k, add bone chill + cold blooded, and you kill shit really really fast. http://i.imgur.com/dYGu2ZF.png

With the life steal rune for magic weapon, between that and healing blades I don't have that much of a problem with survivability or damage, it's just the elite packs with reflect that I have trouble with. Which you addressed in 2 and 3, thank you, I will try to find upgrades with more AR/PR, and swapping weapons I guess is my best option for the moment when I need to.

As for your fourth point, I actually don't run out of archon that often with my buffed dps, I still rip through trash easily, and as long as I pull elite packs to packs of trash, I can keep it up in-between elite packs as well. I use CM because it's a fucking awesome passive, being able to reset all of your cooldowns very quickly is really handy, especially when I can spam frost nova and be dealing 35% extra damage to the frozen targets with cold blooded and bone chill, Sometimes I'll alternate glass cannon with evocation, just kind of depends on how I feel like running at the time.

The build isn't designed to just eternally keep archon up, it's designed so that when your archon is down for the short duration, you're still maximizing dps by spamfreezing everything and doing extra damage, and resetting your cooldowns very quickly, especially for the rare occasion when you actually do die, or decide to intentionally cancel archon, you can have it available again very quickly. When my archon drops, probably 90% of the time, I can instantly re-apply it, and the few times I don't, it's usually within just a few seconds of spamming blades and nova and it's back again.

Plus, if I'm taking really really heavy damage, from affixes or ranged attackers, or just mobs that can hit really really hard, I can intentionally cancel archon and doing the extra damage is also increases my healing received from blades/blood magic, and then just reapply archon again. Galvanizing Ward isn't really worth taking imho, the health regen is kind of worthless unless you're stacking other gear with health regen, and there's no real need for the extra 2 minutes of your armor spell, when you can reapply it at any time. (At low/mid mp's I guess you could take it since you'll probably forever be in archon form, but with CM it wouldn't even make a difference, since you can cancel and rebuff whenever you want.) And Temporal flux just seems kind of a trash passive, since everything should be dying before it can touch you anyways, with the exception of elites with extra health or shielding perhaps.

Thanks for the advice regarding the resists though, that's something I've kind of neglected when I switched from CM.
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
July 04 2013 21:30 GMT
#4789
great thread
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 04:12:47
July 10 2013 04:11 GMT
#4790
Pardon me for asking but why aren't more people using the Short Fuse rune instead of Chain Reaction with Explosive Blast?

To me it seems like spamming 225% DPS vs. 97% DPS the Short Fuse rune should be a clear winner. But still when reading on forums and checking peoples profiles it's hardly used. Why is that??

Maybe I'm using it wrong but I'd say the 6 second cooldown should more likely be a 1-2 second cooldown so it still delivers more DPS than Chain Reaction. Perhaps it's an issue of Arcane Power usage and regeneration? But I don't seem to have problems with that.

Anyways it's just something I've been wondering about and I'd like to know if there were some theorycrafting I was missing to see if I were playing it wrong

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Enickma-2780/hero/3372093
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Sub Zero
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland117 Posts
July 10 2013 04:59 GMT
#4791
3*97=291% for chain reaction
and more procs
Jaedong <3 Boxer <3 MMA <3
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
July 11 2013 08:50 GMT
#4792
On July 10 2013 13:59 Sub Zero wrote:
3*97=291% for chain reaction
and more procs


Yeah sure that's the "easy" calculation that 3 times Chain Reaction of 97% DPS = 291% > 1 time Short Fuse of 225% DPS.

But then again it takes 1.5 second to "charge" the Chain Reaction before the 3 fast cascades whereas the Short Fuse rune is an instantaneous one-time hit. Say it takes 0.5 seconds per cascade to be released that's a total of 1.5 + 0.5 + 0.5 + 0.5 = 3 seconds to do 291% DPS. So by that logic is Chain Reaction really "better" by giving more DPS?

