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kes
Profile Joined November 2011
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 18:04:14
December 04 2012 17:48 GMT
#4261
On December 04 2012 20:57 3nickma wrote:
...

I would suggest to party up for ubers. when you always freeze at least one of them, your party will have much more easy time to survive, so they can go more glass cannon than they could afford with both badasses running around (however you will most likely outdps every single one of them, so best to do it with another cm/ww wizards ). if you do it right, you permafreeze both ghom and rakanoth, so only two gas clouds during encounter. when doing kulle and SB, aim to lock the bigger of them. i dont have problem with kulle running around but idea of angry drugged up SB charging and often oneshoting three of partymembers is scary (and with perma diamond skin, you dont have to worry about his reflect). just switch slow time to teleport, as when you get yourself into kulles bubble without teleport, you will most likely end up dead. that can be applied to third ones too. dodging arcane sentries and those !@#$ butterflies is imho necessary, only thing you have to pay attention to is skeleton kings walk. jesus christ, that is like the worst thing in all game, when i "fall asleep" and dont teleport away in time, i end up dead (you cant freeze him once he decides to do that walk)
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 18:22:17
December 04 2012 18:21 GMT
#4262
I didnt play D3 for a long time and decided to give it a shot again.
so i sold my old items (that were terrible now obviously...) and got about 8 million gold for it.

I wanna start a Wizard and have a few questions:

What are the most common builds?

Especially for low-mid level gear, trying to beat the game first of all in mp0 (this didnt exist back then even^^)

What items should i focus on with ur suggested build?
crit% and crit dmg?
int?

Any "cheap" legendarys that are very good for my low budget?


Help would be very much appreciated!
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
cdpham
Profile Joined April 2011
United States41 Posts
December 04 2012 19:18 GMT
#4263
On December 05 2012 03:21 KalWarkov wrote:
I didnt play D3 for a long time and decided to give it a shot again.
so i sold my old items (that were terrible now obviously...) and got about 8 million gold for it.

I wanna start a Wizard and have a few questions:

What are the most common builds?

Especially for low-mid level gear, trying to beat the game first of all in mp0 (this didnt exist back then even^^)

What items should i focus on with ur suggested build?
crit% and crit dmg?
int?

Any "cheap" legendarys that are very good for my low budget?


Help would be very much appreciated!


Cdxliv, a popular streamer just created this guide for Wizards which is made for people with lower budgets: http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/149sfc/educational_monday_budget_wiz_20_results_and_vods/
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 04 2012 19:53 GMT
#4264
On December 05 2012 04:18 cdpham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 03:21 KalWarkov wrote:
I didnt play D3 for a long time and decided to give it a shot again.
so i sold my old items (that were terrible now obviously...) and got about 8 million gold for it.

I wanna start a Wizard and have a few questions:

What are the most common builds?

Especially for low-mid level gear, trying to beat the game first of all in mp0 (this didnt exist back then even^^)

What items should i focus on with ur suggested build?
crit% and crit dmg?
int?

Any "cheap" legendarys that are very good for my low budget?


Help would be very much appreciated!


Cdxliv, a popular streamer just created this guide for Wizards which is made for people with lower budgets: http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/149sfc/educational_monday_budget_wiz_20_results_and_vods/


thanks, thats pretty cool.

is there any build that uses venom hydra and not archon or energy twister?^^
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 04 2012 20:04 GMT
#4265
Keep in mind that there is a pretty significant price difference between EU and US AH.

I'll be using the guide cdpham posted too btw.
We make signature, then defense it.
jESUIT
Profile Joined October 2012
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 21:27:30
December 04 2012 21:27 GMT
#4266
On December 05 2012 04:53 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 04:18 cdpham wrote:
On December 05 2012 03:21 KalWarkov wrote:
I didnt play D3 for a long time and decided to give it a shot again.
so i sold my old items (that were terrible now obviously...) and got about 8 million gold for it.

I wanna start a Wizard and have a few questions:

What are the most common builds?

Especially for low-mid level gear, trying to beat the game first of all in mp0 (this didnt exist back then even^^)

What items should i focus on with ur suggested build?
crit% and crit dmg?
int?

Any "cheap" legendarys that are very good for my low budget?


Help would be very much appreciated!


Cdxliv, a popular streamer just created this guide for Wizards which is made for people with lower budgets: http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/149sfc/educational_monday_budget_wiz_20_results_and_vods/


thanks, thats pretty cool.

is there any build that uses venom hydra and not archon or energy twister?^^


Venom hydra no, but their is a Orb/Arcane Hydra build.
200k dps CM/WW Wiz https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323 // GM Protoss
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
December 04 2012 21:36 GMT
#4267
How much "actual" CM/WW DPS will I lose if I switch a 256 Int Storm Crow with one that has 5% CC instead!?

Can't decide whether or not it's an upgrade or a downgrade. I really need the DPS but if it's just paper then I guess the CC is more useful.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Enickma-2780/hero/3372093
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
jESUIT
Profile Joined October 2012
United States151 Posts
December 04 2012 21:48 GMT
#4268
On December 05 2012 06:36 3nickma wrote:
How much "actual" CM/WW DPS will I lose if I switch a 256 Int Storm Crow with one that has 5% CC instead!?