Also I don't know what happens if you RE-cast a Chain Reaction after say the first or even the second cascade but before the third and final cascade? Is it then just a "wasted" cascade or do they stack or the remaining cascades gets insta-hit to make room for a new Chain Reaction?

I hope you get my points and concerns as I don't have any knowledge or theorycrafting of the actual numbers and stuff but just something I've been wondering about. Hope someone more clever with more insight might give me some answers
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 11 2013 09:01 GMT
#4793
On July 11 2013 17:50 3nickma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 13:59 Sub Zero wrote:
3*97=291% for chain reaction
and more procs


Yeah sure that's the "easy" calculation that 3 times Chain Reaction of 97% DPS = 291% > 1 time Short Fuse of 225% DPS.

But then again it takes 1.5 second to "charge" the Chain Reaction before the 3 fast cascades whereas the Short Fuse rune is an instantaneous one-time hit. Say it takes 0.5 seconds per cascade to be released that's a total of 1.5 + 0.5 + 0.5 + 0.5 = 3 seconds to do 291% DPS. So by that logic is Chain Reaction really "better" by giving more DPS?

Also I don't know what happens if you RE-cast a Chain Reaction after say the first or even the second cascade but before the third and final cascade? Is it then just a "wasted" cascade or do they stack or the remaining cascades gets insta-hit to make room for a new Chain Reaction?

I hope you get my points and concerns as I don't have any knowledge or theorycrafting of the actual numbers and stuff but just something I've been wondering about. Hope someone more clever with more insight might give me some answers

Stacked Chain Reactions will all cast and all do full damage.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Sub Zero
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland117 Posts
July 11 2013 12:10 GMT
#4794
And from what I see from your profile, you stacked too much aps. As I remember from my wizzy days the ww breakpoint was 2.74 on your character sheet while you are at 2.9.
With your wand you need to have only +66%ias, so you can afford to drop ~10%.

Choose one:
Replace your lacuni with some good crafted bracer
Inna for Blackthornes and then you can switch to some helmet with a socket (like AR int vit crit APOC OS) and then you can drop APOC on chantodo and go for some dps/ehp stats there
get a lot of CHD instead IAS on amu
Or go all in and get a mempo for 3.0 AS break point (this will be expensive)

After it you can drop the remaining 1-3% from rings/gloves in exchange for other slots and dont be afraid of dropping 12% MS, as CM you teleport most of the time anyway.
Hope nothing has changed recently and this is still valid, havent played CM for a while now
Jaedong <3 Boxer <3 MMA <3
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
July 11 2013 13:13 GMT
#4795
On July 11 2013 21:10 Sub Zero wrote:
And from what I see from your profile, you stacked too much aps. As I remember from my wizzy days the ww breakpoint was 2.74 on your character sheet while you are at 2.9.
With your wand you need to have only +66%ias, so you can afford to drop ~10%.

Choose one:
Replace your lacuni with some good crafted bracer
Inna for Blackthornes and then you can switch to some helmet with a socket (like AR int vit crit APOC OS) and then you can drop APOC on chantodo and go for some dps/ehp stats there
get a lot of CHD instead IAS on amu
Or go all in and get a mempo for 3.0 AS break point (this will be expensive)

After it you can drop the remaining 1-3% from rings/gloves in exchange for other slots and dont be afraid of dropping 12% MS, as CM you teleport most of the time anyway.
Hope nothing has changed recently and this is still valid, havent played CM for a while now

Yes, the 2.74 breakpoint is still there as far as I know.

I'd recommend the blackthornes out of the choices above. A looot of defense compared to innas (try to get high vit, armour and AR), allowing you to go SNS on higher MP. The LoH gives you more room to move with your jewelery (unless you want to keep the extra sustain), and will allow more average damage or CD.

Also I'd recommend storm crow (with as much cc as you can afford) until you can afford a mempo with cc.
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 12:56:06
July 15 2013 12:42 GMT
#4796
Is there any point in switching from Glass Cannon to Evocation?
(Edit: I mean +15% DPS is nice to kill stuff even faster when I have no real survivability issues except for Ubers).

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Enickma-2780/hero/3372093

This weekend I've spent about €15 to gain about 50k DPS (from 128k to 176k) that shoudn't just be sheet DPS.

I'm only playing on MP5 as I think it's a sweet spot between a 50% of gelting keys and decent speed to kill stuff. My thought is if I can't do MP10 okay-ish then I don't see much point in MP6/7/8/9. Maybe my thinking is wrong? Only other reason for me would be bragging rights.

Stuff goes down really fast when solo and I can even kill elites on my own in a 4-player game I discovered last night. Also I only really die due to "bad luck" on my part and my char feels 'invincible' on MP5 and I love that feeling!

But I can't take down any Ubers on my own yet I've seen top-notch streamers solo Ubers on MP10 and I feel like my char should be able to do so on their own when it's "just" on MP5 when everything else crumbles in front of my feet.. Maybe it's just my strategy for fighting Ubers that's wrong but I believe my char should be potent enough to handle things on his own?

I've thought about switching to Crystal Shell, Energy Armour and Cold Snap just for Uber fighting but I don't like to have to switch that much solely for that purpose. That's why I've been thinking if Evocation might do the trick so I can get my first Hellfire Ring or if it's a gear problem?
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
July 15 2013 22:48 GMT
#4797
On July 15 2013 21:42 3nickma wrote:
Is there any point in switching from Glass Cannon to Evocation?
(Edit: I mean +15% DPS is nice to kill stuff even faster when I have no real survivability issues except for Ubers).

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Enickma-2780/hero/3372093

This weekend I've spent about €15 to gain about 50k DPS (from 128k to 176k) that shoudn't just be sheet DPS.

I'm only playing on MP5 as I think it's a sweet spot between a 50% of gelting keys and decent speed to kill stuff. My thought is if I can't do MP10 okay-ish then I don't see much point in MP6/7/8/9. Maybe my thinking is wrong? Only other reason for me would be bragging rights.

Stuff goes down really fast when solo and I can even kill elites on my own in a 4-player game I discovered last night. Also I only really die due to "bad luck" on my part and my char feels 'invincible' on MP5 and I love that feeling!

But I can't take down any Ubers on my own yet I've seen top-notch streamers solo Ubers on MP10 and I feel like my char should be able to do so on their own when it's "just" on MP5 when everything else crumbles in front of my feet.. Maybe it's just my strategy for fighting Ubers that's wrong but I believe my char should be potent enough to handle things on his own?

I've thought about switching to Crystal Shell, Energy Armour and Cold Snap just for Uber fighting but I don't like to have to switch that much solely for that purpose. That's why I've been thinking if Evocation might do the trick so I can get my first Hellfire Ring or if it's a gear problem?

I definitely think evocation is the better choice. You get better survivability (more freeze), AND better dps (more shard and chain reaction). I guess the extra dps may not be the 15% of the glass cannon, but as you will be able to stay in the fight longer (mainly for not having all the -defense), and I think you will effectively deal more dps. Specially as you will die less and don't have to spend time running around, or worse, bring your team down against ubers.

Also try out the safe passage rune on teleport. I really like it! It's great when you teleport in for the first trigger, and when you teleport around to avoid molten/arcane sentries etc. Or, if you are in the middle of a lot of pools, just throwing down a teleport every 4 seconds makes you take 30% less damage (so effectively giving you 30% more life, AND 30% more ls!). The extra few teleports you get from wormhole is only needed in moving between groups (in a fight it'll refresh instantly anyway), which imo is not as useful as the 30% reduced damage.