Can't decide whether or not it's an upgrade or a downgrade. I really need the DPS but if it's just paper then I guess the CC is more useful.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Enickma-2780/hero/3372093


Would be an upgrade ofc by far. More procs = more dmg over time. More proc = more apoc = more tornadoes :D
200k dps CM/WW Wiz https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323 // GM Protoss
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
December 04 2012 22:48 GMT
#4269
I think how much it helps your dps actually depends on how good your AP sustain is. If you're already at the point where against a single target you are never low on AP, then I don't think boosting your crit chance actually does that much, since it doesn't gain you any twisters (it will gain you a few more explosive blasts/diamond skins).

However, that requires a pretty high gear level already, so in almost all cases the crit chance is worth it even if you lose paper character sheet dps.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 05 2012 09:07 GMT
#4270
On December 05 2012 06:27 jESUIT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 04:53 KalWarkov wrote:
On December 05 2012 04:18 cdpham wrote:
On December 05 2012 03:21 KalWarkov wrote:
I didnt play D3 for a long time and decided to give it a shot again.
so i sold my old items (that were terrible now obviously...) and got about 8 million gold for it.

I wanna start a Wizard and have a few questions:

What are the most common builds?

Especially for low-mid level gear, trying to beat the game first of all in mp0 (this didnt exist back then even^^)

What items should i focus on with ur suggested build?
crit% and crit dmg?
int?

Any "cheap" legendarys that are very good for my low budget?


Help would be very much appreciated!


Cdxliv, a popular streamer just created this guide for Wizards which is made for people with lower budgets: http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/149sfc/educational_monday_budget_wiz_20_results_and_vods/


thanks, thats pretty cool.

is there any build that uses venom hydra and not archon or energy twister?^^


Venom hydra no, but their is a Orb/Arcane Hydra build.


hm k thanks, i always thought venom hydra did a shitton more dmg^^
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
kes
Profile Joined November 2011
47 Posts
December 05 2012 12:36 GMT
#4271
venom hydra used to be superior to other runes, but after skills were buffed it equalized and now arcane deals more direct dmg. venom is better only against really high hp monsters.
ximae
Profile Joined January 2011
181 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 13:26:52
December 05 2012 13:07 GMT
#4272
On December 05 2012 07:48 alQahira wrote:
I think how much it helps your dps actually depends on how good your AP sustain is. If you're already at the point where against a single target you are never low on AP, then I don't think boosting your crit chance actually does that much, since it doesn't gain you any twisters (it will gain you a few more explosive blasts/diamond skins).

However, that requires a pretty high gear level already, so in almost all cases the crit chance is worth it even if you lose paper character sheet dps.


also dont forget more cc = more shocking aspect procs = big damage boost.

here is the math for your apoc gains: 2.31 = 30 ticks 30/6(ww duration) = 5 ticks/s

proc rate * cc * apoc * ticks sec = av apoc gain per target and twister

0.125 * 0.475 * 20 * 5 = 5.94

the consensus in battlenet forums is that around 7.5 is about enough but more is even better for more wormholing and faster spinup. but this math doesnt account for shards or eb procs and they like to high ball a bit. with my experience id say some less is required, when i was at 7 it was already sweet.... now im at 8.5 and it is much better though.

so yeah that cc for you is a must have.
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
December 06 2012 05:09 GMT
#4273
COOL

From my calculations even with 300k dps archon mode, I get more experience per hour on MP0
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
ximae
Profile Joined January 2011
181 Posts
December 06 2012 10:40 GMT
#4274
kiwi, how can that be? at 200k dps everything just melts at the touch of the beam at mp2, only exception is elites which take like 5 sec to kill. so at those dps levels more dps isnt gaining you more time its just the travell time really. wouldnt a bonus to xp be more beneficial?
klaxen
Profile Joined April 2010
United States361 Posts
December 06 2012 12:50 GMT
#4275
On December 06 2012 14:09 KiWiKaKi wrote:
COOL

From my calculations even with 300k dps archon mode, I get more experience per hour on MP0


Out of curiosity what xp per hour do you get?

high master protoss - low master zerg
Silahsor
Profile Joined January 2011
Turkey59 Posts
December 06 2012 14:31 GMT
#4276
On December 06 2012 19:40 ximae wrote:
kiwi, how can that be? at 200k dps everything just melts at the touch of the beam at mp2, only exception is elites which take like 5 sec to kill. so at those dps levels more dps isnt gaining you more time its just the travell time really. wouldnt a bonus to xp be more beneficial?


I am afraid NO, this is not the case. Even at 300K DPS, MP 0-1 provides more XP/hr than anything else.
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
December 06 2012 16:20 GMT
#4277
on MP2 I get bout tree fiddy

MP1 I get bout 65-70m per hour

MP0 I get always more than 70
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 06 2012 18:29 GMT
#4278
On December 07 2012 01:20 KiWiKaKi wrote:
on MP2 I get bout tree fiddy

MP1 I get bout 65-70m per hour

MP0 I get always more than 70

what have you determined is the most efficient route? i use a modified alkaizer route, but think i have modified it too much as there are some lulls.
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
December 06 2012 19:06 GMT
#4279
I do like alkaizer but I have added skycrown battlement and rakkis crossing
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
December 06 2012 19:06 GMT
#4280
And also btw I think i just found a build that give more experience per hour than archon, but it require pretty good gears
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
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