For gear, i'll essentially recommend you to get what I have, as that is what I judged to be the best choice. I can play MP10, but if I go SNS (even without glass cannon), I am not invincible. For MP10 ubers I usually switch to prismatic armour, but a bit depending on the group I play with. With prismatic I feel pretty invincible, even at MP10 ubers.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SlkCascade-2516/hero/22556342
- you don't need 3 pieces of arcane power on crit unless you run meteor. So get rid of the apoc on the source, and get more dps or vitality. Or switch teleport to meteor, you already have the -energy on the source.
- The pants really give you no defense at all. Zero. Get the ias on your left ring instead (you may have to drop the cd and/or the AR depending on what you find...), and get blackthornes instead. This will give you a loooot of extra life (specially if you opt for the extra vit as I did, but in your case I'd recommend armour instead, as you already have plenty of life), and more importantly more AR, armour and loh, which are the three things that allow you to sustain better at higher MPs. That pant switch by itself will allow you to go up a few MPs and still be as invincible. Also the magic find is nice at low paragon levels.
- With the extra life you get from the pants (and from source if you so chose), will allow you to switch out vit to AR and armour on other pieces (like body and shoulders, and jewelery). Switch where you find you can get the best upgrades by dropping the vit.
- Getting lacunis with cc would be great. You can easily drop the vit with blackthornes, and you may have to go down in AR, or drop it entirely, which will hurt a bit. Depending on your budget. But remember that dps in the form of cc not only increases the effective dps far more than the sheet dps (more triggers, so more chain reactions and shards), but also gives you more sustain through more freeze.

glgl
Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
August 12 2013 21:29 GMT
#4798
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Binky-1146/hero/5365605

i haven't played in about 10 months, and i'm wanting to get back into d3. any suggestions on what to upgrade first?

i'm thinking boots and pants because they're just boring to look at. but i'm open to suggestions!
i have just under 9mil to work with
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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
August 13 2013 08:37 GMT
#4799
On August 13 2013 06:29 Binky1842 wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Binky-1146/hero/5365605

i haven't played in about 10 months, and i'm wanting to get back into d3. any suggestions on what to upgrade first?

i'm thinking boots and pants because they're just boring to look at. but i'm open to suggestions!
i have just under 9mil to work with

Unfortunately I actually think that your pants and boots will cost you the most to upgrade of your gear. To really upgrade them you have to either keep to the rare route and just get more vit, which would cost a decent amount, or completely change gear setup and get like an inna's temperance/lacuni prowlers/ice climbers combo for lots of dmg and movement speed, but then you have to replace the lost life since you cannot afford to lose any.

That is something you'll have to really look at yourself and judge what to do, but I can give some ideas for the other slots:

Your shoulders are probably the weakest point of your gear, and for 1mil you can get a vile ward with 180 int, 90 vit, 75 resist, armor, and life regen. A big investment for not much dmg increase, but the amount of defense gained would be a ton.

The amulet you have is really easily upgraded, and you can probably just add crit dmg to the stats you have for 300k ish gold. If that doesn't give you too many search results you could try lowering the int down from the 200+ range and try to find one with just high amounts of crit dmg and crit chance with about 130 int.

If you get a witching hour for your belt you would lose the 21 resist and some vit, but it is a belt with attack speed and crit dmg, and in most cases the highest dps belt you can get. The lowest of these would also be about 1mil, but would be a large amount of dmg increase. Just try to pick one off that has a higher amount of crit dmg, or has armor or something useful on it that someone priced to sell quickly.

If you do lose the life off the belt, you'll really need to make it up somewhere because you don't have too much. If you can add some on the amulet great, but there are 2 main places you can really get that health up, and the easiest way to increase that might be to get a new tal rasha's chest with about 140/140 int and vit. The armor that you have currently is nice, but with health that low I think just having a higher health pool would be more survivability.

The other place is in the helm. If you get a Mempo of Twilight with 170-190 int, and throw in a little bit of vit, you have yourself a great upgrade because mempo's all have 70+ resist, 10-12% bonus life, and a socket, which since you don't currently have one in your helm could be 12+% life, or 20+% experience gained. This would also be less than 1mil to upgrade.

It is sometimes hard to judge weapons and offhands and how much an upgrade would actually benefit because of the average dmg, but check out some triumvirates, they can add some crazy dmg sometimes.

As for the weapon itself, I'm unfamiliar with the proc on sky splitter so I may be off base here, but in terms of dps if you get a wand with about 1100 dps, and a socket and maybe add in some int or crit dmg if you can find one, it would be a huge dmg upgrade and easily cost under 1mil. That is probably what you should upgrade first since most of the dmg stats on your other gear completely depends on the weapon, especially since at current you have no crit dmg. Just throw the highest crit dmg gem in there that you can and watch the dmg soar.

Hopefully all this makes sense, it's pretty late right now so just let me know if you have any more questions or if anything was unclear.
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Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
August 14 2013 01:55 GMT
#4800
On August 13 2013 17:37 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 06:29 Binky1842 wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Binky-1146/hero/5365605

i haven't played in about 10 months, and i'm wanting to get back into d3. any suggestions on what to upgrade first?

i'm thinking boots and pants because they're just boring to look at. but i'm open to suggestions!
i have just under 9mil to work with

Unfortunately I actually think that your pants and boots will cost you the most to upgrade of your gear. To really upgrade them you have to either keep to the rare route and just get more vit, which would cost a decent amount, or completely change gear setup and get like an inna's temperance/lacuni prowlers/ice climbers combo for lots of dmg and movement speed, but then you have to replace the lost life since you cannot afford to lose any.

That is something you'll have to really look at yourself and judge what to do, but I can give some ideas for the other slots:

Your shoulders are probably the weakest point of your gear, and for 1mil you can get a vile ward with 180 int, 90 vit, 75 resist, armor, and life regen. A big investment for not much dmg increase, but the amount of defense gained would be a ton.

The amulet you have is really easily upgraded, and you can probably just add crit dmg to the stats you have for 300k ish gold. If that doesn't give you too many search results you could try lowering the int down from the 200+ range and try to find one with just high amounts of crit dmg and crit chance with about 130 int.

If you get a witching hour for your belt you would lose the 21 resist and some vit, but it is a belt with attack speed and crit dmg, and in most cases the highest dps belt you can get. The lowest of these would also be about 1mil, but would be a large amount of dmg increase. Just try to pick one off that has a higher amount of crit dmg, or has armor or something useful on it that someone priced to sell quickly.

If you do lose the life off the belt, you'll really need to make it up somewhere because you don't have too much. If you can add some on the amulet great, but there are 2 main places you can really get that health up, and the easiest way to increase that might be to get a new tal rasha's chest with about 140/140 int and vit. The armor that you have currently is nice, but with health that low I think just having a higher health pool would be more survivability.

The other place is in the helm. If you get a Mempo of Twilight with 170-190 int, and throw in a little bit of vit, you have yourself a great upgrade because mempo's all have 70+ resist, 10-12% bonus life, and a socket, which since you don't currently have one in your helm could be 12+% life, or 20+% experience gained. This would also be less than 1mil to upgrade.

It is sometimes hard to judge weapons and offhands and how much an upgrade would actually benefit because of the average dmg, but check out some triumvirates, they can add some crazy dmg sometimes.

As for the weapon itself, I'm unfamiliar with the proc on sky splitter so I may be off base here, but in terms of dps if you get a wand with about 1100 dps, and a socket and maybe add in some int or crit dmg if you can find one, it would be a huge dmg upgrade and easily cost under 1mil. That is probably what you should upgrade first since most of the dmg stats on your other gear completely depends on the weapon, especially since at current you have no crit dmg. Just throw the highest crit dmg gem in there that you can and watch the dmg soar.

Hopefully all this makes sense, it's pretty late right now so just let me know if you have any more questions or if anything was unclear.

ahh! thanks a lot, val. this'll get me back on the right track. i remember looking at witching hour, vile ward, and triumv before i quit playing, i'll def look into them tonight. ty so much! :3
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